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Mrcheerful

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Nov 8, 2012, 5:19:32 PM11/8/12
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"....... he would end up coming over my car bonnet."

the rider boasted it was not the first time he had done it.

Are there no depths that cyclists will not drop to?


http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/10036422.Driver_fears_ticket_after_cyclist_triggers_speed_camera/


JNugent

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Nov 8, 2012, 6:59:07 PM11/8/12
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If the spin put on speed cameras is correct, he needn't worry.

The calibration marks on the road surface indicate how far a vehicle has
travelled between the (two) camera flashes and exposures. So the driver, if
he was doing 28mph, will not be identified as exceeding the 30mph limit.

But that only applies if you can legitimately accept that jobsworths in
"safety camera partnership" offices always do their job properly and never
make a mistake.

I'd hate to be trying to defend a case before the Mags where the relevant
jobsworth has actually been sloppy but insists that they have been punctilious.

thirty-six

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Nov 8, 2012, 9:22:19 PM11/8/12
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On Nov 8, 10:23 pm, "Mrcheerful" <g.odonnel...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
> "....... he would end up coming over my car bonnet."
>
>  the rider boasted it was not the first time he had done it.
>
> Are there no depths that cyclists will not drop to?
>
> http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/10036422.Driver_fears_ticket_af...

and I bet you wouldn't wipe it off.

Bertie Wooster

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Nov 9, 2012, 2:22:23 AM11/9/12
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What great idea! I might give it a go this evening. There's a nice
downhill section of the South Circular Road between Shooters' Hill and
the Woolwich Ferry with a Gatso. I reckon I could manage 40 along
there. ;-)

nik.morgan

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Nov 9, 2012, 2:27:15 AM11/9/12
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Can't you just whirl a coat hanger on a piece of string?
-
ennemm

Lieutenant Scott

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Nov 9, 2012, 10:37:32 AM11/9/12
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Why all the fuss?
If the cyclist crashed, the cyclist dies. No problem.
If the driver gets a ticket, he asks to see the photo, which will clearly show a bicycle in the overtaking position. Same as if a CAR overtook me when I was under the limit. The car which was overtaking would be assumed to be the law breaker.

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JNugent

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Nov 9, 2012, 10:45:03 AM11/9/12
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On 09/11/2012 15:37, Lieutenant Scott wrote:
> On Thu, 08 Nov 2012 23:59:07 -0000, JNugent <jenni...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
>
>> On 08/11/2012 22:19, Mrcheerful wrote:
>>
>>> "....... he would end up coming over my car bonnet."
>>
>>> the rider boasted it was not the first time he had done it.
>>
>>> Are there no depths that cyclists will not drop to?
>>
>>> http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/10036422.Driver_fears_ticket_after_cyclist_triggers_speed_camera/
>>>
>>
>> If the spin put on speed cameras is correct, he needn't worry.
>>
>> The calibration marks on the road surface indicate how far a vehicle has
>> travelled between the (two) camera flashes and exposures. So the driver, if
>> he was doing 28mph, will not be identified as exceeding the 30mph limit.
>>
>> But that only applies if you can legitimately accept that jobsworths in
>> "safety camera partnership" offices always do their job properly and never
>> make a mistake.
>>
>> I'd hate to be trying to defend a case before the Mags where the relevant
>> jobsworth has actually been sloppy but insists that they have been
>> punctilious.
>
> Why all the fuss?
> If the cyclist crashed, the cyclist dies. No problem.
> If the driver gets a ticket, he asks to see the photo, which will clearly
> show a bicycle in the overtaking position. Same as if a CAR overtook me when
> I was under the limit. The car which was overtaking would be assumed to be
> the law breaker.

You are assuming that the bench will invariably be receptive towards
technical evidence.

Sometimes, the bench will be.
>

Lieutenant Scott

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Nov 9, 2012, 10:58:15 AM11/9/12
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One vehicle in left lane, one vehicle in overtaking lane, not really technical is it?

I suppose the cyclist could claim that he was cycling down the wrong side of the road when he was undertaken by a maniac speeder? I don't think that would work somehow.

As I said before, the situation is no different to two cars overtaking each other at a speed trap.

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JNugent

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Nov 9, 2012, 11:01:20 AM11/9/12
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Don't underestimate the propensity of magistrates' benches to accept any
"offical" evidence as game, set and match.

Dave - Cyclists VOR

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Nov 9, 2012, 1:32:40 PM11/9/12
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Which rather nicely shows the maturity level of most cyclists...

--
Dave - Cyclists VOR. "Many people barely recognise the bicycle as a
legitimate mode of transport; it is either a toy for children or a
vehicle fit only for the poor and/or strange," Dave Horton, of Lancaster
University, wrote in an interim assessment of the Understanding Walking
and Cycling study. "For them, cycling is a bit embarrassing, they fail
to see its purpose, and have no interest in integrating it into their
lives, certainly on a regular basis."

Jim Newman

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Nov 10, 2012, 9:04:35 PM11/10/12
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On 08/11/2012 22:19, Mrcheerful wrote:
> "....... he would end up coming over my car bonnet."
>
> http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/10036422.Driver_fears_ticket_after_cyclist_triggers_speed_camera/
>
>

If the car driver was doing 28 mph and the cyclist 30+ mph why would the
cyclist end up on his car bonnet if the driver had to brake?


Jim Newman

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Nov 10, 2012, 9:17:36 PM11/10/12
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On 09/11/2012 18:32, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote:
>>
> Which rather nicely shows the maturity level of most cyclists...
>

*most* cyclists?

Really Dave? Are you *that* stupid?





Bertie Wooster

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Nov 11, 2012, 3:01:48 AM11/11/12
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Need you ask?
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thirty-six

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Nov 11, 2012, 4:56:27 AM11/11/12
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On Nov 11, 2:04 am, Jim Newman <j...@gmaill.con> wrote:
> On 08/11/2012 22:19, Mrcheerful wrote:
>
> > "....... he would end up coming over my car bonnet."
>
> >http://www.watfordobserver.co.uk/news/10036422.Driver_fears_ticket_af...
>
> If the car driver was doing 28 mph and the cyclist 30+ mph why would the
> cyclist end up on his car bonnet if the driver had to brake?

Being in possession of a driving licence issued 37 years past is not
evidence of cognitive ability today. Mr Gurney is probabbley unable
to provide a satisfactory answer to your question. I suspect his
terminology was euphemistic, but don't let that stop you shouting him
down.

Dave - Cyclists VOR

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Nov 11, 2012, 6:30:48 AM11/11/12
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I'm not stupid enough to ride a push bike.

Judith

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Nov 11, 2012, 7:03:38 AM11/11/12
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Cyclists are such wankers that they come over all sorts of places.

Peter Keller

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Nov 12, 2012, 5:01:20 AM11/12/12
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On Sun, 11 Nov 2012 11:30:48 +0000, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote:

> On 11/11/2012 02:17, Jim Newman wrote:
>> On 09/11/2012 18:32, Dave - Cyclists VOR wrote:
>>>>
>>> Which rather nicely shows the maturity level of most cyclists...
>>>
>>>
>> *most* cyclists?
>>
>> Really Dave? Are you *that* stupid?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> I'm not stupid enough to ride a push bike.

I am really glad to be called stupid by the dave.



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Peter Keller

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Nov 12, 2012, 5:02:19 AM11/12/12
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That is a real great honour to be wankered by the duncan.
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