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babypi...@googlemail.com

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Nov 8, 2009, 8:25:06 AM11/8/09
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Hi all

Long time no post but I need to ask a question. Can an Audi Quatro
(4x4) estate 1.9 TDI tow a trailer with 2 horses?

Thanks

Ian - Louise

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Nov 8, 2009, 2:25:14 PM11/8/09
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<babypi...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> Hi all
>
> Long time no post but I need to ask a question. Can an Audi Quatro
> (4x4) estate 1.9 TDI tow a trailer with 2 horses?

My initial thoughts are no, sorry, probably not what you want to hear!!
Can't remember what weights you need to check, think it's the kerbside
weight of the vehicle against the weight you will be towing and a ratio of
85% (you'd need to google it) and a trailer with two horses will be quite
heavy. I also don't think a 1.9 engine will be powerful enough for two
horses, but I'm no expert so you'd need to check it out properly.

Years ago someone on here posted what vehicles could tow what, maybe you
could do a google search to see if it comes up.

Louise


Volker Borchert

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Nov 8, 2009, 2:58:37 PM11/8/09
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babypi...@googlemail.com wrote:
> Long time no post but I need to ask a question. Can an Audi Quatro
> (4x4) estate 1.9 TDI tow a trailer with 2 horses?

What about reading the manual?

--

"I'm a doctor, not a mechanic." Dr Leonard McCoy <mc...@ncc1701.starfleet.fed>
"I'm a mechanic, not a doctor." Volker Borchert <v_bor...@despammed.com>

newshound

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Nov 8, 2009, 3:01:58 PM11/8/09
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"Ian - Louise" <mayh...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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I tend to agree.

Probably need to identify the vehicle more positively. The handbook will
have a "towing capacity" and this may be on a plate under the bonnet. I'd
agree that 1.9 TDI doesn't sound a lot but could well be as powerful as my
2.8 TD fourtrak. There are two "definitions" of towing capacity; the
Fourtrak, like "proper" Landies is rated to 3.5 tonnes. ISTR that means it
can hill start on a 1 in 4 or 1 in 5?

The other criterion sometimes quoted by caravanners is that the trailer
shouldn't exceed 85% of the car weight; beyond that you are more prone to
snaking instabilities. But, Landies and Fourtraks weigh about 2.3 tonnes.
I've regularly towed that sort of weight with a Fourtrak without much
difficulty (but slowly!). I used to have the Richardson equivalent of the IW
510 which weighed about 1150 kg, and I have two big cobs, probably 550 and
600 kg. I suspect that four wheel trailers (like horse trailers) are more
stable than 2-wheeled caravans.

So how heavy is the trailer, and what size the horses? You might just about
get away with a light trailer and two smallish (<500 kg) horses if the car
weighs over 2 tons. Certainly some people tow with the old Volvo 240 estate,
not that I'd fancy it.

Just don't make the mistake that I've seen a couple of times in expecting to
use one of the "small" 4x4s to tow more than one small pony.

Here's Simon's excellent link on "How To"; the Linus link which has/had some
data doesn't seem to be working for me today.

http://www.mareandfoal.org/html/modules.php?op=modload&name=News&file=article&sid=23
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>

babypi...@googlemail.com

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Nov 8, 2009, 3:40:43 PM11/8/09
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On 8 Nov, 19:58, v_borch...@despammed.com (Volker Borchert) wrote:
> "I'm a mechanic, not a doctor." Volker Borchert  <v_borch...@despammed.com>

If I had the manual I would read it but I dont not picked the car up
yet

Anyhow, I have bought the car but realised it had a tow bar on it and
wonderd if I could tow with it. i would only buy an ifor horse is
15.2hh and lightweight cob type i guess

Blott

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Nov 9, 2009, 3:59:58 AM11/9/09
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You might just be OK, assuming it is an A4 128bhp model. The braked towing
weight is 1900kg. Check out the exact car model on this web page
http://www.gocaravanning.com/towcars/cars.php?pageNum_towcar=4&totalRows_towcar=1776&Make=audi

Danny

p.s. Sorry I missed your FB chat last night, had gone to bed.


tin...@isbd.co.uk

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Nov 9, 2009, 9:14:05 AM11/9/09
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Ian - Louise <mayh...@btinternet.com> wrote:
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> <babypi...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> news:b695e870-bd0d-4e4e...@15g2000yqy.googlegroups.com...
> > Hi all
> >
> > Long time no post but I need to ask a question. Can an Audi Quatro
> > (4x4) estate 1.9 TDI tow a trailer with 2 horses?
>
> My initial thoughts are no, sorry, probably not what you want to hear!!
> Can't remember what weights you need to check, think it's the kerbside
> weight of the vehicle against the weight you will be towing and a ratio of
> 85% (you'd need to google it) and a trailer with two horses will be quite
> heavy. I also don't think a 1.9 engine will be powerful enough for two
> horses, but I'm no expert so you'd need to check it out properly.
>
That 85% figure is just a "rule of thumb" used by caravan towers. The
real figure you need to find is the towing weight figure given by the car
manufacturer (i.e. Audi) in the car handbook.

Some vehicles (e.g. utility 4WD pickups and similar) are quite capable
of towing much more than their own weight and you will find that
reflected in the maximum towing weight given in the handbook/specifications.

The figure you want is either the 'maximum towing weight' or, maybe,
the maximum train weight which is the sum of the weight of the towing
vehicle and the trailer.

Remember your driving licence must cover towing, depending on how
recently you passed your test you may not be licenced to tow. Then
there may be a limit of 3500kg maximum train weight on your licence
which will apply regardless of the towing vehicle's capabilities.

--
Chris Green

babypi...@googlemail.com

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Nov 9, 2009, 10:53:48 AM11/9/09
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On 9 Nov, 08:59, "Blott" <bl...@home.con> wrote:
> <babypink2...@googlemail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:b695e870-bd0d-4e4e...@15g2000yqy.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Hi all
>
> > Long time no post but I need to ask a question.  Can an Audi Quatro
> > (4x4) estate 1.9 TDI tow a trailer with 2 horses?
>
> > Thanks
>
> You might just be OK, assuming it is an A4 128bhp model.  The braked towing
> weight is 1900kg.  Check out the exact car model on this web pagehttp://www.gocaravanning.com/towcars/cars.php?pageNum_towcar=4&totalR...

>
> Danny
>
> p.s. Sorry I missed your FB chat last night, had gone to bed.

Hi

It is the Audi A4 Quatro 1.9 TDI

babypi...@googlemail.com

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Nov 9, 2009, 10:57:06 AM11/9/09
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On 9 Nov, 08:59, "Blott" <bl...@home.con> wrote:
> <babypink2...@googlemail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:b695e870-bd0d-4e4e...@15g2000yqy.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Hi all
>
> > Long time no post but I need to ask a question.  Can an Audi Quatro
> > (4x4) estate 1.9 TDI tow a trailer with 2 horses?
>
> > Thanks
>
> You might just be OK, assuming it is an A4 128bhp model.  The braked towing
> weight is 1900kg.  Check out the exact car model on this web pagehttp://www.gocaravanning.com/towcars/cars.php?pageNum_towcar=4&totalR...

>
> Danny
>
> p.s. Sorry I missed your FB chat last night, had gone to bed.

Hi

Seems to be this

Weights & Towing Information:
Kerbweight 1645 kgs
Braked Tow Weight 1900 kgs Discounted Servicing & MOTs for Audi's
Get Car Insurance for Audi's
Search for Local Car Dealers
Roof Bars

85% of kerbweight: 1398.25 kgs
95% of Kerbweight: 1562.75 kgs


So looks ok just about, to be fair its only really going to me my and
my horse. worst case scanrio is I take another but highly unlikely

Ta

babypi...@googlemail.com

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Nov 9, 2009, 10:57:46 AM11/9/09
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On 9 Nov, 14:14, tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote:
> Ian - Louise <mayhe...@btinternet.com> wrote:
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> > <babypink2...@googlemail.com> wrote in message

Passed my test in 1989 sadly....!

tin...@isbd.co.uk

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Nov 9, 2009, 1:55:41 PM11/9/09
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babypi...@googlemail.com <babypi...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Remember your driving licence must cover towing, depending on how
> > recently you passed your test you may not be licenced to tow.  Then
> > there may be a limit of 3500kg maximum train weight on your licence
> > which will apply regardless of the towing vehicle's capabilities.
> >
> > --
> > Chris Green
>
> Passed my test in 1989 sadly....!

What's sad about that?! :-)

Yes, 1997 is the magic year when it goes down to 3500kg and trailers
are excluded.

--
Chris Green

lynz

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:50:03 AM11/10/09
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tin...@isbd.co.uk wrote:
> Ian - Louise <mayh...@btinternet.com> wrote:
>> <babypi...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>> news:b695e870-bd0d-4e4e...@15g2000yqy.googlegroups.com...
>>> Hi all
>>>
>>> Long time no post but I need to ask a question. Can an Audi Quatro
>>> (4x4) estate 1.9 TDI tow a trailer with 2 horses?
>
Do you have to worry about the tow bar itself as well? I know the tow
bar on my ute is only certified to tow 1200kg hence I gave up towing the
float with it and bought a truck. The float was getting rather old and
in need of major repairs also.
Ps How is your horse? Do you still have Pointer? I had my first outing
of the season on Sunday and managed to fall off. Its over twenty years
since I last fell off so was a bit out of practice. Horse did a buck
when landing after a jump and I went flying. Didnt break anything but
landed rather heavily on my butt.
L

babypi...@googlemail.com

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Nov 12, 2009, 1:04:59 PM11/12/09
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On 10 Nov, 07:50, lynz <l...@exxtra.co.invalid> wrote:
> tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote:
> > Ian - Louise <mayhe...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >> <babypink2...@googlemail.com> wrote in message

He is doing weel, we did our first 15k pleasure ride 2 weeks ago
although it was a good day we did get a complaint about us which I was
not too happy about but hey we live and learn. Some people just take
things way too seriously

babypi...@googlemail.com

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Nov 12, 2009, 1:06:51 PM11/12/09
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On 10 Nov, 07:50, lynz <l...@exxtra.co.invalid> wrote:
> tinn...@isbd.co.uk wrote:
> > Ian - Louise <mayhe...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> >> <babypink2...@googlemail.com> wrote in message

Ohh the towing thing is new to me, not towed for a few years, driven
boxes not a problem, my last car was a Disco so not a problem with the
towing thing. I may goo to a dealership and ask them to look at the
tow bar and then recommend a trailer for me and then see what I can
find out there

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