Yes or no?
Conor
been informed that 2m/70cm is basically now filled with the mike
keying, music playing brigade that've sodded off from CB especially in
my area.
As I'm only interested in DX'ing is this still viable?
Also a bit confused. According to a website I've been looking at,
Foundation gives me the ability to transmit on all frequencies on 10W?
That could swing it as low power Dx'ing is where I like to be. I must
be the only person on CB who DX's on legal-ish power. Never used a
linear amp for it.
--
Conor
I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
looking good either. - Scott Adams
Dave
Since you state you are only interested in DX then why worry or for
that fact even mention that 2/70 in your area is as you state" now
filled with the mike keying, music playing brigade that have sodded
off from CB"..
Yes the FL does let you transmit with 10w maximum so no confusion
there.
Yes that could possibly be construed as low power DX.
You have never used a linear amp on CB, well done keep it up, though I
doubt you will get a round of applause here for that.
Could you explain legal-ish power for the uninitiated amongst us.
Dave
RF Burns�
"Conor" <co...@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.24b7e4104...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Been on CBs for years and thinking of getting into Amateur but I've
> been informed that 2m/70cm is basically now filled with the mike
> keying, music playing brigade that've sodded off from CB especially in
> my area.
Dont know where your area is, but as a rule 2m/70cm is not filled with music
playing ect that i've noticed listening around the country, you might hear
the odd bit on the repeaters, but to be honest thats been happening as long
as the repeaters have been around.
> As I'm only interested in DX'ing is this still viable?
Depends what sort of DX your after really? If you want to talk around the
world like on CB when conditions allow, you would be better off on the HF
bands rather than 2 or 70.
> Also a bit confused. According to a website I've been looking at,
> Foundation gives me the ability to transmit on all frequencies on 10W?
Gives you access to all bands upto 70cm and then 10ghz, 10w is the maximum
you can use on most bands yes. The exceptions are 135-137khz and 10ghz which
are both 1 watt.
Mr Benn
> been informed that 2m/70cm is basically now filled with the mike
> keying, music playing brigade that've sodded off from CB especially in
> my area.
>
> As I'm only interested in DX'ing is this still viable?
Yes, during tropospheric lifts. You may also fancy your chances with
moonbounce on 70cm if you can fit a 5 metre dish in your garden!
HF is better though.
Conor
@c9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Dave says...
> Since you state you are only interested in DX then why worry or for
> that fact even mention that 2/70 in your area is as you state" now
> filled with the mike keying, music playing brigade that have sodded
> off from CB"..
I was under the assumption that foundation limited you to 2m/70cm hence
the comment.
> Yes the FL does let you transmit with 10w maximum so no confusion
> there.
Nice. Looking at what is involved in the Intermediate licence, my
problem is going to be bringing myself round to doing it. I've already
got a BTEC in Electronics Engineering so it's a bit like doing noddy
things again to some extent. It'd have been nice if I could have just
shown my certificate and not had to bother with most of the course.
Depends on how quickly I get fed up with the limitations of the FL but
knowing how addictive it all starts to get, I expect it'll be quite
quickly, wallet allowing.
> Yes that could possibly be construed as low power DX.
> You have never used a linear amp on CB, well done keep it up, though I
> doubt you will get a round of applause here for that.
> Could you explain legal-ish power for the uninitiated amongst us.
>
No more than 10W. Legal is 4W. Basically running <ahem> SSB on
unmodified sets. Certainly far closer to legal than 40/80/120 or
whatever linears come in these days. Got a partial contact with Poland
last night sat on the nearby seafront in my car using a sirio 4000
magmount but conditions weren't in my favour and it dropped off quite
quickly.
I'm one of those who would rather see how far I can get on what the set
can do alone rather than using a linear which, in my mind, is kind of
cheating.
Conor
says...
Thanks for that. It sounds like there's far more to get my teeth into
than doing it with CB.
Steve Painter
> been informed that 2m/70cm is basically now filled with the mike
> keying, music playing brigade that've sodded off from CB especially in
> my area.
>
> Conor
>
> I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
> looking good either. - Scott Adams
---->> http://tinyurl.com/lb6ytq
If you do get a FL license, try to conduct yourself in an appropriate
manner.
Start calling people 'dumb f*ck' on amateur radio and you`ll soon become
unpopular.
---->> http://tinyurl.com/lb6ytq
Steve
Conor
> If you do get a FL license, try to conduct yourself in an appropriate
> manner.
>
> Start calling people 'dumb f*ck' on amateur radio and you`ll soon become
> unpopular.
Only using it for DXing so there'll be no need.
Mr Benn
> In article <ivOdnX6CRcyPQNDX...@pipex.net>, Mr Benn
> says...
>>
>> "Conor" <co...@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.24b7e4104...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> > Been on CBs for years and thinking of getting into Amateur but I've
>> > been informed that 2m/70cm is basically now filled with the mike
>> > keying, music playing brigade that've sodded off from CB especially in
>> > my area.
>> >
>> > As I'm only interested in DX'ing is this still viable?
>>
>> Yes, during tropospheric lifts. You may also fancy your chances with
>> moonbounce on 70cm if you can fit a 5 metre dish in your garden!
>>
>> HF is better though.
>
> Thanks for that. It sounds like there's far more to get my teeth into
> than doing it with CB.
With amateur radio, it's so diverse in what you can do and it can be very
satisfying. I started on on HF using just a few milliwats of power using a
homemade transmitter and was delighted when I managed to make contact with a
station in France 400 miles away on 3.5MHz. A little later, I managed to
contact a Siberian station 4,500 miles away using just one watt of
transmitted power on 14MHz.
Ian Jackson
Conor <co...@gmx.co.uk> writes
>Been on CBs for years and thinking of getting into Amateur but I've
>been informed that 2m/70cm is basically now filled with the mike
>keying, music playing brigade that've sodded off from CB especially in
>my area.
>
NG, most of the 'messing about' seems to take place on repeaters. These
can be avoided. Indeed, there are those who feel that repeaters have no
place in amateur radio.
>As I'm only interested in DX'ing is this still viable?
>
Yes.
>Also a bit confused. According to a website I've been looking at,
>Foundation gives me the ability to transmit on all frequencies on 10W?
>
Yes (with maybe one or two frequency restrictions - see OFCOM website).
That is the intention of the FL. It's surprising how much DX can be
worked with FLs, running just 10W.
>That could swing it as low power Dx'ing is where I like to be. I must
>be the only person on CB who DX's on legal-ish power. Never used a
>linear amp for it.
>
Most radio amateurs are not really concerned about how much power CBers
use. However, highly commendable!
--
Ian
Steve Terry
> unmodified sets. Certainly far closer to legal than 40/80/120 or
> whatever linears come in these days. Got a partial contact with Poland
> last night sat on the nearby seafront in my car using a sirio 4000
> magmount but conditions weren't in my favour and it dropped off quite
> quickly.
>
>
Get yer cornflake packet FL M6 and buy yourself a widerband
Freebander set than you already have
Yer DX good buddies are waiting
Steve Terry
Steve Terry
"Steve Painter" <67348735...@nospamthanks.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Conor" <co...@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:MPG.24b7e4104...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Been on CBs for years and thinking of getting into Amateur but I've
>> been informed that 2m/70cm is basically now filled with the mike
>> keying, music playing brigade that've sodded off from CB especially in
>> my area.
>>
>> I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
>> looking good either. - Scott Adams
>
> ---->> http://tinyurl.com/lb6ytq
>
> If you do get a FL license, try to conduct yourself in an appropriate
> manner.
>
> Start calling people 'dumb f*ck' on amateur radio and you`ll soon become
> unpopular.
>
Steve Terry
Conor
> Another fecking self confessed Freebander, just what Amateur radio needs
>
I've done Royal Signals courses so I could say....
"Another fecking self confessed "expert", just what we need.
> Get yer cornflake packet FL M6 and buy yourself a widerband
> Freebander set than you already have
>
> Yer DX good buddies are waiting
>
> Steve Terry
Yawn.
Conor
> >As I'm only interested in DX'ing is this still viable?
> >
> Yes.
>
Good. I know a fair bit about repeaters due to working on them with a
friend who runs a PMR service and that its trivial to avoid using one.
> Most radio amateurs are not really concerned about how much power CBers
> use. However, highly commendable!
Thanks.
Conor
> Another fecking self confessed Freebander, just what Amateur radio needs
>
I've legally worked frequencies you'll never ever get access to.....
Conor
says...
> So what? That still doesn't qualify you to operate on the amateur
> bands.
>
Sorry, I was just pissed off by that wankers attitude and trying to
hold a pissing constest. I'd kind of hoped that things had moved on
from that.
Newsreader
The amateur bands are full of ex-CB crap anyway!
Josh Russel
> been informed that 2m/70cm is basically now filled with the mike
> keying, music playing brigade that've sodded off from CB especially in
> my area.
>
> As I'm only interested in DX'ing is this still viable?
>
> Also a bit confused. According to a website I've been looking at,
> Foundation gives me the ability to transmit on all frequencies on 10W?
>
> That could swing it as low power Dx'ing is where I like to be. I must
> be the only person on CB who DX's on legal-ish power. Never used a
> linear amp for it.
>
This time o' year is gud fer spuradics on 2 an' 70 so DX can 'appen on
them. Keyers never push enoug power ta cause any bovver or they would be
easily tracked down. Come aboard an' welcom to t' nobby
--
---
A g7 and lovin' it.
Josh Russel
> In article <5b6aa1b1-fedd-4f14-97f3-4817919152b8
> @c9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Dave says...
>
>> Since you state you are only interested in DX then why worry or for
>> that fact even mention that 2/70 in your area is as you state" now
>> filled with the mike keying, music playing brigade that have sodded
>> off from CB"..
>
> I was under the assumption that foundation limited you to 2m/70cm hence
> the comment.
Nope. You'se gets all of hf/vhf/uhf. You'se can do some good dx on 10 watts
if you'se has a gud antenna system. Even better if you;se operate narrow
band modes like data or cw.
Last week spuradics were up on 2m and I werked into Holland on 100 mW
>> Yes the FL does let you transmit with 10w maximum so no confusion
>> there.
>
> Nice. Looking at what is involved in the Intermediate licence, my
> problem is going to be bringing myself round to doing it. I've already
> got a BTEC in Electronics Engineering so it's a bit like doing noddy
> things again to some extent. It'd have been nice if I could have just
> shown my certificate and not had to bother with most of the course.
> Depends on how quickly I get fed up with the limitations of the FL but
> knowing how addictive it all starts to get, I expect it'll be quite
> quickly, wallet allowing.
You'se overqualified. :)
Don't gets to complaicent. makes sure you'se swot up on yer license
conditions. They trip people up.
>
>> Yes that could possibly be construed as low power DX.
>> You have never used a linear amp on CB, well done keep it up, though I
>> doubt you will get a round of applause here for that.
>> Could you explain legal-ish power for the uninitiated amongst us.
>>
> No more than 10W. Legal is 4W. Basically running <ahem> SSB on
> unmodified sets. Certainly far closer to legal than 40/80/120 or
> whatever linears come in these days. Got a partial contact with Poland
> last night sat on the nearby seafront in my car using a sirio 4000
> magmount but conditions weren't in my favour and it dropped off quite
> quickly.
SSB pirate 'as been a training ground fore many o' us.
They should legalise some ssb on cb for thos wanning ta takes thier ticket.
Josh Russel
"Steve Terry" <gFOU...@tesco.net> wrote in message
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> "Conor" <co...@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:MPG.24b7f51bf...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> In article <5b6aa1b1-fedd-4f14-97f3-4817919152b8
>> @c9g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, Dave says...
>> No more than 10W. Legal is 4W. Basically running <ahem> SSB on
>> unmodified sets. Certainly far closer to legal than 40/80/120 or
>> whatever linears come in these days. Got a partial contact with Poland
>> last night sat on the nearby seafront in my car using a sirio 4000
>> magmount but conditions weren't in my favour and it dropped off quite
>> quickly.
>>
>>
> Another fecking self confessed Freebander, just what Amateur radio needs
'e Dx's. You Dx. You is legal, 'e wants to go legal.. gud fer 'im.
>
> Get yer cornflake packet FL M6 and buy yourself a widerband
> Freebander set than you already have
As long as it's a commercial set. ;e aint allowed pmr or converted.
>
> Yer DX good buddies are waiting
one of em is called "Steve Terry". LOL.
--
---
A g7 and lovin' it.
>
> Steve Terry
>
Richard G3CWI
> This time o' year is gud fer spuradics on 2 an' 70
2 and 70? Are you sure of your facts?
--
Visit the Amazing Online Fleamarket at http://www.fleamarket.org.uk
Always lots of amateur radio gear!
Josh Russel
> In article <h2ks9q$9ke$1...@news.albasani.net>, Steve Terry says...
>
>> Another fecking self confessed Freebander, just what Amateur radio needs
>>
> I've done Royal Signals courses so I could say....
>
> "Another fecking self confessed "expert", just what we need.
Signals. Gud man. :)
>
>> Get yer cornflake packet FL M6 and buy yourself a widerband
>> Freebander set than you already have
>>
>> Yer DX good buddies are waiting
>>
>> Steve Terry
>
> Yawn.
I likes you. :)
Josh Russel
"Walt Davidson" <g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Fri, 3 Jul 2009 14:23:57 +0100, Conor <co...@gmx.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>In article <h2ks9q$9ke$1...@news.albasani.net>, Steve Terry says...
>>
>>> Another fecking self confessed Freebander, just what Amateur radio needs
>>>
>>I've legally worked frequencies you'll never ever get access to.....
>
> bands.
'is FL will do thats. LOL
>
> What people don't seem to realise is that radio amateurs are not
> restricted to type-approved equipment. They are allowed to use just
> about anything, including home made equipment. Therefore they need to
> demonstrate a much greater depth of technical understanding than those
> who work on "frequencies we'll never get access to".
'e never said that woz the limit of 'is skill.
Josh Russel
"Steve Painter" <67348735...@nospamthanks.net> wrote in message
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>
> news:MPG.24b7e4104...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> Been on CBs for years and thinking of getting into Amateur but I've
>> been informed that 2m/70cm is basically now filled with the mike
>> keying, music playing brigade that've sodded off from CB especially in
>> my area.
>>
>> --
>> Conor
>>
>> I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
>> looking good either. - Scott Adams
>
> ---->> http://tinyurl.com/lb6ytq
>
> If you do get a FL license, try to conduct yourself in an appropriate
> manner.
'e will conduct himself in the manner e hears others doin' including the
likes of Steve Terry.. LOL
--
---
A g7 and lovin' it.
>
Josh Russel
You'se the one giving abuse, mucker.
--
---
A g7 and lovin' it.
>
> Steve Terry
>
Steve Terry
"Josh Russel" <Jos...@antispam.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Steve Painter" <67348735...@nospamthanks.net> wrote in message
> news:7b68vuF...@mid.individual.net...
>>
>> "Conor" <co...@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
>> news:MPG.24b7e4104...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>> Been on CBs for years and thinking of getting into Amateur but I've
>>> been informed that 2m/70cm is basically now filled with the mike
>>> keying, music playing brigade that've sodded off from CB especially in
>>> my area.
>>>
>>> I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
>>> looking good either. - Scott Adams
>>
>> ---->> http://tinyurl.com/lb6ytq
>>
>> If you do get a FL license, try to conduct yourself in an appropriate
>> manner.
>
> 'e will conduct himself in the manner e hears others doin' including the
> likes of Steve Terry.. LOL
>
>
>
Freebanders
Steve Terry
Brian Reay
"Conor" <co...@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
news:MPG.24b7e4104...@news.eternal-september.org...
> Been on CBs for years and thinking of getting into Amateur but I've
> been informed that 2m/70cm is basically now filled with the mike
> keying, music playing brigade that've sodded off from CB especially in
> my area.
>
Having been licenced since the late 1970s, I've never know a period when 2m,
70cm (or any other amateur band) was "filled" in the way you say. The worst
period I recall for this was around 1978/79 and the culprits weren't CB
escapees.
> As I'm only interested in DX'ing is this still viable?
>
> Also a bit confused. According to a website I've been looking at,
> Foundation gives me the ability to transmit on all frequencies on 10W?
Most amateur bands are available to Foundation Licensees - the main
exceptions are those above 70cm (other than 10GHz).
Have a look at the RSGB website ("in your region") for a list of training
providers. If you don't require training, you need the list so you can find
a venue to take the assessments & exam.
Any problems, Email me direct.
--
73
Brian G8OSN/W8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk
Des Kinvig
> I've legally worked frequencies you'll never ever get access to.....
>
>
good stay there then ......
Josh Russel
To forget implies tha' you once knew.. Goin' on your posts show that you
didn't and still don't know owt.
--
---
A g7 and lovin' it.
>
> Steve Terry
>
Josh Russel
"Richard G3CWI" <g3...@tesco.net> wrote in message
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> Josh Russel wrote:
>
>> This time o' year is gud fer spuradics on 2 an' 70
>
> 2 and 70? Are you sure of your facts?
>
Yeah.
--
---
A g7 and lovin' it.
>
Richard G3CWI
> Yeah.
>
>
What's your best DX on 70cm Sporadic E?
c...@nospam.netunix.com
> Don't bother, mate - stay on CB.
> The amateur bands are full of ex-CB crap anyway!
Oh FFS.
Give the guy an even break will you.
Amateur radio is about self improvement, just give him a helping hand
and make a decent operator out of him.
Playing the grumpy old snob just shows you up as a twat.
I came up via broadcast then military then PMR before I got my ZS licence.
If there was CB in those days I would probably have played with that
as well on the way.
g4jci
Newsreader
<c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com> wrote in message
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> Newsreader <Newsr...@uk.radio.amateur> wrote:
>> Don't bother, mate - stay on CB.
>> The amateur bands are full of ex-CB crap anyway!
>
How much "self improvement" do you hear on the bands these days?
Amateur radio today is totally f**ked, thanks to CB, the RSCB and Ofcom!
Josh Russel
> Josh Russel wrote:
>
>> Yeah.
>>
>>
>
> What's your best DX on 70cm Sporadic E?
an IQ station. Overs 2000 Km
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---
A g7 and lovin' it.
>
Richard G3CWI
> an IQ station. Overs 2000 Km
>
>
Impressive. Easily the World Record for 70cm Sporadic E; congratulations.
Robin
>
> "Richard G3CWI" <g3...@tesco.net> wrote in message
> news:QOadnW1KGY9PstPX...@bt.com...
>> Josh Russel wrote:
>>
>>> Yeah.
>>>
>>>
>>
>> What's your best DX on 70cm Sporadic E?
>
> an IQ station. Overs 2000 Km
>
>
Wow! a world first.. SP-e on UHF?
Or maybe the VI is just confused, and thinks any VHF/UHF DX is SP-e not
Tropospheric ducting?
Yeti
> 'e Dx's. You Dx. You is legal, 'e wants to go legal.. gud fer 'im.
>> Get yer cornflake packet FL M6 and buy yourself a widerband
>> Freebander set than you already have
>
> As long as it's a commercial set. ;e aint allowed pmr or converted.
he's allowed an ex-PMR set, as long as it hasn't been modified to put it
on Amateur Frequencies.
Josh Russel
"Richard G3CWI" <g3...@tesco.net> wrote in message
news:pN6dndB7yIjy3NPX...@bt.com...
> Josh Russel wrote:
>
>> an IQ station. Overs 2000 Km
>>
>>
> Impressive. Easily the World Record for 70cm Sporadic E; congratulations.
I doubts it.
Josh Russel
"Robin" <m...@here.com> wrote in message
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Could be. Whatevers it woz fecking awesom.
Richard G3CWI
> I doubts it.
>
>
You are seriously misunderestimating yourself.
Robin
Is English not your first language?
Steve
> Josh Russel wrote:
>
>> an IQ station. Overs 2000 Km
>>
>>
> Impressive. Easily the World Record for 70cm Sporadic E;
> congratulations.
Yes indeed... maybe he made this record breaking "first" QSO on the same
day as he worked Holland on "spuradics"- fantastically high MUFs that day
obviously, whenever it was, that went unnoticed by all the real DXers.
How strange...
Steve
Chris Kirby
>Richard G3CWI wrote
>> What's your best DX on 70cm Sporadic E?
>
>an IQ station. Overs 2000 Km
An IQ0 probably...
;-)
--
73 Chris
G4FZN
Steve Terry
> In article <h2ks9q$9ke$1...@news.albasani.net>, Steve Terry says...
>
>> Another fecking self confessed Freebander, just what Amateur radio needs
>>
> Conor
>
use
and that isn't 27.555
As your Kenyaesucom is obviously going to spend most of it's time on 555,
why not just feck of back and stay there
Steve Terry
Conor
> I wonder which area that is?
>
I was meaning more for CB dying a complete death. Lack of interference
on 2m/70cm means you're gonna hear more people from further away..
> Most amateur bands are available to Foundation Licensees - the main
> exceptions are those above 70cm (other than 10GHz).
>
> Have a look at the RSGB website ("in your region") for a list of training
> providers. If you don't require training, you need the list so you can find
> a venue to take the assessments & exam.
>
> Any problems, Email me direct.
Thanks. Already been on the RSGB website and got a contact for a guy 10
miles from me.
--
Steve Terry
>> Don't bother, mate - stay on CB.
>> The amateur bands are full of ex-CB crap anyway!
>
> Oh FFS.
> Give the guy an even break will you.
> Amateur radio is about self improvement, just give him a helping hand
> and make a decent operator out of him.
>
>
for a wider Kenyaesucom
Steve Terry
Conor
When was the last time you used an antenna 300ft long....
Conor
Well, I know one pillock not worth bothering with.
Chris Street
>> Been on CBs for years and thinking of getting into Amateur but I've
>> been informed that 2m/70cm is basically now filled with the mike
>> keying, music playing brigade that've sodded off from CB especially in
>> my area.
>>
>> Conor
>>
>> I only please one person per day. Today is not your day. Tomorrow isn't
>> looking good either. - Scott Adams
>
>
> If you do get a FL license, try to conduct yourself in an appropriate
> manner.
>
> unpopular.
>
>
> Steve
>
It's Conor. He makes himself unpopular everywhere seemingly without even
trying.
>
>
Des Kinvig
>
> Well, I know one pillock not worth bothering with.
>
> Conor
You know Brian ? ....
Dave
> Been on CBs for years and thinking of getting into Amateur but I've
> been informed that 2m/70cm is basically now filled with the mike
> keying, music playing brigade that've sodded off from CB especially in
> my area.
>
>
> Also a bit confused. According to a website I've been looking at,
> Foundation gives me the ability to transmit on all frequencies on 10W?
>
> be the only person on CB who DX's on legal-ish power. Never used a
> linear amp for it.
Are you the same Conor I wrote to about a bt home hub the other day?
Dave
Des Kinvig
>
> When was the last time you used an antenna 300ft long....
>
>
1979 ....
Conor
> Are you the same Conor I wrote to about a bt home hub the other day?
>
> Dave
Yup.
Conor
Kinvig says...
>
> >
> > When was the last time you used an antenna 300ft long....
> >
> >
>
> 1979 ....
Wow, Steve Terry said that without even having to use his keyboard.
Steve Terry
"Des Kinvig" <kinvig...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
>> Well, I know one pillock not worth bothering with.
>> Conor
>
> You know Brian ? ....
>
Steve Terry
Steve Terry
> In article <h2llj5$cla$1...@news.albasani.net>, Steve Terry says...
>>
>> <c...@NOSPAM.netunix.com> wrote in message
>> news:4a4e3765$0$31040$bed6...@news.gradwell.net...
>> > Newsreader <Newsr...@uk.radio.amateur> wrote:
>> >> Don't bother, mate - stay on CB.
>> >> The amateur bands are full of ex-CB crap anyway!
>> >
>> > Oh FFS.
>> > Give the guy an even break will you.
>> > Amateur radio is about self improvement, just give him a helping hand
>> > and make a decent operator out of him.
>> >
>> By self improvement you mean swapping his 27MHz freebander
>> for a wider Kenyaesucom
>> Steve Terry
>
> Well, I know one pillock not worth bothering with.
>
>
You still here?
They're calling for you on the 555, quick or you might miss a DX copy
fer sure good buddy
Steve Terry
Des Kinvig
> In article <Kov3m.51158$OO7....@text.news.virginmedia.com>, Des
> Kinvig says...
>>
>> >
>> > When was the last time you used an antenna 300ft long....
>> >
>> >
>>
>> 1979 ....
>
> Wow, Steve Terry said that without even having to use his keyboard.
>
no he didn't...that was me ...
Dave
> In article <h8Gdnai4DdsbH9PX...@bt.com>, Dave says...
>
>> Are you the same Conor I wrote to about a bt home hub the other day?
>>
>> Dave
>
> Yup.
>
>
Dave
Mr. Benn
@news.eternal-september.org:
> In article <jt1s459gt4md8kdip...@4ax.com>, Walt Davidson
> says...
>
>> So what? That still doesn't qualify you to operate on the amateur
>> bands.
>>
> Sorry, I was just pissed off by that wankers attitude and trying to
> hold a pissing constest. I'd kind of hoped that things had moved on
> from that.
Don't worry Conor, there seem to be a lot of unwelcoming idiots populating
this newsgroup. Amateur radio is an interesting hobby and I hope you enjoy
it as much as I have.
Josh Russel
> Josh Russel wrote:
>
>> I doubts it.
>>
>>
> You are seriously misunderestimating yourself.
It woz impressive. I don'ts use 70 much at all as my 897 woz deaf there but
its just needed aligning and i woz testing it in a ragchew on ssb and i
heads an IQ station. I woz using a 6 ele quad and 20 watts. perhaps it was
tropo ducting as well.
Josh Russel
Josh Russel
"Chris Kirby" <g4...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:k1ms4555bkoev36p9...@4ax.com...
> Josh Russel wrote:
>
>>Richard G3CWI wrote
>>> What's your best DX on 70cm Sporadic E?
>>
>>an IQ station. Overs 2000 Km
>
> An IQ0 probably...
>
> ;-)
>
LOL
--
---
A g7 and lovin' it.
> --
> 73 Chris
> G4FZN
Steve Terry
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Steve Terry
Chris Kirby
>What's your best DX on 70cm Sporadic E?
Has there _ever_ been a substantiated recorded instance of Sporadic-E
QSO on 70cm?
It has occasionally been observed on 220MHz in the US, but I can find
no claims for an Es contact at 440 (432) MHz.
A good reference to Es propagation is at:
http://www.uksmg.org/content/sporade.htm
--
73, Chris
G4FZN
Conor
> They're calling for you on the 555, quick or you might miss a DX copy
> fer sure good buddy
>
At least they're not an arsehole like you.
Conor
says...
> Don't worry Conor, there seem to be a lot of unwelcoming idiots populating
> this newsgroup. Amateur radio is an interesting hobby and I hope you enjoy
> it as much as I have.
S'OK. I've met a few IRL. One as recently as last weekend when I bought
a 25A PSU off him. Will be meeting quite a few at York radio rally in
the morning.
Thankfully they're 99% completely the opposite of Steve.
Steve, they obviously wrote this page with you in mind.
http://www.laughingpoliceman.com/amateur_radio.htm
Steve Terry
> In article <h2m0p0$r7a$1...@news.albasani.net>, Steve Terry says...
>
>> They're calling for you on the 555, quick or you might miss a DX copy
>> fer sure good buddy
>>
> At least they're not an arsehole like you.
>
>
Class A arsehole please
Steve Terry
Yeti
> In article <h2m0p0$r7a$1...@news.albasani.net>, Steve Terry says...
>
>> They're calling for you on the 555, quick or you might miss a DX copy
>> fer sure good buddy
>>
> At least they're not an arsehole like you.
>
You know, I'm forever defending ex-CBers - but it's difficult when
you've barely managed to go two days on this newsgroup without swearing
at one of the "Class A's" (take note of the quotes there).
Conor wrote:
> In article <CtednVrVj5p-u9LX...@pipex.net>, Mr. Benn
> says...
>
>> Don't worry Conor, there seem to be a lot of unwelcoming idiots populating
>> this newsgroup. Amateur radio is an interesting hobby and I hope you enjoy
>> it as much as I have.
>
> S'OK. I've met a few IRL. One as recently as last weekend when I bought
> a 25A PSU off him. Will be meeting quite a few at York radio rally in
> the morning.
>
> Thankfully they're 99% completely the opposite of Steve.
>
> Steve, they obviously wrote this page with you in mind.
>
> http://www.laughingpoliceman.com/amateur_radio.htm
>
>
I've read right through that site, and it does sum up everything that's
wrong with Amateur Radio. I especially can't believe there's guys who
have put in the time and effort to pass the old type RAE (A or B) only
to throw it away to play some music down a repeater, or worse, to
actually put the effort into building a repeater jamming device.
Steve Terry
news:20090704184...@peterson.fenrir.org.uk...
> falling foul of what you regard as his unacceptable past? Either you
> have to offer him a path to what you see as righteousness or
> alternatively ignore him, you can't just sit there and complain at
> someone who actually wants to progress. Or can you?
> Brian Morrison
>
>
Are you some sort of loony evangelist?
No one can offer him or anyone a path to righteousness as you put it,
like every other Freebander he will obviously do what he'll do, and does.
Stop acting like Brian saving the fallen, you just make yourself
look as wrenched as he is
Steve Terry
Steve Terry
"Walt Davidson" <g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote in message
news:f1ov45pvp2p65gmf3...@4ax.com...
> On Sat, 04 Jul 2009 20:23:44 +0100, Yeti <ye...@ayrshore.com> wrote:
>
>>You know, I'm forever defending ex-CBers -
>
> Once a CBer, _ALWAYS_ a CBer.
> 73 de G3NYY
> Walt Davidson Email: g3nyy @despammed.com
>
>
It is a mindset, once a Freebander there's no incentive to think any other
way,
especially as the system now encourages it as a normally
Steve Terry
Steve Terry
> On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 00:55:26 +0100
>
> with a different path into radio to fulfil whatever magical requirements
> you think there should be.
>
>> No one can offer him or anyone a path to righteousness as you put it,
>> like every other Freebander he will obviously do what he'll do, and does.
>
> anyone who does the "freebanding" thing, so I have no experience of
> that particular group to go on.
>
>
It ain't difficult, try listening to the 555 over a long period of time,
eventually you'll realise the Freebander attitude there has with the
help of people like Brian, migrated to all Amateur bands as now normal.
Steve Terry
Steve Terry
> On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 01:28:44 +0100
> "Steve Terry" <gFOU...@tesco.net> wrote:
>
>> It ain't difficult, try listening to the 555 over a long period of time,
>
> I do care about.
> Brian Morrison
>
>
OK live in ignorance of the greatest source of the present
and future of Amateur radio
Steve Terry
star...@invalid.invalid
wrote:
>On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 01:28:44 +0100
>"Steve Terry" <gFOU...@tesco.net> wrote:
>
>> It ain't difficult, try listening to the 555 over a long period of time,
>
>But I don't want to, I have little enough time to listen to the things
>I do care about.
Steve,
Send him some recordings of 555 and let him listen to them that way.
Of course....Brian will pipe-up and deny that such behaviour exists.
Yeti
> "Brian Morrison" <b...@fenrir.org.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:20090705015...@peterson.fenrir.org.uk...> On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 01:28:44 +0100
>
> >> It ain't difficult, try listening to the 555 over a long period of time,
>
> > But I don't want to, I have little enough time to listen to the things
> > I do care about.
> > Brian Morrison
>
> OK live in ignorance of the greatest source of the present
> and future of Amateur radio
>
> Steve Terry
You left out 'past'...........
Steve Terry
news:9f756410-6c8c-4fcd...@26g2000yqk.googlegroups.com...
Steve Terry
Steve Terry
> On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:16:44 GMT
> star...@invalid.invalid wrote
> time I listen? If so then I'd be surprised.
>
Very different, was anyway, was completely different mind set.
>
> And if people here decry CB so much then why are you all listening to
> 555?
> Brian Morrison
>
>
555 ain't CB it's Freebanding, CBers (not that there's any left)
operated first on 27 AM, then legally on 27/81 and later CEPT
interested only in local chat
Listening to 555 is one way of predict 28MHz conditions as there's
always activity on the 555 around Europe, 28MHz being under
populated it's difficult to tell band conditions.
I've been listening on and off to 555 (+-500kHz) for well over 20 years
in those days Freebanders were using opened up widebanded
(Freeband) Ham International and Unidens with Bremi or Zetargi
nowhere near linears, and most of the topic of conversations were
that they had no interest in that there Ham stuff, with stoopid exams
and restrictive licences that them cost money, etc.
Thanks to the unceasing efforts of people like Brian, and a RA
(now Ofcom) that realised that the easy way to get them off their
TVI sprog boxes and so off their responsibility, was to feed them
into the Amateur bands (with RSGB support) by giving them easy
licences, it's all changed.
Steve Terry
Brian Reay
>
> And if people here decry CB so much then why are you all listening to
> 555?
I often wonder about that. However, some have far stronger links with CB
than they would care to admit.
Ask Speedking / Speed King.
--
73
Brian G8OSN/W8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk
Yeti
> "Brian Morrison" <b...@fenrir.org.uk> wrote in message
>
> news:20090705023...@peterson.fenrir.org.uk...
>
> > On Sun, 05 Jul 2009 01:16:44 GMT
> >> On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 01:58:44 +0100, Brian Morrison <b...@fenrir.org.uk>
> >> wrote:
> >> >On Sun, 5 Jul 2009 01:28:44 +0100
> >> >"Steve Terry" <gFOUR...@tesco.net> wrote:
>
> >> >> It ain't difficult, try listening to the 555 over a long period of
> >> >> time,
>
> >> >But I don't want to, I have little enough time to listen to the things
> >> >I do care about.
>
> >> Steve,
> >> Send him some recordings of 555 and let him listen to them that way.
> >> Of course....Brian will pipe-up and deny that such behaviour exists.
>
> > Is it any worse than some of the behaviour I hear on HF just about any
> > time I listen? If so then I'd be surprised.
>
> Very different, was anyway, was completely different mind set.
>
> > And if people here decry CB so much then why are you all listening to
> > 555?
> > Brian Morrison
>
> 555 ain't CB it's Freebanding, CBers (not that there's any left)
> operated first on 27 AM, then legally on 27/81 and later CEPT
> interested only in local chat
Sorry, but please explain how using 27MHz AM wasn't freebanding? It
clearly was!
Conor
> 555 ain't CB it's Freebanding, CBers (not that there's any left)
> operated first on 27 AM, then legally on 27/81 and later CEPT
> interested only in local chat
>
So if you're so against it, why are you listening to it, hypocrite?
DieSea
Time for the KillFyle
star...@invalid.invalid
wrote:
>And if people here decry CB so much then why are you all listening to
>555?
to recognise the voices heard on 40m later on in the evening??
Steve Terry
>
>> 555 ain't CB it's Freebanding, CBers (not that there's any left)
>> operated first on 27 AM, then legally on 27/81 and later CEPT
>> interested only in local chat
>>
> So if you're so against it, why are you listening to it, hypocrite?
>
>
I'm waiting for you to call DX on the 555 so i can get an idea
of 10M band conditions depending on where they call you back from.
Steve Terry
Steve Terry
illegal widebanded SSB CB radios with illegal linears.
As time has gone by the bandwidth of their radios has increased
till they now cover 1.5 to 40MHz.
Whereas a CBer can be a operator using unmodified radios
for local use as they were designed for.
Steve Terry
Jim GM4DHJ/M
> I've read right through that site, and it does sum up everything that's
> wrong with Amateur Radio. I especially can't believe there's guys who have
> put in the time and effort to pass the old type RAE (A or B) only to throw
> it away to play some music down a repeater, or worse, to actually put the
> effort into building a repeater jamming device.
brian etc trashed the hobby all on their own ......
Jim GM4DHJ/M
>
> Time for the KillFyle
>
>
>
leave my new friend conor alone ! ........
Steve Terry
news:joY3m.65899$ZB1....@newsfe11.ams2...
> "Brian Morrison" <b...@fenrir.org.uk> wrote in message
> news:20090705023...@peterson.fenrir.org.uk...
> >
>> And if people here decry CB so much then why are you all listening to
>> 555?
>
> I often wonder about that. However, some have far stronger links with CB
> than they would care to admit.
>
> Ask Speedking / Speed King.
> Brian G8OSN/W8OSN
> www.g8osn.org.uk
>
>
Whoever you paid for that information ripped you off, they must have been
thinking of Truck King CB shop which traded nearby in Rickmansworth.
As if was first Licensed in 1976 i obviously couldn't have got into Amateur
radio via CB, and as it you who goes out of his way to sign up good buddies
for the FL, who has the stronger links with CB?
Steve Terry
Yeti
> In article <h2p7ui$sr7$1...@news.albasani.net>, Steve Terry says...
>
>> 555 ain't CB it's Freebanding, CBers (not that there's any left)
>> operated first on 27 AM, then legally on 27/81 and later CEPT
>> interested only in local chat
>>
> So if you're so against it, why are you listening to it, hypocrite?
>
>
>
Steve Terry
"Jim GM4DHJ/M" <jim.g...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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Steve Terry
Yeti
> Freebanding (an American term) refers to DXers who use converted
> illegal widebanded SSB CB radios with illegal linears.
> As time has gone by the bandwidth of their radios has increased
> till they now cover 1.5 to 40MHz.
>
> Whereas a CBer can be a operator using unmodified radios
> for local use as they were designed for.
>
> Steve Terry
>
>
So they need to use a linear to be freebanders?
That rules out anyone I've ever met - I've never seen an external PA for
a 27MHz radio that was 'linear'...
Aside from that, SSB CB Radios are legal in the US, and in a lot of
Europe, and I have met very few people that bother to use a 'burner' (I
refuse to call them linears) on an SSB CB Radio.
You massively hype up the TVI potential of such radios, most are well
within the limits set for legal FM CBs by Ofcom, and for 10m rigs too,
although I did know of one that covered about 1.5 to 40MHz -
simultaneously...
Conor
Conor
> Aside from that, SSB CB Radios are legal in the US, and in a lot of
> Europe, and I have met very few people that bother to use a 'burner' (I
> refuse to call them linears) on an SSB CB Radio.
>
I've never felt the need to. 10W is more than enough if you can set up
an antenna properly.
> You massively hype up the TVI potential of such radios, most are well
> within the limits set for legal FM CBs by Ofcom, and for 10m rigs too,
Indeed. They're best left well alone which is why I've preferred to buy
new so you know some muppet hasn't been in there tweaking everything
they could fit a screwdriver into.
Conor
> Bear in mind that even listening to it is illegal.
ROFL.
Yeti
> As if was first Licensed in 1976 i obviously couldn't have got into Amateur
> radio via CB,
How did you work that out? CB Radios had been about in the UK since 1971ish.