Ping G3CWI RE Fleamarket Scammers
Mike Hunt
addresses and offering non existent radio equipment to "wanted " ads.
I personally, dont give my email address when using the site but only my
mobile no.
May I suggest that you post a banner or similar at the top of the page
instead of the ludicrous advertisments, warning people of the scammers,
and not to use email addresses as contact options.
Also advise them not to give their email addressed on a public, open site.
As you are aware of it for a good while now, and have done nothing to
address it, many others I have spoken to will not use it any longer.
As it is so obviously an indirect advertising tool for your SOTA
products, I assume that you will lose hits and revenue.
It would not take any great effort to post a prominent, sticky type
warning for trusting, gullible folk . Or have you got your head firmly
wedged in your wallet.
A decent, elderly licencee I know has been taken for �230 as a direct
result of posting a wanted ad on your site.
Time you did something about it.
Richard G3CWI
> Richard, I am sure you are aware of the scammers harvesting email
> addresses and offering non existent radio equipment to "wanted " ads.
Most teenagers will already know how to use the internet safely. If you
do not can I suggest you don't use it! I imagine that you are right now
sending your bank account details to a friend of the Nigerian Foreign
Minister. Or perhaps you have had an unexpected win on a European
Lottery? The reality of life is that wherever you go there are people
who wish to part you from your money by one means or another.
--
Visit the Amazing Online Fleamarket at http://www.fleamarket.org.uk
Always lots of amateur radio gear!
Richard G3CWI
> Time you did something about it.
I have added a warning. However, it should be obvious to anyone that
sending money to strangers is fraught with problems...
DieSea
"Richard G3CWI" <g3...@tesco.net> wrote in message
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AND there are some new Silver Surfers who have yet to realize the dangers of the
web
Its time people who run these web site
"SHOULD BE MADE ACCOUNTABLE"
DieSea
Mike Hunt
> Mike Hunt wrote:
>
>
>> Time you did something about it.
>
> I have added a warning. However, it should be obvious to anyone that
> sending money to strangers is fraught with problems...
>
>
good self. Sarky reply noted
I work in the electronics/computer industry so it is not for myself that
I made the suggestion.
Yours is the *only* UK radio sales/want site that readily provides the
lowlife with instantly accesible email addresses, so I would have
thought a cautionary header would be appropriate on your site.
Mike Hunt
> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 11:14:20 +0000, Richard G3CWI <g3...@tesco.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I have added a warning. However, it should be obvious to anyone that
>> sending money to strangers is fraught with problems...
>
> "fleamarket", or even on eBay?
>
> 73 de G3NYY
>
Or even to Richard for some of his SOTA goods, I have bought from him in
the past and I have never met the guy :)
Then again I am not nearly 80 years old and brought up in an era where
you could trust people at their word from the amateur radio fraternity.
DieSea
"Mike Hunt" <imac...@baldsheep.com> wrote in message
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I well remember going to a Leeds Amateur Rally
Tom Beaumont was rubbing his hands with glee at the end of the rally
He and Jim Fish had sold a load of gear most of it on plastic
On the way back from the rally there was a "person" on the local repeater flogging
gear
A couple of days later I as in Tom's shop he was bemoaning that he'd been ripped
off
When Tom had phoned to clear the plastic he was told that the card had been
reported as stolen a week earlier
Tom knew the buyer he'd done business before and it was that guy on the repeater
Tom never got his money back
From that day forward the only person he trusted was them with "brass" in their
hands
A sorry reflection of the new world
DieSea
Richard G3CWI
> A sorry reflection of the new world
'twas ever thus. There never was an era where passing the radio amateurs
exam was a guarantee of honesty.
Brian Reay
> DieSea wrote:
>
>> A sorry reflection of the new world
>
> 'twas ever thus. There never was an era where passing the radio amateurs
> exam was a guarantee of honesty.
>
I can think of at several amateurs who passed the old RAE (written) and the
CW test and have convictions for child porn, harassment, repeater abuse,
............
Plus a couple who seem to have had far more "contact" with the police than
most people have in a life time.
--
73
Brian G8OSN/W8OSN
www.g8osn.net
Life is too short for cheap wine.
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
>
>> A sorry reflection of the new world
>
> 'twas ever thus. There never was an era where passing the radio amateurs
> exam was a guarantee of honesty.
>
very true....and the morse test.....lots of G(m)8s were dodgy and not to be
trusted .....you know members of secret societies getting there fellow
masons to do their dirty work......
Richard G3CWI
> I can think of at several amateurs who passed the old RAE (written) and the
> CW test and have convictions
I well recall a radio amateur in my youth who was "absent" for a long
period whilst in prison. Friendly intelligent chap who led quite a
glamorous life. He had a large house and was always accompanied by a
very attractive blonde "secretary". Big Jaguar - naturally. I never
found out what he was convicted of. QRZ does not list his callsign
nowadays. I had better not say the most unusual thing about him in case
he is recognised and sends the lads round...
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
> nowadays. I had better not say the most unusual thing about him in case he
> is recognised and sends the lads round...
>
I can think of a 2M0 who is partial to nice cold milk when he visits your
shack through the patio doors at night ......
luc...@eternal-flames.gov
wrote:
>I well recall a radio amateur in my youth who was "absent" for a long
>period whilst in prison. Friendly intelligent chap who led quite a
>glamorous life. He had a large house and was always accompanied by a
>very attractive blonde "secretary". Big Jaguar - naturally. I never
>found out what he was convicted of. QRZ does not list his callsign
>nowadays. I had better not say the most unusual thing about him in case
>he is recognised and sends the lads round...
Would that be a certain G3K?
Nick
Brian Reay
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I suspect you are thinking of the spy who handed secrets to the Russians,
I'm pretty sure he was a G3K.
Ian Jackson
<seewe...@invalid.com> writes
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Ian
luc...@eternal-flames.gov
<seewe...@invalid.com> wrote:
>I suspect you are thinking of the spy who handed secrets to the Russians,
>I'm pretty sure he was a G3K.
I wasn;t actually, but I know who you mean. You're right he was a G3K
too. But as an RAF sergeant, he didn't qualify for a blonde secretary
- well, they'd all want one - or a Jaguar. As I recall, he managed,
amongst other things to flog the Russians the plans to the 1154/1155
this being in the early 1980s long after that particular radio was
obsolete. You have to admire that sort of cheek
The G3K I was thinking of, was done for long firm fraud, in the 70s.
Thats the sort of crime which would have made a big Jaguar with big
headlights and a blonde secretary with even bigger headlights, de
rigueur.
Nick.
Brian Reay
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> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 19:59:55 -0000, "Brian Reay"
> <seewe...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>
>>I suspect you are thinking of the spy who handed secrets to the Russians,
>>I'm pretty sure he was a G3K.
>
> I wasn;t actually, but I know who you mean. You're right he was a G3K
> too. But as an RAF sergeant, he didn't qualify for a blonde secretary
> - well, they'd all want one - or a Jaguar. As I recall, he managed,
> amongst other things to flog the Russians the plans to the 1154/1155
> this being in the early 1980s long after that particular radio was
> obsolete. You have to admire that sort of cheek
He was arrested in 1968 +/- and the 1155 was the equipment the Russian's
asked about to get him hooked.
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
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luc...@eternal-flames.gov
<seewe...@invalid.com> wrote:
><luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
>news:l9iqi5dmf2k022oir...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 19:59:55 -0000, "Brian Reay"
>> <seewe...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>I suspect you are thinking of the spy who handed secrets to the Russians,
>>>I'm pretty sure he was a G3K.
>>
>> I wasn;t actually, but I know who you mean. You're right he was a G3K
>> too. But as an RAF sergeant, he didn't qualify for a blonde secretary
>> - well, they'd all want one - or a Jaguar. As I recall, he managed,
>> amongst other things to flog the Russians the plans to the 1154/1155
>> this being in the early 1980s long after that particular radio was
>> obsolete. You have to admire that sort of cheek
>
>He was arrested in 1968 +/- and the 1155 was the equipment the Russian's
>asked about to get him hooked.
1968 was it, I had in mind that it was around 1970-71 - Can't think
how I came to type 1980s (above), must be the drink.
Wonder what became of him. It's just possible he's still about I
suppose. Assuming typical sentencing of the time, he would have got 15
to 20 years for espionage and probably been paroled after about 10.
Nick.
p.s. The fraudster got five years and was out after three. Last I
heard he'd retired to Dorset.
Brian Reay
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> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 22:44:41 -0000, "Brian Reay"
> <seewe...@invalid.com> wrote:
>
>><luc...@eternal-flames.gov> wrote in message
>>news:l9iqi5dmf2k022oir...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 19 Dec 2009 19:59:55 -0000, "Brian Reay"
>>> <seewe...@invalid.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>I suspect you are thinking of the spy who handed secrets to the
>>>>Russians,
>>>>I'm pretty sure he was a G3K.
>>>
>>> I wasn;t actually, but I know who you mean. You're right he was a G3K
>>> too. But as an RAF sergeant, he didn't qualify for a blonde secretary
>>> - well, they'd all want one - or a Jaguar. As I recall, he managed,
>>> amongst other things to flog the Russians the plans to the 1154/1155
>>> this being in the early 1980s long after that particular radio was
>>> obsolete. You have to admire that sort of cheek
>>
>>He was arrested in 1968 +/- and the 1155 was the equipment the Russian's
>>asked about to get him hooked.
>
> 1968 was it, I had in mind that it was around 1970-71 - Can't think
> how I came to type 1980s (above), must be the drink.
>
Some info. here. It appears it was an 1154, not the 55.
I recall the case as it was mentioned in a security briefing I was given
after declaring myself as a radio amateur.
> Wonder what became of him. It's just possible he's still about I
> suppose. Assuming typical sentencing of the time, he would have got 15
> to 20 years for espionage and probably been paroled after about 10.
21 years. I recall seeing / hearing he was around maybe 10 years back.
He was 37 in 1968 so would be in his late 70s now.
--
73
Brian G8OSN/W8OSN
www.g8osn.net
>
luc...@eternal-flames.gov
<seewe...@invalid.com> wrote:
>Some info. here. It appears it was an 1154, not the 55.
>
>http://archive.timesonline.co.uk/tol/viewArticle.arc?articleId=ARCHIVE-The_Times-1968-11-05-10-001&pageId=ARCHIVE-The_Times-1968-11-05-10
>
>I recall the case as it was mentioned in a security briefing I was given
>after declaring myself as a radio amateur.
Thanks for the link. Interesting.
He must have been extraordinarily naive.
>21 years. I recall seeing / hearing he was around maybe 10 years back.
>
>He was 37 in 1968 so would be in his late 70s now.
They don't make spies like they used to.
Either that or we're not as good at catching them anymore.
Nick.
Spike
luc...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:
>
>They don't make spies like they used to.
>Either that or we're not as good at catching them anymore.
>
>Nick.
One of the possible causes might be Yeltsin's disbanding of the KGB
and the subsequent years in the wilderness for its former members.
Although the FSB and SVR took over the functions of the KGB, the
former members survived by becoming e.g. security staff for the
oligarchs and nouveau-riche.
Since those awful days of the early 1990s, the former KGB personnel
have formed themselves into a non-state 'organisation' that now
essentially runs everything worthwhile, by inserting their people
where necessary. The firms etc involved have no choice but to take
them on. The Duma essentially deals with road-signs and rubbish
collection, rubber-stamping greater issues that have already been
decided elsewhere.
This has possibly resulted in the SVR having to rebuild its networks,
and it is possible that they simply don't have the tradecraft of the
former KGB. However, the number of launches of Russian military
reconnaissance satellites is quite impressive, so it could be that
that's the way they are now going.
--
from
Aero Spike
Not a member of the RSGB for 50 years 1959 - 2009
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
> them on. The Duma essentially deals with road-signs and rubbish
> collection, rubber-stamping greater issues that have already been
> decided elsewhere.
>
Len GM0ONX
You will use the private sector! A few contractors are teetering at the
moment I wonder how many will go bust in the next 12 months. The rates
were getting for capital works at the moment are suicidal.
Jimbo GM4DHJ ...
"Len GM0ONX" <gm0...@goooooglemail.com> wrote in message
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after March and loads of people go, all that will be left is the use of the
private sector...we shall see how much money they save......
luc...@eternal-flames.gov
wrote:
>One of the possible causes might be Yeltsin's disbanding of the KGB
>and the subsequent years in the wilderness for its former members.
>Although the FSB and SVR took over the functions of the KGB, the
>former members survived by becoming e.g. security staff for the
>oligarchs and nouveau-riche.
>
>Since those awful days of the early 1990s, the former KGB personnel
>have formed themselves into a non-state 'organisation' that now
>essentially runs everything worthwhile, by inserting their people
>where necessary. The firms etc involved have no choice but to take
>them on. The Duma essentially deals with road-signs and rubbish
>collection, rubber-stamping greater issues that have already been
>decided elsewhere.
>
>This has possibly resulted in the SVR having to rebuild its networks,
>and it is possible that they simply don't have the tradecraft of the
>former KGB. However, the number of launches of Russian military
>reconnaissance satellites is quite impressive, so it could be that
>that's the way they are now going.
So you mean it has a lot in common, with life under New Labour?
Nick. :-)
Spike
luc...@eternal-flames.gov wrote:
LOL
NuLab has built on the <cough> achievements of the Communists, and
then taken things on to the next level. They (the Commies) could never
have dreamed of forming an unelected world government based on the
pseudo-science of 'climate change', and sold it to many gullible
people.
What is surprising is that there are otherwise rational people about
who simply cannot see what has come to pass, or what is yet in store.