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Simon Mason

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May 26, 2006, 11:04:44 AM5/26/06
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Last night I took a photo of my mate Derek on his way to the local time
trials, I later blew up the image in his glasses and found an odd self
portrait there ->

http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/zdes.htm


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Heracles Pollux

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May 26, 2006, 11:16:43 AM5/26/06
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"Simon Mason" <si...@simonmason.karoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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Like in Blade Runner!


wafflycat

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May 26, 2006, 11:16:12 AM5/26/06
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"Simon Mason" <si...@simonmason.karoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Last night I took a photo of my mate Derek on his way to the local time
> trials, I later blew up the image in his glasses and found an odd self
> portrait there ->
>
> http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/zdes.htm
>
>

Cor... just like CSI :-)


Nobody Here

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May 26, 2006, 11:35:00 AM5/26/06
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Yeah, but I bet he didn't type furiously at the keyboard and neither
did his computer make that irritating bip-bip-bip-bip-bip-bip noise
as the picture zoomed in while he did the image manipulation. And,
if it was just like CSI he'd be able to zoom in on his eyeballs in
the reflection of himself and see the reflected image of his mate
Derek.

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mt9...@hotmail.com

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May 26, 2006, 11:39:27 AM5/26/06
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Nobody Here wrote:

To be fair he would probably need to apply some sort of unspecified
image enhancement filter which would take about five seconds to
effectively increase the resolution by several orders or magnitude to
do this in even CSI world

Simon Mason

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May 26, 2006, 12:33:06 PM5/26/06
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"Nobody Here" <no...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:44772024$0$10784

>
> Yeah, but I bet he didn't type furiously at the keyboard and neither
> did his computer make that irritating bip-bip-bip-bip-bip-bip noise
> as the picture zoomed in while he did the image manipulation.


It was only Photoshop and I couldn't zoom in on my own eyes as I had non
reflecting glasses on.

Nobody Here

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May 26, 2006, 1:17:12 PM5/26/06
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Simon Mason <si...@simonmason.karoo.co.uk> wrote:
>
> "Nobody Here" <no...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:44772024$0$10784
>>
>> Yeah, but I bet he didn't type furiously at the keyboard and neither
>> did his computer make that irritating bip-bip-bip-bip-bip-bip noise
>> as the picture zoomed in while he did the image manipulation.
>
>
> It was only Photoshop and I couldn't zoom in on my own eyes as I had non
> reflecting glasses on.

Hmmm, I'm not sure if you're responding ironically to the irony I tried
to express or if you're defending not being able to do something that's
technically impossibly no matter how much software, money and
technology you throw at it. :-)

Just in case ... it'd be impossible to do that because your pupils
in the reflection will probably be less than a pixel, and nothing
in heaven or earth can possibly reconstruct the detail of whatever's
in that pixel. Only on CSI-world is that possible. That's one of
the most irritating things they do in that program, except for the
bip-bip-bip noises all their computers make, which was barely
acceptable in the '60s with teletype video terminals being depicted
at 300 baud, and makes no sense in this day and age where there can
be almost no one in the developed world who has not come across
a computer, and none of them will have ever noticed their computers
making that noise when mindows resize on the screen or results appear.

But don't start me ...


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MSeries

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May 26, 2006, 2:16:58 PM5/26/06
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What is CSI ?

Tony Raven

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May 26, 2006, 2:17:34 PM5/26/06
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Nobody Here wrote:
>
> That's one of
> the most irritating things they do in that program, except for the
> bip-bip-bip noises all their computers make, which was barely
> acceptable in the '60s with teletype video terminals being depicted
> at 300 baud, and makes no sense in this day and age where there can
> be almost no one in the developed world who has not come across
> a computer, and none of them will have ever noticed their computers
> making that noise when mindows resize on the screen or results appear.
>

Have you noticed also in the movies when they receive an e-mail, its
never on a recognisable e-mail package such as OE or TB or Opera but
something that pops ups a big "You've got mail" in the middle of the screen?

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Tony

"Anyone who conducts an argument by appealing to authority is not using
his intelligence; he is just using his memory."
- Leonardo da Vinci

MatSav

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May 26, 2006, 2:22:35 PM5/26/06
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"MSeries" <skank...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> What is CSI ?

In this context, it's an American television programme depicting the
exploits of a forensic science team - "Crime Scene Investigation".

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lwedge

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May 26, 2006, 2:38:17 PM5/26/06
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MSeries Wrote:
> >
> >
> What is CSI ?
Cycling Socks International


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Nobody Here

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May 26, 2006, 2:46:49 PM5/26/06
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Tony Raven <ju...@raven-family.com> wrote:
> Nobody Here wrote:
>>
>> That's one of
>> the most irritating things they do in that program, except for the
>> bip-bip-bip noises all their computers make, which was barely
>> acceptable in the '60s with teletype video terminals being depicted
>> at 300 baud, and makes no sense in this day and age where there can
>> be almost no one in the developed world who has not come across
>> a computer, and none of them will have ever noticed their computers
>> making that noise when mindows resize on the screen or results appear.
>>
>
> Have you noticed also in the movies when they receive an e-mail, its
> never on a recognisable e-mail package such as OE or TB or Opera but
> something that pops ups a big "You've got mail" in the middle of the screen?

Yeah. Often the OS is unrecognisable too, although I suspect some of them
are Apple OS variants. I did wonder if there were some copyright issues
or something involved. I'd have thought it unlikely the M$ wouldn't want
their OS all over TV and movie screens, but it may be that they won't
have it associated with criminal activity - much like you know something
bad's going to happen on an aeroplane if it isn't a recognisable carrier.

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Brian G

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May 26, 2006, 2:51:06 PM5/26/06
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Tony Raven wrote:
> Nobody Here wrote:
>>
>> That's one of
>> the most irritating things they do in that program, except for the
>> bip-bip-bip noises all their computers make, which was barely
>> acceptable in the '60s with teletype video terminals being depicted
>> at 300 baud, and makes no sense in this day and age where there can
>> be almost no one in the developed world who has not come across
>> a computer, and none of them will have ever noticed their computers
>> making that noise when mindows resize on the screen or results appear.
>>
>
> Have you noticed also in the movies when they receive an e-mail, its
> never on a recognisable e-mail package such as OE or TB or Opera but
> something that pops ups a big "You've got mail" in the middle of the
> screen?

Oh good, I thought that was some software everyone knew about except me!


--
Brian G

Clive George

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May 26, 2006, 2:52:49 PM5/26/06
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"Nobody Here" <no...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> Tony Raven <ju...@raven-family.com> wrote:
>> Nobody Here wrote:
>>
>> Have you noticed also in the movies when they receive an e-mail, its
>> never on a recognisable e-mail package such as OE or TB or Opera but
>> something that pops ups a big "You've got mail" in the middle of the
>> screen?
>
> Yeah. Often the OS is unrecognisable too, although I suspect some of them
> are Apple OS variants. I did wonder if there were some copyright issues
> or something involved.

I suspect the reason is rather more mundane : the big box is just to make it
really obvious to the viewer what's going on.

cheers,
clive

Simon Mason

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May 26, 2006, 3:48:06 PM5/26/06
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"Nobody Here" <no...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:44773818$0$10755

>>
>> It was only Photoshop and I couldn't zoom in on my own eyes as I had non
>> reflecting glasses on.
>
> Hmmm, I'm not sure if you're responding ironically to the irony I tried
> to express or if you're defending not being able to do something that's
> technically impossibly no matter how much software, money and
> technology you throw at it. :-)
>

I probably didn't get the gag due to the fact that I've never seen CSI! I
don't really watch that much TV these days. It's either got Big Brother or
East Enders on it so I tend to steer clear.

MSeries

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May 26, 2006, 3:57:48 PM5/26/06
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Same here but the RHS CHelsea FLower Show on BBC 2 has been nice this
week !!

Simon Mason

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May 26, 2006, 4:08:04 PM5/26/06
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"Nobody Here" <no...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message news:44773818$0$10755

> Just in case ... it'd be impossible to do that because your pupils
> in the reflection will probably be less than a pixel, and nothing
> in heaven or earth can possibly reconstruct the detail of whatever's
> in that pixel. Only on CSI-world is that possible.

So that story I read about someone blowing up the photo of Buzz Aldrin's
visor on the Moon to reveal a black helicopter was rubbish then? ;-)

lwedge

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May 26, 2006, 4:03:29 PM5/26/06
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Simon Mason Wrote:
> Last night I took a photo of my mate Derek on his way to the local time
> trials, I later blew up the image in his glasses and found an odd self
> portrait there ->
>
>
Shame on both of you for not wearing helmets. :D


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lwedge

Jim Price

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May 26, 2006, 4:21:38 PM5/26/06
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Simon Mason wrote:
> I probably didn't get the gag due to the fact that I've never seen CSI! I
> don't really watch that much TV these days. It's either got Big Brother or
> East Enders on it so I tend to steer clear.

I've never seen CSI either, but I am watching coverage of the Giro today
at this very moment on Eurosport2. I can almost understand what Sean
Kelly is saying now.

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JimP

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Simon Bennett

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May 26, 2006, 5:01:55 PM5/26/06
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Jim Price wrote:

> I can almost understand what
> Sean Kelly is saying now.

Why? He makes a lot of sense; makes a point of keeping up to date with
virtually every rider's profile and performance, and - naturally - really
knows his stuff. Perhaps you've just got used to cycling commentators
talking out of their arses?!


Jim Price

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May 26, 2006, 5:13:42 PM5/26/06
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Um, no. It has taken me a long time to get to grips with his accent.
Once over that hurdle, he is, as you point out, a very good commentator.

Nobody Here

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May 26, 2006, 6:11:02 PM5/26/06
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Dunno. I guess it could have been, if the photo of Buzz Aldrin's helmet
on the Moon was hiding a black helicopter before it was blown up.

--
Nobby Anderson

Simon Brooke

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in message <lwedge...@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com>, lwedge
('lwedge...@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com') wrote:

Get thee beneath thy bridge, troll.

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lwedge

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May 26, 2006, 7:26:29 PM5/26/06
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Simon Brooke Wrote:
> Get thee beneath thy bridge, troll.
> Hey Simon, you don't mind if I pick you up and throw you down there to
break my fall do you ?

Eh, tuff guy ?


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lwedge

Mark McNeill

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May 26, 2006, 8:12:46 PM5/26/06
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Response to Nobody Here:

> > So that story I read about someone blowing up the photo of Buzz Aldrin's
> > visor on the Moon to reveal a black helicopter was rubbish then? ;-)
>
> Dunno. I guess it could have been, if the photo of Buzz Aldrin's helmet
> on the Moon was hiding a black helicopter before it was blown up.
>

Shirley as any fule kno, the moon landings were faked -

http://www.stuffucanuse.com/fake_moon_landings/moon_landings.htm

--
Mark, UK
"The shepherd always tries to persuade the sheep that their interests
and his own are the same."

OG

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May 26, 2006, 8:33:55 PM5/26/06
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"Tony Raven" <ju...@raven-family.com> wrote in message
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> Nobody Here wrote:
>>
>> That's one of
>> the most irritating things they do in that program, except for the
>> bip-bip-bip noises all their computers make, which was barely
>> acceptable in the '60s with teletype video terminals being depicted
>> at 300 baud, and makes no sense in this day and age where there can
>> be almost no one in the developed world who has not come across
>> a computer, and none of them will have ever noticed their computers
>> making that noise when mindows resize on the screen or results appear.
>>
>
> Have you noticed also in the movies when they receive an e-mail, its never
> on a recognisable e-mail package such as OE or TB or Opera but something
> that pops ups a big "You've got mail" in the middle of the screen?
>

That'll be Lotus 'ng Notes then.


Tim Binns

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May 27, 2006, 3:50:28 AM5/27/06
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You people wouldn'e belive the things I have seen... I've seen a bald
bloke wobbling up the road in rainbow reflective shades while his mate
nearly dropped the 'kin camera...

Tim Binns

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May 27, 2006, 3:58:33 AM5/27/06
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On Fri, 26 May 2006 23:08:59 +0100, Simon Brooke
<si...@jasmine.org.uk> wrote:

>in message <lwedge...@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com>, lwedge
>('lwedge...@no-mx.forums.cyclingforums.com') wrote:
>
>> Simon Mason Wrote:
>>> Last night I took a photo of my mate Derek on his way to the local
>>> time trials, I later blew up the image in his glasses and found an odd
>>> self portrait there ->
>>>
>> Shame on both of you for not wearing helmets. :D
>
>Get thee beneath thy bridge, troll.

FWIW, the derivation of trolling comes from a fishing technique of
drawing a baited hook through the water, waiting for a little fishie
to come along.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trolling_for_fish

Seems quite an apt in comparison to the act of dangling threads baited
with contentious comments on a newsgroup and waiting for the
predictable responses...

David Martin

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May 27, 2006, 6:49:05 AM5/27/06
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Wheras a troll inhabits a bridge and will only respond to people trying
to cross said bridge.
Bit like people who hang about in newsgroups and only respond when
triggered by certain subjects.

..d

Tim Binns

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May 27, 2006, 6:55:22 AM5/27/06
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On 27 May 2006 03:49:05 -0700, "David Martin"
<martin...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:

>
[snippage]


>
>Wheras a troll inhabits a bridge and will only respond to people trying
>to cross said bridge.
>Bit like people who hang about in newsgroups and only respond when
>triggered by certain subjects.
>
>..d

Oo-er. Is this a sly (& somewhat inaccurate) dig or am *I* being
trolled?

Subtle is generally good, but too much subtle is obscure. Use a smiley
next time.

Jim Price

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May 27, 2006, 8:16:43 AM5/27/06
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Tim Binns wrote:
> On 27 May 2006 03:49:05 -0700, "David Martin"
> <martin...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
>
> [snippage]
>> Wheras a troll inhabits a bridge and will only respond to people trying
>> to cross said bridge.
>> Bit like people who hang about in newsgroups and only respond when
>> triggered by certain subjects.
>>
>> ..d
>
> Oo-er. Is this a sly (& somewhat inaccurate) dig or am *I* being
> trolled?

I suspect neither, see below.

> Subtle is generally good, but too much subtle is obscure. Use a smiley
> next time.

I initially had a problem with that statement too, as I only respond
when triggered by certain subjects (er, don't we all?). Then it became
obvious which subjects were being referred to. There is no need in your
case to be so sensitive.

JimP

--
" " - John Cage

Simon Brooke

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May 27, 2006, 11:58:00 AM5/27/06
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in message <e59fgp$nss$1...@nntp.aioe.org>, Jim Price
('jim.e....@gmail.com') wrote:

> --
> " " - John Cage

Love the .sig

"The result is a language that... not even its mother could
love. Like the camel, Common Lisp is a horse designed by
committee. Camels do have their uses."
;; Scott Fahlman, 7 March 1995


Tom

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wafflycat <w*a*ffŁyŁcat*@Łbtco*nnŁect.com> wrote:
> "Simon Mason" <si...@simonmason.karoo.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:f-ecnRonH6O...@karoo.co.uk...
>> Last night I took a photo of my mate Derek on his way to the local
>> time trials, I later blew up the image in his glasses and found an
>> odd self portrait there ->
>>
>> http://www.simonmason.karoo.net/zdes.htm
>>
>>
>
> Cor... just like CSI :-)

I was thinking more like Bladerunner

Zoom - enhance - zoom - enhance

Tom
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Julesh

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May 27, 2006, 2:25:15 PM5/27/06
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Simon Brooke wrote:
> in message <e59fgp$nss$1...@nntp.aioe.org>, Jim Price
> ('jim.e....@gmail.com') wrote:
>
>
>>--
>>" " - John Cage
>
>
> Love the .sig
>
But is this the 4:32 sig or the full half hour?


Julesh

Mark McNeill

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May 27, 2006, 2:33:11 PM5/27/06
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Response to Julesh:

> >>" " - John Cage
> >
> >
> > Love the .sig
> >
> But is this the 4:32 sig or the full half hour?
>

Years ago a mate of mine was at a concert where it was performed.
Halfway through, the pianist accidentally touched the keyboard and
sounded a note; the rest of the performance consisted of muffled giggles
from the audience.

--
Mark, UK
"You are in a maze of twisty little passages, all different."

Jim Price

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May 27, 2006, 5:47:57 PM5/27/06
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Shush!

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JimP

Bows.
</walks>.
Interval.

Clive George

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"Julesh" <canned_l...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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I prefer the Mike Batt version.

cheers,
clive

Ambrose Nankivell

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"Clive George" <cl...@xxxx-x.fsnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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I prefer the Nicholas Cage version.


Tom Anderson

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May 29, 2006, 6:35:29 PM5/29/06
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On Fri, 26 May 2006, Nobody Here wrote:

> Tony Raven <ju...@raven-family.com> wrote:
>> Nobody Here wrote:
>>
>>> That's one of the most irritating things they do in that program,
>>> except for the bip-bip-bip noises all their computers make,
>>

>> Have you noticed also in the movies when they receive an e-mail, its
>> never on a recognisable e-mail package such as OE or TB or Opera but
>> something that pops ups a big "You've got mail" in the middle of the
>> screen?
>

> Yeah. Often the OS is unrecognisable too, although I suspect some of
> them are Apple OS variants.

On '24' [1], i understand, they do use recognisable OSs - specifically,
the good guys use Macs, and the bad guys, Windows.

tom

[1] Another US cops'n'robbers series

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Dave Larrington

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May 30, 2006, 8:20:43 AM5/30/06
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In article <e57qjn$ntp$1...@nntp.aioe.org>, Jim Price
(jim.e....@gmail.com) wrote:
> Simon Bennett wrote:
> > Jim Price wrote:
> >
> >> I can almost understand what
> >> Sean Kelly is saying now.
> >
> > Why? He makes a lot of sense; makes a point of keeping up to date with
> > virtually every rider's profile and performance, and - naturally - really
> > knows his stuff. Perhaps you've just got used to cycling commentators
> > talking out of their arses?!
> >
> Um, no. It has taken me a long time to get to grips with his accent.
> Once over that hurdle, he is, as you point out, a very good commentator.

Times have changed since his riding days, then. Keely was the man who
made Jack Brabham look loquacious, and is reputedly the only sportsman
in the history of all things ever to have replied to a radio
interviewer's question with a nod :-)

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chain to the floor and walk up and down on it in high heels.

MSeries

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May 30, 2006, 9:07:40 AM5/30/06
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I met Sean Kelly once in Serre Chevalier. He said "Steady mles boys,
that' what you need, steady miles"

Danny Colyer

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May 30, 2006, 4:46:09 PM5/30/06
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Tony Raven wrote:
>>Have you noticed also in the movies when they receive an e-mail, its
>>never on a recognisable e-mail package such as OE or TB or Opera but
>>something that pops ups a big "You've got mail" in the middle of the screen?

and Nobody Here responded:

> Yeah. Often the OS is unrecognisable too...

It'll be Hollywood OS:
<url:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_operating_system>


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