Helpfull website

[Darren Bull]

Hello all, check out www.idealcaravan4u.co.uk its an idea i had had for a
while, giving it a go.

[Richard Cole]

Darren

It seems to be all Flash. Is there a non-flash version?

Richard
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...and so, as the twin buttocks of time struggle onto the photocopier
of eternity, and the tipsy secretary of fate fends off the managing
director of destiny... - Humphrey Lyttelton closing comment in I'm
sorry I haven't a clue.

[Dave in Oz]

All Flash. Do you have a real website?

Millions block Flash and don't bother with Flash websites.

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[Darren Bull]

I didn't know that! I am using flash because it is quick and easy to set up.
I wanted to find out if the concept would work before spending serious
money.
Not quite ready to do that yet.
I need some advice on the best way to go about it. I do think a site like
this is needed.
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[David Klyne]

"Dave in Oz" <somewh...@australia.com.au> wrote in message
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> All Flash. Do you have a real website?
>
> Millions block Flash and don't bother with Flash websites.

If we did that it would mean you could hardly ever get of to a French
campsite website becuase the majority now are Flash.

David

[Gary]

The site works fine here. The flash aspect doesn't get in the way, but
then I have fast access. Flash sites should work betteer as they tend
to be smaller files.

>Millions block Flash and don't bother with Flash websites.

I'm not sure this is true...

[hugh]

In message <Rfadnf1psskvhIPW...@bt.com>, Darren Bull
<dar...@atlanticcaravans.co.uk> writes

>Hello all, check out www.idealcaravan4u.co.uk its an idea i had had for a
>while, giving it a go.
>
>

Yes I think it is, Haven't been through everything in detail but what I
have read is good basic information all in one place.
--
hugh
It may be more complicated but is it better?

[Richard Cole]

Darren

I did enable Flash for the front page, as their was no other way to see it,
but Flash is nasty and Adobe leaves trail cookies on the visitors computer
that can see just where the visitor goes (See
http://www.schneier.com/blog/archives/2009/08/flash_cookies.html).
They can be turned off but that involves going to the Adobe site (see
http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager07.html)
and turning them off there, not in your browser.

If you think that a Flash site is quicker and easier to set up then a
simple HTML site, then I suggest that you try one or other of the free
WYSISWG HTML development tools (try SourceForge) or use perhaps Easyspace,
where your site is hosted provide free tools, I know my host One & One do,
although I use Dreamweaver for most of my sites and a VB program I
developed for one of the domains.

Other problems with using Flash are:
Search engines cannot easily read them and the site will be ranked down, so
new visitors will not be able to find you.
You will not be able to insert Adverts into the pages to help pay for the
site running costs.
As has already been pointed out, not everyone is happy to let Flash run on
their computers, from unknown sites.

Richard
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http://www.caravanningnow.co.uk
An Igor soon learned the secret way out of the any castle and where to
stash an overnight bag. In the words on one of the founding Igors: 'We
belong dead? Ecthcuthe me? Where doeth it thay "we"?' - The Thief of
Time by Terry Pratchett.

[Darren Bull]

Thanks for your comments, I will look into using HTML, what did put me off
was that when I produced caravanfaultfinder it took me ages to learn how to
build it and I have forgotten it all. Off to search for web building
tools.....

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[Darren Bull]

Thanks Richard I will put a link to you on the site. I will look into HTML.
Regards
Darren
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[trefor]

Darren
I found your site useful, and it loaded fast enough for me. My connection is
2.5mb/s.

I agree with what others are saying about Flash, and I rarely use it

I have used Microsoft Frontpage for may years to build websites, and it is
reasonably intuitive to use. There are plenty of tutorial etc available on
the web.

Although I use Adobe Dreamweaver now, Microsoft's replacement for Frontpage
is MS SharePoint designer 2007, and is available free from MS, about 300mb
download.

HTH

Trefor

[Dougal]

300mb - it can't be a Microsoft product!

[Geoff Lane]

"Darren Bull" <dar...@atlanticcaravans.co.uk> wrote in

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> Hello all, check out www.idealcaravan4u.co.uk its an idea i had had
> for a while, giving it a go.

Abject apologies, Darren. If you remember, we talked about collaborating on
this some time ago. Unfortunately, I then got sidetracked with my current
contract. I'm still interested in developing this idea with you to create a
database of caravans from which the user could choose and with clickable
links for each item to explain the choices and the situations where one
might be better than another. As discussed, we could then embed this in
each of our websites.

I'll understand if you're tired of waiting - but I should have some time in
the New Year to spend on this if you're still interested.

ATB,

Geoff

[Richard Cole]

To Darren

As your hosting site is running Linux (see
http://uptime.netcraft.com/up/graph?site=www.idealcaravan4u.co.uk), you may
not be able to get a MS tool built HTML page to run on it, so check before
you commit to the download.

Richard
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http://www.caravanningnow.co.uk
If I had known my grandchildren would be so much fun I would have had
them first!