For Sale
Michael Parker
Lets start the bidding at £25.00 per gallon
Matt Claydon
"Michael Parker" <mic...@dma-services.co.uk> wrote in message
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> 5 Gal Unleaded Petrol
>
>
> Lets start the bidding at £25.00 per gallon
>
>
:-)
LOL
Matt.
Chris Burrow
> 5 Gal Unleaded Petrol
> Lets start the bidding at £25.00 per gallon
I bid £25 + a pair of roller blades and a shopping trolley. *8-)
John Byrne
- Gouging, profiteering, thieving F*$#ing scum!
I'd like to buy a gallon and set the bastard on fire with it.
--I feel much better now thats off my chest........
JB
(long-suffering & very skint 728i owner.....)
Roger
>
> 5 Gal Unleaded Petrol
>
> Lets start the bidding at £25.00 per gallon
Someone was trying to sell a full fag lighter for a tenner at work ;-)
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Mart
"John Byrne" <des...@microlights.ltd.uk> wrote in message
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> We've already got a local independent garage selling u/l for £10 per
gallon!
> - Gouging, profiteering, thieving F*$#ing scum!
> I'd like to buy a gallon and set the bastard on fire with it.
When everything gets back to normal (whatever normal is) people should
remember the petrol stations who charged extortionate rates and boycott
them.
Colin Stamp
<roger.c...@removethis.virgin.net> wrote:
>Roger (on my pushbike, which runs on pizza, beer and chocolate)
Lucky you don't need to get it MOT'd. The emissions must be
diabolical.
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What more could you want!
Nothing like finished, by the way.
adventurer
scoff
other half could be put to good use and torch Tony Blair!!
Devil worshiping scumbag that he is...Problem now is if he backs down he is
finished, if he doesn't he is buggered big time..He could have turned the
whole thing round 3 months ago and reduced tax because of the opec increase
in price and won a few votes.
Ok add stupid to the previous list of abuse. Goes to show you can't trust a
lawyer!!!
Neil McDonald
business!
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ACM
adventurer <advent...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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to sell, through no fault of their own. If someone is prepared to buy the
petrol at this price then why not?
Al
adventurer
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> it's called exploitation
> they have made more profit in the last few days than they would have made
in weeks normally. so that makes up for it,and it will affect us all
financially not just the petrol stations
but it's for a good cause
>
scoff
charging £2 per litre was an esso one! not a small independent. I know that
they are franchised but I do believe that they all offer a price match
facility...Why didn't people insist on that?
I went past tesco's today and noticed they had put up the price of their
fresh air from 77.9ppl to 81.9ppl so who do you think is going to capitalise
on the sudden influx of business when they have fuel. All garages will do
the same, they must to recoup the money they have lost over the last few
days. In the end all this fuss will die down and we, the beloved motorists
will have higher fuel prices than we did at the start of it all??
However hopefully we will get rid of that scumbag, devils concubine of a PM
which we have!! would pay £3 per litre for that to happen!!
adventurer
James Dore <james...@new.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message
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> exploitation is a perfectly valid (and necessary) part of a free market
> - you see a change in the market and you exploit it accordingly,
> otherwise you go bust. They have stuff that's in high demand and short
> supply. So they charge as much as they can get away with. Some people
> won't be able to afford it. In cold, hard, economic terms, Tough. I
> thought you'd have learned that from 18 years of Tory rule. Those who
> can pay do, they don't have to like it.
>
> What do you expect will happen when supply is artificially limited? And
> yes, while they may have made more profit /per litre sold/ this week
> than last, they won't have sold very many litres (that limited supply
> thing again) so won't have made much. Maybe not even enough to cover
> their costs. Again, it will be the small, independent garages that
> suffer most, without the backup of a large, multinational petrol company
> behind themn to soak up the losses. They've just as much right not to go
> out of business as the protestors themselves have, and that's what
> they're doing.
>
> Cheers,
> James
I would love to know the name of your business,so I can make sure I never go
there
Steve
J.L.E
> exploitation is a perfectly valid (and necessary) part of a free market
> - you see a change in the market and you exploit it accordingly,
> otherwise you go bust. They have stuff that's in high demand and short
> supply. So they charge as much as they can get away with. Some people
> won't be able to afford it. In cold, hard, economic terms, Tough. I
> thought you'd have learned that from 18 years of Tory rule. Those who
> can pay do, they don't have to like it.
>
> What do you expect will happen when supply is artificially limited? And
> yes, while they may have made more profit /per litre sold/ this week
> than last, they won't have sold very many litres (that limited supply
> thing again) so won't have made much. Maybe not even enough to cover
> their costs. Again, it will be the small, independent garages that
> suffer most, without the backup of a large, multinational petrol company
> behind themn to soak up the losses. They've just as much right not to go
> out of business as the protestors themselves have, and that's what
> they're doing.
>
One flaw in what you say. When the crises is over, all those who have tried
to make a 'quick buck' will find that people wont use the company, just as
people didn't have anything to do with the black marketers after WW two
(memories can also be very long..) even though they may well have used those
same black marketers to get needed supplies..
In short, yes they make a killing during the crises but they stand a good
chance of there company being killed off though lack of support after.
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DervMan
> Update to previous post:
>
> Local garage is now selling u/l for £5 per LITRE!!!!!
>
> -- He's also got about 30 or so people protesting outside his forecourt
now
> with banners reading "thieving bastard" etc.....
>
> Hope he burns in hell!
Where? Where? Where?
DervMan
James Dore
Exploitation my arse: It's market economics and nothing more, in fact
exploitation is a perfectly valid (and necessary) part of a free market
- you see a change in the market and you exploit it accordingly,
otherwise you go bust. They have stuff that's in high demand and short
supply. So they charge as much as they can get away with. Some people
won't be able to afford it. In cold, hard, economic terms, Tough. I
thought you'd have learned that from 18 years of Tory rule. Those who
can pay do, they don't have to like it.
What do you expect will happen when supply is artificially limited? And
yes, while they may have made more profit /per litre sold/ this week
than last, they won't have sold very many litres (that limited supply
thing again) so won't have made much. Maybe not even enough to cover
their costs. Again, it will be the small, independent garages that
suffer most, without the backup of a large, multinational petrol company
behind themn to soak up the losses. They've just as much right not to go
out of business as the protestors themselves have, and that's what
they're doing.
Cheers,
James
Tight Guard Security
petrol 77.9p a litre but now in Hastings its 89.9p a litre. Ok with none
left but that was old stock but they to got on the band wagon and put it up.
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James Dore <james...@new.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message
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Mike B
> Exploitation my arse: It's market economics and nothing more, in fact
> exploitation is a perfectly valid (and necessary) part of a free market
> - you see a change in the market and you exploit it accordingly,
> otherwise you go bust. They have stuff that's in high demand and short
> supply. So they charge as much as they can get away with. Some people
> won't be able to afford it. In cold, hard, economic terms, Tough. I
> thought you'd have learned that from 18 years of Tory rule. Those who
> can pay do, they don't have to like it.
So it's perfectly OK then to fly down to some starvation-zone in Africa,
and charge 50 quid for the loaves of bread and bottles of water you
brought with you is it? Suppose you found yourself with a broken down
car in the middle of nowhere, and I came along and lent you my
mobile. You'd be happy to pay 100 quid for the privilege of using it
for a few minutes would you? I'd be delighted to charge you that much
for it, and I'm glad to hear you'd be happy to pay whatever I ask to
call the AA out. Here's hoping you don't find yourself in need of such
a service soon...
Mike
James Dore
[Funnily enough, my TR7 has required the use of the AA quite a few times
recently. Fortunately, there's always an emergency phone about a mile
away, and I'm not too idle to walk. I don't mind, it's part of owning an
older car that I've wanted since I was six.]
In terms of market economics, yes, that is perfectly ok, if a bit futile
- in your rather hyperbolic example I don't think demand is that
elastic. Nobody has to buy it. I don't have to use your mobile. Note, my
last line states that "Those who can pay do, they don't have to like
it." You seem to be implying that someone is holding a gun to my head so
that I have no other choice but to use it. No-one is going to starve to
death because petrol is £11 a gallon. Companies might go bust, but in
pure economic terms, that is a regrettable part of reality.
People don't have to buy petrol. I'm fortunate enough to be able to
cycle to work (5 miles each way) although it's lousy in the wet. But
it's faster than my car, on an ordinary day (i.e. when there's no
roadworks, and there are lots). Before I moved to Oxford, I used to live
just north of Sheffield in the Peak District, and went to a large
comprehensive school just inside the Peak National Park. The "School
run" was a ten minute canter on a horse.
Fuel shortages aren't the End Of Life As We Know It - just an
inconvenient change in our schedules to which we'll have to adapt, and
good practice for when the oil supply is naturally limited - there's no
oil left. I can't see what all the fuss is about, beyond a
microscopically short-term agenda.
James
John Byrne
Local garage is now selling u/l for £5 per LITRE!!!!!
-- He's also got about 30 or so people protesting outside his forecourt now
with banners reading "thieving bastard" etc.....
Hope he burns in hell!
JB
James Dore
>
> James Dore <james...@new.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:39BF4239...@new.ox.ac.uk...
> there
> Steve
I work for BT, mate.
James
James Dore
>
> James Dore <james...@new.ox.ac.uk> wrote in message
> news:39BF4239...@new.ox.ac.uk...
> >
> > exploitation is a perfectly valid (and necessary) part of a free market
> > - you see a change in the market and you exploit it accordingly,
> > otherwise you go bust. They have stuff that's in high demand and short
> > supply. So they charge as much as they can get away with. Some people
> > won't be able to afford it. In cold, hard, economic terms, Tough. I
> > thought you'd have learned that from 18 years of Tory rule. Those who
> > can pay do, they don't have to like it.
> >
> > What do you expect will happen when supply is artificially limited? And
> > yes, while they may have made more profit /per litre sold/ this week
> > than last, they won't have sold very many litres (that limited supply
> > thing again) so won't have made much. Maybe not even enough to cover
> > their costs. Again, it will be the small, independent garages that
> > suffer most, without the backup of a large, multinational petrol company
> > behind themn to soak up the losses. They've just as much right not to go
> > out of business as the protestors themselves have, and that's what
> > they're doing.
> >
>
> to make a 'quick buck' will find that people wont use the company, just as
> people didn't have anything to do with the black marketers after WW two
> (memories can also be very long..) even though they may well have used those
> same black marketers to get needed supplies..
>
> In short, yes they make a killing during the crises but they stand a good
> chance of there company being killed off though lack of support after.
Fair point, and I think that the people in question would probably have
thought of that. They are probably not making a killing, however - like
I said before, they'll only charge that amount on what little petrol
they've got left - Turnover will be very low, so profits will be low,
even though they're charging a lot per unit. Once supplies are
restored, they'll have to drop their prices to compete again, possibly
to /lower/ than 'normal' prices to get their customer base back.
No-one is going to come out of this better off than before (except
perhaps people might be a bit fitter from walking, and the air less
polluted) you can only do as the protesters are doing, and try to
survive it.
James
David Thornber
<james...@new.ox.ac.uk> writes
>Fair point, and I think that the people in question would probably have
>thought of that. They are probably not making a killing, however - like
>I said before, they'll only charge that amount on what little petrol
>they've got left - Turnover will be very low, so profits will be low,
>even though they're charging a lot per unit. Once supplies are
>restored, they'll have to drop their prices to compete again, possibly
>to /lower/ than 'normal' prices to get their customer base back.
>
after tax - the retailer keeps 5p and pays 15p to the oil company to
cover production, transportation and their profit margins.
Most of the allegedly 'profiteering' garages have opted for the 199p
maximum that their pumps imposed. Based on a previous selling price of
80p/litre, that's 250% of the original price. They have still paid the
15p/litre to the oil company, but are now bringing in 50p per litre
after tax.
So, a 5p/litre profit margin has increased to 35p/litre - a 600%
increase. I for one won't be forgiving and forgetting.
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James Dore
>
> In article <39C09445...@new.ox.ac.uk>, James Dore
> <james...@new.ox.ac.uk> writes
> >Fair point, and I think that the people in question would probably have
> >thought of that. They are probably not making a killing, however - like
> >I said before, they'll only charge that amount on what little petrol
> >they've got left - Turnover will be very low, so profits will be low,
> >even though they're charging a lot per unit. Once supplies are
> >restored, they'll have to drop their prices to compete again, possibly
> >to /lower/ than 'normal' prices to get their customer base back.
> >
> Using round figures, each litre of petrol sold normally generates 20p
> after tax - the retailer keeps 5p and pays 15p to the oil company to
> cover production, transportation and their profit margins.
>
> Most of the allegedly 'profiteering' garages have opted for the 199p
> maximum that their pumps imposed. Based on a previous selling price of
> 80p/litre, that's 250% of the original price. They have still paid the
> 15p/litre to the oil company, but are now bringing in 50p per litre
> after tax.
>
> So, a 5p/litre profit margin has increased to 35p/litre - a 600%
> increase. I for one won't be forgiving and forgetting.
Fine, but:
As an example, one of the garages with fuel at the high price has (IIRC
from the Independent this morning) around 400 litres before they run
dry. 35p*400l=14,000p, or £140. which will have to last them to the end
of the drought, which is conservatively estimated at three days.
According to the same report, the same garages get through two
tankerloads every two days, which is about 60,000 litres.
5p*60,000l=300,000p or £3000
So, raise the price to earn £140 to last three, four or five days,
against roughly £3000 for two days' normal trade.
Profiteering? Or just staying alive?
Cheers,
James
Guy King
from David Thornber <nos...@thornber.co.uk> contains these words:
> So, a 5p/litre profit margin has increased to 35p/litre - a 600%
> increase. I for one won't be forgiving and forgetting.
I bought a couple of tankfulls of LRP and one of diesel today with
another to come tomrrow when the bus gets back...at ordinary prices.
They haven't gone up since the start of the problems.
--
Skipweasel........one who relieves strangers of what they didn't want.