Test posting to uk.radio.amateur test
Ian Jackson
Please no comments about using a test NG.
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"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:DLplFHGL...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...
>I have a specific reason for testing posting to this NG.
> Please no comments about using a test NG.
> --
>
You're 5 and 4 here OM.
2CA001
> I have a specific reason for testing posting to this NG.
> Please no comments about using a test NG.
You sound way off frequency. You should be on alt.test :)
Ian Jackson
<cla...@comcast.net> writes
I am having certain difficulties with posting follow-ups to this NG.
I am having no difficulties with posting to alt.test.
How would sending a test posting to alt.test would help me to resolve my
difficulties in posting to uk.radio.amateur?
--
Ian
2CA001
Usenet is Usenet. If one group works, so should another. That sounds
like an ISP issue that you might need to take up with Demon.
Steve Terry
>
>
You ain't the only one having trouble with Demons newsserver
Take it up with Demon
Steve Terry
Ian Jackson
I say again, one more time for the benefit of those who can be bothered
to read...
I am having certain difficulties with posting follow-ups to this NG.
I am having no difficulties with posting to alt.test.
To this I can add (having made the above tests)...
It appears that I don't seem to be having too much difficulty making
posting new postings to this NG.
However, sometimes I DO seem to be able to post follow-ups to this NG,
but not every time.
All I'm trying to do is to find out what is presently working, and what
isn't. That (believe it or not) is what real radio amateurs do.
Take it up with Demon? You have to be joking! The Demon news server went
down for the second time about 30 minutes before they belatedly updated
the status message about the previous 12 day outage. And for that one,
it took them 4 days even to acknowledge that there WAS an outage. At the
moment, I'm collecting using the AIEO news server, but this seems to
have started playing tricks with my ability to send to different NGs.
Hence the test. Although all reports are welcome, those who don't like
it can lump it.
Also, FWIW, fellow refugees from Demon will probably find that Google
Groups also seem to be down. There are no NG postings for 4 Oct. The
whole of Usenet seems to be sliding into a black hole.
--
Ian
Ian Jackson
<gFOU...@tesco.net> writes
I think that you're suggesting that I embark on a TWoT. Anyway, this
might not be a Demon problem (well, not the current news server outage
problem). I'm trying to use AIEO, and it has suddenly started doing
funny things. As Google Groups are showing none of today's postings,
maybe AIEO is screwed too.
--
Ian
2CA001
> In message <lNudndE-56LaRXrV...@comcast.com>, 2CA001
> <cla...@comcast.net> writes
>> Ian Jackson wrote:
>>> In message <lNudndQ-56IpV3rV...@comcast.com>, 2CA001
>>> <cla...@comcast.net> writes
>>>> Ian Jackson wrote:
>>>>> I have a specific reason for testing posting to this NG.
>>>>> Please no comments about using a test NG.
>>>>
>>>> You sound way off frequency. You should be on alt.test :)
>>>
>>> I am having certain difficulties with posting follow-ups to this NG.
>>> I am having no difficulties with posting to alt.test.
>>> How would sending a test posting to alt.test would help me to resolve my
>>> difficulties in posting to uk.radio.amateur?
>>
>> Usenet is Usenet. If one group works, so should another. That sounds
>> like an ISP issue that you might need to take up with Demon.
>
> I say again, one more time for the benefit of those who can be bothered
> to read...
> I am having certain difficulties with posting follow-ups to this NG.
> I am having no difficulties with posting to alt.test.
And I'll say it one more time for those who seem to have difficulties
understanding....
Usenet is Usenet, if you can post to one group, the software at your end
is working. Other (non-Demon users) can place follow-ups to uk.r.a.
without any problem. Other Demon users have reported problems. Ergo,
it is a Demon problem so take it up with them.
> To this I can add (having made the above tests)...
> It appears that I don't seem to be having too much difficulty making
> posting new postings to this NG.
So, something is screwed in the Demon servers for follow-up posts as
other non-Demon users are not seeing this problem.
> However, sometimes I DO seem to be able to post follow-ups to this NG,
> but not every time.
Again, it is a Demon server that is having problems.
> All I'm trying to do is to find out what is presently working, and what
> isn't. That (believe it or not) is what real radio amateurs do.
Indeed and it is clear it is a Demon problem so take it up with them.
> Take it up with Demon? You have to be joking!
If you don't like the service, vote with your cheque book/direct debit!!
> The Demon news server went
> down for the second time about 30 minutes before they belatedly updated
> the status message about the previous 12 day outage. And for that one,
> it took them 4 days even to acknowledge that there WAS an outage.
So now you are saying the Demon servers have been/are having problems.
As I said, it's a Demon problem so take it up with them.
> At the
> moment, I'm collecting using the AIEO news server, but this seems to
> have started playing tricks with my ability to send to different NGs.
> Hence the test. Although all reports are welcome, those who don't like
> it can lump it.
You've determined it's d Demon problem, you've stated the Demon servers
have been/are having problems so why would you need to post any more
'test' messages?
> Also, FWIW, fellow refugees from Demon will probably find that Google
> Groups also seem to be down. There are no NG postings for 4 Oct. The
> whole of Usenet seems to be sliding into a black hole.
Google groups down? That is the first good thing I've heard!
Steve Terry
>
>
I've used AIEO, it is a 2nd rate back up at best.
BTW the aioe.cjb.net version is better
Try signing up for news.albasani.net easily currently the best free
newsserver
next best free newsserver is probably news.motzarella.org
or if you are willing to spend a few bob, Berlins individual.net
Steve Terry
Brian Howie
<ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> writes
The dreaded Demon newsswerver, and someone put the mockers on posting
through aioe.org ukra.
DIJ
--
Brian Howie
Jim.gm4dhj ...
> Jim's right about this digital stuff.
>
> Nick.
I know I am ...........
Ian Jackson
I'm afraid that I can only aspire to be like you - one of those rare,
gifted individuals who knows, with absolute certainty, how the world
works, and cannot tolerate the questioning of it by lesser mortals, like
me.
--
Ian
Jim.gm4dhj ...
> I am having certain difficulties with posting follow-ups to this NG.
> I am having no difficulties with posting to alt.test.
>
This type of thing used to drive me crazy...but now I just accept it is
DIGITAL and you cannot expect it to work properly...and all you are doing is
keeping a load of people on the gravy train for life .......
Slartibartfast
You are openly admitting off topic posting which is a contravention of your
ISP's terms & Conditions Of Use.
Thick or what?
Complaints-To: ab...@demon.net
"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:DLplFHGL...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...
Ian Jackson
<Slartib...@Norway-Coastline.net> writes
>
>
>
>"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:DLplFHGL...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...
>> I have a specific reason for testing posting to this NG.
>> Please no comments about using a test NG.
>> --
>Twat, if you know there are test newsgroups why not use one?
>
>You are openly admitting off topic posting which is a contravention of
>your ISP's terms & Conditions Of Use.
>
>Thick or what?
>
>Complaints-To: ab...@demon.net
OMG, yet another one who can't read (or maybe one who can read, but
knows better than I do about why I needed to test post to this NG) - and
a TOP-POSTER TOO!!!!!
Regarding being 'off-topic', which 'off-topic' would that be? It was
certainly 'on-topic' for me.
And finally, regarding 'Complaints-To: ab...@demon.net', the fact that I
dared to send a perfectly justified test post to uk.radio.amateur is
probably the least of Demon's concerns at the moment.
--
Ian.
Spike
Ian Jackson wrote:
Not the sharpest tool in the box, is he?
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from
Aero Spike
12 WPM Class A who passed after 12 years, 6 months and 17 attempts!
"Slartibartfast" <Slartib...@Norway-Coastline.net> wrote in message
news:gc9ppd$b7i$1...@registered.motzarella.org...
> Twat, if you know there are test newsgroups why not use one?
>
> You are openly admitting off topic posting which is a contravention of
> your ISP's terms & Conditions Of Use.
>
> Thick or what?
>
> Complaints-To: ab...@demon.net
>
>
Oh help a net copping b'tard....!
Ian Jackson
<g3...@despammed.com> writes
>On Sat, 4 Oct 2008 21:05:41 +0100, Ian Jackson
><ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>I am having certain difficulties with posting follow-ups to this NG.
>
>would not appear on the ng. I tried them both twice.
>
>73 de G3NYY
>
I've a sneaky feeling that something funny is happening in the internet
world. A couple of days after having been AWOL for 12 days, Demon's news
server (incoming) has packed up yet again. Google newsgroups are also
not showing anything since 3 Oct (but you can still post).
I'm trying taking news from AIEO but, after one day of using it, it too
stopped delivering news, and apparently stopping me from posting any
more. I did spot two recurring messages in my Demon Turnpike log file,
stating
Unexpected NEWS 5xx : 500 Too many rejected messages
Unexpected NEWS xxx :
It looks like I have upset AIEO somehow. I know that they do have limits
on usage etc, but I can't see what I have done to violate their Ts & Cs.
I have no idea what these 'Too many rejected messages' might be. Any
advice?
I do now notice that a trickle of incoming news (including Walt's above)
is beginning to appear. However, if things go on being so unreliable for
much longer, I reckon I'll have to switch on the rig, and become and
resume my rightful position as real on-the-air radio amateur.
--
Ian
Brian Howie
>world. A couple of days after having been AWOL for 12 days, Demon's
>news server (incoming) has packed up yet again. Google newsgroups are
>also not showing anything since 3 Oct (but you can still post).
>
>I'm trying taking news from AIEO but, after one day of using it, it too
>stopped delivering news, and apparently stopping me from posting any
>more. I did spot two recurring messages in my Demon Turnpike log file,
>stating
>Unexpected NEWS 5xx : 500 Too many rejected messages
>Unexpected NEWS xxx :
>It looks like I have upset AIEO somehow. I know that they do have
>limits on usage etc, but I can't see what I have done to violate their
>Ts & Cs. I have no idea what these 'Too many rejected messages' might
>be. Any advice?
>
>I do now notice that a trickle of incoming news (including Walt's
>above) is beginning to appear. However, if things go on being so
>unreliable for much longer, I reckon I'll have to switch on the rig,
>and become and resume my rightful position as real on-the-air radio
>amateur.
Posts to uk.radio.amateur by news.aieo.org have been blocked by
aieo.org. Someone on here took umbrage at some posts that came via their
server and complained. Bit of a nuisance because I have to use
news.aieo.org since demon is misbehaving.
I get :-
Sun, 5 Oct 2008 17:15:10 Unable to post news article : 441 Banlist
HTH Brian
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Brian Howie
Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI
Is your tone burst notching, and have you SWAAAARed your twig recently?
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73 de Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI - mine's a pint.
http://turner-smith.co.uk
Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI
>
> Also, FWIW, fellow refugees from Demon will probably find that Google
> Groups also seem to be down. There are no NG postings for 4 Oct. The whole
> of Usenet seems to be sliding into a black hole.
Are the gamma rays and yobba rays on? Is the scanner viewer working?
Jim.gm4dhj ...
> Are the gamma rays and yobba rays on? Is the scanner viewer working?
all is in order Captain......................
Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI
news:aquhe4pckau5m56kk...@4ax.com...
> On Sun, 5 Oct 2008 18:26:42 +0100, "Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI"
> <g3...@turner-smith.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>Is my tone burrrrrrst notching?
>
> © G3VAA ca. 1974
>
> 73 de Wlat
>
Name is Alll.ass..tairrr....Alpha... Lima......pip...pip...pip
Ian Jackson
<g3...@turner-smith.co.uk> writes
>"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:buuz8eQV...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...
>> In message <lNudndQ-56IpV3rV...@comcast.com>, 2CA001
>> <cla...@comcast.net> writes
>>>Ian Jackson wrote:
>>>> I have a specific reason for testing posting to this NG.
>>>> Please no comments about using a test NG.
>>>
>>>You sound way off frequency. You should be on alt.test :)
>>
>> I am having certain difficulties with posting follow-ups to this NG.
>> I am having no difficulties with posting to alt.test.
>> How would sending a test posting to alt.test would help me to resolve my
>> difficulties in posting to uk.radio.amateur?
>.
>Is your tone burst notching, and have you SWAAAARed your twig recently?
Toneburst is fully notched to 20dB below the noise floor.
Twig SWAAAAAAARed to 1.0000000000001 to 1, and greased with Tesco's
finest SWAAAAAAAR grease.
Both sidebands are fully suppressed, and deviation is optimised..
What more can I do to make things work?
--
Ian
Ian Jackson
<br...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
Where do you get that message? I think that explains a lot. Starting
yesterday at Sat, 4 Oct 2008 14:11:05 +0100, I've had a three 'Article
Disposition Notifications' sent to my email inbox by Demon's
Turnpike_NNTP_Client. [I can't recall ever having these before.] These
all start:
Your article could not be posted
Talking to nntp.aioe.org on Sat, 4 Oct 2008 14:11:05 +0100
>>>
<<< 441
A 'hidden' Message Delivery Status notice follows, and includes:
Action: failed
Status: 5.0.0
Remote-MTA: dns; nntp.aioe.org
Diagnostic-Code: nntp; 441
It would seem that that this is the same thing as you have.
All three messages refer to postings to uk.radio.amateur, which probably
(and justifies) explains the reason why I made a test posting
specifically in this NG, and not one of the Test NGs.
Do you have any further info on the blocking, and why?
--
Ian
Brian Howie
<ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> writes
>>
The message was in the Turnpike log. I'd posted successfully to other
groups so I looked on the aioe website and found :-
http://news.aioe.org/webnews.php?zz=x&tipo=thread.php&group=aioe.news.hel
pdesk&first=151&last=300
if that wraps round
look at localgroups helpdesk page 2
The thread starting 09.07
Brian
--
Brian Howie
Ian Jackson
<br...@nospam.demon.co.uk> writes
Thanks. I've quickly looked through it. [I'll also have a look at my TP
log.]
We seemed go get banned by AIOE in July (I think I recall this being
said in UKRA), but then got reinstated. I didn't see anything about
being banned again.
AIOE seem keen to ban whole NGs if someone complains about a few
individuals who misbehave themselves. Maybe another news server would be
a better bet. Of course, if Demon would pull its finger out and fix
their problems (or, at least, let us customers know the true state of
play), we wouldn't have to faff around looking for alternatives.
--
Ian
Steve Terry
>
> would not appear on the ng. I tried them both twice.
> 73 de G3NYY
>
>
news.albasani.net has been completely reliable
Steve Terry
Steve Terry
> In message <gc9ppd$b7i$1...@registered.motzarella.org>, Slartibartfast
> <Slartib...@Norway-Coastline.net> writes
>>"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:DLplFHGL...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...
>>> I have a specific reason for testing posting to this NG.
>>> Please no comments about using a test NG.
>
>>You are openly admitting off topic posting which is a contravention of
>>your ISP's terms & Conditions Of Use.
>>Thick or what?
>>Complaints-To: ab...@demon.net
>
> OMG, yet another one who can't read (or maybe one who can read, but knows
> better than I do about why I needed to test post to this NG) - and a
> TOP-POSTER TOO!!!!!
>
>
you already know, and that is that you are an arsehole for testing on a NG
when you know it's your ISPs newsserver at fault
Steve Terry
Ian Jackson
<gFOU...@tesco.net> writes
>Indeed! No need to bother your ISP when all is needed is to tell you what
>you already know, and that is that you are an arsehole for testing on a NG
>when you know it's your ISPs newsserver at fault
>
>Steve Terry
>
explained the reason for test posting in uk.r.a. However, you still
don't seem to have understood why.
You obviously know that Demon is totally down for incoming news
(although sending is OK). They seem to have given up trying to fix the
problem, and also abandoned any pretence of keeping the customer
informed.
Obviously, I am seriously considering permanently using a different news
service (and eventually, a different ISP). If I want binaries, it looks
as if I will have to pay for it. In the meantime, I've started using
AIOE, which is free.
Unfortunately, it appears that while I am able to post OK to some NGs
using AIOE, for I others (including uk.r.a) I have to switch back to
Demon. The only way to find out what the problem was to test post in the
relevant NGs.
Do you really have a problem with this? If so, what alternative course
of action do you suggest I should have adopted?
--
Ian
Brian Reay
"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:nQhcDBDj...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...
>
> Do you really have a problem with this? If so, what alternative course of
> action do you suggest I should have adopted?
Ian, just ignore Steve.
--
73
Brian, G8OSN
www.g8osn.org.uk
Steve Terry
that they block uk.r.a.
That's when it's working at all!
Try signing up for free news.albasani.net or news.motzarella.org
As you say for binaries you'll have to pay for a quality newserver
Steve Terry
Ian Jackson
As I said "In the meantime...."
When I did my test posting, I was unaware that AIOE was still blocking
posts to uk.r.a (and possibly some others). Total recall and
clairvoyance aren't my strong points these days.
>That's when it's working at all!
It hasn't packed up in the past few days.
>
>Try signing up for free news.albasani.net or news.motzarella.org
Could have done, but with AIOE, you simply add the name of the news
server to your list, and select it in the news configuration (no
registration necessary).
>
>As you say for binaries you'll have to pay for a quality newserver
I used to have one. It was called Demon!
>
--
Ian
Steve Terry
> In message <gclrss$qrg$1...@news.albasani.net>, Steve Terry
> <gFOU...@tesco.net> writes
>>
>>"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:nQhcDBDj...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...
>
>>> In message <gcloc4$mgo$1...@news.albasani.net>, Steve Terry
>>> <gFOU...@tesco.net> writes
>>Try signing up for free news.albasani.net or news.motzarella.org
>
> Could have done, but with AIOE, you simply add the name of the news server
> to your list, and select it in the news configuration (no registration
> necessary).
>
Steve Terry
Ian Jackson
>"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:iA8dXeGW...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...
>> In message <gclrss$qrg$1...@news.albasani.net>, Steve Terry
>> <gFOU...@tesco.net> writes
>>>
>>>"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>news:nQhcDBDj...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...
>>
>>>> In message <gcloc4$mgo$1...@news.albasani.net>, Steve Terry
>>>> <gFOU...@tesco.net> writes
><snip>
>>>Try signing up for free news.albasani.net or news.motzarella.org
>>
>> Could have done, but with AIOE, you simply add the name of the news server
>> to your list, and select it in the news configuration (no registration
>> necessary).
>>
>Try investing 5 minutes of your valuable time in registering instead
>
>Steve Terry
>
--
Ian
Ian Jackson
<s...@website.invalid> writes
>
>
>"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:nQhcDBDj...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...
> >
>> Do you really have a problem with this? If so, what alternative course of
>> action do you suggest I should have adopted?
>
>Ian, just ignore Steve.
>
their ways, and to redirect them back to the path of knowledge and
righteousness.
--
Ian
2CA001
Yet you couldn't see the error of your ways when you posted a test
message here.....
Ian Jackson
<cla...@comcast.net> writes
It's a pity that you still don't seem to understand why I made the test
posting. As I said in my first reply to you:
"I am having certain difficulties with posting follow-ups to this NG.
I am having no difficulties with posting to alt.test.
How would sending a test posting to alt.test would help me to resolve my
difficulties in posting to uk.radio.amateur?"
If you did answer my question, I must have missed it. My apologies.
But compared with some of the stuff posted in this NG, some may consider
that words such as "Test - ignore" make relatively interesting reading.
--
Ian
2CA001
> In message <rfqdnVAalPFuFHPV...@comcast.com>, 2CA001
> <cla...@comcast.net> writes
>> Ian Jackson wrote:
>>> In message <jhuHk.13518$I31....@newsfe24.ams2>, Brian Reay
>>> <s...@website.invalid> writes
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> "Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:nQhcDBDj...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...
>>>> >
>>>>> Do you really have a problem with this? If so, what alternative
>>>>> course of
>>>>> action do you suggest I should have adopted?
>>>>
>>>> Ian, just ignore Steve.
>>>>
>>> Sadly, it has been my lot in life to point out to others the errors of
>>> their ways, and to redirect them back to the path of knowledge and
>>> righteousness.
>>
>> Yet you couldn't see the error of your ways when you posted a test
>> message here.....
>
> It's a pity that you still don't seem to understand why I made the test
> posting. As I said in my first reply to you:
>
> "I am having certain difficulties with posting follow-ups to this NG.
> I am having no difficulties with posting to alt.test.
> How would sending a test posting to alt.test would help me to resolve my
> difficulties in posting to uk.radio.amateur?"
>
> If you did answer my question, I must have missed it. My apologies.
I don't think you did miss it as you replied to the message where I said
"Usenet is Usenet, if you can post to one group, the software at your end
is working. Other (non-Demon users) can place follow-ups to uk.r.a.
without any problem. Other Demon users have reported problems. Ergo,
it is a Demon problem so take it up with them."
and
"You've determined it's d Demon problem, you've stated the Demon servers
have been/are having problems so why would you need to post any more
'test' messages?"
Brian Reay
"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:jcrdgbJL...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...
Me to ;-)
Ian Jackson
You STILL don't get it, do you?
Are you possibly one of this new breed of radio amateurs who object when
someone puts out a call asking for a 'rig check' etc?
Maybe I lost count, but I only recall posting ONE test message which
made it to uk.r.a. The other one didn't (well, I didn't see it).
Demon incoming news is in the 'dead parrot' category.
Demon outgoing news is working OK.
For the time being I switched to AIOE, but found that AIOE blocks my
posts to uk.r.a (for reasons since explained to me).
So...
Until I get things better organised,
I'm using AIOE for receiving.
I'm using Demon for transmitting.
You know it makes sense.
--
Ian
Ian Jackson
luc...@eternal-flames.gov writes
>On Thu, 9 Oct 2008 23:33:47 +0100, Ian Jackson
><ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>
>>Sadly, it has been my lot in life to point out to others the errors of
>>their ways, and to redirect them back to the path of knowledge and
>>righteousness.
>
>
>Nick.
Bishops? Maybe. Generally of the same faith but, on some subjects at
least, of different denominations, and preaching somewhat different
gospels.
--
Ian
1LVN
<luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
news:i32ue41ls00ei6seo...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:19:48 +0100, Ian Jackson
> <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>You STILL don't get it, do you?
>>Are you possibly one of this new breed of radio amateurs who object when
>>someone puts out a call asking for a 'rig check' etc?
>
> likely to be asking for something quite as meaningless as a "rig
> check"
>
For a bit of fun you can wind down your rf gain. If I can still hear them I
go back to them QRO. You can bet a pound to a penny they'll be back on the
band after a couple of days on ebay, running a killowatt.
Steve Terry
> In message <XLKdnfcFypT1CHPV...@comcast.com>, 2CA001
> <cla...@comcast.net> writes
>>Ian Jackson wrote:
>>> In message <rfqdnVAalPFuFHPV...@comcast.com>, 2CA001
>>> <cla...@comcast.net> writes
>>>> Ian Jackson wrote:
>>>>> In message <jhuHk.13518$I31....@newsfe24.ams2>, Brian Reay
>>>>> <s...@website.invalid> writes
>>>>>> "Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in
>>>>>> message
>>>>>> news:nQhcDBDj...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...
> So...
> Until I get things better organised,
> I'm using AIOE for receiving.
> I'm using Demon for transmitting.
> You know it makes sense.
>
That line up has to be the biggest recipe for Usenet disaster i could ever
imagine
Steve Terry
Steve Terry
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:47:03 +0100, luc...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:
>
>>We've got one bleedin' bishop, Nobody needs _TWO_
>
> He doesn't look a bit like Brian!
> ;-)
> 73 de WlatApart from being Black, he seems just as pompous as Brian
You put an African in a skirt, call him his Holiness, and the next thing
you know he thinks he's as important as Brian!
Steve Terry
Steve Terry
news:dk2ue4tp3s6dsgbjp...@4ax.com...
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 08:34:25 +0100, Walt Davidson
> <g3...@despammed.com> wrote:
>
>>The Bishop of Rochester was on BBC1 Question Time last night.
>>He doesn't look a bit like Brian!
>>;-)
>>
>>73 de Wlat
>
> Nick.
>
Euurrr... and I'd only just got the thought of Brians breeding in a field
out of my mind ;-p
Steve Terry
Steve Terry
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:07:13 +0100, "Steve Terry" <gFOU...@tesco.net>
> wrote:
>
>>Apart from being Black, he seems just as pompous as Brian
>>
>>You put an African in a skirt, call him his Holiness, and the next thing
>>you know he thinks he's as important as Brian!
>
and punched the pompous twats lights out instead.
Steve Terry
Steve Terry
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:16:13 +0100, "Steve Terry" <gFOU...@tesco.net>
> wrote:
>
>>>>Apart from being Black, he seems just as pompous as Brian
>>>>You put an African in a skirt, call him his Holiness, and the next thing
>>>>you know he thinks he's as important as Brian!
>>>
>>> I thought Jonathan Dimbleby was rather rude to him, actually.
>>> 73 de Wlat
>>>
>>and punched the pompous twats lights out instead.
>
> he is of Pakistani origin.I didn't realise that, i guess i'm over influenced by the number of African
Bible bashers staying at the YMCA on council tax payers housing support
benefit, trying to convert anyone to the word of god around these parts?
Steve Terry
Graham W
> On Fri, 10 Oct 2008 20:16:13 +0100, "Steve Terry" <gFOU...@tesco.net>
> wrote:
>
>>>>Apart from being Black, he seems just as pompous as Brian
>>>>
>>>>You put an African in a skirt, call him his Holiness, and the next thing
>>>>you know he thinks he's as important as Brian!
>>>
>>> I thought Jonathan Dimbleby was rather rude to him, actually.
>>> 73 de Wlat
>>>
>>and punched the pompous twats lights out instead.
>
> he is of Pakistani origin.
Isn't a Bishop known as a Right Reverend or some such?
73s
Graham W
Jim.gm4dhj ...
> The Bishop of Rochester was on BBC1 Question Time last night.
> He doesn't look a bit like Brian!
> ;-)
>
> 73 de Wlat
>
as Brians friend would say "the pakis are taking over"
Jim.gm4dhj ...
> But had he kissed Brian's ring?
>
> Nick.
very much NOT bona
z...@class-a-licensee-12wpm.ie
wrote:
>
>
>"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:nQhcDBDj...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...
> >
>> Do you really have a problem with this? If so, what alternative course of
>> action do you suggest I should have adopted?
>
>Ian, just ignore Steve.
Ian, just ignore Brian.
Ian Jackson
writes
--
Ian