Apollo Sprayer
Dave Plowman
car use. Now I've sussed out that the instructions - such as they are -
are rubbish, I'm getting on ok with it. The trick appears to be to turn
the flow almost off, and use much thinner paint than they say. About 14
second is fine for the first primer coat, then around 18 for filler and as
little as 10 for the top - this is with cellulose. Now I'm wondering if
the same technique would have worked with the Earlex.
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Dave Plowman <dave....@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>Just an update for those interested in a light and portable sprayer for
>car use. Now I've sussed out that the instructions - such as they are -
>are rubbish, I'm getting on ok with it.
This is interesting to me anyway.
I've been thinking about purchasing one of these Earlex sprayers but the
instructions stipulate "not suitable for cellulose", Is this because the
Earlex plastic construction and components are likely to become damaged
by spraying such a corrosive thinner like cellulose through it?.
As i'm sure you know Cellulose thinners will dissolve certain plastics.
I have some fencing in dire need of creosoting but it's too long to
consider using a brush to apply creosote with.
If i buy an Earlex i would also hope to be able to use it for spraying
small areas of cellulose to the car when touch ups are needed.
Steve.
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Dave Plowman
<st...@painting-pointers.co.uk> wrote:
> >Just an update for those interested in a light and portable sprayer for
> >car use. Now I've sussed out that the instructions - such as they are -
> >are rubbish, I'm getting on ok with it.
> This is interesting to me anyway.
> I've been thinking about purchasing one of these Earlex sprayers but the
> instructions stipulate "not suitable for cellulose", Is this because the
> Earlex plastic construction and components are likely to become damaged
> by spraying such a corrosive thinner like cellulose through it?.
> As i'm sure you know Cellulose thinners will dissolve certain plastics.
No - IIRC, it's some form of safety thing - maybe to do with the electrics
arcing in a confined space and thinners being so inflammable. Think they
sell the same thing as suitable in countries with less stringent regs.
I've used cellulose in mine with no ill effects. The gun that came with
the Apollo is also mainly plastic.
> I have some fencing in dire need of creosoting but it's too long to
> consider using a brush to apply creosote with.
> If i buy an Earlex i would also hope to be able to use it for spraying
> small areas of cellulose to the car when touch ups are needed.
I've got a little used top of the range one still with its box if you're
interested. But I can't guarantee how well it can be made to work with car
stuff, but it's certainly ok and very fast for things like cresote or
emulsion, etc.
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Dave Plowman <dave....@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>> Is this because the Earlex plastic construction and components are
>> likely to become damaged by spraying such a corrosive thinner like
>> cellulose through it?. As i'm sure you know Cellulose thinners will
>> dissolve certain plastics.
>
>No - IIRC, it's some form of safety thing - maybe to do with the electrics
>arcing in a confined space and thinners being so inflammable. Think they
>sell the same thing as suitable in countries with less stringent regs.
>I've used cellulose in mine with no ill effects. The gun that came with
>the Apollo is also mainly plastic.
So it does actually spray cellulose without any adverse effects. ;-)
I know some countries are getting quite tough with regulations
prohibiting the spraying of cellulose.
I've seen an Earlex SG45 on offer at Homebase for about twenty quid IIRC
although i couldn't really expect much from it because i've been used to
proper spraying equipment but the Earlex could prove quite useful around
the home.
>> If i buy an Earlex i would also hope to be able to use it for spraying
>> small areas of cellulose to the car when touch ups are needed.
>
> I've got a little used top of the range one still with its box if you're
>interested. But I can't guarantee how well it can be made to work with car
>stuff, but it's certainly ok and very fast for things like cresote or
>emulsion, etc.
A top of the range sprayer might be more than i wish to pay out at the
moment hence my initial interest in the 20 quid SG45 at Homebase.
For curiosity at what price are you selling yours for and what model is
it?.
Dave Plowman
<st...@painting-pointers.co.uk> wrote:
> A top of the range sprayer might be more than i wish to pay out at the
> moment hence my initial interest in the 20 quid SG45 at Homebase.
When I say top of the range, it's top of the range for Earlex.
> For curiosity at what price are you selling yours for and what model is
> it?.
It's a 75. Which is IIRC roughly what it cost about a year ago. If they're
only 20 quid these days I'll keep it. It works very well for clarting on
primer/filler - it's just that I never got it to work well with top coat.
Not that I experimented much at 30 quid a litre.
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sweller
> I have some fencing in dire need of creosoting but it's too long to
> consider using a brush to apply creosote with.
Use a pump up garden type sprayer.
<voice of experience>
When applying creosote outside with any type of sprayer, make sure you
aren't downwind. Some form of eye protection and hood, (like those
white disposable paper hooded overalls) is also a good idea.
</voe>
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Dave Plowman <dave....@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>> For curiosity at what price are you selling yours for and what model is
>> it?.
>
>It's a 75. Which is IIRC roughly what it cost about a year ago. If they're
>only 20 quid these days I'll keep it. It works very well for clarting on
>primer/filler - it's just that I never got it to work well with top coat.
>Not that I experimented much at 30 quid a litre.
I thought the top of the range Earlex would be nearer to 100 quid.
I'm sure i'll be able to squeeze through some celly when the time comes
to do the car. ;-)
I'll nip down to Homebase and buy one while they're still on offer, then
i can experiment with some cheap Cellulose i have lying around before i
buy the expensive stuff.
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sweller <n...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>> I have some fencing in dire need of creosoting but it's too long to
>> consider using a brush to apply creosote with.
>
>
>Use a pump up garden type sprayer.
>
><voice of experience>
>When applying creosote outside with any type of sprayer, make sure you
>aren't downwind. Some form of eye protection and hood, (like those
>white disposable paper hooded overalls) is also a good idea.
></voe>
>
Good idea but wouldn't creosote perish internal rubbers/seals seeing as
it's a solvent based substance, Unlike using normal garden water based
pesticides IYSWIM.
I have several white paper overalls left over from my spraying days that
will be more than suitable considering they were used to spray Two Pack.
sweller
>>Use a pump up garden type sprayer.
>>
>><voice of experience>
>>When applying creosote outside with any type of sprayer, make sure
>>you aren't downwind. Some form of eye protection and hood, (like
>>those white disposable paper hooded overalls) is also a good idea.
>></voe>
>>
> Good idea but wouldn't creosote perish internal rubbers/seals seeing
> as it's a solvent based substance, Unlike using normal garden water
> based pesticides IYSWIM.
>
Eventually they probably will, but the one I have has been going strong
for the last three years (two fence and shed spraying sessions, the
second a little more protected!)
They're cheap enough to be practically disposable anyway.
Dave Plowman
<st...@painting-pointers.co.uk> wrote:
> >When applying creosote outside with any type of sprayer, make sure you
> >aren't downwind. Some form of eye protection and hood, (like those
> >white disposable paper hooded overalls) is also a good idea.
> ></voe>
> >
> Good idea but wouldn't creosote perish internal rubbers/seals seeing as
> it's a solvent based substance, Unlike using normal garden water based
> pesticides IYSWIM.
The instructions for mine say it's suitable, but as with anything else
you should clean it out immediately after use. If you don't, it won't work
next time you need it - a bit like a paint brush only more expensive. ;-)
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Dave Plowman <dave....@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
> The instructions for mine say it's suitable, but as with anything else
>you should clean it out immediately after use. If you don't, it won't work
>next time you need it - a bit like a paint brush only more expensive. ;-)
Cleaning is very important of course, I've just spent over an hour
meticulously cleaning three paint brushes after painting my stairs but
they are Hamilton brushes and i've had them for years.
I wouldn't even consider painting garden fences with them, besides they
are collectively more expensive than the Earlex spray gun. 8-)
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sweller <n...@mztech.fsnet.co.uk> wrote:
>They're cheap enough to be practically disposable anyway.
>
I might try the garden pump sprayer although it's only a fiver less than
the Earlex and i can use that for other materials too. ;-)
Dave Plowman
<st...@painting-pointers.co.uk> wrote:
> Cleaning is very important of course, I've just spent over an hour
> meticulously cleaning three paint brushes after painting my stairs but
> they are Hamilton brushes and i've had them for years.
Yes - good paint brushes are one of the few tools that improve with use.
> I wouldn't even consider painting garden fences with them, besides they
> are collectively more expensive than the Earlex spray gun. 8-)
Just another thought on that - I'd check the flow at full belt, and how
much 'paint' it holds. If you're spraying large areas you'll need one that
puts out a reasonable amount, and preferably one which can lift straight
from the tin rather than using its own pot.
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Dave Plowman <dave....@argonet.co.uk> wrote:
>Yes - good paint brushes are one of the few tools that improve with use.
They do indeed!.
>Just another thought on that - I'd check the flow at full belt, and how
>much 'paint' it holds. If you're spraying large areas you'll need one that
>puts out a reasonable amount, and preferably one which can lift straight
>from the tin rather than using its own pot.
>
Good idea especially for use on large areas.
I'll look for a higher spec model and the suction tube.