Cold water marine tanks
Davy
Hiya,
Anyone out there keep cold water marine ie stuff native to the UK ??
if there is.. What is the best method for sticking small kelp holdfasts
to the tank / rocks???
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Alan
...and if I've got the rest of this wrong - please put me right and tell me
what method you (anyone) use to keep the native UK marine species.
I can't back up any of the info. here because I can't remember the source,
and I don't want to discourage you because if it's possible, (ever since lob
line fishing at the docks as a lit' l'un) I'm also interested in keeping UK
marine species.
...I believe that I've heard it's too difficult to keep the water cold
enough (4 degrees C?), and a local marine aquarium (now closed down) used a
bore hole from the estuary to supply or control the water through its tanks.
It seems a refrigeration unit is required?
-Alan
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Roger Sleet
> ...and if I've got the rest of this wrong - please put me right and
> tell me
> what method you (anyone) use to keep the native UK marine species.
No problems. Just set up like any marine tank without heating and you can
keep most shore species. If you want to know what sort of heat they can
stand pick the hottest day of summer find a small pool with some life in
it fairly high on the shore and stick a thermometer in. If you don't have
a thermometer stick your hand in - like tepid bath water. I've known as
high as 40C and the fish (Shanny) still swimming.
The water temperature in the sea off the UK south coast can get as high as
20C anyway.
> ...I believe that I've heard it's too difficult to keep the water cold
> enough (4 degrees C?)
Only if you want to keep deep water North Sea fish. If you want a tank of
Pollack and Cod like our Undersea World then you do need to keep it cold.
If you stick to Shore Species and deeper water species at the northern end
of the range then you don't need special cooling.
Roger Sleet
Roger Sleet
(Davy) wrote:
> Anyone out there keep cold water marine ie stuff native to the UK ??
I used to.
>
> if there is.. What is the best method for sticking small kelp holdfasts
> to the tank / rocks???
KELP! I hope you've got a /big/ tank - something like 6'*3'*3' would hold
1 plant, and you would need a battery of very intense lighting to keep it
going. Most UK species grow 8' - 10' - are you sure you don't want Wrack?
I have never managed to keep any brown seaweed in the aquarium. I have
had some success with green (Sea Lettuce) and quite a lot with the red
coralline seaweeds. Lighting does need to be quite intense.
Roger Sleet
Bill Payer
our local Cornish beach and found a hermit crab and wondered about the probs
of keeping some in a tank. I can't really see any probs with it myself.
I think that I might have a go.
Bill
Davy
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Hiya,
>Sorry - I'm no good on the kelp stuff...
>
>...and if I've got the rest of this wrong - please put me right and tell me
>what method you (anyone) use to keep the native UK marine species.
I've set up a standard Juwel Trigon (350L) tank, the original water was
a mix of made up and stuff I collected from a pure source (Sound of
Mull).
I've also got fine silica sand from a local beach and the rocks from the
same area. The tank is running on the standard Juwel filter, with no
skimmer and I'm using a beer cooler to keep the water around 12 degrees.
>I can't back up any of the info. here because I can't remember the source,
>and I don't want to discourage you because if it's possible, (ever since lob
>line fishing at the docks as a lit' l'un) I'm also interested in keeping UK
>marine species.
I'd recommend it to anyone.
>...I believe that I've heard it's too difficult to keep the water cold
>enough (4 degrees C?), and a local marine aquarium (now closed down) used a
>bore hole from the estuary to supply or control the water through its tanks.
>It seems a refrigeration unit is required?
As I have said I'm using a beer cooler on my tank, but that's only
because of some of the stuff I have in it. I've got the cooler set up on
a timer and it's running for about 8 hrs a day at the moment.
If you stick to stuff from the shore you will get away with out a
cooler no problem.
Davy
<rsl...@cafonline.org> writes
>KELP! I hope you've got a /big/ tank - something like 6'*3'*3' would hold
>1 plant, and you would need a battery of very intense lighting to keep it
>going. Most UK species grow 8' - 10' - are you sure you don't want Wrack?
Nope it's kelp I'm talking about, i can get plenty of small stuff from
one of the areas I go to, Incidentally some of it has been in the pools
for years and has yet to grow more than 10" long. It would seem that it
can only grow to the size of it's environment.
>I have never managed to keep any brown seaweed in the aquarium. I have
>had some success with green (Sea Lettuce) and quite a lot with the red
>coralline seaweeds. Lighting does need to be quite intense.
So far I have only managed to keep one piece of kelp alive, now going on
three weeks. I'm having good success with the "Red rags" (dilsea
carnosa), Furcellaria lumbricalis, Apoglossum ruscifolium and a few of
the Coraline species.
Any of the species that are normal found above the low tide mark tend
not to last long when submerged 24/7
Davy
<Bill...@BTInternet.com> writes
Hiya,
>I've been wondering about keeping a cold water marine tank...I was down on
>our local Cornish beach and found a hermit crab and wondered about the probs
>of keeping some in a tank. I can't really see any probs with it myself.
There aint really any problems, once the tank is mature, providing you
watch what you put in it :-)
Blennies (Shannies) are brilliant to watch but are very dominant over
everything else, Butterfish tend to hide all the time.
Edible crabs and lobsters are better than Oscars for their demolition
work :-(
hermits are brilliant, so long as you keep the small ones.
Shore crabs are ok again so long as it is only small ones,
Starfish and sea urchins can do quite a bit of damage.. Anything
remotely edible is eaten.
The great thing about it is you can catch something, put it in the tank
.. if you don't like it take it back.. And it don't cost anything :-)
If you want I'll do a list of everything I'm keeping at the moment to
give you an idea of what to try.
Oh and don't be put off thinking it will be drab.. I've got more colour
and activity in my tank than most tropical tanks :-)
Marksfish
Society in my clubs link pages. If you Email them (assuming the link is
still current) they should be able to point you in the right direction.
Regards
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Marksfish
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Davy
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Hiya,
>http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/BMLSS/homepage.html
Thanks for the link, I'm already on the "Wet Thumb" mailing list but to
put it politely there are too many egos and not enough info on it. :-(
lesstif
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Davy
lesstif <les...@hotmail.com> writes
Hiya,
>I think we need more web pages on this..... breeding etc
I'm going to set up a section on Cold water marine on my own web site as
soon a s I get the chance.