Far too much snow in Warrington
Elder
One gritter at 9pm last night.
Main A roads are sheet ice. 1 hour to do 3 miles.
Coming home, got stuck in car park and pushed out, then got stuck at top
of hill after lights changed. Sledgers gave me a nudge and got me
moving.
Got back into Warrington and still no effort to grit. Like driving down
a frozen farm track (and that is a motorway link A road). Got onto the
smaller A and town B roads almost impassible. How much is my council tax
again?
Now been snowing heavy for about 2 hours, no sign of stopping for
another couple. Guess I get a lie in tomorrow.
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Adrian
like they were saying:
> How much is my council tax again?
How much would you like it to be, to provide absolute coverage for all
eventualities?
Still, you don't need winter tyres in the UK, I'm told. No point
whatsoever. The Police said so.
Elder
says...
Sometimes, even setting off in 3rd with just enough revs to not stall
lead to wheel spin on the flat. I may be calling it in tomorrow.
Normally it is the Oldham/Macc/Peaks guys call in, but they called me a
looney at work for even attempting it and I'm a flat lander.
Ret.
As it happens, I have just arrived home (4.15 pm) from driving into
Warrington and back to return our grand-daughter who had been stopping with
us. The roads from Stretton roundabout on the M56 down into Stockton Heath
and on into Warrington were indeed very bad. Quite deep snow which was
continuing to fall heavily (biggest snowflakes I've ever seen). Having said
that, I had no problems at all. When we reached the end of Wilderspool
Causeway, at the first big roundabout, there was a truck in front of me and
a woman in a new Vx Insignia actually at the lights. Three times, when the
lights changed to green, the woman just spun the front wheels and stood
still with the front of her car jigging from side to side. Eventually the
truck driver got out and spoke to her, probably giving her some driving
advice. On the fourth light change she did the same thing and so I just
drove around the truck and her and went on my way - yes, even with my
supposed Teflon tyres and the fact that the Insignia would have had
expensive branded tyres on. So yes - it often is a matter of driving
technique and not what tyres you are using.
I got to my daughters and back home again, despite the horrendous
conditions, and despite my mid-price summer tyres, without any difficulty.
Kev
Conor
says...
> Got back into Warrington and still no effort to grit.
Not much point. Does sod all at -6 and it can make things worse as the
melted snow turns to sheet ice.
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Adrian
like they were saying:
>> > How much is my council tax again?
>> How much would you like it to be, to provide absolute coverage for all
>> eventualities?
>>
>> Still, you don't need winter tyres in the UK, I'm told. No point
>> whatsoever. The Police said so.
> I got by, just. Any worse and I would have needed them.
Sounds more like you really did need 'em, but were lucky enough that you
could _just_ scrape by without.
Elder
says...
On about 30% worn summer tyres. A test of skill rather than tyre
capability.
Bod
lot in snow and ice.
Bod
Elder
co...@gmx.co.uk says...
> In article <MPG.25ad6b2aa...@news.individual.net>, Elder
> says...
>
> > Got back into Warrington and still no effort to grit.
>
> Not much point. Does sod all at -6 and it can make things worse as the
> melted snow turns to sheet ice.
>
>
Warrington.
I know -6 does bugger all, but it isn't anywhere near. You could tell
from the ice clarity this morning that there was no grit anywhere near.
Looking at the roads, I can see me taking advantage of a snow day as
people thought I was mad to get in today anyway as it is going to be
just as slippy here in the morning and worse at work.
FrengaX
> Elder <carl.rob...@bouncing-czechs.com> gurgled happily, sounding much
Depends. I've seen the small hatchbacks with their relatively skinny
tyres get around OK. My RWD car with wide, low-profile tyres is
useless, and snow tyres might help more in that case (would need to
unbury the car from its snow-drift, first).
Albert T Cone
> Three times, when the lights changed to green, the woman just
> spun the front wheels and stood still with the front of her car jigging
> from side to side. Eventually the truck driver got out and spoke to her,
> probably giving her some driving advice. On the fourth light change she
> did the same thing and so I just drove around the truck and her and went
> on my way - yes, even with my supposed Teflon tyres and the fact that
> the Insignia would have had expensive branded tyres on. So yes - it
> often is a matter of driving technique and not what tyres you are using.
I would read that in exactly the opposite light. I had some new Toyo
CF1s (summer tyres) on my passat. My gf has some Avon summer tyres on
her pug 306. The difference in traction in the snow and on ice was very
significant - I could happily accelerate fairly vigourously in her car
up the same hill which the passat simply ground to a halt on. Since I
was driving, and using the same techniques in both cars, the difference
is almost entirely down to the tyres. I suspect that the same is true
of the case you cite; the unfortunate lady in the Insignia had a brand
of summer tyres which, like my Toyos, perform very poorly in the snow
and that you have been lucky to have chosen some tyres which happen to
have a tread pattern which isn't too bad.
I have since put two winter tyres on the driven wheels of the passat,
and the problem is solved.