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dailuggs

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Sep 4, 2003, 8:38:10 PM9/4/03
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im tempted to give my hy6brid a new look- buyt quite like the look of
the frame so was wondering if its possible to paint the spokes- how
should i go about it- spray on or brush on paint? could i paint the
wheel aswell, and what about the tyre? advice much appreciated- im bored
of the silver wheels with black tyres but i dont wanna pay for a new
tyre or wheel

any advice is much appreciated

thanx in advance

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chris French

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Sep 5, 2003, 3:15:36 AM9/5/03
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In message <3f57dfa2$1...@news.chariot.net.au>, dailuggs
<usenet...@cyclingforums.com> writes

>im tempted to give my hy6brid a new look- buyt quite like the look of
>the frame so was wondering if its possible to paint the spokes- how
>should i go about it- spray on or brush on paint? could i paint the
>wheel aswell, and what about the tyre?

Ever thought there might be good reason why people don't on the whole
try this....?

No, this is extremely dangerous. A bicycle wheel is a carefully balanced
object, meddling with it like this can cause untold problems. The extra
weight of the paint on the spokes, can, in extreme cases cause the wheel
to disintegrate.


Also there have been cases where the colours on the spokes once the
wheel was rotating have caused strange effects on observers, who's
aesthetic sense centre in the brain has overloaded . The first court
case on this matter (in the US of course) is wending it's way through
the system, it seems likely that the offending cyclist could be sued for
some millions of dollars. (it seems they have started decorating their
house with pink and lilac fake fur, their wife has left them).

However, if you wish to try this risky activity yes I guess you can
paint them - not the braking surfaces though of course. nor the contact
area of the tyre.

Easiest way would be I guess just to spray it all. However, it would be
nice to paint some bits in different colours, maybe you could pick out
alternate spokes in a contrasting colour by hand.

My daughter has a good collection of glitter and sparkly sprinkles she
uses for sticking on bits of paper (and liberally sprinkling around the
place....), I reckon sticking some of these onto the painted spokes
would really look the biz.

--
Chris French, Leeds

Steve

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Sep 5, 2003, 5:20:14 AM9/5/03
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Chris French wrote intelligently in message ...

> The extra weight of the paint on the spokes, can, in
> extreme cases cause the wheel to disintegrate.

Not if he uses the special spoke paint which is formulated to be a drying
thickness of 17.75 microns, so that doesn't put the wheel out of balance.

> Also there have been cases where the colours on the spokes once

> the wheel was rotating have caused strange effects on observers.

That can happen with new shiny spokes in low sunlight too, so it's best to
let them get dirty and stay dirty.

> You can paint them - not the contact area of the tyre.

It actually prolongs the life of the tyre and gives them more grip, if you
paint them with that sticky black pitch stuff they paint on the bottom of
steel boats.

> it would be nice to paint some bits in different colours,

Agreed there ... much safer too.

> My daughter has a good collection of glitter and sparkly sprinkles

Only if it says on the tin " Dries to a thickness of 17.75 microns"
otherwise it could spell "Dangner".


Andy P

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Sep 6, 2003, 10:38:26 AM9/6/03
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"chris French" <newsp...@chrisfrench.org> wrote

> No, this is extremely dangerous. A bicycle wheel is a carefully balanced
> object, meddling with it like this can cause untold problems. The extra
> weight of the paint on the spokes, can, in extreme cases cause the wheel
> to disintegrate.

So that great big heavy plastic reflector thingy I took off my spokes was an
essential wheel balancing item was it? Bugger, where did I put it.


Henry Braun

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Sep 6, 2003, 12:28:59 PM9/6/03
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I hope you put it opposite the valve. Obviously it weighs more than the
valve, even with the dustcap and lockring on, but then it's much closer to
the axle so its rotating weight counts for less. If you don't have cloth
rim tape, with a double layer near the valve (and of course this weight is
right at the rim so is most significant) to help with the counterbalance,
you should break off a corner of the reflector as soon as possible.
Fortunately they seem to be designed for this to happen.

Ben

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Sep 6, 2003, 3:17:44 PM9/6/03
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"Steve" <stevie_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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....


> Only if it says on the tin " Dries to a thickness of 17.75 microns"
> otherwise it could spell "Dangner".

And there's not a lot of tins know how to spell "dangner".


Steve

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Sep 6, 2003, 4:09:39 PM9/6/03
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Ben wrote in message ...

> And there's not a lot of tins know how to spell "dangner".

which is why I wrote ...
> otherwise it could **spell** "Dangner" (sic).

I still keep worrying about those spokes though :~(

Isn't red paint heavier than white paint, in which case there should be a
British Standard for advising of colour paints relative weights, to prevent
disintegration of wheels due to incorrectly coloured-in spokes.


dailuggs

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Sep 6, 2003, 3:54:34 PM9/6/03
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hmm seems like unless i get the proper micron paint stuff it aint worth
it- and i bet that costs a bit aswell, as to the spokes disintergrating
thats worrying, think ill keep my spokes cleaner from now on and put
that reflector that fell off back on

cheers for the advice

Andy P

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Sep 6, 2003, 4:45:01 PM9/6/03
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"chris French" <newsp...@chrisfrench.org> wrote

> No, this is extremely dangerous. A bicycle wheel is a carefully balanced
> object, meddling with it like this can cause untold problems. The extra
> weight of the paint on the spokes, can, in extreme cases cause the wheel
> to disintegrate.

Can you still get those little bead things that slid over your spokes and
slid up and down as the wheel went round or were they discontinued for
safety reasons when it was discovered the poor kids who couldn't afford a
full set kept falling off their unbalanced bikes?


Andy P

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Sep 6, 2003, 4:55:21 PM9/6/03
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"Steve" <stevie_...@hotmail.com> wrote

> > Also there have been cases where the colours on the spokes once
> > the wheel was rotating have caused strange effects on observers.
>
> That can happen with new shiny spokes in low sunlight too, so it's best to
> let them get dirty and stay dirty.

Only if the dirt forms itself in a 17.75 micron layer. Better to blind a
few pedestrians than have your wheel fall apart.


Sandy Morton

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Sep 6, 2003, 6:01:23 PM9/6/03
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In article <bjdhe8$2q8$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>, Andy P

<an...@andy100.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> > That can happen with new shiny spokes in low sunlight too, so it's
> > best to let them get dirty and stay dirty.

> Only if the dirt forms itself in a 17.75 micron layer. Better to blind
> a few pedestrians than have your wheel fall apart.

Dirt appears to come in severeal sizes - Horse, cow, dog, seaweed and sand
come to mind - I haven't yet seen a 17.5 micron piece of horse s--t:-)
but they are all a pita to remove.

Sandy Morton

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Sep 6, 2003, 5:56:56 PM9/6/03
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In article <7ar6b.2611$j66.23...@news-text.cableinet.net>, Steve

<stevie_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Isn't red paint heavier than white paint, in which case there should be
> a British Standard for advising of colour paints relative weights, to
> prevent disintegration of wheels due to incorrectly coloured-in spokes.

Red spokes will absorb heat and will expand making for a looser wheel.
White spokes will stay cooler and will keep a more rigid wheel. To
counteract for the imbalance caused by the valve it may be necessary to
use a metallic undercoat on the group of spokes diametrically opposite the
valve. However when the valve cap is lost ?


All IMVHO:-)

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T h e - e x t e n d e r ! ! ! !

Sandy Morton

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Sep 6, 2003, 5:58:23 PM9/6/03
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In article <bjdgqh$25u$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>, Andy P

<an...@andy100.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
> Can you still get those little bead things that slid over your spokes
> and slid up and down as the wheel went round or were they discontinued
> for safety reasons when it was discovered the poor kids who couldn't
> afford a full set kept falling off their unbalanced bikes?

They are readily available - I have them ex stock and whilst I don't like
them they do keep the spokes clean.

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A T (Sandy) Morton
on the Bicycle Island
In the Global Village
http://www.sandymillport.fsnet.co.uk

Dave

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Sep 7, 2003, 5:45:31 PM9/7/03
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"Andy P" <an...@andy100.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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Ah!! maybe this explains the lad involved in the cycle race in Greece who
fell off for 'no reason' and is now facing court....?
;-)
Dave.


Alan Braggins

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Sep 8, 2003, 1:31:56 PM9/8/03
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In article <bjdgqh$25u$1...@news8.svr.pol.co.uk>, Andy P wrote:
>"chris French" <newsp...@chrisfrench.org> wrote
>
>> No, this is extremely dangerous. A bicycle wheel is a carefully balanced
>> object, meddling with it like this can cause untold problems. The extra
>> weight of the paint on the spokes, can, in extreme cases cause the wheel
>> to disintegrate.
>
>Can you still get those little bead things that slid over your spokes and
>slid up and down as the wheel went round

My five year old has some. But they only slide up and down starting off
and stopping, at full speed they just stay at the rim end of the spoke all
the way around.

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