Not a resident - I live between two Yorkshire villages, but I do ride in that area from time to time, but never on the pavements, so not really of concern to me at all.
>Not a resident - I live between two Yorkshire villages, but I do ride >in that area from time to time, but never on the pavements, so not >really of concern to me at all.
What a wanker.
What's your post-code?
Why do you insist on posting shite about Hull on other occasions?
Simple really. -- Simon Mason - who cycles at 25mph in 20mph limits just because the limits do not apply to cyclists. This includes exceeding the speed limit past three schools. A total disregard for the well-being of vulnerable road users. The actions of a true psycholist.
Not a resident - I live between two Yorkshire villages, but I do ride in that area from time to time, but never on the pavements, so not really of concern to me at all.
-- Simon Mason
I would have thought that everyone should be concerned about people who break the law. Woops, silly me.
> Not a resident - I live between two Yorkshire villages, but I do ride > in that area from time to time, but never on the pavements, so not > really of concern to me at all.
> -- > Simon Mason
> I would have thought that everyone should be concerned about people who > break the law.
Why should I worry about people breaking the law miles away? The Police have the powers to impose spot fines over a minor nuisance somewhere and I should lose sleep over it? How odd.
> > Not a resident - I live between two Yorkshire villages, but I do ride > > in that area from time to time, but never on the pavements, so not > > really of concern to me at all.
> > -- > > Simon Mason
> > I would have thought that everyone should be concerned about people who > > break the law.
> Why should I worry about people breaking the law miles away? > The Police have the powers to impose spot fines over a minor nuisance > somewhere and I should lose sleep over it? > How odd.
> -- > Simon Mason
Cyclists breaking the law is only a monor nuisance, why is it no suprise that this is a cyclists answer.
> > > > Is there a Hull resident who could comment.
> > > Not a resident - I live between two Yorkshire villages, but I do ride > > > in that area from time to time, but never on the pavements, so not > > > really of concern to me at all.
> > > -- > > > Simon Mason
> > > I would have thought that everyone should be concerned about people who > > > break the law.
> > Why should I worry about people breaking the law miles away? > > The Police have the powers to impose spot fines over a minor nuisance > > somewhere and I should lose sleep over it? > > How odd.
> > -- > > Simon Mason
> Cyclists breaking the law is only a monor nuisance, why is it no > suprise that this is a cyclists answer.- Hide quoted text -
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The spot fine of just 30 pounds would bear out that it is just a minor nuisance, no injuries have been caused as yet as far as I'm aware. On the other hand, bad parkers get fined 175 quid which shows you how much worse they are viewed due to their illegal trespassing and then having the gall to cry about it when caught.
>> > > Is there a Hull resident who could comment.
>> > Not a resident - I live between two Yorkshire villages, but I do ride >> > in that area from time to time, but never on the pavements, so not >> > really of concern to me at all.
>> > -- >> > Simon Mason
>> > I would have thought that everyone should be concerned about people who >> > break the law.
>> Why should I worry about people breaking the law miles away? >> The Police have the powers to impose spot fines over a minor nuisance >> somewhere and I should lose sleep over it? >> How odd.
>> -- >> Simon Mason
>Cyclists breaking the law is only a monor nuisance, why is it no >suprise that this is a cyclists answer.
Do you consider a three year old riding their bike on the pavement outside their home a serious nuisance?
> Not a resident - I live between two Yorkshire villages, but I do ride > in that area from time to time, but never on the pavements, so not > really of concern to me at all.
> -- > Simon Mason
> I would have thought that everyone should be concerned about people who > break the law.
Why should I worry about people breaking the law miles away? The Police have the powers to impose spot fines over a minor nuisance somewhere and I should lose sleep over it? How odd.
-- Simon Mason
I should not have asked you the question. You had nowhere to run. Sorry about that.
>>>> Not a resident - I live between two Yorkshire villages, but I do ride >>>> in that area from time to time, but never on the pavements, so not >>>> really of concern to me at all.
>>>> -- >>>> Simon Mason
>>>> I would have thought that everyone should be concerned about people who >>>> break the law.
>>> Why should I worry about people breaking the law miles away? >>> The Police have the powers to impose spot fines over a minor nuisance >>> somewhere and I should lose sleep over it? >>> How odd.
>>> -- >>> Simon Mason
>> Cyclists breaking the law is only a monor nuisance, why is it no >> suprise that this is a cyclists answer.
> Do you consider a three year old riding their bike on the pavement > outside their home a serious nuisance?
The word "serious" has to be qualified by the circumstances.
If the house were an isolated dwelling in the coiuntryside with a short stretch of footway outside, probably not.
In a suburb, maybe. It would depend on who else needs to use the footway, including pedestrians, bus-users, vehicles crossing the footway to gaiun access to driveways, etc.
Any parent, though, who chooses to let a 3-yr-old out onto the highway on a bike needs their head testing. Did you really mean *three* years old?
>>>> Not a resident - I live between two Yorkshire villages, but I do ride >>>> in that area from time to time, but never on the pavements, so not >>>> really of concern to me at all.
>>>> -- >>>> Simon Mason
>>>> I would have thought that everyone should be concerned about people who >>>> break the law.
>>> Why should I worry about people breaking the law miles away? >>> The Police have the powers to impose spot fines over a minor nuisance >>> somewhere and I should lose sleep over it? >>> How odd.
>>> -- >>> Simon Mason
>> Cyclists breaking the law is only a monor nuisance, why is it no >> suprise that this is a cyclists answer.- Hide quoted text -
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> The spot fine of just 30 pounds would bear out that it is just a minor > nuisance, no injuries have been caused as yet as far as I'm aware. > On the other hand, bad parkers get fined 175 quid which shows you how > much worse they are viewed due to their illegal trespassing and then > having the gall to cry about it when caught.
>>>>>> Is there a Hull resident who could comment.
>>>>> Not a resident - I live between two Yorkshire villages, but I do ride >>>>> in that area from time to time, but never on the pavements, so not >>>>> really of concern to me at all.
>>>>> -- >>>>> Simon Mason
>>>>> I would have thought that everyone should be concerned about people who >>>>> break the law.
>>>> Why should I worry about people breaking the law miles away? >>>> The Police have the powers to impose spot fines over a minor nuisance >>>> somewhere and I should lose sleep over it? >>>> How odd.
>>>> -- >>>> Simon Mason
>>> Cyclists breaking the law is only a monor nuisance, why is it no >>> suprise that this is a cyclists answer.
>> Do you consider a three year old riding their bike on the pavement >> outside their home a serious nuisance?
>The word "serious" has to be qualified by the circumstances.
In that case we are in agreement.
>If the house were an isolated dwelling in the coiuntryside with a short >stretch of footway outside, probably not.
>In a suburb, maybe. It would depend on who else needs to use the footway, >including pedestrians, bus-users, vehicles crossing the footway to gaiun >access to driveways, etc.
>Any parent, though, who chooses to let a 3-yr-old out onto the highway on a >bike needs their head testing. Did you really mean *three* years old?
It was a hypothetical question. I would have expected you to understand that - clearly I misjudged, and for that I am sorry.
>>>>>>> Is there a Hull resident who could comment.
>>>>>> Not a resident - I live between two Yorkshire villages, but I do ride >>>>>> in that area from time to time, but never on the pavements, so not >>>>>> really of concern to me at all.
>>>>>> -- >>>>>> Simon Mason
>>>>>> I would have thought that everyone should be concerned about people who >>>>>> break the law.
>>>>> Why should I worry about people breaking the law miles away? >>>>> The Police have the powers to impose spot fines over a minor nuisance >>>>> somewhere and I should lose sleep over it? >>>>> How odd.
>>>>> -- >>>>> Simon Mason
>>>> Cyclists breaking the law is only a monor nuisance, why is it no >>>> suprise that this is a cyclists answer.
>>> Do you consider a three year old riding their bike on the pavement >>> outside their home a serious nuisance?
>> The word "serious" has to be qualified by the circumstances.
> In that case we are in agreement.
>> If the house were an isolated dwelling in the coiuntryside with a short >> stretch of footway outside, probably not.
>> In a suburb, maybe. It would depend on who else needs to use the footway, >> including pedestrians, bus-users, vehicles crossing the footway to gaiun >> access to driveways, etc.
>> Any parent, though, who chooses to let a 3-yr-old out onto the highway on a >> bike needs their head testing. Did you really mean *three* years old?
> It was a hypothetical question. I would have expected you to > understand that - clearly I misjudged, and for that I am sorry.
No need to be "sorry". My answer was also hypothetical. I am sorry and surprised that you could not understand that.
> Not a Hull resident, but am a cyclist and welcome any initiative by > lawful authority that clamps down on illegal activities.
> -- > Paul - xxx
I shall be cycling through Hull on next Wednesday afternoon on my way to the Ferry terminal -- towing my trailer, on road but avoiding the busy A63. Except on the last mile where there is a cycle track on the north side which takes me up to roundabout leading to the entrance of the dock. Been through Hull on this run a few times now and there are just a few roads to avoid with heavy commercial traffic but otherwise I have always found it OK.
I, unlike an awful lot of POB's in the Doncaster area, cycle on road at all times, slightly left of centre in my lane on dual carriageways, There are a few shared use pavements but they are generally unkempt, littered with detritus, have endless junctions and pedestrians in herds -- I keep well clear! Pavement riding is antisocial, time wasting, and hazardous both to pedestrians and cyclists!
> > Not a Hull resident, but am a cyclist and welcome any initiative by > > lawful authority that clamps down on illegal activities.
> > -- > > Paul - xxx
> I shall be cycling through Hull on next Wednesday afternoon on my way to > the Ferry terminal -- towing my trailer, on road but avoiding the busy A63. > Except on the last mile where there is a cycle track on the north side which > takes me up to roundabout leading to the entrance of the dock. > Been through Hull on this run a few times now and there are just a few roads > to avoid with heavy commercial traffic but otherwise I have always found it > OK.
> I, unlike an awful lot of POB's in the Doncaster area, cycle on road at all > times, slightly left of centre in my lane on dual carriageways, There are a > few shared use pavements but they are generally unkempt, littered with > detritus, have endless junctions and pedestrians in herds -- I keep well > clear! Pavement riding is antisocial, time wasting, and hazardous both to > pedestrians and cyclists!
Unfortunately though some cyclists are under the illusion that pavements are safer than roads. They ignore the fact that motorists sometimes also use pavements and indeed crash across them while taking lives in the process. Until this myth of pavement safety is exposed some cyclists will continue to use them. Pavements actually are more inconvenient than roads, cluttered as they are with street furniture, pedestrians and often without dropped kerbs at numerous intersections where the cyclist has to stop and give way.
> >>>>> Is there a Hull resident who could comment.
> >>>> Not a resident - I live between two Yorkshire villages, but I do ride > >>>> in that area from time to time, but never on the pavements, so not > >>>> really of concern to me at all.
> >>>> -- > >>>> Simon Mason
> >>>> I would have thought that everyone should be concerned about people who > >>>> break the law.
> >>> Why should I worry about people breaking the law miles away? > >>> The Police have the powers to impose spot fines over a minor nuisance > >>> somewhere and I should lose sleep over it? > >>> How odd.
> >>> -- > >>> Simon Mason
> >> Cyclists breaking the law is only a monor nuisance, why is it no > >> suprise that this is a cyclists answer.- Hide quoted text -
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> > The spot fine of just 30 pounds would bear out that it is just a minor > > nuisance, no injuries have been caused as yet as far as I'm aware. > > On the other hand, bad parkers get fined 175 quid which shows you how > > much worse they are viewed due to their illegal trespassing and then > > having the gall to cry about it when caught.
> On May 15, 6:41 am, "Trevor A Panther" > <ta...@Psantispamblueyonder.co.uk> wrote: >> "Paul - xxx"<notcheckede...@hotmail.com> wrote in messagenews:937pguF1dmU1@mid.individual.net...
>>> Not a Hull resident, but am a cyclist and welcome any initiative by >>> lawful authority that clamps down on illegal activities.
>>> -- >>> Paul - xxx
>> I shall be cycling through Hull on next Wednesday afternoon on my way to >> the Ferry terminal -- towing my trailer, on road but avoiding the busy A63. >> Except on the last mile where there is a cycle track on the north side which >> takes me up to roundabout leading to the entrance of the dock. >> Been through Hull on this run a few times now and there are just a few roads >> to avoid with heavy commercial traffic but otherwise I have always found it >> OK.
>> I, unlike an awful lot of POB's in the Doncaster area, cycle on road at all >> times, slightly left of centre in my lane on dual carriageways, There are a >> few shared use pavements but they are generally unkempt, littered with >> detritus, have endless junctions and pedestrians in herds -- I keep well >> clear! Pavement riding is antisocial, time wasting, and hazardous both to >> pedestrians and cyclists!
> Unfortunately though some cyclists are under the illusion that > pavements are safer than roads. They ignore the fact that motorists > sometimes also use pavements and indeed crash across them while taking > lives in the process. Until this myth of pavement safety is exposed > some cyclists will continue to use them. Pavements actually are more > inconvenient than roads, cluttered as they are with street furniture, > pedestrians and often without dropped kerbs at numerous intersections > where the cyclist has to stop and give way.
> Doug.
Trust you to try to twist a sensible post from what appears to be a normal cyclist who respects other road users.
> I shall be cycling through Hull on next Wednesday afternoon on my way to > the Ferry terminal -- towing my trailer, on road but avoiding the busy A63. > Except on the last mile where there is a cycle track on the north side which > takes me up to roundabout leading to the entrance of the dock. > Been through Hull on this run a few times now and there are just a few roads > to avoid with heavy commercial traffic but otherwise I have always found it > OK.
If I was coming in from the west, I would cycle south of the Humber through Scunthorpe, ride across the Humber Bridge (no toll for cyclists) then cycle down Livingstone Road, Hessle to Sainsbury's roundabout, then carry my bike down to the Foreshore. I'd then ride past Makro, Mr Chu's, Albert Dock, the Marina, The Deep and then arrive at the ferry terminal having ridden all along the side of the estuary. Sadly though, it would not be possible with a trailer, as you have to carry your bike up and down a few steps at various points.
> > Not a resident - I live between two Yorkshire villages, but I do ride > > in that area from time to time, but never on the pavements, so not > > really of concern to me at all.
> > -- > > Simon Mason
> > I would have thought that everyone should be concerned about people who > > break the law.
> Why should I worry about people breaking the law miles away? > The Police have the powers to impose spot fines over a minor nuisance > somewhere and I should lose sleep over it? > How odd.
> -- > Simon Mason
> I should not have asked you the question. You had nowhere to run. > Sorry about that.
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Do you worry about some yobs buying fags under age, or swigging lager in a park 5 miles away? Thought not.
> > >> Is there a Hull resident who could comment.
> > > Not a Hull resident, but am a cyclist and welcome any initiative by > > > lawful authority that clamps down on illegal activities.
> > > -- > > > Paul - xxx
> > I shall be cycling through Hull on next Wednesday afternoon on my way to > > the Ferry terminal -- towing my trailer, on road but avoiding the busy A63. > > Except on the last mile where there is a cycle track on the north side which > > takes me up to roundabout leading to the entrance of the dock. > > Been through Hull on this run a few times now and there are just a few roads > > to avoid with heavy commercial traffic but otherwise I have always found it > > OK.
> > I, unlike an awful lot of POB's in the Doncaster area, cycle on road at all > > times, slightly left of centre in my lane on dual carriageways, There are a > > few shared use pavements but they are generally unkempt, littered with > > detritus, have endless junctions and pedestrians in herds -- I keep well > > clear! Pavement riding is antisocial, time wasting, and hazardous both to > > pedestrians and cyclists!
> Unfortunately though some cyclists are under the illusion that > pavements are safer than roads.
They should be for pedestrians.
>They ignore the fact that motorists > sometimes also use pavements and indeed crash across them while taking > lives in the process.
In the big scheme of things, not a common event.
>Until this myth of pavement safety is exposed > some cyclists will continue to use them.
You mean the anti-social arrogant cyclists.
> Pavements actually are more > inconvenient than roads,
They are very convient for pedestrians.
> cluttered as they are with street furniture,
Where would this street furniture go?
> pedestrians
Cant have pedestrians on pavements getting in the way of cyclists can we?
> and often without dropped kerbs at numerous intersections > where the cyclist has to stop and give way.
Cant have cyclists having to give way when they are riding in an illegal way can we.
>>>> Not a resident - I live between two Yorkshire villages, but I do ride >>>> in that area from time to time, but never on the pavements, so not >>>> really of concern to me at all.
>>>> -- >>>> Simon Mason
>>>> I would have thought that everyone should be concerned about people who >>>> break the law.
>>> Why should I worry about people breaking the law miles away? >>> The Police have the powers to impose spot fines over a minor nuisance >>> somewhere and I should lose sleep over it? >>> How odd.
>>> -- >>> Simon Mason
>> Cyclists breaking the law is only a monor nuisance, why is it no >> suprise that this is a cyclists answer.
> Do you consider a three year old riding their bike on the pavement > outside their home a serious nuisance?
The appropriate use of a childs toy by a child is fine. Its when anti social adults try using childrens toys as a form of transport on modern roads that the problems occur.
> Unfortunately though some cyclists are under the illusion that > pavements are safer than roads.
Most cyclists are under the illusion that they are allowed on pavements - they aren't.
> They ignore the fact that motorists > sometimes also use pavements and indeed crash across them while taking > lives in the process.
For 'sometimes' read 'very rarely'.
> Until this myth of pavement safety is exposed > some cyclists will continue to use them.
Not some. Most.
> Pavements actually are more > inconvenient than roads, cluttered as they are with street furniture, > pedestrians and often without dropped kerbs at numerous intersections > where the cyclist has to stop and give way.
That would be because they were designed for pedestrians.
> > > >> Is there a Hull resident who could comment.
> > > > Not a Hull resident, but am a cyclist and welcome any initiative by > > > > lawful authority that clamps down on illegal activities.
> > > > -- > > > > Paul - xxx
> > > I shall be cycling through Hull on next Wednesday afternoon on my way to > > > the Ferry terminal -- towing my trailer, on road but avoiding the busy A63. > > > Except on the last mile where there is a cycle track on the north side which > > > takes me up to roundabout leading to the entrance of the dock. > > > Been through Hull on this run a few times now and there are just a few roads > > > to avoid with heavy commercial traffic but otherwise I have always found it > > > OK.
> > > I, unlike an awful lot of POB's in the Doncaster area, cycle on road at all > > > times, slightly left of centre in my lane on dual carriageways, There are a > > > few shared use pavements but they are generally unkempt, littered with > > > detritus, have endless junctions and pedestrians in herds -- I keep well > > > clear! Pavement riding is antisocial, time wasting, and hazardous both to > > > pedestrians and cyclists!
> > Unfortunately though some cyclists are under the illusion that > > pavements are safer than roads.
> They should be for pedestrians.
> >They ignore the fact that motorists > > sometimes also use pavements and indeed crash across them while taking > > lives in the process.
> In the big scheme of things, not a common event.
> >Until this myth of pavement safety is exposed > > some cyclists will continue to use them.
> You mean the anti-social arrogant cyclists.
> > Pavements actually are more > > inconvenient than roads,
