"Electric cars: the silent danger"
Doug
killer drivers this comes along.
"The new breed of quiet battery-powered quiet cars raises safety
concerns for pedestrians and cyclists.
After decades of trying to reduce vehicle noise inside and out, the
motor industry is now looking for ways to make near-silent electric
vehicles conform to minimum noise levels.
The potential problem of whisper-quiet engines is so serious that Lord
Low of Dalston has tabled a Lords question asking the Government what
assessment it has made of the danger the technology poses to
pedestrians and cyclists. Similar concerns are being aired in the US
Senate, and the Japanese government is reviewing the situation. .."
More:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/6460607/Electric-cars-the-silent-danger.html
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A driving licence is a licence to kill.
Jim A
In these times where everyone wanders about either with an i-Pod or
mobile phone glued to their ear, frankly I think this is a non-issue
(unfortunately).
chris French
<j...@averyjim.myzen.co.uk> writes
Maybe they could fit those flap things you could (can?) get to put on
pedal cycles to make it sound like a mototbike?
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Chris French
Rob Horton
There was a news report on the BBC about adding noise generators to
electric cars so that people could hear them. Why not make these noise
generators MP3/Ogg Vorbis/etc compatible then you could have all sorts
of fun sounds for your vehicle. Galloping horses, Sherman Tank,
constantly popping champaign corks, Vulcan Bomber, Tardis, any cartoon
car from your childhood.
Mike P
> Doug wrote:
> > Just when you thought our roads could not be made more dangerous from
> > killer drivers this comes along.
>
> > "The new breed of quiet battery-powered quiet cars raises safety
> > concerns for pedestrians and cyclists.
>
> > After decades of trying to reduce vehicle noise inside and out, the
> > motor industry is now looking for ways to make near-silent electric
> > vehicles conform to minimum noise levels.
>
> > The potential problem of whisper-quiet engines is so serious that Lord
> > Low of Dalston has tabled a Lords question asking the Government what
> > assessment it has made of the danger the technology poses to
> > pedestrians and cyclists. Similar concerns are being aired in the US
> > Senate, and the Japanese government is reviewing the situation. .."
>
> > More:
>
> > --
> > UK Radical Campaigns
> >www.zing.icom43.net
> > A driving licence is a licence to kill.
>
> Why don't they fit a bell to the cars which can be rung when needed.
What, like a horn? Something they already have?
It's yet another non-issue brought up by Doug..
Mike P
Tony Dragon
'Beep electric car approaching please stand clear','Beep electric car
approaching please stand clear'
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Tony Dragon
Keitht
> Just when you thought our roads could not be made more dangerous from
> killer drivers this comes along.
>
> "The new breed of quiet battery-powered quiet cars raises safety
> concerns for pedestrians and cyclists.
>
The new breed of electric cycles - blah blah
The new breed of electric motorcycles - blah blah
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Its never too late to reinvent the bicycle
Tom Crispin
<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote:
>'Beep electric car approaching please stand clear','Beep electric car
>approaching please stand clear'
This was 'discussed' in The Economist a few weeks ago. Some wag
suggested that Mario Karts type music could be blasted out from
electric cars whenever the vehicle is moving.
City centres would become a symphony of various electronic tunes.
JNugent
Perhaps they should each be made to carry a sound-system, pumping out the
sort of noise that makes unwilling listeners feel sick (or homicidal)?
Jim A
>
> Maybe they could fit those flap things you could (can?) get to put on
> pedal cycles to make it sound like a mototbike?
I have a bottle dynamo which fulfils that purpose!
BrianW
> Just when you thought our roads could not be made more dangerous from
> killer drivers this comes along.
>
> "The new breed of quiet battery-powered quiet cars raises safety
> concerns for pedestrians and cyclists.
Perhaps some sort of electronic sound system could be fitted. I have
something like this in mind:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8737107@N04/3742475945/sizes/o/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/8737107@N04/3742474975/sizes/o/
Rind any bells, Doug?
webreader
> On 10 Nov, 07:36, Doug <jag...@riseup.net> wrote:
>
> > Just when you thought our roads could not be made more dangerous from
> > killer drivers this comes along.
>
> > "The new breed of quiet battery-powered quiet cars raises safety
> > concerns for pedestrians and cyclists.
>
> Perhaps some sort of electronic sound system could be fitted. I have
> something like this in mind:
>
>
> Rind any bells, Doug?
'Blah, blah, biggoted old git aproaching','Blah, blah, biggoted old
git aproaching'.
WSR
Pip Luscher
<tony....@btinternet.com> wrote:
>'Beep electric car approaching please stand clear','Beep electric car
>approaching please stand clear'
Nooooo!
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-Pip
Doug
do the trick. Just make drivers solely culpable and imprisonable for
any physical harm they cause and that should make them pay more
attention to the road ahead.
Doug
> Doug wrote:
> > Just when you thought our roads could not be made more dangerous from
> > killer drivers this comes along.
>
> > "The new breed of quiet battery-powered quiet cars raises safety
> > concerns for pedestrians and cyclists.
>
> The new breed of electric cycles - blah blah
>
> The new breed of electric motorcycles - blah blah
>
Tony Dragon
Been there, done that, motorists are not always to blame for accidents,
full stop.
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Tony Dragon
Keitht
You can get battery powered devices that sound like turbo over-run.
Keitht
Dunno - what's the stats on milkfloats being mass-murderers?
Doug
> Doug wrote:
> > On 10 Nov, 15:46, Keitht <KeithT> wrote:
> >> Doug wrote:
> >>> Just when you thought our roads could not be made more dangerous from
> >>> killer drivers this comes along.
> >>> "The new breed of quiet battery-powered quiet cars raises safety
> >>> concerns for pedestrians and cyclists.
> >> The new breed of electric cycles - blah blah
>
> >> The new breed of electric motorcycles - blah blah
>
> > Yes but which kills the most?
>
>
>
unlike electric cars. Suggest tyres with metal studs.
Jim A
> Jim A wrote:
>> chris French wrote:
>>>
>>> Maybe they could fit those flap things you could (can?) get to put on
>>> pedal cycles to make it sound like a mototbike?
>>
>> I have a bottle dynamo which fulfils that purpose!
>
> You can get battery powered devices that sound like turbo over-run.
>
Kewl! :-) I could wire one up to my gear-changer mech.
... or maybe not ...
Mike Causer
> Dunno - what's the stats on milkfloats being mass-murderers?
There was an episode of The Avengers in which a milk-float was heard
each time someone was killed, so there /is/ something to it. I forget
the details, after all it was mid-60's -- and I probably wasn't
concentrating on the plot, just "Emma Peel", at the time.
Mike
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Mike Causer
Keitht
Ah now, there was also the milk float with a bomb on it on Craggy Island.
Deadly things!
Let's be careful now.
Chris Hills
> More:
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/motoring/news/6460607/Electric-cars-the-silent-danger.html
Since you read the telegraph you probably came across this article as well.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/japan/5756797/Electric-cars-forced-to-make-noise.html