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Mas...@bp.com

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Jun 9, 2009, 4:39:35 PM6/9/09
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Mas...@bp.com

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Jun 9, 2009, 4:48:09 PM6/9/09
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On 9 June, 21:39, "Mas...@BP.com" <Mas...@BP.com> wrote:
> Peddling (sic) cyclists warned in Bournemouth, Dorset.
>
> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5480922/Unifo...
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> Simon Mason in Berlin

Safespeed is on the case though!!!!!

Roger Thorpe

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Jun 9, 2009, 4:53:29 PM6/9/09
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Will you stop making these inflammatory posts.
Some of us believe Bournemouth to be part of Hampshire. Dorset ends at
Branksome and nothing worthwhile lies east of that.

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Roger Thorpe

Standing on a golf course, dressed in PVC.....

Martin

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Jun 9, 2009, 4:54:03 PM6/9/09
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I even disagree with them over this. People visiting the beach should
expect not to have cyclists whizzing around them.

btw. I also liked the linked article:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/fashion/5476687/High-vis-Britain.html

Martin.

Mas...@bp.com

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Jun 9, 2009, 5:01:45 PM6/9/09
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On 9 June, 21:53, Roger Thorpe <myinitialdotmysurn...@warwick.ac.uk>
wrote:

> Mas...@BP.com wrote:
> > Peddling (sic) cyclists warned in Bournemouth, Dorset.
>
> >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5480922/Unifo...

>
> > Simon Mason in Berlin
>
> Will you stop making these inflammatory posts.
> Some of us believe Bournemouth to be part of Hampshire. Dorset ends at
> Branksome and nothing worthwhile lies east of that.
>
> --
> Roger Thorpe
>
> Standing on a golf course, dressed in PVC.....

I thought Dorset was wrong when I posted it. Glad you confirmed it.

Mas...@bp.com

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Jun 9, 2009, 5:04:53 PM6/9/09
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I have just been around Romania for a week and was stunned to see the
peasants on horse and carts with the drivers in a high vis jacket! Is
nothing sacred?

Roger Thorpe

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Jun 9, 2009, 5:16:33 PM6/9/09
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Well technically you were correct, since the border changed in
1970something to bring Bournemouth into Dorset. I suppose some will be
used to the idea but I'm not.

Matt B

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Jun 9, 2009, 5:29:28 PM6/9/09
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I like this bit:
"Despite their zealous pursuit, the officials had no powers to punish
offenders with fines as cyclists don't have speedometers and so don't
know when they break the law."

I wonder if the the same council shows the same leniency towards car
drivers overstaying their car parking time limit if they don't have
watches and so don't know when /they/ break the law? ;-)

--
Matt B

James

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Jun 9, 2009, 5:30:49 PM6/9/09
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On Jun 10, 6:29 am, Matt B <matt.bou...@nospam.london.com> wrote:
> Mas...@BP.com wrote:
> > Peddling (sic) cyclists warned in Bournemouth, Dorset.
>
> >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5480922/Unifo...

>
> I like this bit:
> "Despite their zealous pursuit, the officials had no powers to punish
> offenders with fines as cyclists don't have speedometers and so don't
> know when they break the law."
>


It has been pointed out before that this sort of statement is stupid
and illogical. The facts are that speeding laws do not generally apply
(IIRC there are some places where there are legally-sanctioned
limits), and cyclists have no requirement for a speedometer, but the
former is not due to the latter.

James

Matt B

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Jun 9, 2009, 5:37:52 PM6/9/09
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James wrote:
> On Jun 10, 6:29 am, Matt B <matt.bou...@nospam.london.com> wrote:
>> Mas...@BP.com wrote:
>>> Peddling (sic) cyclists warned in Bournemouth, Dorset.
>>> http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5480922/Unifo...
>> I like this bit:
>> "Despite their zealous pursuit, the officials had no powers to punish
>> offenders with fines as cyclists don't have speedometers and so don't
>> know when they break the law."
>
> It has been pointed out before that this sort of statement is stupid
> and illogical.

Yes, by me, amongst others.

--
Matt B

Peter Grange

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Jun 9, 2009, 5:48:12 PM6/9/09
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Is peddling cycles anything like pedaling drugs?

Mas...@bp.com

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Jun 9, 2009, 5:53:49 PM6/9/09
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On 9 June, 22:48, Peter Grange <pe...@plgrange.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Jun 2009 13:39:35 -0700 (PDT), "Mas...@BP.com"
>
> <Mas...@BP.com> wrote:
> >Peddling (sic) cyclists warned in Bournemouth, Dorset.
>
> >http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/howaboutthat/5480922/Unifo...

>
> >Simon Mason in Berlin
>
> Is peddling cycles anything like pedaling drugs?

The mistake is so common one wonders if it is deliberate.

chris French

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Jun 9, 2009, 5:58:59 PM6/9/09
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In message <79829sF...@mid.individual.net>, Matt B
<matt....@nospam.london.com> writes

But the cyclists aren't breaking the law, leastways not the law on
speeding anyway.
--
Chris French

Andy Key

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Jun 9, 2009, 7:33:09 PM6/9/09
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chris French wrote:
>
> But the cyclists aren't breaking the law, leastways not the law on
> speeding anyway.

No, they're breaking a Bournemouth Council *byelaw* which limits bicycle
speed to 10mph. That's still a law, and breaking it can lead to
prosecution. I'm curious now to see what the byelaw actually says. FOI
request duly submitted...

Roger Merriman

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Jun 10, 2009, 3:42:36 AM6/10/09
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Andy Key <and...@freewheelzzz.zzzplus.comzzz> wrote:

if it's anything like the one around Richmound park, they can tell you
off but not much else, though apparently Richmound park is getting that
changed or changed already.

roger
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Happi Monday

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Jun 11, 2009, 6:15:04 AM6/11/09
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My response would be:

"good morning officer....now go f**k yourself!"

mileburner

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Jun 11, 2009, 6:44:04 AM6/11/09
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"Happi Monday" <ha...@monday.com> wrote in message
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<big smile> "You are 'aving a larrrf, aint cha? C'mon where are the cameras?
Where's Jeremy Beadle then?"


MatSav

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Jun 14, 2009, 7:04:41 AM6/14/09
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"Roger Merriman" <NE...@wodger.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> Andy Key <and...@freewheelzzz.zzzplus.comzzz> wrote:
>
>> chris French wrote:
>> >
>> > But the cyclists aren't breaking the law, leastways not the
>> > law on
>> > speeding anyway.
>>
>> No, they're breaking a Bournemouth Council *byelaw* which
>> limits bicycle
>> speed to 10mph. That's still a law, and breaking it can lead
>> to
>> prosecution. I'm curious now to see what the byelaw actually
>> says. FOI
>> request duly submitted...
>
> if it's anything like the one around Richmound park, they can
> tell you
> off but not much else, though apparently Richmound park is
> getting that
> changed or changed already.

Speed limits in the Royal Parks apply to *all* vehicles,
including bicycles. The lack of a speedometer does not negate the
need to comply with the law, as the principle in English law is
"ignorance is no excuse".

--
MatSav


Marc

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Jun 14, 2009, 7:59:44 AM6/14/09
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The ruling is "ignorance of the law is no defence" so it's not an
excuse to say "I didn't know it was illegal to speed here/carry drugs"
it is a defence to say "I didn't know I was carrying drugs"( This was
explained to me and another 11 people a long time ago and at great
length by a judge and defence barrister.) I'll let others argue about
whether "I didn't know I was speeding" is a defence.
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