Peter Campbell Smith wrote: >... as is normal usage in the USA. When I first moved there I was a bit >nonplussed by signs that said 'No parking within 6 feet of pavement'. It >seemed rather dangerous to park in the middle of the road.
>Then there is 'Do not pass'. Like all obedient Brits I wanted to stop until >someone told me it was OK to pass now.
Which is as good an excuse as any to introduce a railway issue.
The signs on level crossings used to say "Wait while lights flash" Unfortunately, Yorkshire usage interprets this as "Wait until..."
Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK ch...@cdixon.me.uk
<i...@bluebadge.demon.co.uk> wrote: >Maybe not a travelator but I thought at the time that it would be a >route the would benefit from a wide, pleasant, smooth and well-marked >walking route, something which would be relatively inexpensive but very >beneficial.)
I would agree. Taxis and buses and tube are not simple alternatives as they involve considerable diversions from the straight line route.
Travelators would be very useful at either end to deliver passengers to and from the walkway!
> However I'm not sure that there's really a great deal of opportunity for > reallocating much of the road's carriageway space over to being part of a > wider pavement - whilst that's certainly been TfL's modus operandi in such > improvement schemes elsewhere, the problem is Euston Rd forms part of the > inner-ring road and I'm not sure it could just lose a lane without there > being significant adverse consequences - maybe something more imaginative > could be done here though, possibly resulting in a little widening. All that > said, I don't think the pavement space that exists at present is *that* > narrow, even with the trees. I'll go and walk along it again soon and try > and pay attention.
why not widening the footway on one side and narrowing on the other one?
>> A highway engineer would cringe at the use of 'pavement' in this >> thread to describe the footway alongside a carriageway.
>> 'Pavement' is the wearing course of a road surface rather than the >> footway alongside it.
>... as is normal usage in the USA. When I first moved there I was a bit >nonplussed by signs that said 'No parking within 6 feet of pavement'. It >seemed rather dangerous to park in the middle of the road.
In the immortal words of Alvyn Singer, (Woody Allen's character in "Annie Hall"), spoken to Annie (Diane Keaton's character) after her pretty appalling effort at parking her VW Cabriolet:
"Don't worry, we can walk to the kerb from here."
[Pedants will no doubt want to correct the spelling to "curb".]
>On Fri, 11 Feb 2011 10:42:17 +0000, Michael Bell wrote >> In message <0001HW.C97ABC360947D529F0407...@news.eclipse.co.uk> >> Stimpy <stimpy199...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:00:52 +0000, Mizter T wrote
>>>>> All it really needs is some effort by the local council (or whoever) >>>>> to provide a usable footway along the Euston Road.
>>>> I've said as much before - if there was a genuinely high-quality pavement >>>> upgrade and general 'public realm' improvements along this stretch of >>>> Euston >>>> Road, I think it could make a considerable difference.
>>> A highway engineer would cringe at the use of 'pavement' in this thread to >>> describe the footway alongside a carriageway.
>>> 'Pavement' is the wearing course of a road surface rather than the footway >>> alongside it.
>> That is the American use of the word "pavement". You are very likely >> to be misunderstood if you use the word that way in this country.
>Not at all, it's the usage within the Highways Engineering industry >worldwide.
Snot our fault if they prefer to talk 'Merkan instead of English.
>In article <e4a7d4a351.michaelb...@michael.beaverbell.co.uk>, > Michael Bell <mich...@beaverbell.co.uk> wrote:
>> In message <0001HW.C97ABC360947D529F0407...@news.eclipse.co.uk> >> Stimpy <stimpy199...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>> > On Thu, 10 Feb 2011 15:00:52 +0000, Mizter T wrote
>> >>> All it really needs is some effort by the local council (or whoever) >> >>> to provide a usable footway along the Euston Road.
>> >> I've said as much before - if there was a genuinely high-quality pavement >> >> upgrade and general 'public realm' improvements along this stretch of >> >> Euston >> >> Road, I think it could make a considerable difference.
>> > A highway engineer would cringe at the use of 'pavement' in this thread to >> > describe the footway alongside a carriageway.
>> > 'Pavement' is the wearing course of a road surface rather than the footway >> > alongside it.
>> That is the American use of the word "pavement". You are very likely >> to be misunderstood if you use the word that way in this country.
>Though I think legal and technical descriptions would use the word >"footway" rather than pavement for what N.Americans would call the >sidewalk.
The legal and techical descriptions deal with different contexts so the same structure might legally be a footway at one point but e.g. a cycleway at another with pedestrian use of both.
<nospa...@myonline.be> wrote: >Good day/evening/night to everybody, >> "Ross" <ros...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> However I'm not sure that there's really a great deal of opportunity for >> reallocating much of the road's carriageway space over to being part of a >> wider pavement - whilst that's certainly been TfL's modus operandi in such >> improvement schemes elsewhere, the problem is Euston Rd forms part of the >> inner-ring road and I'm not sure it could just lose a lane without there >> being significant adverse consequences - maybe something more imaginative >> could be done here though, possibly resulting in a little widening. All that >> said, I don't think the pavement space that exists at present is *that* >> narrow, even with the trees. I'll go and walk along it again soon and try >> and pay attention.
>why not widening the footway on one side and narrowing on the other >one?
That involves worrying about what is or is not underneath the old and new bits of footway/carriageway. There is often very little in the way of foundation under a footway but quite a bit of miscellaneous plumbing near the surface so a lot of digging is involved on at least one side.
> In message <3h9e28-5ju....@silverstone.rilynn.me.uk>, Roger Lynn > <use...@rilynn.me.uk> writes > >On 08/02/11 09:35, m1ss_wh1te wrote: > >> Much like the passenger conveyor between New Street and its, much > >> nicer, neighbour Moor Street.
> >It's a bit grim under the shopping centre though. Given how busy this > >route is, you would have thought they could have tarted it up a bit (the > >removal of the fencing through there has helped, but it's still not great).
> That's not the best way. Cross from Moor Street at the lights, go up > the slope, through Rotunda Square and down the slope beyond, passing the > tourist office on your rhs. The linking route is even specially marked > with a "themed fence" (by artist Anu Patel) to guide people changing > stations. However, as there's nothing anywhere to tell anybody this, > it's all rather wasted!
Under the shopping centre is the fastest, shortest and flattest route though, so I'm not likely to explore another one unless I have time to spare. I knew that it was possible to go the other way, but not that it is a marked route.
In article <hqdal6lula3csq6gnapdt21tk49lup0...@4ax.com>, Chris J Dixon <ch...@cdixon.me.uk> wrote:
> Which is as good an excuse as any to introduce a railway issue.
> The signs on level crossings used to say > "Wait while lights flash" > Unfortunately, Yorkshire usage interprets this as "Wait until..."
And in some parts of Lancashire. "Don't light the boiler while there's water in it" is alleged to have caused deaths, though in the context I heard it it referred a stationary boiler, not a railway engine.
