Something We All Knew Anyway
Mike Hunt
Americas support this bullshit.
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
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> Bloody eco do-gooders, I wonder if China/ Indian sub continent and The
> Americas support this bullshit.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ye23kk6
I knew THAT .......
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
> Americas support this bullshit.
>
> http://tinyurl.com/ye23kk6
I have a HUGE stock of 200w 150w 100w watt bulbs in the garage........but at
work I have to force people top fit 50% of those crappy things
Ian Jackson
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>Bloody eco do-gooders, I wonder if China/ Indian sub continent and The
>Americas support this bullshit.
>
>http://tinyurl.com/ye23kk6
This is one area of Global Warming where we (well, some of us) are being
well and truly hoodwinked, conned, lied to, and generally treated like
idiots. It's worth listening to the item on CFL low-energy lightbulbs in
today's BBC R4 'More or Less' programme. It's on first.
<http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00p6v3t/More_or_Less_11_12_2009/>
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Mike Hunt
Thanks for thatI will have a listen when the dragon goes out on her
works Christmas do, tonight.
I bought plenty incandescent types for my workbench lamps at work, when
we found out about tha ban.
And, just as Jim has done I will be burning stashed ones, at home till I
pop me clogs.
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
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Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
Len GM0ONX
Often!
Ian Jackson
>Ian Jackson wrote:
>> In message <9luUm.10396$5e7....@newsfe16.ams2>, Mike Hunt
>><imac...@baldsheep.com> writes
>>> Bloody eco do-gooders, I wonder if China/ Indian sub continent and
>>>The Americas support this bullshit.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/ye23kk6
>> This is one area of Global Warming where we (well, some of us) are
>>being well and truly hoodwinked, conned, lied to, and generally
>>treated like idiots. It's worth listening to the item on CFL
>>low-energy lightbulbs in today's BBC R4 'More or Less' programme. It's
>>on first.
>>
>><http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b00p6v3t/More_or_Less_11_12_2009/>
>
>Thanks for thatI will have a listen when the dragon goes out on her
>works Christmas do, tonight.
>
( http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/magazine/8406923.stm ) is essentially a
transcript of the radio programme.
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Ian
Johnny Melvin
Some of BS5750 when I was pushed into it in the NHS some years ago.
Ok sometimes you kind of though, that's better why did I not think of that
before.
Other times..What the hell, you must be joking.
But it was a MUST DO thing.
de Johnny G3LIV
Johnny Melvin
I bought 2 packs of 20 -100 watts from RAPID recently.
They are hid with my Coke stash LOL.
de Johnny G3LIV
Yeti
Yes. Fix french and italian cars. and Vauxhall Fronteras.
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
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tee hee .....
Mike Hunt
Yes, Unleaded solder & Surface Mount inductors.
It is life Jim, but not as we know it.
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
I know...the world is f****d
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
is wonderful ...as they make it worser.......
Len GM0ONX
> "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..." <jim.g...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>> "Mike Hunt" <imac...@baldsheep.com> wrote in message
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>>> Jimbo GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>> "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..." <jim.g...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>>>> news:hftt41$7kt$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>>> "Mike Hunt" <imac...@baldsheep.com> wrote in message
>>>>> news:9luUm.10396$5e7....@newsfe16.ams2...
>>>>>> Bloody eco do-gooders, I wonder if China/ Indian sub continent and The
>>>>>> Americas support this bullshit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://tinyurl.com/ye23kk6
>>>>> I have a HUGE stock of 200w 150w 100w watt bulbs in the
>>>>> garage........but at work I have to force people top fit 50% of those
>>>>> crappy things
>>>>>
>>>> does anybody else do things at work that they don't believe in? ........
>>> Yes, Unleaded solder & Surface Mount inductors.
>>>
>>> It is life Jim, but not as we know it.
>> I know...the world is f****d
>>
> most people think that...except for the likes of brian who think the world
> is wonderful ...as they make it worser.......
>
>
If you not enjoying it any more do something else. You're a long time
dead so enjoy life!
Brian Reay
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> If you not enjoying it any more do something else. You're a long time
> dead so enjoy life!
Some people wallow in misery. Take away their misery and they are unhappy.
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Life is too short for cheap wine.
Brian Reay
> I bought plenty incandescent types for my workbench lamps at work, when
> we found out about tha ban.
Have you tried the halogen ones? A bit dearer than the "normal" incandescent
lamps but a much better light to work by.
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
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> "Len GM0ONX" <gm0...@goooooglemail.com> wrote in message
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> > If you not enjoying it any more do something else. You're a long time
>> dead so enjoy life!
>
> Some people wallow in misery. Take away their misery and they are unhappy.
>
>
Mike Hunt
> "Mike Hunt" <imac...@baldsheep.com> wrote in message
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> > I bought plenty incandescent types for my workbench lamps at work, when
>> we found out about tha ban.
>
> Have you tried the halogen ones? A bit dearer than the "normal" incandescent
> lamps but a much better light to work by.
>
buying "daylight" fluorescent tubes to replace the normal ones in the
workshops. 1 every 6 ft provides almost "bright" daylight at 10 ft above
the benches.
For close up illumination, you cant beat an old fashioned 250 W bulb
Mike
Steve Terry
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new cars for 2009 and expected to produce well over another 1 million
by the end of the year
When China alone is producing over a million cars a month every month,
what's the fecking point?
Steve Terry
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Steve Terry
> "Mike Hunt" <imac...@baldsheep.com> wrote in message
> news:RdvUm.6242$Ub....@newsfe17.ams2...
> > I bought plenty incandescent types for my workbench lamps at work, when
>> we found out about tha ban.
>
> Have you tried the halogen ones? A bit dearer than the "normal"
> incandescent lamps but a much better light to work by.
> Brian G8OSN/W8OSN
>
>
Mains LED bulbs are starting to appear
http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.2849
In a year or two they'll be a more reasonable price, and all the florescent
low energy bulbs we now use will become obsolete
Steve Terry
> "Len GM0ONX" <gm0...@goooooglemail.com> wrote in message
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> > If you not enjoying it any more do something else. You're a long time
>> dead so enjoy life!
>
> Some people wallow in misery. Take away their misery and they are unhappy.
> Brian G8OSN/W8OSN
>
>
Freud said the purpose of Psychoanalysis was to turn neurotic misery into
ordinary unhappiness
Pretty much the opposite of what you manage
Brian Reay
> Brian Reay wrote:
>> "Mike Hunt" <imac...@baldsheep.com> wrote in message
>> news:RdvUm.6242$Ub....@newsfe17.ams2...
>> > I bought plenty incandescent types for my workbench lamps at work,
>> when
>>> we found out about tha ban.
>>
>> Have you tried the halogen ones? A bit dearer than the "normal"
>> incandescent lamps but a much better light to work by.
>>
> The halogen ones are very poor for close up work Brian, I ended up buying
> "daylight" fluorescent tubes to replace the normal ones in the workshops.
> 1 every 6 ft provides almost "bright" daylight at 10 ft above the benches.
>
Interesting. I have 5ft flourescents above my work bench and find
supplementing them with a 75W halogen the best solution for close work-
although I've not tried a 250W bulb!
I tend not to do very much close work these days ( fingers don't work so
well) but find the halogen the best supplement when I do. Even as a desk
light for I prefer the "whiter" light of a 75W halogen over a 100W "normal"
bulb.
I suppose it comes down to personal choice.
CFLs are hopeless for close work and not that good for general room
illumination. Too "yellow".
luc...@eternal-flames.gov
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>Interesting. I have 5ft flourescents above my work bench and find
FlourescentS - as in _Two_. :-)
>supplementing them with a 75W halogen the best solution for close work-
>although I've not tried a 250W bulb!
>I tend not to do very much close work these days ( fingers don't work so
>well) but find the halogen the best supplement when I do. Even as a desk
>light for I prefer the "whiter" light of a 75W halogen over a 100W "normal"
>bulb.
Next time you replace a tube, ask for 'Northlight Office'
It's much whiter light than from the usual tubes.
Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI
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An unexpected comment from you, Sire!
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Mike Hunt
I have a 75w halogen lamp with a magnifier and sometimes use that, but
if I am fault finding on some of the smaller SM boards the surface mount
rework station has its own illumination - a 250w bulb & diffuser !
I still have to use a microscope on some boards and find halogen lamps
cast a noticeable shadow on the work , whereas the standard bulbs are
not as bad.
Sometimes it makes the difference for me between seeing poor soldering
or not.
Then again my eyes are crap to start with :(
Len GM0ONX
There a couple of decent LED street lights coming on to the market at
the moment but they cost over �500 a pop! You simply can't get a
financial return on any savings on the cost of energy and maintenance at
that price.
The colour may be a major problem in domestic situations as the white
is really harsh and uniformity poor. Philips have got round the problem
by enclosing their LEDs behind a phosphor coated glass similar to that
used in florescent tubes. It reduces the efficacy of the lamp slightly
but looks very effective.
Len GM0ONX
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
bulbs from all the Paki shops ........
luc...@eternal-flames.gov
Why?
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
Desmond Kinvig
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> "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..." <jim.g...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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>> "Mike Hunt" <imac...@baldsheep.com> wrote in message
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>>> Bloody eco do-gooders, I wonder if China/ Indian sub continent and The
>>> Americas support this bullshit.
>>>
>>> http://tinyurl.com/ye23kk6
>>
>> I have a HUGE stock of 200w 150w 100w watt bulbs in the garage........but
>> at work I have to force people top fit 50% of those crappy things
>>
> China has announced beginning of December producing 12 million
> new cars for 2009 and expected to produce well over another 1 million
> by the end of the year
>
> When China alone is producing over a million cars a month every month,
> what's the fecking point?
>
> Steve Terry
no point .......
Desmond Kinvig
> There a couple of decent LED street lights coming on to the market at the
> moment but they cost over �500 a pop! You simply can't get a financial
> return on any savings on the cost of energy and maintenance at that price.
>
> The colour may be a major problem in domestic situations as the white is
> really harsh and uniformity poor. Philips have got round the problem by
> enclosing their LEDs behind a phosphor coated glass similar to that used
> in florescent tubes. It reduces the efficacy of the lamp slightly but
> looks very effective.
>
> Len GM0ONX
LED tail lights in cars hurtred my eyes .......
Steve Terry
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What worries me in the short term is it won't be long before China buys up
at least half the worlds petrol supplies for those cars, pushing oil to at
least
$200 a barrel, and us paying at least �2 a litre.
In the long term our only hope is fusion energy, if the bottle to hold the
sun
is successfully developed before fossil fuels runs out then we can look to a
both a comfortable future and low Co2, if not we can look forward to a
new Mad Max middle ages ;-(
Steve Terry
Spike
Steve Terry wrote:
> we can look forward to a new Mad Max middle ages ;-(
I thought we were well on the way there already :-((
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replacing them with LED (about 2/0.5w) saves around 42/13watts.
Jimbo ...
>
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>>
>>> There a couple of decent LED street lights coming on to the market at
>>> the moment but they cost over �500 a pop! You simply can't get a
>>> financial return on any savings on the cost of energy and maintenance at
>>> that price.
>>>
>>> The colour may be a major problem in domestic situations as the white
>>> is really harsh and uniformity poor. Philips have got round the problem
>>> by enclosing their LEDs behind a phosphor coated glass similar to that
>>> used in florescent tubes. It reduces the efficacy of the lamp slightly
>>> but looks very effective.
>>>
>>> Len GM0ONX
>>
>> LED tail lights in cars hurtred my eyes .......
>>
> I had a pair of 23/7w tail light bulbs in my Kawasaki Z750,
> replacing them with LED (about 2/0.5w) saves around 42/13watts.
>
Dave
In the long term our only hope is fusion energy, if the bottle to hold the
sun
is successfully developed before fossil fuels runs out then we can look to a
both a comfortable future and low Co2, if not we can look forward to a
new Mad Max middle ages ;-(
Why should we worry about low Co2? I see the sceptics are making
headlines on Co2 causing global warming these last few days. Don't give
any government a reason to tax us even wore.
Dave
Catweazel
[snip]
>
> Why should we worry about low Co2? I see the sceptics are making
> headlines on Co2 causing global warming these last few days. Don't give
> any government a reason to tax us even wore.
>
tax baked beans.