Looking for a camping safe
James Harris
I'm thinking of a container which emits a loud alarm if moved or
tampered with in any way. This could be useful but I cannot find
anyone who sells such a thing. It should be very lightweight and
depend on the audible alarm for security.
It's as something in which to store camera, camcorder and the like
while away from the tent. The tent will be in a populated area so an
audible alarm should be a suitable deterrent.
Failing that is there another option? If all else fails I'll just have
to carry valuables in a rucsac but it would be handy not to have to
keep them with me all the time.
James
Danny Colyer
> I'm thinking of a container which emits a loud alarm if moved or
> tampered with in any way. This could be useful but I cannot find
> anyone who sells such a thing. It should be very lightweight and
> depend on the audible alarm for security.
>
> It's as something in which to store camera, camcorder and the like
> while away from the tent. The tent will be in a populated area so an
> audible alarm should be a suitable deterrent.
I'd have thought an audible alarm would be an incentive for people to go
rummaging in your tent to find what's making the bloody noise and
destroy it.
I can also imagine you tripping over it in the middle of the night and
making yourself *very* unpopular.
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Tom Biasi
"James Harris" <james.h...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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How far is your vehicle from your tent?
Tom
ShadowTek
> Failing that is there another option?
Camoflage?
A person isn't likely to steal something that they don't even know is
there.
James Harris
> On 08/07/2009 21:54, James Harris wrote:
>
> > I'm thinking of a container which emits a loud alarm if moved or
> > tampered with in any way. This could be useful but I cannot find
> > anyone who sells such a thing. It should be very lightweight and
> > depend on the audible alarm for security.
>
> > It's as something in which to store camera, camcorder and the like
> > while away from the tent. The tent will be in a populated area so an
> > audible alarm should be a suitable deterrent.
>
> I'd have thought an audible alarm would be an incentive for people to go
> rummaging in your tent to find what's making the bloody noise and
> destroy it.
>
> I can also imagine you tripping over it in the middle of the night and
> making yourself *very* unpopular.
Not sure if you are being ironic. The unit wouldn't be armed if the
owner were in the tent and it wouldn't make a noise unless moved.
James
James Harris
> "James Harris" <james.harri...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> How far is your vehicle from your tent?
On the intended trip about 600 miles.
James
Andy R
"James Harris" <james.h...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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everybody else off. Maybe you could make something before you go, ie buy a
safe like this
http://cpc.farnell.com/defender-security/df00001/safe-key-lock-200x200x150mm/dp/SR06728,
drill a hole through the back of it and twist something like this through it
http://sportsequip.co.uk/acatalog/info_AN400.html. With the safe door open
you can screw the ground anchor in then when the door's shut the anchor
can't be unscrewed because the safe just spins on it and without serious
digging it wont come out. Not many opportunist thieves will want to spend a
lot of time in your tent digging even if they've got a spade with them.
Rgds
Andy R
KGB
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>"James Harris" <james.h...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>> Does anyone know of a safe that can be used while camping?
>>
>> I'm thinking of a container which emits a loud alarm if moved or
>> tampered with in any way. This could be useful but I cannot find
>> anyone who sells such a thing. It should be very lightweight and
>> depend on the audible alarm for security.
>>
>> It's as something in which to store camera, camcorder and the like
>> while away from the tent. The tent will be in a populated area so an
>> audible alarm should be a suitable deterrent.
>>
>> Failing that is there another option? If all else fails I'll just have
>> to carry valuables in a rucsac but it would be handy not to have to
>> keep them with me all the time.
Hi
I once saw something advertised for use on a beach when you wanted to
swim. It was a strong bag with 2 compartments. You filled the bottom
compartment with sand and locked it; you then put your valuables in
the top compartment and locked that. Anybody trying to steal the bag
would find it too heavy to lift because of the weight of the sand.
Soil or stones would obviously work just as well. When you wanted to
leave, you just unlocked the bottom and emptied the sand out.
I haven't a clue who made them - or even whether they are still
available - but a search on Google may turn something up; or something
similar would be fairly simple to make.
Otherwise have you tried "PacSafe". They have all sorts of security
products.
Regards
KGB
Tom Biasi
>
>> How far is your vehicle from your tent?
>
> On the intended trip about 600 miles.
>
> James
Pretty long hike. Maybe you could get a bicycle lock and lock a container in
a tree.
Tom
Phil Cook
>Does anyone know of a safe that can be used while camping?
>
>I'm thinking of a container which emits a loud alarm if moved or
>tampered with in any way.
>It's as something in which to store camera, camcorder and the like
>while away from the tent. The tent will be in a populated area so an
>audible alarm should be a suitable deterrent.
Also a great way of really anoying people. Nobody reacts to car alarms
anymore except to wish to strangle the owner.
>Failing that is there another option? If all else fails I'll just have
>to carry valuables in a rucsac but it would be handy not to have to
>keep them with me all the time.
Keeping your valuables with you is the only way of being sure of their
location. When I am travelling the camera goes with me all the time,
besides you never know when a great photo might happen.
--
Phil Cook looking north over the park to the "Westminster Gasworks"
ShadowTek
> Also a great way of really anoying people. Nobody reacts to car alarms
> anymore except to wish to strangle the owner.
Instead of a typical siren, perhaps the alarm could be hooked up to a
loudspeaker that yelled: *Attention! Attention! Free bags of weed! I
repeat: Free bags of weed!*
That should bring some people runnin.
James D. Andrews
> Does anyone know of a safe that can be used while camping?
>
> I'm thinking of a container which emits a loud alarm if moved or
> tampered with in any way. This could be useful but I cannot find
> anyone who sells such a thing. It should be very lightweight and
> depend on the audible alarm for security.
>
> It's as something in which to store camera, camcorder and the like
> while away from the tent. The tent will be in a populated area so an
> audible alarm should be a suitable deterrent.
If you're not taking the camcorder with you, why bring it in the first
place?
As for the camera, the same applies, but if you're in the woods or doing
hikes away from camp, shouldn't you have the camera on you to snap what you
see? Just me, I guess.
Anyways, you could use a small box safe (you can get on-line or at Target or
Wally World or K-Mart)
You could use one of these small safes put in your trunk and just lay a
personal alarm on top of it, such as the AL-2 personal alarm found on this
link. The alarm should only go off if the safe is disturbed.
http://www.everysafe.com/Honeywell-Safes-2079-HNW1031.html
There's a portable safe called a Yelpie, but it's only big enough for cell
phones, wallets, etc. ( www.yelpie.com )
You can go to www.stealarmor.com but these run about $450-$500.
You might check Campmor.com They might have something. Or you could just
use a motion sensor like those available at www.absoluteautomation.com
> James
Robert Bonomi
Look at one of the dingus's that they sell for _hotel_ travelers to
hang on the room door. It screams if the door is jiggled.
Make _sure_ you turn it off when you *are* around. :)
GregS
I think this is the best idea. remember the combination and NO keys.
You could also dig a 6 foot hole and cover it up.
There are child monitors, but you would have to have good batteries.
Alarms are problematic.
greg
Tom Biasi
"Tom Biasi" <tomb...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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some crumpled toilet paper on top and nobody should touch it.
Tom
Clint Sharp
<zekf...@zekfrivolous.com> writes
>>Pretty long hike. Maybe you could get a bicycle lock and lock a container in
>>a tree.
>>Tom
>
>
>I think this is the best idea. remember the combination and NO keys.
>greg
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Martin
> "Tom Biasi" <tombi...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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> news:4a55ca1d$0$22524$607e...@cv.net...
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> > "James Harris" <james.harri...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
> >news:d5e149a8-8773-4227...@18g2000yqa.googlegroups.com...
>
> >>> How far is your vehicle from your tent?
>
> >> On the intended trip about 600 miles.
>
> >> James
>
> > Pretty long hike. Maybe you could get a bicycle lock and lock a container
> > in a tree.
> > Tom
>
> Or put your stuff in a portable potty and leave it next to your tent. Put
> some crumpled toilet paper on top and nobody should touch it.
>
> Tom
And prey no-one has a pee or crap on it!
Martin.
GregS
If you loose the key then what?
Let me know quickly so i too can crack those locks.
greg
Clint Sharp
<zekf...@zekfrivolous.com> writes
unlucky to lose both at the same time.
>
>greg
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Doki
"Tom Biasi" <tomb...@optonline.net> wrote in message
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>
Of course, that then brings up the question as to whether anyone would give
something a second glance if it weren't locked to a tree. Personally, I'd
rather do a good job of hiding something than locking it up conspicuously -
most people will simply steal whatever strongbox you have and set about it
at their leisure.
Tom Biasi
"Doki" <mrd...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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Agreed, but the OP asked about a safe.
Tom
Doki
"GregS" <zekf...@zekfrivolous.com> wrote in message
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Ask any locksmith. The majority of locks are very simple to open, and those
that aren't are generally easily circumvented with a set of bolt cutters.
Neil
I think your solution is one of those secure steel net things that
cover your entire rucsac and then secure with a padlock preventing
anyone from gaining access to the contents. With an additional steel
cable you could attach the whole thing to a tree or steel railings.
Couple this with one of those alarmed padlocks which can be used
conventionally or with an integral alarm which emits low level warning
pips when disturbed or moved and then resets after about 20 seconds,
but sounds a loud alarm if disturbed again within the 20 second
period.
I cannot recall what the steel net things are called, unless it is a
PacSafe, or what they cost, but a local shop was selling one of the
alarmed padlocks for GBP10 a few weeks ago - wish I'd bought it
myself!
Neil
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James Harris
"KGB" also recommended a Pacsafe product. Just to follow up, I ordered
a couple of them. Only the small one arrived before my holiday. It
looks like it will do the job. I'll have to get the padlock another
time.
James