OT USA hopefully here soon. Towns ban bicycles from passing through.

[Mrcheerful]

A town in the USA is proposing to ban all cyclists who are just passing
through, with residents saying they are a nuisance and a danger.

residents say cyclists ride on private roads, ignore stop signs and
regularly ride two or three abreast
A couple of years ago a town in Colorado enacted a cyclist ban. Black Hawk,
population 18, according to the 2000 U.S.census - which connects the Peak to
Peak Highway, popular with local cyclists, with Central City Parkway, barred
riders from most of its streets.

Local cycling campaign group Bicycle Colorado reported that police are now
issuing fines to anyone found riding through the town, which in recent years
was revived through the introduction of relaxed gambling laws in the state.

The cyclists' organisation made a formal request that the ban be lifted, but
said that the "council made it clear that they had no intention of changing
their ordinance.

http://road.cc/content/news/84164-us-town-proposes-ban-cyclists-passing-through

[Zapp Brannigan]

"Mrcheerful" <g.odon...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Vlqmt.12847$7h5....@newsfe07.iad...

> A town in the USA is proposing to ban all cyclists who are just passing
> through, with residents saying they are a nuisance and a danger.
>
> residents say cyclists ride on private roads, ignore stop signs and
> regularly ride two or three abreast
> A couple of years ago a town in Colorado enacted a cyclist ban. Black
> Hawk, population 18, according to the 2000 U.S.census - which connects the
> Peak to Peak Highway, popular with local cyclists, with Central City
> Parkway, barred riders from most of its streets.
>
> Local cycling campaign group Bicycle Colorado reported that police are now
> issuing fines to anyone found riding through the town, which in recent
> years was revived through the introduction of relaxed gambling laws in the
> state.

Now overturned by a higher court :
<www.denverpost.com/breakingnews/ci_22517938/colorado-supreme-court-overturns-black-hawks-ban-bikes>
Which seems reasonable, if the cyclists are travelling on public roads &
highways.

Presumably the town will now have to concentrate on specific problem
behaviour ("residents say cyclists ride on private roads, ignore stop signs
and regularly ride two or three abreast") rather than a complete ban on all
bicycling. If the misconduct is as serious as the residents claim, then a
system of fines and impound laws will be self-funding.

[Gefreiter Krueger]

How does that work? Pigs stop everyone and you have to prove you live in the town?

--
Peter is listening to "The club can't handle me - Flo Rida feat. David Guetta"

[Dave- Cyclists VORP]

On 22/05/2013 00:03, Phil W Lee wrote:
> "Zapp Brannigan" <ZBr...@DOOP.com> considered Mon, 20 May 2013

> Of course, they could ticket all the drivers of those gambling buses
> that supposedly can't give the mandatory 3 feet clearance when
> overtaking cyclists - that seems to be the problem behaviour that they
> were trying to blame the victims for.
>
> The easiest would be to put a speed limit in place which would make
> any such overtaking effectively unlawful as well as unnecessary, or
> just ban all overtaking altogether, if it really isn't possible to do
> it safely and legally.
>
But they wouldn't bother. Why pander to the needs of an insignificant
minority, using non viable forms of transport?

--
Dave - Cyclists VORP
"It is time for us to say to cyclists 'You want to join our gang, get
trained and pay up'. John Griffin, Addison Lee.

[nik.morgan]

Or ban cycles, much cheaper and totally effective solution.

--
ennemm

[Geoff Smith]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 00:03:08 +0100, Phil W Lee <ph...@lee-family.me.uk> wrote:

<snip>

>Of course, they could ticket all the drivers of those gambling buses
>that supposedly can't give the mandatory 3 feet clearance when
>overtaking cyclists - that seems to be the problem behaviour that they
>were trying to blame the victims for.

What is this mandatory 3 feet clearance?
--
Wearing a cycle helmet will not kill you.

[Mrcheerful]

Geoff Smith wrote:
> On Wed, 22 May 2013 00:03:08 +0100, Phil W Lee
> <ph...@lee-family.me.uk> wrote:
>
> <snip>
>
>> Of course, they could ticket all the drivers of those gambling buses
>> that supposedly can't give the mandatory 3 feet clearance when
>> overtaking cyclists - that seems to be the problem behaviour that
>> they were trying to blame the victims for.
>
> What is this mandatory 3 feet clearance?

some areas in the states have such a law.

[Phil W Lee]

Judith <m...@privacy.net> considered Wed, 22 May 2013 17:20:51 +0100 the
perfect time to blather:

>On Wed, 22 May 2013 00:03:08 +0100, Phil W Lee <ph...@lee-family.me.uk> wrote:
>
><snip>
>
>>Of course, they could ticket all the drivers of those gambling buses
>>that supposedly can't give the mandatory 3 feet clearance when
>>overtaking cyclists - that seems to be the problem behaviour that they
>>were trying to blame the victims for.
>
>What is this mandatory 3 feet clearance?

The one in the US state concerned.
>--
>Wearing a cycle helmet may kill you.

IFTFY

By the way, your sig separator is broken.

[Mrcheerful]

can you point out any cases where it has been shown that a bicycle helmet
has killed a cyclist in a road crash?

(I do know about the small children that have died of strangulation in
playground type accidents.)

[soup]

Gefreiter Krueger wrote:


> How does that work? Pigs stop everyone and you have to prove you live
> in the town?

With a population of 18 it wouldn't be the work of a genius to know (at
least what they looked like) everyone who lived in the town.

[Gefreiter Krueger]

That isn't a town, that's a hamlet!

--
When shagging a goat you are best taking it to the edge of a cliff because they push back harder. -- Billy Connelly