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FACE

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http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article634210.ece

Cleric’s chilling warning to UK

By OLIVER HARVEY
Chief Feature Writer
in Kahuta, Pakistan

Published: 31 Dec 2007

A FANATICAL Pakistani cleric told The Sun yesterday of his chilling
dream to turn the world Muslim -- by force if necessary.

Qari Hifzur Rehamn, 60, spoke openly of imposing Islamic law’s stoning
and beheading on Britain -- as Pakistan was rocked by unrest over the
assassination of Benazir Bhutto.

He warned: "We want Islamic law for all Pakistan and then the world.

"We would like to do this by preaching. But if not then we would use
force."

Rehamn, 60, spoke in the Pakistani town of Kahuta as the call to prayer
echoed over the dusty streets.

He is Imam of the town’s fundamentalist religious school or madrassa,
where classes for kids as young as nine include Jihad or Holy War and
barbaric punishments.

His teachings are frightening enough. But his mosque lies in the shadow
of the secret bunker where Pakistan produces nuclear weapons.

And when asked if it would be right to nuke British infidels, he laughed
and answered: "Probably."

Army

Rehamn, in a flowing grey beard and turban, explained Islamic, or Sharia
Law as we sat surrounded by some of his 250 students.

He said: "Adulterers who are married should be buried in earth to the
waist and stoned to death.

"Homosexuals must be killed -- it’s the only way to stop them spreading.
It should be by beheading or stoning, which the general public can do.

"Thieves should have their hands cut off. Women should remain indoors
and films and pop music should be banned."

So what does he think of Britain? The dad insisted: "The nonbelievers
must be converted to Islam. Morals in your society, with women wearing
revealing clothes, have gone wrong."

The spot where enriched uranium is produced for Pakistan’s 80 to 120
nuclear warheads is behind razor wire less than five miles from where we
spoke.

A dummy missile even sits in a children’s playground in Kahuta.

Only this month, doomed opposition leader Benazir Bhutto raised the
spectre of al-Qaeda-linked Islamic militants seizing control of
Pakistan’s nuclear warheads -- and activity by radicals near Kahuta.

Despite the efforts of politicians such as her to champion democracy,
the country has long been a hotbed of Islamic extremism and there is no
shortage of potential martyrs.

At the Red Mosque in the heart of the capital Islamabad, Maulana Mohavya
Irshad, 24, stared coldly at me. He said: "I’m ready to become a suicide
bomber and lay down my life for Islam. Democracy is wrong. Earth belongs
to God and God’s law must be implemented.

"I hope Britain and the rest of the world will have Sharia Law this
century. We will continue to sacrifice our lives to achieve this."

Meanwhile, the al-Qaeda warlord accused of masterminding the death of Ms
Bhutto, 54, has warned his 13,000-strong private army will fight to the
death against any troops sent to seize him.

Long-bearded Baitullah Mehsud, holed up in the bandit country of South
Waziristan on the Afghan border, denied being behind Bhutto’s murder
last Thursday in a suicide bomb attack in Rawalpindi.

But his cousin Shehryar Mehsud, 34, told The Sun: "Baitullah and the
rest of us will fight to the last man.

Our army of thousands of Muslim brothers is ready for Jihad against the
infidels and against the infidel government in Pakistan.

"UK and America are the enemy number one of Islam. We have joined the
Taliban troops fighting in Afghanistan and will continue Jihad until we
liberate the country."

The Pakistani government claims a phone-tap caught Mehsud, 34, and a
cleric gloating over Bhutto’s death, calling it "spectacular".

His cousin insisted: "Baitullah Mehsud is not involved in the killing of
Western ally Benazir Bhutto.

Fight

"We did not kill her but she was against Islam and Islamic teachings."

Another of his clan, Mohamad Ali Mehsud, 26, bragged to The Sun about
Mehsud striking from his lair in Pakistan against British and US forces
in Afghanistan.

Mohamad said: "Baitullah is cunning. He moves positions all the time and
uses disguises. Many times he has survived by a whisker.

"His men cross into Afghanistan, fight infidel soldiers and steal
laptops, mobile phones and money. They bribe the soldiers guarding the
border to get back into Pakistan."

But did Mehsud kill Bhutto? Mohamad said: "Baitullah didn’t like
Bhutto’s lipstick and Western ways. But he didn’t kill her. He only
kills men."

~~~~

No doubt that some will say if it's the Sun, you now it isn't really
true, but this is just another report on the "religion of peace".

FACE

John of Aix

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Jan 1, 2008, 1:18:30 PM1/1/08
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FACE wrote:
> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article634210.ece

The Sun? Forget it lad, anyone who reads The Sun, let alone quotes from
it, shows themselves to be a fuckwit of the first order.


FACE

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On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 19:18:30 +0100, in uk.politics.misc, in thread Re:
The Sun -- Clerics chilling warning to UK, "John of Aix"
<j.mu...@libertysurf.fr>, wrote

Thanks for making my statement at the end true

Thored

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Jan 1, 2008, 2:56:10 PM1/1/08
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Read the Sun?
I thought they just looked at the pictures.

Doug

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"FACE" <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote in message
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But BlowJob Foster tells us that this man only represents an insignificant
fraction of the world's muslims! Who cares if most of them implicitly or
explicitly agree w/his message right? Who cares if the radical muslims
are the ones making all the political decisions and have all the power in
their respective, islamofacist theocracies?


FACE

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Jan 1, 2008, 11:34:52 PM1/1/08
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On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 18:25:46 -0800, in alt.politics, in thread Re: The
Sun -- Clerics chilling warning to UK, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com>, wrote

>> No doubt that some will say if it's the Sun, you know it isn't really


>> true, but this is just another report on the "religion of peace".
>>
>> FACE
>
>But BlowJob Foster tells us that this man only represents an insignificant
>fraction of the world's muslims! Who cares if most of them implicitly or
>explicitly agree w/his message right? Who cares if the radical muslims
>are the ones making all the political decisions and have all the power in
>their respective, islamofacist theocracies?
>

As I said, it is another report from the religion of peace. There have
been so many others of the same 'flavor' from different mullahs and
other islamic representatives, and so seldom are they countered by any
other muslims, it makes one think that the majority by at least silent
agreement really do feel this way............

Since we have heard the same sentiments so many times before I think
that it being from the sensationalist Sun is of little import to the
validity of the message.....

FACE

Patriot Games

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"FACE" <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote in message
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> Published: 31 Dec 2007
> A FANATICAL Pakistani cleric told The Sun yesterday of his chilling
> dream to turn the world Muslim -- by force if necessary.
> Qari Hifzur Rehamn, 60, spoke openly of imposing Islamic law’s stoning
> and beheading on Britain -- as Pakistan was rocked by unrest over the
> assassination of Benazir Bhutto.
> He warned: "We want Islamic law for all Pakistan and then the world.
> "We would like to do this by preaching. But if not then we would use
> force."

Somebody just shoot that asshole....


Patriot Games

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"Doug" <no...@nowhere.com> wrote in message
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> "FACE" <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote in message
> news:5gskn3dgrod64l66k...@4ax.com...
>> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article634210.ece
>> Cleric's chilling warning to UK
> But BlowJob Foster tells us that this man only represents an insignificant
> fraction of the world's muslims! Who cares if most of them implicitly or
> explicitly agree w/his message right? Who cares if the radical muslims
> are the ones making all the political decisions and have all the power in
> their respective, islamofacist theocracies?

I care.

Time to kill them before they kill us.

kangarooistan

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Jan 2, 2008, 12:54:53 PM1/2/08
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On Jan 3, 1:43 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:
>>
.

> I care.
>
> Time to kill them before they kill us.

You already tried that MATE

Remember when western colonials owned ASIA

It failed , and now they are smarter and angry and its now time to
back off or die

Its your choice

The tide has turned mate

YOU are in a fruiken corner

kanga
=====

> > The first Australian of the year award winner

> >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Australian_of_the_Year_Award_rec...
> > 1960 Sir Frank Macfarlane Burnet OM AK KBE (1899-1985)
> > The first Australian of the year award winner

> > Worked on WMD bio weapons to murder ASIANS

> > AND is STILL honoured as a national HERO
> > ===============================================================

MICHAEL CATHCART: But how does Dorling know this? Well, he was
researching at the National Archives in Canberra when he came across a
reference to a secret defence committee on biological warfare. Its
principal adviser was Macfarlane Burnet. But when Philip Dorling
attempted to access these top secret documents, the defence department
said no. And what's the sensitivity that the department was
foreseeing?

DR PHILIP DORLING: Well, the department couldn't initially say what
the sensitivity was, because they said that the nature of it was too
sensitive to release. Understandably, this pricked my interest.

MICHAEL CATHCART: Philip Dorling appealed against the decision, and
finally, 18 months later, he got his chance to discover what was in
these top secret defence files.

DR PHILIP DORLING: Sir Macfarlane Burnet and the committee that he was
involved in had been contemplating the idea of developing an offensive
capability in biological warfare aimed at the agricultural crops of
Indonesia and China, and indeed, specifically named Indonesia as a
target.

MICHAEL CATHCART: No wonder the defence department was unwilling to
release the documents even 60 years later. They include a secret
report by Macfarlane Burnet called 'War from a Biological Angle', and
it makes chilling reading. "Specifically to the Australian situation,
the most effective counter-offensive to threatened invasion by
overpopulated Asiatic countries would be directed towards the
destruction by biological or chemical means, of tropical food crops."

DR PHILIP DORLING: So he's looking, essentially, at a regional-
specific weapon, if you like, that would affect Australia's enemies,
but not backfire on us, which has always been one of the difficulties
of biological warfare, is that once you let something loose, it may
come around and bite you.

MICHAEL CATHCART: So this is the work of a coldly objective scientist.
There is no hint of the humanitarian in his thinking, which is why he
wanted weapons to target tropical food crops - so that the temperate
crops of Australia would be immune. And can we identify why he
particularly was drawn into to this?

DR PHILIP DORLING: Sir Macfarlane Burnet first provided advice to the
Australian Government about biological warfare during the Second World
War, and he was asked to advise on the possible threat from the axis
powers to Australia, in terms of biological warfare, and indeed, on
the allegations that the Japanese were engaged in biological warfare
in China.

MICHAEL CATHCART: Macfarlane Burnet clearly knew that Japan had
ravaged China with biological weapons, devastating crops and
slaughtering thousands of civilians with anthrax, cholera and bubonic
plague.

ARCHIVAL FOOTAGE: Public enemy number one. Today, as
> >http://www.abc.net.au/tv/rewind/txt/s1184924.htm

> > ===============================================================

> > When the sheeple discover who the REAL terrorists are , they will
> > elect REAL men like david Hicks as PM

http://groups.google.com/group/david-hicks-fan-club

t -

B J Foster

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FACE wrote:
> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 18:25:46 -0800, in alt.politics, in thread Re: The
> Sun -- Clerics chilling warning to UK, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com>, wrote
>
>> "FACE" <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote in message
>> news:5gskn3dgrod64l66k...@4ax.com...
>>> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article634210.ece
>>>
>>> Cleric's chilling warning to UK
>>>
...

Is this an interview of Qari Hifzur Rehamn, a mad mullah spouting the
usual religious crap...

>>>
>>> Qari Hifzur Rehamn, 60, spoke openly of imposing Islamic law's stoning
>>> and beheading on Britain -- as Pakistan was rocked by unrest over the
>>> assassination of Benazir Bhutto.
>>>
>>> He warned: "We want Islamic law for all Pakistan and then the world.
>>>

...or....

>>>
>>> Meanwhile, the al-Qaeda warlord accused of masterminding the death of Ms
>>> Bhutto, 54, has warned his 13,000-strong private army will fight to the
>>> death against any troops sent to seize him.
>>>
>>> Long-bearded Baitullah Mehsud, holed up in the bandit country of South
>>> Waziristan on the Afghan border, denied being behind Bhutto's murder
>>> last Thursday in a suicide bomb attack in Rawalpindi.

...an interview of a terrorist leader, engaged in attacking coalition
forces in Afghanistan from the relative safety of US ally, Pakistan (a
terror state by the US State department's own definition)

>>>
>>>
>>> But did Mehsud kill Bhutto? Mohamad said: "Baitullah didn't like
>>> Bhutto's lipstick and Western ways. But he didn't kill her. He only
>>> kills men."

He's probably telling the truth. In his own primitive way, he's probably
confirming that Musharraf is the number one suspect.

Pathetic really.

>>>
>>> ~~~~
>>>
>>> No doubt that some will say if it's the Sun, you know it isn't really
>>> true, but this is just another report on the "religion of peace".
>>>
>>> FACE
>> But BlowJob Foster tells us that this man only represents an insignificant
>> fraction of the world's muslims!

Looks like the body part brigade has been having fantasies about blow jobs.


>> Who cares if most of them implicitly or
>> explicitly agree w/his message right?

Of course, everyone cares *if* most of them agree.

Logic isn't your strong point is it? That why you started a new thread -
can't handle the debate?


>> Who cares if the radical muslims
>> are the ones making all the political decisions and have all the power in
>> their respective, islamofacist theocracies?

Exactly why the last thing we need is nazifascist morons alienating our
natural allies and blunting our weapons.

>>
>
> As I said, it is another report from the religion of peace. There have
> been so many others of the same 'flavor' from different mullahs and
> other islamic representatives, and so seldom are they countered by any
> other muslims, it makes one think that the majority by at least silent
> agreement really do feel this way............

'Silent agreement' is something that you ought to try sometime,
especially as you cannot debate directly.

Why don't you killfile yourself? That way you wouldn't humiliate
yourself by being a patsy, channelling non-information from the
"sensationalist Sun".

>
> Since we have heard the same sentiments so many times before I think
> that it being from the sensationalist Sun is of little import to the
> validity of the message.....

The "sensationalist Sun" crosses the bounds of journalistic integrity,
by starting with the headline "Cleric's chilling warning to UK" and
ending the article quoting a terrorist leader and with no evidence of a
linkage between the two.


Any half-smart human being could figure out that the whole point of the
article was to introduce *this* idea:


"The spot where enriched uranium is produced for Pakistan’s 80 to 120
nuclear warheads is behind razor wire less than five miles from where we
spoke"

Watch this space for more interviews of imbecilic tribal mullahs,
parotted by neo-nazi morons like yourself, pawns in a crude propaganda game.

Ask yourself this: Why was the best chance at peace and stable
democratic government in Pakistan just eliminated?

>
> FACE
>

Morons

FACE

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On Thu, 03 Jan 2008 09:36:16 +1100, in alt.politics, in thread Re: The
Sun -- Clerics chilling warning to UK, B J Foster <bjfo...@yahoo.com>,
wrote

You're an idiot, BJ. Don't try that setting a followup shit again. It
just shows that you are afraid of a reply. No wonder you get assigned
cute names..............

Still weeping over Ste. Benazir, I see. Since she is dead, you can
safely claim that she was "the" saviour. You're a dumbass.

The nazis were leftists, just like you. Fascism and socialism are
closely related, both hanging from the same totalitarian branch of the
tree of politics.

You are one of the useful idiots that Lenin spoke about.

FACE

--

"The difference between socialism and fascism is superficial and
purely formal... under fascism, men retain the semblance or pretense
of private property, but the government holds total power over its use
and disposal...
If 'ownership' means the right to determine the use and disposal of
material goods, then Nazism endowed the state with every real
prerogative of ownership. What the individual retained was merely a
formal deed, a contentless deed, which conferred no rights on its
holder. Under communism, there is collective ownership of property
_de jure_. Under Nazism, there is the same collective ownership
_de facto_"
Ayn Rand (Lexicon 159, 161).

Doug

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"kangarooistan" <kangar...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Jan 3, 1:43 am, "Patriot Games" <Patr...@America.com> wrote:
>>>
> .
>> I care.
>>
>> Time to kill them before they kill us.
>
> You already tried that MATE
>
> Remember when western colonials owned ASIA
>
> It failed , and now they are smarter and angry and its now time to
> back off or die
>
> Its your choice
>
> The tide has turned mate
>
> YOU are in a fruiken corner
>

"Fruiken"? Is that an arabic term? Does it have
anything to do w/marrying 9 year old girls and
thighing them? Or is it little bois?

>
> kanga
> =====
>


Doug

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"Blow Job Foster" <bjfo...@yahoo.com> ruminated in message
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> FACE wrote:
>> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 18:25:46 -0800, in alt.politics, in thread Re: The
>> Sun -- Clerics chilling warning to UK, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com>, wrote
>>
>>> "FACE" <AFaceIn...@today.net> wrote in message
>>> news:5gskn3dgrod64l66k...@4ax.com...
>>>> http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article634210.ece
>>>>
>>>> Cleric's chilling warning to UK
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> FACE
>>> But BlowJob Foster tells us that this man only represents an
>>> insignificant
>>> fraction of the world's muslims!
>
> Looks like the body part brigade has been having fantasies about blow
> jobs.
>
>
>>> Who cares if most of them implicitly or
>>> explicitly agree w/his message right?
>
> Of course, everyone cares *if* most of them agree.
>
> Logic isn't your strong point is it? That why you started a new thread -
> can't handle the debate?
>

Exactly so why didn't you address my first point?

>
>>> Who cares if the radical muslims
>>> are the ones making all the political decisions and have all the power
>>> in
>>> their respective, islamofacist theocracies?
>
> Exactly why the last thing we need is nazifascist morons alienating our
> natural allies and blunting our weapons.
>

Nor do we need islamofacist apologists facilitating their conquest.

>>>
>>
>> As I said, it is another report from the religion of peace. There have
>> been so many others of the same 'flavor' from different mullahs and
>> other islamic representatives, and so seldom are they countered by any
>> other muslims, it makes one think that the majority by at least silent
>> agreement really do feel this way............
>
> 'Silent agreement' is something that you ought to try sometime, especially
> as you cannot debate directly.
>

'Silent agreement' to Blow Job implies silencing all criticism of
the barbarity of Pislam.

> Why don't you killfile yourself? That way you wouldn't humiliate yourself
> by being a patsy, channelling non-information from the "sensationalist
> Sun".
>

Have you ever considered self-euthanasia? It quite possibly could
be the solution to both our problems.

>>
>> Since we have heard the same sentiments so many times before I think
>> that it being from the sensationalist Sun is of little import to the
>> validity of the message.....
>
> The "sensationalist Sun" crosses the bounds of journalistic integrity, by
> starting with the headline "Cleric's chilling warning to UK" and ending
> the article quoting a terrorist leader and with no evidence of a linkage
> between the two.
>
>
> Any half-smart human being could figure out that the whole point of the
> article was to introduce *this* idea:
> "The spot where enriched uranium is produced for Pakistan’s 80 to 120
> nuclear warheads is behind razor wire less than five miles from where we
> spoke"
>
> Watch this space for more interviews of imbecilic tribal mullahs, parotted
> by neo-nazi morons like yourself, pawns in a crude propaganda game.
>
> Ask yourself this: Why was the best chance at peace and stable democratic
> government in Pakistan just eliminated?
>

LOL. Pakistan never WAS and NEVER will be at "peace" or
"stable". You're either an islamic propagandist or a delusional
libtard.

>>
>> FACE
>>
>
> Morons

A self-referential insult no doubt, Whoredog. Yeah, I noticed your
usual follow ups game.


B J Foster

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Doug wrote:
> "Blow Job Foster" <bjfo...@yahoo.com> ruminated in message
> news:477c11e3$0$10472$afc3...@news.optusnet.com.au...
>> FACE wrote:
>>> On Tue, 1 Jan 2008 18:25:46 -0800, in alt.politics, in thread Re: The
>>> Sun -- Clerics chilling warning to UK, "Doug" <no...@nowhere.com>, wrote
>>>
...

>
>>>> Who cares if the radical muslims
>>>> are the ones making all the political decisions and have all the power
>>>> in
>>>> their respective, islamofacist theocracies?
>> Exactly why the last thing we need is nazifascist morons alienating our
>> natural allies and blunting our weapons.
>>
>
> Nor do we need islamofacist apologists facilitating their conquest.

Your problem is that you keep shooting yourself in the foot.


>
...


>>
>> Watch this space for more interviews of imbecilic tribal mullahs, parotted
>> by neo-nazi morons like yourself, pawns in a crude propaganda game.
>>
>> Ask yourself this: Why was the best chance at peace and stable democratic
>> government in Pakistan just eliminated?
>>
>
> LOL. Pakistan never WAS and NEVER will be at "peace" or
> "stable". You're either an islamic propagandist or a delusional
> libtard.

It's not a joke, you pathetic moron

>
>>> FACE
>>>
>> Morons
>
> A self-referential insult no doubt, Whoredog. Yeah, I noticed your
> usual follow ups game.
>
>

Follow-ups set accordingly

Doug

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"Blow Job Foster" <bjfo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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Blow JOb Foster, Whoredog's sock puppet, or actual identity?


B J Foster

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LOL, silly idiot. You get taken in by the "sensationalist Sun" with yet
another smear job on Muslims (Gee, they must have combed the length and
breadth of Pakistan to find *that* idiot) and then you come in here and
talk about sock puppets? Is it that all you neo-Nazis behave like
clones or is it that your overworked brain cells are trying so
desperately to keep up that they they have no time for character-forming
tasks.

No doubt 'Doug' will disappear before long and resurface as another body
part. 'Face' is taken and 'brain' is overallocated. Try arsehole - it's
taken but always popular.

Doug

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"B J Foster" <bjfo...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I'm sure they didn't have to look far to find a hater in Fuckistan. There
are
plenty of primitive mudslums to pick from, and all of them would exhibit
the same hate.

>
> No doubt 'Doug' will disappear before long and resurface as another body
> part. 'Face' is taken and 'brain' is overallocated. Try arsehole - it's
> taken but always popular.

Open your rectum, insert your cranium.


Little Johnny Howard

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Jan 3, 2008, 7:50:32 PM1/3/08
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That's true. They are all the same.

> > No doubt 'Doug' will disappear before long and resurface as another body
> > part. 'Face' is taken and 'brain' is overallocated. Try arsehole - it's
> > taken but always popular.
>
> Open your rectum, insert your cranium.

Its funny how BlowJob boy and the budaPEST seem to act the same. I
hadn't noticed it before. But, now that you mention it, they do seem
to be socks.

B J Foster

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