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nghthwk

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Aug 18, 2000, 10:43:36 PM8/18/00
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Hi I tried this on the other bird NG and only got one fabulous book, can you
help?
I would like to hear which non-field guide bird or natural history books
'real birders' recommend. Coffee table books, children's books etc.
It's for my web site, I would like to carry books that are worth ordering.
An experienced opinion is a valuable opinion.
My recommendation for you: Bird Brains;the intelligence of Crows Ravens,
Magpies and Jays by Candace Savage now in paperback. The most beautiful
photography I've ever seen. No, I'm not related, it's just a really
wonderful book.

Thanks, Tana

Ps, have YOU written a book that would fit the bill?


Martin Finnigan

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Aug 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/21/00
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My favourite is a book of drawings and paintings by Edward Wilson when he
accompanied Scott on his trips to Antarctica.
I tihnk its just called Birds of the Antarctic, but I'll check.
The paintings of emperor penguin chicks frozen in still-life on the pack ice
take some beating.

I bought it in a second hand shop years ago and have never seen it new so
unfortunately I suppose its out of print long ago which I don't suppose
helps you much.

Regards

Martin

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Nick

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-On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 02:43:36 GMT, it was observed that "nghthwk" <bird...@sympatico.ca> said in message <svmn5.164751$Gh.28...@news20.bellglobal.com>:

" I would like to hear which non-field guide bird or natural history books
" 'real birders' recommend. Coffee table books, children's books etc.

You may want to have a look at http://www.amazon.co.uk to see what's said
about "Birds, an Artist's View" ISBN 1855853302
and
Penguins ISBN 3822865192

I don't have them myself, - haven't got the coffee table room ! - but have
seen them and they are quite fantastic :)
--
Nick

Sorry folks, I'm being spammed at yahoo :-(
Anyone should be able to work out where to reply too !

nrw7
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Also at www.nrw.clara.co.uk

Steve Foster

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Aug 21, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/21/00
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<snip>

| I would like to hear which non-field guide bird or natural history books
| 'real birders' recommend.

<snip>

| Thanks, Tana
|
| Ps, have YOU written a book that would fit the bill?

I heartily recommend a signed copy of 'The State of the Nation's Birds' by a
Mr Chris Mead. Does anyone agree with me?

Steve Foster

nghthwk

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Aug 21, 2000, 9:11:19 PM8/21/00
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Thanks Martin, the catalogue I use has been bringing in books that were
previously out of print but sadly this one's not there. I'll ask them about
it though, you never know.

Tana


Martin Finnigan <mar...@finnigan.freeserve.co.uk> wrote in message
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> My favourite is a book of drawings and paintings by Edward Wilson when he
> accompanied Scott on his trips to Antarctica.
> I tihnk its just called Birds of the Antarctic, but I'll check.
> The paintings of emperor penguin chicks frozen in still-life on the pack
ice
> take some beating.
>
> I bought it in a second hand shop years ago and have never seen it new so
> unfortunately I suppose its out of print long ago which I don't suppose
> helps you much.
>
> Regards
>
> Martin
>

> "nghthwk" <bird...@sympatico.ca> wrote in message
> news:svmn5.164751$Gh.28...@news20.bellglobal.com...

nghthwk

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Aug 21, 2000, 9:20:16 PM8/21/00
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Nick <nr...@go.away.yahoo.com.invalid> wrote in message
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> -On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 02:43:36 GMT, it was observed that "nghthwk"
<bird...@sympatico.ca> said in message
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>
> " I would like to hear which non-field guide bird or natural history
books
> " 'real birders' recommend. Coffee table books, children's books etc.
>
> You may want to have a look at http://www.amazon.co.uk to see what's said
> about "Birds, an Artist's View" ISBN 1855853302
> and
> Penguins ISBN 3822865192
>
> I don't have them myself, - haven't got the coffee table room ! - but have
> seen them and they are quite fantastic :)
> --
> Nick

Thanks Nick,
Oops. Tea table in the parlour? :-) What would be the appropriate name for
big, glossy, mostly artistic books?
Found the penguin book but no luck with the first one. Same author, Frans
Lanting?
Tana


mark_et...@my-deja.com

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Aug 22, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/22/00
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Steve Foster wrote:

> I heartily recommend a signed copy of 'The State of the Nation's
Birds' by a
> Mr Chris Mead. Does anyone agree with me?
>

Apart from the occasional typos in mine (which proves it was written by
Chris :-)) and the fact that I have got one of the rarer unsigned
copies, yes!

A cracking good read. Thanks, Chris.

Mark


Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/
Before you buy.

nghthwk

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Aug 22, 2000, 9:24:07 PM8/22/00
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<mark_et...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> Steve Foster wrote:
>
> > I heartily recommend a signed copy of 'The State of the Nation's
> Birds' by a
> > Mr Chris Mead. Does anyone agree with me?
> >
> Apart from the occasional typos in mine (which proves it was written by
> Chris :-)) and the fact that I have got one of the rarer unsigned
> copies, yes!
>
> A cracking good read. Thanks, Chris.
>
> Mark

This was originally for suggestions for my customers but now I have to have
one for myself. Where can I buy one?
Anywhere close to Lyme Regis?
Tana


Chris Mead

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Aug 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/23/00
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The message <XIFo5.169113$1h3.3...@news20.bellglobal.com>
from "nghthwk" <bird...@sympatico.ca> contains these words:

> This was originally for suggestions for my customers but now I have to have
> one for myself. Where can I buy one?
> Anywhere close to Lyme Regis?
> Tana


Easiest way is to go to

www//birdcare.com/birdon/

have a look at the species texts and then order on line or download
the form and send in an order.

Nice of you to ask!

--
Chris Mead
Hilborough, Norfolk
chris...@zetnet.co.uk

Steve Foster

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Aug 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/23/00
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"Chris Mead" <chris...@zetnet.co.uk> wrote in message
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| The message <XIFo5.169113$1h3.3...@news20.bellglobal.com>
| from "nghthwk" <bird...@sympatico.ca> contains these words:
|
| > This was originally for suggestions for my customers but now I have to
have
| > one for myself. Where can I buy one?
| > Anywhere close to Lyme Regis?
| > Tana
|
|
| Easiest way is to go to
|
| www//birdcare.com/birdon/
|
| have a look at the species texts and then order on line or download
| the form and send in an order.
|
| Nice of you to ask!
|
|
|
| --
| Chris Mead
| Hilborough, Norfolk
| chris...@zetnet.co.uk

That'll be a fiver back from the cost of your book at Rutland last Saturday
please.

Steve Foster - Stanwick, Northants

ps. No I'm not Scottish.

colin....@care4free.net

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Aug 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/23/00
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In article <svmn5.164751$Gh.28...@news20.bellglobal.com>,

"nghthwk" <bird...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> I would like to hear which non-field guide bird or natural history
books
> 'real birders' recommend. Coffee table books, children's books etc.
> It's for my web site, I would like to carry books that are worth
ordering.

I would go for a Peter Scott myself. Not only do his books convey the
romance and atmosphere of birds (especially wildfowl), but his
paintings also compliment the field guides, in that they show the birds
as you really see them. I think this is sometimes lost in field guides
(excellent though many are)which need to show every minute detail for
identification.

So I would go for one of his last compilations 'Images of a lifetime'
to get the paintings, and 'Lucky the Man' for brief selection of his
writtings. The latter especially for his description of discovering
Lesser White-fronted Geese at Slimbridge in the late 1940's. I often
read just that chapter to remind myself why I enjoy birding,

Best wishes

Colin

Martin Sage

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Aug 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/23/00
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>I would go for a Peter Scott myself. Not only do his books convey the
>romance and atmosphere of birds (especially wildfowl), but his
>paintings also compliment the field guides, in that they show the birds
>as you really see them. I think this is sometimes lost in field guides
>(excellent though many are)which need to show every minute detail for
>identification.
>
>So I would go for one of his last compilations 'Images of a lifetime'
>to get the paintings, and 'Lucky the Man' for brief selection of his
>writtings. The latter especially for his description of discovering
>Lesser White-fronted Geese at Slimbridge in the late 1940's. I often
>read just that chapter to remind myself why I enjoy birding,

My interest in birds is partly due to Peter Scott as I lived near enough
to cycle to Slimbridge as a boy and first visited the Trust in about
1952. His autobiography is also a good read.
--
Martin Sage
www.sagefarm.demon.co.uk

Chris Mead

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Aug 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/23/00
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The message <w5fU6HAIW$o5E...@sagefarm.demon.co.uk>
from Martin Sage <Mar...@sagefarm.demon.co.uk> contains these words:

> >I would go for a Peter Scott myself.

> My interest in birds is partly due to Peter Scott as I lived near enough


> to cycle to Slimbridge as a boy and first visited the Trust in about
> 1952. His autobiography is also a good read.
> --
> Martin Sage
> www.sagefarm.demon.co.uk

For professional book I would go for 'A Thousand Geese' Peter Scott
and James Fisher and lots of Pink-feet in Iceland. Fantastic story
and great book - and I eventually met all of them.

For an amateur does anyone remember Ware's 'Wing to Wing' and RAF
man's account of birds found whilst serving in the War.

Arty farty almost impossible but how about the 'Bird Island, Pictures
from a Shoal of Sand' by Lars Johnsson - fabulous!

Incidentally there are two Wilson (of the Antarctic) books - one is
ordinary size and (I think) pre-war - I do not have time to find it
as it is in the other library (I think - was a very big bath room)
and the one published about 15 or 20 years ago is big format.

Colin Davies

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Aug 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/23/00
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.> So I would go for one of his last compilations 'Images of a lifetime'


> to get the paintings, and 'Lucky the Man' for brief selection of his
> writtings. The latter especially for his description of discovering
> Lesser White-fronted Geese at Slimbridge in the late 1940's. I often
> read just that chapter to remind myself why I enjoy birding,
>

That should be 'The Art of Peter Scott - Images from a Lifetime' (ISBN
1-85619-100-1)
and 'Happy the Man' (not sure about the ISBN).

Sorry for any confusion,

Colin

--
The St. Helens Wildlife Recording Group web site is at
http://www.wildlife.care4free.net


Malcolm

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Aug 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/23/00
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In article <200008231...@zetnet.co.uk>, Chris Mead
<chris...@zetnet.co.uk> writes

>The message <w5fU6HAIW$o5E...@sagefarm.demon.co.uk>
> from Martin Sage <Mar...@sagefarm.demon.co.uk> contains these words:
>
>> >I would go for a Peter Scott myself.
>
>> My interest in birds is partly due to Peter Scott as I lived near enough
>> to cycle to Slimbridge as a boy and first visited the Trust in about
>> 1952. His autobiography is also a good read.
>> --
>> Martin Sage
>> www.sagefarm.demon.co.uk
>
>For professional book I would go for 'A Thousand Geese' Peter Scott
>and James Fisher and lots of Pink-feet in Iceland. Fantastic story
>and great book - and I eventually met all of them.
>
<puzzled>
All the Pinkfeet?

>For an amateur does anyone remember Ware's 'Wing to Wing' and RAF
>man's account of birds found whilst serving in the War.
>

Yes, I still have my well-read copy.

Another I have read several times is "A Bewilderment of Birds" (1954) by
J.K.Stanford, a lot of which is about his time as a colonial officer in
Burma, where he collected birds for the BMNH in an area almost unknown
ornithologically. Also when he was one of the wardens of the first
breeding Avocets at Minsmere and Havergate, as well as a really funny
account of the 1950 International Ornithological Congress is Uppsala. He
put the Avocet story into a novel whose name evades me (declining brain
cells to blame). Indeed, I don't even know which bookcase to start
looking in :-!

--
Malcolm

Malcolm

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Aug 23, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/23/00
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In article <8o1bje$dee$1...@lure.pipex.net>, Colin Davies
<Colin....@care4free.net> writes

>
>
>.> So I would go for one of his last compilations 'Images of a lifetime'
>> to get the paintings, and 'Lucky the Man' for brief selection of his
>> writtings. The latter especially for his description of discovering
>> Lesser White-fronted Geese at Slimbridge in the late 1940's. I often
>> read just that chapter to remind myself why I enjoy birding,
>>
>
>That should be 'The Art of Peter Scott - Images from a Lifetime' (ISBN
>1-85619-100-1)
>and 'Happy the Man' (not sure about the ISBN).
>
>Sorry for any confusion,
>
You might be thinking of Philippa Scott's autobiography 'Lucky Me'.

--
Malcolm

colin...@my-deja.com

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Aug 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/24/00
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> >That should be 'The Art of Peter Scott - Images from a Lifetime'
(ISBN
> >1-85619-100-1)
> >and 'Happy the Man' (not sure about the ISBN).
> >
> >Sorry for any confusion,
> >
> You might be thinking of Philippa Scott's autobiography 'Lucky Me'.
>

Yes, I think that is probably correct,

Nick

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-On Tue, 22 Aug 2000 01:20:16 GMT, it was observed that "nghthwk" <bird...@sympatico.ca> said in message <kzko5.174363$Gh.31...@news20.bellglobal.com>:

" ~~no luck with the first one. Same author, Frans Lanting?

Sorry, that's the one thing I don't know/remember :( I just took note of the
ISBN, normally works ?!

Stephen Poley

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Aug 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/24/00
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On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 02:43:36 GMT, "nghthwk" <bird...@sympatico.ca> wrote:

>I would like to hear which non-field guide bird or natural history books
>'real birders' recommend. Coffee table books, children's books etc.
>It's for my web site, I would like to carry books that are worth ordering.
>An experienced opinion is a valuable opinion.

It's rather more meat than coffee-table, but I've just finished reading
Jonathan Weiner's book "The Beak of the Finch", which I found fascinating.
It's about what we have recently learned about evolution, in particular
about Darwin's finches on the Galapagos islands. There's a lot in it, but
it's still very readable. The main theme is that evolution can operate a
lot more quickly than most people thought.

Stephen Poley
Barendrecht, Holland

george...@my-deja.com

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Aug 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/24/00
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In article <svmn5.164751$Gh.28...@news20.bellglobal.com>,
"nghthwk" <bird...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
> Hi I tried this on the other bird NG and only got one fabulous book,
can you
> help?
> I would like to hear which non-field guide bird or natural history
books
> 'real birders' recommend.

Bill Oddie's Gripping Yarns, is a very good book that is, well, Bill
Oddie at his best.

The Bird Table Book by Tony Soper and Robert Gillmor (the illustrator)
is also good for more casual reading.

Phil

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Aug 24, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/24/00
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In article <39a5709...@news.xs4all.nl>, Stephen Poley
<sbp...@xs4all.nl> writes

>It's rather more meat than coffee-table, but I've just finished reading
>Jonathan Weiner's book "The Beak of the Finch", which I found fascinating.
>It's about what we have recently learned about evolution, in particular
>about Darwin's finches on the Galapagos islands. There's a lot in it, but
>it's still very readable. The main theme is that evolution can operate a
>lot more quickly than most people thought.
That's good to hear. Now, I just need enough time to read the copy I've
got sitting beside me... Oh well, I suppose I can always look at the
pictures!
--
Phil

nghthwk

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Aug 25, 2000, 3:00:00 AM8/25/00
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Stephen Poley <sbp...@xs4all.nl> wrote in message
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> On Sat, 19 Aug 2000 02:43:36 GMT, "nghthwk" <bird...@sympatico.ca> wrote:
>
> >I would like to hear which non-field guide bird or natural history books
> >'real birders' recommend. Coffee table books, children's books etc.
> >It's for my web site, I would like to carry books that are worth
ordering.
> >An experienced opinion is a valuable opinion.
>
> It's rather more meat than coffee-table, but I've just finished reading
> Jonathan Weiner's book "The Beak of the Finch", which I found fascinating.
> It's about what we have recently learned about evolution, in particular
> about Darwin's finches on the Galapagos islands. There's a lot in it, but
> it's still very readable. The main theme is that evolution can operate a
> lot more quickly than most people thought.
>
> Stephen Poley
> Barendrecht, Holland

An amazing read.! It really makes you more observant.
Tana

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