Snow is it ? .......
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
Steve Terry
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>A wee bit of snow and Englandshire is in K-OSS....
>
this lot will let anyone in.
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Catweazel
> "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..." <jim.gm4...@googlemail.com> wrote in messagenews:hgf8m8$9ne$1...@news.eternal-september.org...>A wee bit of snow and Englandshire is in K-OSS....
>
> The previous Gov had deported it all north of the border,
> this lot will let anyone in.
>
Brian Howie
<jim.g...@googlemail.com> writes
>A wee bit of snow and Englandshire is in K-OSS....
>
>
Hope it's OK in the West , I'll be in the near of Troon today -won't be
taking the wireless with me.
Brian DIJ
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Catweazel
> In message <hgf8m8$9n...@news.eternal-september.org>, Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
> <jim.gm4...@googlemail.com> writes>A wee bit of snow and Englandshire is in K-OSS....
>
> Some in Edinburgh, the Pentland Hills look cool .
>
Indeedy it's a fine view from the Holiday Inn's breakfast room,
seeing the white on the tops out there, but none in the toon.
RobertM
> A wee bit of snow and Englandshire is in K-OSS....
>
>
Makes me glad I work from home!!!!!
Robert G4PYR
Brian Howie
<4832ab55-c3a0-4990...@m16g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>,
Catweazel <francis...@iee.org> writes
You're not far from me. I'm about 1/2 mile west up the hill. Above the
snow line lol.
B
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Ian Jackson
<g4...@coastalradio.invalid> writes
countryside very pretty. I love snow!
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Steve Terry
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>
>
It is a snowing ear also, GLK London
Brian Reay
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Lots here but term finished yesterday so not a problem.
A chance to use the 4x4 as well.
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Brian G8OSN/W8OSN
www.g8osn.net
Len GM0ONX
Popular misconception it almost never snows in this part of the world.
If we see 4" (total)of snow a year its been a hard winter!
David
wrote:
>Popular misconception it almost never snows in this part of the world.
>If we see 4" (total)of snow a year its been a hard winter!
Bloody southerners :-)
Dave
Dave Liquorice
>> Popular misconception it almost never snows in this part of the
world.
>> If we see 4" (total)of snow a year its been a hard winter!
>
> Bloody southerners :-)
Quite, 4' (total) of snow a year would be a lot but wouldn't
necessarily mean a hard winter that is more down to the temperature.
A week or longer of day time maximums below freezing starts to become
a hard winter.
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David
Dave
On the scale of me calling Len a southerner makes a Cumbrian almost French ;-)
Dave
@uk.radio.amateur Van Ausfahrt
"Brian Reay" <seewe...@invalid.com> wrote in message
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> "RobertM" <g4...@coastalradio.invalid> wrote in message
> news:hgfdkc$d2f$1...@news.eternal-september.org...
>> On 18/12/2009 06:49, Jimbo GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>> A wee bit of snow and Englandshire is in K-OSS....
>>>
>>>
>> A couple of inches in Peterborough.
>>
>> Makes me glad I work from home!!!!!
>
> Lots here but term finished yesterday so not a problem.
Those than can, do - those that can't, teach!
twi...@way.com
<g4...@coastalradio.invalid> wrote:
>A couple of inches in Peterborough.
and a couple of inches in Kent, but that's just Brian.
@uk.radio.amateur Van Ausfahrt
<twi...@way.com> wrote in message
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May be just a couple of inches, but it may be enough to fill a pram!
Len GM0ONX
Ah if you further South its a different matter they get much more snow! :-)
Len GM0ONX
I stay in the south west of Scotland so its not inaccurate to call me a
southerner. Its all in the telling! :-)
JC Morrice
<vanau...@uk.radio.amateur> writes
>Those than can, do - those that can't, teach!
... and those that can't teach, examine!
John
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Dave Liquorice
>> Those than can, do - those that can't, teach!
> .... and those that can't teach, examine!
Naw, those that can't, manage.
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Dave.
Brian Howie
<gm0...@goooooglemail.com> writes
It was snowing today over there briefly, but grant you the Ayrshire
Coast is generally snow-free.
Brian
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Len GM0ONX
A dusting that's all. Tomorrow night looks as if it will be a bit more!
However if you head for the Cumnock/Muirkirk area or the Fenwick Moors
that's a different matter, it snows in July in those places.
Peter G3PHO
Peter G3PHO
>
> It was snowing today over there briefly, but grant you the Ayrshire
> Coast is generally snow-free.
>
> Brian
It once snowed on me in MAY on the summit of Cairnsmore of
Cairsphairn... that's in "snow free" SW Scotland :-)
73
Peter G3PHO
Len GM0ONX
Oh SW Scotland gets snow alright just not this bit. You can draw a 15
mile arc around Ayr and that bit never gets much snow. I have itlerally
seen 6 foot snow snow drifts on the A77 10 miles north of hear and next
to nothing in Kilmarnock, and apsolutely nothing in Ayr.
Len GM0ONX
> Peter G3PHO wrote:
>> Brian Howie wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> It was snowing today over there briefly, but grant you the Ayrshire
>>> Coast is generally snow-free.
>>>
>>> Brian
>>
>> It once snowed on me in MAY on the summit of Cairnsmore of
>> Cairsphairn... that's in "snow free" SW Scotland :-)
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Peter G3PHO
>
Oh SW Scotland gets snow alright just not this bit. You can draw a 15
mile arc around Ayr and that bit never gets much snow. I have literally
seen 6 foot snow drifts on the A77 10 miles north of hear and next
to nothing in Kilmarnock, and absolutely nothing in Ayr.
Paul Starship
<seewe...@invalid.com> wrote:
>A chance to use the 4x4 as well.
which of course is (_TWO_ BY _TWO_) X (_TWO_ BY _TWO_)
Dave
> A wee bit of snow and Englandshire is in K-OSS....
We had that in the North West of England, it wasn't a problem. Mind you,
we are used to it just like up there :-)
It's those lucky Southerners that get all the sun in spring, summer and
autumn that bleat the most.
Just got back at 22-15 from a round trip to Portsmouth and the only
problem I found was a burned out wagon on the M6 Southbound that slowed
everything down, due to the rubber neckers, making it *very* difficult
to get out of first gear until we passed the sight. I felt sorry for the
South bound traffic though, lots of them had just parked up with lights
out and waited for the multitude of recovery wagons to shift the debris.
Dave
Snow? I was brought up on it, in the Pennines.
Dave
West coast?
Dave
Dave
I rather like that answer :-)
Dave another one
Dave
That reminds me of my short time working at Prestwick airport. It must
be the only airport that never gets fog bound, due to the wind that
comes in there :-)
Dave
Dave
That's my recollection of taking a coach trip, many years ago, to the
Lake district. Within half an hour it baked us with the sun through the
coach window and threw so much rain down, the driver had to slow down
and then it changed to hail stones that rattled the windows.
Dave
Dave
That'll be the Gulf stream. I once walked down the main road of Fort
William in early September with my cotton jacked slung over my shoulder
because I was so warm. Happy memories.
Dave
Jimbo ...
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Oban is MUCH better...I hate Fort William ..........
Richard G3CWI
> This snow should really test Walt's commitment to SOTA :-)
There's a new Walt out there Peter. He is doing all sorts of surprising
things. ...but he is doing them.
What has happened to your long-trailed return to lightweight portable on
10G (as frequently advocated by the editor of Scatterpoint)?
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>Christmas as guests of Padraig.
aha!
was wondering where you were.
over checking out hoose-prices again ?
luc...@eternal-flames.gov
No. Already have one... Just looking at the potential for trade.
Nick.
brian
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>
> It was snowing today over there briefly, but grant you the Ayrshire Coast
> is generally snow-free.
And I took M3OSN to be the group's resident Ayr soul!
Len GM0ONX
Yep! 9 miles inland, further west plenty of snow but here very little.
Len GM0ONX
Is this posting available in English?
Yeti
> A wee bit of snow and Englandshire is in K-OSS....
>
>
I think it's hilarious - the slightest bit of snow soon shows up how bad
a lot of English drivers are - they're on the news sliding about
everywhere wheelspinning like mad.
DieSea
"brian" <brian...@mental.invalid> wrote in message
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They have _TWO_ resident Ayr souls there
Both ( Senior Members ?? ) Members of the _Good_ Breakers_ Club
_Brian_ and then there's _Len_
Have a happy Christmas all ,
( With Exceptions of course )
DieSea
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
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speshly the wumin .... just as well they all have FWD or they would never
manage.....
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
Yeti
Tell that to Navy 177 - it had to land at Crosshouse hospital the other
day due to fog at EGPK - and they had to send a bowser out to Crosshouse
to refual the helicopter too.
Yeti
Read it out loud, preferably with a Glasgow accent - you'll get it then.
Yeti
You want fun? Wait until it's -2.5 degrees and send an 18 year old girl
out in an old transit...
Jimbo ...
wumin just don't have the grasp.......
Len GM0ONX
That does make the difference, an' that!!
luc...@eternal-flames.gov
<jim.g...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>wumin just don't have the grasp.......
>
Depends what they're grasping.
Brian Howie
<ye...@ayrshore.com> writes
A butcher is standing in front of a wee heater in his shop in Glasgow,
when a customer comes in. "Is that yer Ayrshire bacon?" she asks. "Naw,
it's ma hauns"
B
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Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
Arsehole...brian ... Right!!!
Yeti
Ah dunno, naw?
Dave
> Dave wrote:
>> That reminds me of my short time working at Prestwick airport. It must
>> be the only airport that never gets fog bound, due to the wind that
>> comes in there :-)
>>
>> Dave
>
> Tell that to Navy 177 - it had to land at Crosshouse hospital the other
> day due to fog at EGPK - and they had to send a bowser out to Crosshouse
> to refual the helicopter too.
Well, it's not that often we get such a still weather, high QFE over the
UK, so I can understand that. It happens.
Dave
Dave
On the way up from Pompey last night I was listening to someone saying
that low profile tyres do not perform well in snow. Any ideas Jim? As I
know you are a car lover.
Dave
Dave
> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 13:23:02 +0000, Walt Davidson
> <g3...@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 12:00:20 -0000, "Jimbo GM4DHJ ..."
>> <jim.g...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> apart from M3OSN who needs a 4x4 to venture out in the snow........
>>
>> 73 de Wlat
>
> That'd be an 8x8... 8 wheels... Hmmm... Roller-skates!
> How appropriate for a damned CBer.
>
> Nick/EI
Just took a look at the header and I see you are using eternal
september. Is it difficult to set up?
Dave
Dave
What, the rear wheel drive one. They were useless on snow and ice until
you put enough ballast in the back.
Dave
Dave
We have a local Spar shop run by an Asian couple, good looking as she
is, I wouldn't let her grasp anything of mine. She has rougher hands
than a builder. :-(
Dave
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
"Dave" <dave...@btopenworld.com> wrote in message
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If I can do it .........
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
no idea..I refuse to buy a car with lower than 65 profile ......
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
...and used to hard work unlike the British wumin.......
luc...@eternal-flames.gov
wrote:
>Just took a look at the header and I see you are using eternal
>september. Is it difficult to set up?
>
>Dave
No. I set it up and tried it a couple of weeks back, from home.
Here. I just plugged the laptop in, connected to the net and away it
went.
Nick.
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
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Ian Jackson
<jim.g...@googlemail.com> writes
I'm using Demon's 'Turnpike', but the procedure is probably the same for
other news readers. If I remember correctly, you just register with E-S,
add the name of their news server to your list of available news
servers, and make it active. You also have to go to your newsgroup
configuration, and set E-S as the server for each newsgroup (singly or
collectively, as you prefer).
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Yeti
Complete bullshit - low profile tyres shouldn't make any difference in
snow - although the lower sidewall helps in cornering as there is less
sidewalla flex.
luc...@eternal-flames.gov
<jim.g...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>who use there nice soft hands when they stoop to prostitution ..........
>
Nahhh...
They only need to stoop, if the customer is a bleedin' dwarf.
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
better with a good set of Groundhogs ........
Ian Jackson
<ye...@ayrshore.com> writes
>Dave wrote:
>> Jimbo GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>> "Yeti" <ye...@ayrshore.com> wrote in message
>>>news:hgidjo$1c3$2...@news.eternal-september.org...
>>>> Jimbo GM4DHJ ... wrote:
>>>>> A wee bit of snow and Englandshire is in K-OSS....
>>>> I think it's hilarious - the slightest bit of snow soon shows up
>>>>how bad a lot of English drivers are - they're on the news sliding
>>>
>>> speshly the wumin .... just as well they all have FWD or they would
>>>never manage.....
>> On the way up from Pompey last night I was listening to someone
>>saying that low profile tyres do not perform well in snow. Any ideas
>>Jim? As I know you are a car lover.
>> Dave
>
>Complete bullshit - low profile tyres shouldn't make any difference in
>snow - although the lower sidewall helps in cornering as there is less
>sidewalla flex.
My first car - an 1954 93(?)E 1172cc sidevalve Ford Prefect - had little
trouble with up to about 9" of snow. I remember that the wheels were 15"
diameter (not the 16" that the Popular had), but I forget the width.
However, the tyres were definitely narrower than the present-day tyres
(say 155 x 13) and dug better through the snow. The modern, wider tyres
tend to 'toboggan' over the snow, instead of ploughing through it.
--
Ian
Steve Terry
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> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 19:33:12 +0000, Brian Morrison <b...@fenrir.org.uk>
> wrote:
>
>>Careful Walt, DX Clusters can only be just round the next corner!
>
> He probably takes a cushion to sit on.
> Nick.
>
>
I've a tube of ointment for it
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> My first car - an 1954 93(?)E 1172cc sidevalve Ford Prefect...
LOL! My dad had one of those from new, 3 speed box, reverse where first
normally is, vacuum operated wipers that stopped when you went up hill,
sideways suspension that made any corner an unforgetable experience,
KWALITY!
I KnacKered the clutch on it learning to drive in 1967, think that's the
only problem we ever had with it.
They don't make cars like that any more.
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Len GM0ONX
Low profile tyres tend in general to be wider and that's the problem in
the snow.
Yeti
But that has to do with the width of the tyre, not the profile.
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
> normally is, vacuum operated wipers that stopped when you went up hill,
I had a '62 Thames panel van with those as you slowed down on over run they
speeded up! kOOL....ALL THE BRAKE FLUID LEAKED OUT ONE DAY AND i HAD no
BRAKES ...NOT SO COOL ......
Yeti
True - but the problem is the width, not the profile.
Bigger problem is councils not bothering to grit the roads...
Yeti
>> normally is, vacuum operated wipers that stopped when you went up hill,
>
> I had a '62 Thames panel van with those as you slowed down on over run they
> speeded up!
they wouldn't be much use on diesels...
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
Ian Jackson
G3VKI <g3...@turner-smith.co.uk> writes
>"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:uXGgkJCp...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...
>> My first car - an 1954 93(?)E 1172cc sidevalve Ford Prefect...
>
>LOL! My dad had one of those from new, 3 speed box, reverse where first
>normally is, vacuum operated wipers that stopped when you went up hill,
>sideways suspension that made any corner an unforgetable experience,
>KWALITY!
>I KnacKered the clutch on it learning to drive in 1967, think that's
>the only problem we ever had with it.
>They don't make cars like that any more.
Surely it had the "jumping-out-of-second-gear when -accelerating" fault?
Mine started off as the family car, but was 'bequeathed' to me in early
1964. The second gear was already jumping out, so my father and a family
friend replaced it with another which they had acquired from somewhere.
About six months later, it too started jumping out of 2nd. It's
something I learned to live with, and a well placed left foot was often
employed when both hands were needed on the wheel.
The vacuum wipers weren't too bad. Going uphill, they seemed to work
better when the vacuum was allowed to leak a little (but not fully
pulling out the knob).
No synchromesh on 1st gear, of course (and a bit iffy on 2nd). I soon
mastered effortless double-declutching - a skill which has stood me in
good stead ever since.
I had lots of memorable QSOs on 160 and 80m (AM) from that car, with a
homebrew TX sitting on top of an R109 receiver - a jam-fit in the rear
foot-well, behind the front passenger seat. The speaker was mounted on
the driver-side sun visor - which helped a lot to make the receiver
audible above the engine noise. A 6V vibrator pack (for the TX only -
the RX had its own, internally) was snug fit in the
thoughtfully-provided toolbox compartment located to the rear of the
engine. The aerial was an 8' centre-loaded whip on the rear bumper.
Handsfree Carbon) mic, of course. KWALITY indeed.
--
Ian
Ian Jackson
<jim.g...@googlemail.com> writes
>
brakes - and very effective they were too - provided you maintained them
properly.
--
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Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
> I had lots of memorable QSOs on 160 and 80m (AM) from that car, with a
> homebrew TX sitting on top of an R109 receiver - a jam-fit in the rear
> foot-well, behind the front passenger seat. The speaker was mounted on the
> driver-side sun visor - which helped a lot to make the receiver audible
> above the engine noise. A 6V vibrator pack (for the TX only - the RX had
> its own, internally) was snug fit in the thoughtfully-provided toolbox
> compartment located to the rear of the engine. The aerial was an 8'
> centre-loaded whip on the rear bumper. Handsfree Carbon) mic, of course.
> KWALITY indeed.
An 817 solves all that ........
Len GM0ONX
Yeh but no about of grit on the road will work when it rains and washes
it away and then refreezes like today! Roads Weather forecast wrong
AGAIN! Anyone know were we can get a reliable length of seaweed?
Dave
> <luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
> news:6saqi5dmuhei71v1p...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 19:33:12 +0000, Brian Morrison <b...@fenrir.org.uk>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Careful Walt, DX Clusters can only be just round the next corner!
>> He probably takes a cushion to sit on.
>> Nick.
>>
>>
> I've a tube of ointment for it
So do you suffer from the complaint?
Dave
Dave
Oh, thanks for that. I'll take a look am on a lap top I have, just to
make sure my ISP is not getting in the way.
Dave
Dave
Thanks. I'll get the lap top out of the boot and try it am.
For those who are wondering why it lives in the boot, it is suffering
car vibrations to find out WTF is wrong with it.
Dave
Dave
What, harder than a builder?
Dave
Dave
Are they Indian tyres with 'sidewalla' flex :-)
Dave
Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI
> In message <ITaXm.82384$QH6....@newsfe28.ams2>, Frank Turner-Smith G3VKI
> <g3...@turner-smith.co.uk> writes
>>"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:uXGgkJCp...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...
>>> My first car - an 1954 93(?)E 1172cc sidevalve Ford Prefect...
>>
>>LOL! My dad had one of those from new, 3 speed box, reverse where first
>>normally is, vacuum operated wipers that stopped when you went up hill,
>>I KnacKered the clutch on it learning to drive in 1967, think that's the
>>only problem we ever had with it.
>>They don't make cars like that any more.
>
> Surely it had the "jumping-out-of-second-gear when -accelerating" fault?
>
that car. Maybe the examiner took pity on me.
The 6 volt system deterred me from operating /M in that car, and I'd
forgotten the rod operated brakes.
The next car, (1961 Ford Anglia 105E, the first of my own) had to be held in
any gear; that made using a hand mike interesting. Happy days.
Yeti
No, just a typo.
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
...it's DIGITAL .... nothing you can do about that...
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
builders don't work very hard....
Ian Jackson
>"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:ghrD5+He...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...
>> In message <ITaXm.82384$QH6....@newsfe28.ams2>, Frank Turner-Smith
>>G3VKI <g3...@turner-smith.co.uk> writes
>>>"Ian Jackson" <ianREMOVET...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk> wrote in
>>>message news:uXGgkJCp...@g3ohx.demon.co.uk...
>>>> My first car - an 1954 93(?)E 1172cc sidevalve Ford Prefect...
>>>
>>>LOL! My dad had one of those from new, 3 speed box, reverse where
>>>first normally is, vacuum operated wipers that stopped when you went
>>>up hill, sideways suspension that made any corner an unforgettable
>>>experience, KWALITY!
>>>I KnacKered the clutch on it learning to drive in 1967, think that's
>>>the only problem we ever had with it.
>>>They don't make cars like that any more.
>>
>> Surely it had the "jumping-out-of-second-gear when -accelerating" fault?
>>
>You're right, it did, but I sat (and passed first go) my driving test
>in that car. Maybe the examiner took pity on me.
>The 6 volt system deterred me from operating /M in that car, and I'd
>forgotten the rod operated brakes.
>The next car, (1961 Ford Anglia 105E, the first of my own) had to be
>held in any gear; that made using a hand mike interesting. Happy days.
My father taught me the basics of driving in the Prefect (when it was
still the family car). It was a 'Honey Beige' in colour, reg. no. HSG
872, identical to the model here:
http://www.philseed.com/fordprefect49.html
As my father had never actually taken a driving test himself, I took six
driving lessons (and the driving test, which I too passed first time) in
an Anglia - a MUCH nicer car!
The 6V system was no problem. By chance, at the time, there was, on the
surplus market, a 6V vibrator pack intended for the AR88. It was perfect
for the job. Also, the 'lightweight' R109 receiver was available, and it
had its own internal 6V vibrator supply.
http://www.radiomilitari.com/r109.html
The valves had directly heated cathodes, so warm up was almost instant.
Going from transmit to receive entailed killing the 6V to the TX
vibrator. This killed the TX 280V HT. A relay across the TX HT supply
dropped out, and applied 6V to the RX, which was up and running in less
than a second. Cunning, eh?!
I bought an additional 6V battery. Again, at the time (again on the
surplus market) there were available dry-charged vehicle batteries. Mine
was a large one - 100AH I think (6V of course, hence x2 AH rating
compared with 12V). I rarely ran the gear off the battery in the engine
compartment. Instead, I ran it off the 'spare' battery in the boot
which, to avoid generator (and other noise) problems, was not floated
across the 'engine' battery. When it showed signs of getting flat, I
would exchange the boot battery for the engine battery. If it was just a
bit flat - not a serious problem, as the car had a starting handle. If
it was really REALLY flat (which it certainly was after I accidentally
left the TX heaters on for over a week), it was a drive to the top of a
hill, swap the batteries, and do a rolling bump start down the hill!
Happy days.....
--
Ian