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 More options Jan 12 2010, 9:36 am
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From: Squashme <squas...@gmail.com>
Date: Tue, 12 Jan 2010 06:36:04 -0800 (PST)
Local: Tues, Jan 12 2010 9:36 am
Subject: Re: Do You Ever Not Use Cycle Paths Just to Obstruct Motorists?
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On 12 Jan, 12:12, "Mas...@BP.com" <Mas...@BP.com> wrote:

> On 12 Jan, 11:54, N...@sarlet.com (Roger Merriman) wrote:

> > Mas...@BP.com <Mas...@BP.com> wrote:
> > > On 11 Jan, 23:44, Guy Cuthbertson <gu...@nothing.invalid> wrote:
> > > > We all know it goes on, but is anyone going to be man enough to own up
> > > > to it?  Does anyone here ever avoid using a perfectly good and
> > > > accessible cycle path when cycling, partly or wholly because they want
> > > > to reduce the width of the road for motorists (perhaps because they
> > > > dislike cars and want to make the driving experience less pleasant)?

> > > > You've done that at least once, haven't you carburner?

> > > The current Dept for Transport guidelines state:

> > >  "Ride at a sensible speed for the situation and ensure you can stop
> > > in time. As a general rule, if you want to cycle quickly, say in
> > > excess of 18 mph/30 kph, then you should be riding on the road."

> > > Since I ride at speeds of over 18 mph, I tend to follow their advice.

> > > --
> > > Simon Mason

> > yup thats normally my reason, the other being that at the moment they
> > are covered in ice, when the road is clear.

> Luckily, some law firms are using the Dept for Transport's advice as
> outlined here:

> http://www.newlawjournal.co.uk/nlj/content/culture-clash

> "Nonetheless, Morgan J convicted Cadden on the basis that it was
> inconsiderate to ride on the road at all, rather than on a separate
> cycle path. The Department of Transport advises: “As a general rule,
> if you want to cycle quickly, say in excess of 18mph/30kph, then you
> should be riding on the road.”

> The conviction was overturned on appeal, but there remains a striking
> contrast between the police, prosecution and judicial time and effort
> directed towards the harmless Mr Cadden and that directed towards
> motorists who have run down cyclists."

Thanks for the article. Good description of car culture:-

The convenience of the car over the last century has led to the
development of a culture which largely exempts motoring from the
strict regulation of other areas of life in which poor practice costs
lives.

The main tenets of this car culture can be summarised as follows:
(i) The attrition is a price worth paying in return for individual
autonomy and convenience.
(ii) Every physically competent adult has a right to drive, removable
only as a punishment for serious or repeated criminal offending and,
even then, only temporarily.
(iii) Conduct regarded as dangerous in other walks of life is, in a
motorist, merely careless, and that which would otherwise be careless
is excusable.
(iv) Road safety efforts focus upon segregating the vulnerable road
user from motorised traffic (at the expense of the safe sharing of
road space) and upon encouraging personal protection as second line
prevention.
(v) The harmful potential of a fast motor vehicle is not distinguished
from that of a bicycle, notwithstanding the laws of physics.


 
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