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simple_...@yahoo.com

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May 6, 2008, 3:32:01 PM5/6/08
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source: http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1884

"As Hitler pointed out many times, Islam is the ideal religion for
those who want to dominate the world.” - Albert Speer (Inside the
Third Reich)

All means are good for the expansion of Islam... Wars, rapes,
conquests and extermination of the entire peoples... In 1973, only
some 35 years ago, during the war between India and Pakistan, the
Pakistani soldiers got the official orders from their officers IN
WRITTING, stating that “all the men of the enemy should be killed, and
all the women-raped”. The more recent examples we see in Iraq -
beheading of hostages, in Darfur-the mass violations and killings of
non-Muslims by Muslims; 55,000 dead Christians in the Phillipines;
200,000 in East Timor; over 10,000 murdered in northern Nigeria, and
2.1 million dead Christians killed by the Muslims by some estimates in
Sudan...

Muslims now, exactly as Nazis 70 years ago, believe that the Jews are
the inferior race, the “sons of apes and swines” the servants of
Satan”, and that it will be a noble act to make them disappear from
the face of Earth. And Hitler for them is the man who tried as hard as
he could to make this dream come true-but, ”unfortunately”, failed.
Hitler is one of the heroes of Arab Islamic youth, reveal researchers
from the University of Hamburg, who are conducting an international
study on the perceptions of democracy among young people around the
world. Booksellers in the PA and Hamas – controlled territories report
that Hitler's book “Mein Kampf” is one of the most popular there, a
best-seller from their point of view. The book is being distributed by
Al-Shurouq, a Ramallah based book distributor... More than 8.000 ex-
officers of SS ran to Arabic countries and were received there like
"brothers in arms".

American Patriot

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May 6, 2008, 3:36:15 PM5/6/08
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Doug

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May 6, 2008, 4:12:18 PM5/6/08
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AP, not EVERYONE realizes this and some deny it.

Doesn't this remind you of someone here on API? Maybe
someone w/the initials S.J.?

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American Patriot

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On May 6, 1:12 pm, "Doug" <n...@now.com> wrote:
> AP, not EVERYONE realizes this and some deny it.
>
> Doesn't this remind you of someone here on API? Maybe
> someone w/the initials S.J.?
>
> "American Patriot" <Kcajy...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

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> news:2c281bb0-166f-42c5...@k1g2000prb.googlegroups.com...
> On May 6, 12:32 pm, "simple_langu...@yahoo.com"
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> <simple_langu...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> > source:http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid...
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> Duh.

Topaz? Never paid attention to the initials.

Doug

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May 6, 2008, 4:25:01 PM5/6/08
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Topaz and someone else.

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FACE

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May 6, 2008, 5:04:38 PM5/6/08
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On Tue, 6 May 2008 12:32:01 -0700 (PDT), in uk.politics.misc,
"simple_...@yahoo.com" <simple_...@yahoo.com>, wrote

>source: http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1884
>
>"As Hitler pointed out many times, Islam is the ideal religion for
>those who want to dominate the world.” - Albert Speer (Inside the
>Third Reich)
>
>All means are good for the expansion of Islam... Wars, rapes,
>conquests and extermination of the entire peoples... In 1973, only
>some 35 years ago, during the war between India and Pakistan, the
>Pakistani soldiers got the official orders from their officers IN
>WRITTING, stating that “all the men of the enemy should be killed,

Fundamentalist interpretation of Islam. Polytheists are to be put to the
sword.

> and all the women-raped”.

Is that all? Islam says that they should be taken as war booty, made
slaves, or killed.

>The more recent examples we see in Iraq -
>beheading of hostages, in Darfur-the mass violations and killings of
>non-Muslims by Muslims; 55,000 dead Christians in the Phillipines;
>200,000 in East Timor; over 10,000 murdered in northern Nigeria, and
>2.1 million dead Christians killed by the Muslims by some estimates in
>Sudan...
>
>Muslims now, exactly as Nazis 70 years ago, believe that the Jews are
>the inferior race, the “sons of apes and swines” the servants of
>Satan”, and that it will be a noble act to make them disappear from
>the face of Earth.

The muslims hate the Jews for different reasons.

FACE

CaptainCrunch

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May 6, 2008, 5:17:21 PM5/6/08
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SS officers fled lots of places. So did a lot of other officers. Some
remained in Germany and were placed in charge of police departments by
Orlando Wilson, the American officer in charge of reestablishing law and
order. Some took other jobs. Most weren't criminals, they were soldiers.
The German government still pays for their annual reunions in Germany.
Some former German officers have appeared at American Air Shows, like
Galand, who was the German ace and commander of the German jet fighter
squadrons. If anyone wants to do any entertaining research other than
listening to liberal reconstructionists, read Toland, lots of pictures.

andyc...@googlemail.com

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May 6, 2008, 6:50:00 PM5/6/08
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And you are a without any original thought. You can only copy and
paste items that even a simple idiot bastards son like Doug could find
very easily on the net........ Perhaps

St Georges Day April 23rd

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May 6, 2008, 8:14:55 PM5/6/08
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Oy Vey! Nazis! Muslims! Oy Vey!

Seon F

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May 6, 2008, 9:48:11 PM5/6/08
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Its funny for about 1500 years the Catholic Church was ruling the world and
it was doing a pretty fine job with the Crusades, Witch burnings and other
atrocities.

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Doug

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"Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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> Its funny for about 1500 years the Catholic Church was ruling the world
> and it was doing a pretty fine job with the Crusades, Witch burnings and
> other atrocities.
>

Dumbass, the Crusades were a RESPONSE to the Islamonazi INVASION
of Europe.

Seon F

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"Doug" <no...@now.com> wrote in message
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> "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
> news:48210a99$0$31643$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> Its funny for about 1500 years the Catholic Church was ruling the world
>> and it was doing a pretty fine job with the Crusades, Witch burnings and
>> other atrocities.
>>
>
> Dumbass, the Crusades were a RESPONSE to the Islamonazi INVASION
> of Europe.
>
The Crusaders slaughtered innocent women and children who's only crime was
being born in the Middle East and having the "wrong" skin color. Anyone who
defends their actions is just as bad as a Nazi.
I suppose you think burning innocent women and children at the stake was
justified as well? Thank God we live in more civilized times (civilized
despite the fact they are people like you out there)


Sir John Howard

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May 7, 2008, 3:10:03 AM5/7/08
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Seon F wrote:

> "Doug" <no...@now.com> wrote in message
> news:jsbUj.16022$2g1....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
> > "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
> > news:48210a99$0$31643$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> >> Its funny for about 1500 years the Catholic Church was ruling the world
> >> and it was doing a pretty fine job with the Crusades, Witch burnings and
> >> other atrocities.
> >>
> >
> > Dumbass, the Crusades were a RESPONSE to the Islamonazi INVASION
> > of Europe.
> >
> The Crusaders slaughtered innocent women and children who's only crime was
> being born in the Middle East and having the "wrong" skin color. Anyone who
> defends their actions is just as bad as a Nazi.

And what did the arselifters do, Shornie? Go after chicks with dicks?

> I suppose you think burning innocent women and children at the stake was
> justified as well? Thank God we live in more civilized times (civilized
> despite the fact they are people like you out there)

And why do you support the arselifters when they do the same things
now?

Seon F

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"Sir John Howard" <sirjoh...@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> Seon F wrote:
>
>> "Doug" <no...@now.com> wrote in message
>> news:jsbUj.16022$2g1....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
>> > "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
>> > news:48210a99$0$31643$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
>> >> Its funny for about 1500 years the Catholic Church was ruling the
>> >> world
>> >> and it was doing a pretty fine job with the Crusades, Witch burnings
>> >> and
>> >> other atrocities.
>> >>
>> >
>> > Dumbass, the Crusades were a RESPONSE to the Islamonazi INVASION
>> > of Europe.
>> >
>> The Crusaders slaughtered innocent women and children who's only crime
>> was
>> being born in the Middle East and having the "wrong" skin color. Anyone
>> who
>> defends their actions is just as bad as a Nazi.
>
> And what did the arselifters do, Shornie? Go after chicks with dicks?
>
They fought against the invaders which is what anyone else would have done.
By the way the Crusaders murdered Jewish and Christian civilians but you
probably don't care about that do you.

>> I suppose you think burning innocent women and children at the stake was
>> justified as well? Thank God we live in more civilized times (civilized
>> despite the fact they are people like you out there)
>
> And why do you support the arselifters when they do the same things
> now?

I don't know why Muslim culture has regressed back to 500 years. It used to
be the culture that was more enlightened. I guess it was hijacked by
extremists.

rubina.namatjira

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The Lindsay pamphlet scandal is an Australian electoral scandal in
which Liberal Party volunteers distributed fake election pamphlets,
claiming to be from an Islamic organisation that was later found not
to exist.

The incident made national and even international headlines on
November 21, 2007, four days before the 2007 Australian Federal
election.[1]

The retiring Liberal member of parliament representing the federal
Division of Lindsay, Jackie Kelly, was forced to explain why her
husband, local orthodontist Gary Clark, was caught distributing the
pamphlets with four other people.[

2] The pamphlets, claiming to be from "The Islamic Australia
Federation", thanked the Australian Labor Party (ALP) for supporting
terrorists involved with the 2002 Bali bombings.[3] The scandal
disrupted the election campaign of Prime Minister John

see copy

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lindsay_pamphlet_scandal

================================================================

A FEDERAL Liberal candidate's husband has been convicted and fined
$750 for handing out racist leaflets in the lead-up to last year's
election.

Greg Alex Chijoff,pleaded guilty to one count of distributing the
unauthorised leaflets in the western Sydney seat of Lindsay.

Mrs Chijoff had hoped to secure the seat for the party, replacing
sitting Liberal member Jackie Kelly, but the scam was the final nail
in the ailing campaign of the Howard government.

Chijoff's lawyer Oliver Hagen submitted his client had admitted to his
involvement immediately,.

He had since resigned his membership of the Liberal Party and wrote a
letter of apology to its state director just days after the incident,
Mr Hagen said.

"
To admit to the crime was a "measure of the man", he submitted.

At the Downing Centre Local Court this afternoon, Magistrate Ian
Barnett convicted Chijoff and ordered he pay $750, plus court costs of
$70.

http://www.news.com.au/dailytelegraph/story/0,22049,23659695-5001021,...
================================================================

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Chijoff

===============================================================

is chijoff a CIA or a Mossad under cover agent

Policies produced in a puff of smoke ...

Samuel Taylor Coleridge produced the famous poem Kubla Khan while in
an opium-induced state. Now Mark Latham admits he was a dope smoker. I
can just see it now ... after polishing off Karl Marx's epic communist
manifesto Das Kapital Mark lit up some party cones, inhaled,
pontificated, then produced the bestseller Civilising Global Capital.
I shudder what mind-altering substances he may turn to in order to
produce his eagerly awaited economic and taxation policies.

Greg Chijoff, Glenmore Park, July 24.

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letter to the editor 2004

Author should apologise for such hurtful exploitation - Letters ... -
4:26am
Greg Chijoff, Glenmore Park, July 24. Bill Clinton smoked dope and
hadn't inhaled. Mark Latham smoked dope and had inhaled. John Howard
is waiting for ...
www.smh.com.au/articles/2004/07/25/1090693832724.html?from=storylhs -
42k - Cached - Similar pages - Note this

Gregory Chijoff <Greg_Chij...@rta.nsw.gov.au> schrieb im Beitrag
<33FB82F4.A5FED...@rta.nsw.gov.au>...

> I have an original 2-touch Canon FD lens which is surplus to my needs.
> Very good condition. Glass - excellent. Front and end caps. Manual
> focus,
> but FD enabled. Designed for A-1, AE-1, T50, T70 type bodies.
> Asking $160 USD + postage.
> Greg Chijoff
> Sydney Australia
> mail...@earthling.net

Greetings all!
I need a little hand here...
I would like to automate a CA/400 connection to the AS/400. I have
drive
I: on a Win95 PC connecting the AS400\QDLS\LIBRARY, but the damned
signon propmt box always comes on when the PC gets rebooted. Anyway to
automate this? I've tries the LOGONUSR.EXE tool on the CA/400
developer's site... It appears to execute, but how does Explorer use
it
to map a drive through QDLS? Any ideas, anybody? All and any help
greatly appreciated!

Greg Chijoff
-----------------------------
C3 Consulting Pty Ltd
Parramatta, Sydney, Australia
Phone: 612-9806-6000
Mobile: 0414-444964

Doug

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Fucking retard, it's too bad the mudslum fucks in Iraq didn't cut your
head off -- because you never use anything above your neck for anything
constructive.


Seon F

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I'm in Australia so it would be a little hard for that to happen bigot.

elea.namatjira

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uragoner

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READ THE BIBLE FOR YOURSELF -

http://www.arabicbible.com/

http://www.theophilos.sk/download.htm#free

> > http://www.thegrace.com/download.htm

or Check Google or another

search

> > engine.

Our Infinite God, The One who can truly see the end and the beginning has

given the proof of His omniscience in the form of Biblical prophecies.

Here

is where the Koran fails miserably in its attempt to replace the Bible.

the plans of Satan and His attack on the church and The Christ are

revealed.

Here despite death for all of the earth's inhabitants, salvation is

revealed. Not by works, but by faith and that not blindly for God has

provided

prophecy that all may see.

Islam is a satanic counterfeit that attacks Jesus Christ directly. It

states that Christ was nothing more than a prophet, and that Mohammed is

greater

that Him and all the other Biblical prophets that pointed to Christ- the

Savior and the Son of God. ( see Psalm 22, Isaiah 53, 7:14, Micah 5:2,

Zechariah 9:9, Deuteronomy 18:18 (the one Muslims try to hijack the most,

compare with

John 6:14 Then those men, when they had seen the miracle that Jesus did,

said,

This is of a truth that prophet that should come into the world.),

Genesis 49:10&11, Psalm 2:7; there are several hundred others. Yet it

doesn't address the fact that there were other prophets after Christ, true

prophets - the apostle John and his Revelation, (also Act 15:32 And

Judas

and Silas, being themselves also prophets, exhorted the brethren with many

words, and confirmed them.)

It rejects future prophets, not those chasing falsehoods and bred in

deception and violence, but rather those who are blessed with the latter

rain having kept God's commandments through Jesus Christ - His Son. Acts

2:17 And it shall

come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit

upon

all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young

men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams: It rejects

Gods

Ten Commandments, written by His finger, an unchanging and eternal God,

and

the faith of Jesus Christ. see Revelation 14:12 & Revelation 19:10. It

shall bring about the end of civilization as we know it see Daniel 11:35

to

12:5, Isaiah 24. Serving a god of war, and not the God of Righteousness.

Prove it you say?...

Psalms 14:1 ś<<To the chief Musician, A Psalm of David.>> The fool hath

said in his heart, There is no God. They are corrupt, they have done

abominable works, there is none that doeth good.

2 The LORD looked down from heaven upon the children of men, to see if

there were any that did understand, and seek God.

3 They are all gone aside, they are all together become filthy: there is

none that doeth good, no, not one.

Christianity and Crusaders? Biblically there is a difference and like

Islam,

it was forewarned about in the Bible.

1 John 2:22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ?

He

is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.

Mathew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your

Father, which is in heaven.

10 Neither be ye called masters: for one is your Master, even Christ.

11 But he that is greatest among you shall be your servant.

12 And whosoever shall exalt himself shall be abased; and he that shall

humble himself shall be exalted.

The Pope

Daniel 7:25 And he shall speak great words against the most High, and

shall

wear out the saints of the most High, and think to change times and laws:

and they shall be given into his hand until a time and times and the

dividing of time.( The Pope thinks to change the Ten Commandments, The

Sabbath - the sign of the True Creator, and Idolatry) Note despite

Christ's

warning the Priests of this faith call themselves father, and the pope -

the

most holy father.....hence blasphemy of the True Father in Heaven.

2 Thessalonians 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day

shall

not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be

revealed, the son of perdition;

4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that

is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing

himself that he is God.(Thinking he's changed God's sabbath to Sunday,

killing and conquering in the name of Jesus (and neglecting the cross) for

filthy lucre and power. He calls himself the most holy father....total

blasphemy against Jesus' own words)

Revelation 13:1 śAnd I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast

rise

up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns

ten

crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.

2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as

the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon

gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.

3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly

wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast. (Wounded by

Napoleon in 1798, healed by Mussolini)

4 And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and

they

worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to

make war with him?

Revelation 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great

things

and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two

months.

6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his

name,

and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.

7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome

them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.

8 And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are

not

written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the

world.

9 If any man have an ear, let him hear.

10 He that leadeth into captivity shall go into captivity: he that

killeth

with the sword must be killed with the sword. Here is the patience and the

faith of the saints. (written to avoid any wavering of faith due to the

Roman church's claims versus her actions)

Revelation 17:2 With whom the kings of the earth have committed

fornication, and the inhabitants of the earth have been made drunk with

the

wine of her fornication.

3 So he carried me away in the spirit into the wilderness: and I saw a

woman sit upon a scarlet coloured beast, full of names of blasphemy,

having

seven heads and ten horns.

4 And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet colour, and decked with

gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full

of

abominations and filthiness of her fornication:

5 And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT,

THE

MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

(Babylon the source of may nations, tongue peoples, and faiths despite

Ephesians 4:5)

6 And I saw the woman drunken with the blood of the saints, and with the

blood of the martyrs of Jesus: and when I saw her, I wondered with great

admiration.

7 śAnd the angel said unto me, Wherefore didst thou marvel? I will tell

thee the mystery of the woman, and of the beast that carrieth her, which

hath the seven heads and ten horns.

8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the

bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth

shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the

foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not,

and yet is.

Revelation 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads

are

seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth.

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that

keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

The seven heads are the mountains of Rome - the city of 7 hills . Check an

encyclopedia.

The church - a virgin. So then, a corrupt church - a whore.

This power sought to destroy the Bible, keeping it in Latin so that very

few

could read it.

This power sought to resolve various worldly religions with itself -

selling

its virtue in the process:

Prayer beads - the rosary

The merger with paganism - the worship of the Heavens including the sun -

Changing God's Sabbath to Sunday (Daniel 7:25) the venerable day of the

sun,

and the day Christ rose from the Dead. Made law by Roman emperor

Constantine

in 538 AD

The merging of pagan holidays within the so called church. (Mostly around

the equinoxes and other seasonal changes...Christmas, Easter etc.)

Idolatry - images of who?

ISLAM THE TRUTH - A prophet greater than Jesus Christ? Revelation 16:13

Daniel 11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the

desire

of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.

(Mohammed)

38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom

his

fathers(Abraham and the true Prophets) knew not shall he honour with gold,

and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things (Mosques).

39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god (Allah),

whom he shall acknowledge and increase with glory: and he shall cause them

to rule

over many, and shall divide the land for gain.

40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him:

and

the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with

chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into

the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.

41 He shall enter also into the glorious land (Israel), and many

countries

shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, even Edom,

and

Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.

42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land

of

Egypt shall not escape.

43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and

over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians

shall be at his steps.

44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him:

therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to

make

away many.

45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in

the

glorious holy mountain(al aqsa in Jerusalem,oh yes and the dome of the

rock

...it did say tabernacles didn't it); yet he shall come to his end,

and none shall help him.

Daniel 12:1 śAnd at that time shall Michael stand up(Judgement on the

earth

is past. Read the Book of Hebrews in the New Testament), the great prince

which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time

of

trouble, (Started by the destruction of the oil fields,of which some

sheiks

& clerics are already planning, but will not be able to accomplish til the

Lord allows it.) such as never was since there was a nation even to that

same time: and at

that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found

written in the book

The burning of the oil fields including Iraq (Babylon).....oh yes America

will be involved in this!

Revelation 18:10 Standing afar off for the fear of her torment, saying,

Alas, alas, that great city Babylon, that mighty city! for in one hour is

thy judgment come.

11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no

man

buyeth their merchandise any more:

12 The merchandise of gold, and silver, and precious stones, and of

pearls,

and fine linen, and purple, and silk, and scarlet, and all thyine wood,

and

all manner vessels of ivory, and all manner vessels of most precious wood,

and of brass, and iron, and marble

Adios, Iraq,Saudi Arabia and much of the Middle East, oh yeah and I

guess

the world's economy.....oh

THE TEN COMMANDMENTS

Written by God's finger in stone... an unchanging God!

Exodus 20:3 Thou shalt have no other gods before me.

4 Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of any

thing that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is

in the water under the earth: (crying statues of Mary?)

5 Thou shalt not bow down thyself to them, nor serve them: for I the LORD

thy God am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the

children unto the third and fourth generation of them that hate me;

6 And shewing mercy unto thousands of them that love me, and keep my

commandments.

7 Thou shalt not take the name of the LORD thy God in vain; for the LORD

will not hold him guiltless that taketh his name in vain.

8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.

9 Six days shalt thou labour, and do all thy work:

10 But the seventh day is the Sabbath of the LORD thy God: in it thou

shalt

not do any work, thou, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, thy manservant, nor

thy maidservant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy

gates:

11 For in six days the LORD made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that

in

them is, and rested the seventh day: wherefore the LORD blessed the

Sabbath

day, and hallowed it. (Saturday , actually from Friday sunset to Saturday

sunset)

12 śHonour thy father and thy mother: that thy days may be long upon the

land which the LORD thy God giveth thee.

13 Thou shalt not kill.

14 Thou shalt not commit adultery.

15 Thou shalt not steal.

16 Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbour.

17 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house, thou shalt not covet thy

neighbour's wife, nor his manservant, nor his maidservant, nor his ox, nor

his ass, nor any thing that is thy neighbour's.

18 śAnd all the people saw the thunderings, and the lightnings, and the

noise of the trumpet, and the mountain smoking: and when the people saw

it,

they removed, and stood afar off.

19 And they said unto Moses, Speak thou with us, and we will hear: but

let

not God speak with us, lest we die.

Matthew 5:17 śThink not that I am come to destroy the law, or the

prophets:

I am not come to destroy, but to fulfil. ( Christ speaking here)

John 10:10 The thief cometh not, but for to steal, and to kill, and to

destroy: I am come that they might have life, and that they might have it

more abundant

Another thread:

America:

Revelation 13:11 śAnd I beheld another beast coming up out of the earth;

and he had two horns like a lamb, and he spake as a dragon.

After the nuclear destruction of the Middle East oil fields

US shall mandate its own religion and make and image to the Beast

(Catholicism & the Pope or Church state) . There shall no longer be a

separation of church

and state ( the two horns or powers ) but Sunday laws (in contradiction to

God's

Sabbath) and the true Christian mind set .

IN OTHER WORDS -- forced religious observance, hence speaking as a dragon

(no longer a lamb)

Sound familiar.........forced religion (The beast and the false prophet)

And so you have the puzzle of Rev. 16:13: Catholicism and its forced

observance, Protestantism and its upcoming force observance (Sunday Laws,

despite the Sabbath being the 7th day, and Islam and its forced observance

of religion). All shall have power to control your ability to work - to

buy

and sell as it were. And all ignore God's fourth Commandment, as do the

Atheists (needless to say, but they'll do what the various governments

tell

them)

Compare Deuteronomy 6:8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thine

hand, and they shall be as frontlets between thine eyes. (Ten

Commandments)

w/ :

Revelation 13:13 And he doeth great wonders, so that he maketh fire come

down from heaven on the earth in the sight of men,

14 And deceiveth them that dwell on the earth by the means of those

miracles which he had power to do in the sight of the beast; saying to

them

that dwell on the earth, that they should make an image to the beast,

which

had the wound by a sword, and did live.

15 And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast (church

state

albeit dominantly Protestant), that the image of the beast should both

speak, and cause that as many as would not

worship the image of the beast should be killed.

16 And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and

bond,

to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads:

17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the

name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Some of the Jews wear these things on there foreheads (phylacteries?), but

the gist of the passages are what you do and how you think. The Ten

Commandments, or man's variation thereof....

(The Biblical Sabbath or Sunday.... man's variation )

Anyway we're getting close to a real economic bummer....Cities will

burn,(already seen this in LA & New York, etc. from little incidents like

power outages, or police aggression, but this will be world wide and much

worse), famine throughout the entire world, nuclear fallout from the oil

fields...-

desperate men will do

desperate things

Again:

Peace in the Middle East.... (or anywhere?) When our world leaders talk

of

this, WE SHOULD BE FRIGHTENED

1 Thessalonians 5:3 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then

sudden

destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they

shall not escape.

Kind of makes me wonder what Bible our world leaders are reading

anyway.......

Anything less than this is a lie

The True State of Death

Ecclesiastes 9:5 For the living know that they shall die: but the dead

know

not any thing, neither have they any more a reward; for the memory of them

is forgotten.

6 Also their love, and their hatred, and their envy, is now perished;

neither have they any more a portion for ever in any thing that is done

under the sun.

In a nutshell

John 11:8 His disciples say unto him, Master, the Jews of late sought to

stone thee; and goest thou thither again?

9 Jesus answered, Are there not twelve hours in the day? If any man walk

in

the day, he stumbleth not, because he seeth the light of this world.

10 But if a man walk in the night, he stumbleth, because there is no

light

in him.

11 These things said he: and after that he saith unto them, Our friend

Lazarus sleepeth; but I go, that I may awake him out of sleep.

12 Then said his disciples, Lord, if he sleep, he shall do well.

13 Howbeit Jesus spake of his death: but they thought that he had spoken

of

taking of rest in sleep.

14 Then said Jesus unto them plainly, Lazarus is dead.

15 And I am glad for your sakes that I was not there, to the intent ye

may

believe; nevertheless let us go unto him.

16 Then said Thomas, which is called Didymus, unto his fellowdisciples,

Let

us also go, that we may die with him.

17 śThen when Jesus came, he found that he had lain in the grave four

days

already.

18 Now Bethany was nigh unto Jerusalem, about fifteen furlongs off:

19 And many of the Jews came to Martha and Mary, to comfort them

concerning

their brother.

20 Then Martha, as soon as she heard that Jesus was coming, went and met

him: but Mary sat still in the house.

21 Then said Martha unto Jesus, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother

had not died.

22 But I know, that even now, whatsoever thou wilt ask of God, God will

give it thee.

23 Jesus saith unto her, Thy brother shall rise again.

John 11:24 Martha saith unto him, I know that he shall rise again in the

resurrection at the last day. (Important there are many who seem to be

confused here)

25 Jesus said unto her, I am the resurrection, and the life: he that

believeth in me, though he were dead, yet shall he live:

26 And whosoever liveth and believeth in me shall never die. Believest

thou

this?

27 She saith unto him, Yea, Lord: I believe that thou art the Christ, the

Son of God, which should come into the world.

28 And when she had so said, she went her way, and called Mary her sister

secretly, saying, The Master is come, and calleth for thee.

29 As soon as she heard that, she arose quickly, and came unto him.

30 Now Jesus was not yet come into the town, but was in that place where

Martha met him.

31 The Jews then which were with her in the house, and comforted her,

when

they saw Mary, that she rose up hastily and went out, followed her,

saying,

She goeth unto the grave to weep there.

32 Then when Mary was come where Jesus was, and saw him, she fell down at

his feet, saying unto him, Lord, if thou hadst been here, my brother had

not

died.

33 śWhen Jesus therefore saw her weeping, and the Jews also weeping which

came with her, he groaned in the spirit, and was troubled,

34 And said, Where have ye laid him? They said unto him, Lord, come and

see.

35 Jesus wept. ( for the great unbelief of man)

36 Then said the Jews, Behold how he loved him!

37 And some of them said, Could not this man, which opened the eyes of

the

blind, have caused that even this man should not have died?

38 Jesus therefore again groaning in himself cometh to the grave. It was

a

cave, and a stone lay upon it.

39 Jesus said, Take ye away the stone. Martha, the sister of him that was

dead, saith unto him, Lord, by this time he stinketh: for he hath been

dead

four days.

John 11:40 Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou

wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?

41 Then they took away the stone from the place where the dead was laid.

And Jesus lifted up his eyes, and said, Father, I thank thee that thou

hast

heard me.

42 And I knew that thou hearest me always: but because of the people

which

stand by I said it, that they may believe that thou hast sent me.

43 And when he thus had spoken, he cried with a loud voice, Lazarus, come

forth.

44 And he that was dead came forth, bound hand and foot with

graveclothes:

and his face was bound about with a napkin. Jesus saith unto them, Loose

him, and let him go.

45 śThen many of the Jews which came to Mary, and had seen the things

which

Jesus did, believed on him.

46 But some of them went their ways to the Pharisees, and told them what

things Jesus had done.

47 Then gathered the chief priests and the Pharisees a council, and said,

What do we? for this man doeth many miracles.

48 If we let him thus alone, all men will believe on him: and the Romans

shall come and take away both our place and nation. (Lucifer's

interjection,

no doubt)

49 And one of them, named Caiaphas, being the high priest that same year,

said unto them, Ye know nothing at all,

50 Nor consider that it is expedient for us, that one man should die for

the people, and that the whole nation perish not.

51 And this spake he not of himself: but being high priest that year, he

prophesied that Jesus should die for that nation;

52 And not for that nation only, but that also he should gather together

in

one the children of God that were scattered abroad. Jews and Gentiles

1 Thessalonians 4:15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord,

that

we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not

prevent

them which are asleep.

16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the

voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ

shall rise first:

17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with

them

in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with

the

Lord. (Meet Him in the Air - ANYTHING ELSE IS A LIE ! )

18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

BUT just before.... Satan appears for one last lie:

Corinthians 11:14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an

angel of light.

2 Thessalonians 2:10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in

them

that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they

might be saved.

11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they

should

believe a lie:

12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had

pleasure in unrighteousness.

Why so many denominations and religions ?

Ephesians 4:5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism,

2 Peter 1:21 For the prophecy came not in old time by the will of man:

but

holy men of God spake as they were moved by the Holy Ghost.

2 Peter 2:1 śBut there were false prophets also among the people, even as

there shall be false teachers among you, who privily shall bring in

damnable

heresies, even denying the Lord that bought them, and bring upon

themselves

swift destruction.


Doug

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Australia should deport your Irish ass to Iraq -- where you could be with
the
Islamonazi pigs you so admire.


Seon F

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Why don't you go to Iraq you seem to support murdering innocent women and
children. Your the one who thinks we should still be in there.
BTW I'm Scottish but I would be proud to be Irish. Oh and each post you make
confirm that your just a typical right wing bigot who hates anyone who
doesn't look like you and hates there fellow "race" if they don't hate the
same people as much as you. Thank God not all Christians I know are as
hateful as you.


Doug

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Who said I supported killing innocent women and children? Male, adult muslim
pigs are another story.

Oh, BTW, the Islamonazi pigs you so admire committed the FIRST genocide
of the 20th century (slaughtering 2.5 MILLION Armenian and Assyrian
Christians)
as well as the LAST (in the Sudan, where one MILLION infidels were
slaughtered,
among them hundreds of thousands of Christians. The Islamonazi pigs you
admire
also deliberately, systematically, oppress and murder people of other faiths
in ALL
Islamonazi theocracies on the face of this Earth retard.

It must be tough thinking w/your head up your ass, but then again, I imagine
a pinhead
like you can fit your head up your ass without even using lubrication.


eennah

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condy reminds me of another weapon of war " judas goat "

hijack a good looking young girl to use as a "judas goat " to lead her
people to death , and still pretend you are really kind ad care for
your victim

you see this "judas" token young girl being used again and again

i think in usa they used Pocahontas to do the same as they used
truganini in australia to
lead her tribe into a trap and death while pretending to help them
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truganini
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocahontas
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judas_goat

Judas goat
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A Judas goat is a trained goat used at a slaughterhouse and in general
animal herding. The Judas goat is trained to associate with sheep or
cattle, leading them to a specific destination. In stockyards, a Judas
goat will lead sheep to slaughter, while its own life is spared. Judas
goats are also used to lead other animals to specific pens and on to
trucks. The term is a reference to the biblical traitor Judas
Iscariot.

The phrase has also been used to describe a goat that is used to find
feral goats that are targeted for eradication. The Judas goat is
outfitted with a transmitter, painted in red and then released. The
goat then finds the remaining herds of feral goats, allowing hunters
to exterminate them.

kanga
=====

American Patriot (Kcajyer)

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On May 7, 1:04 am, "Seon F" <s...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
> "Sir John Howard" <sirjohnhow...@gmail.com> wrote in messagenews:7af9cdb7-ef26-49ea...@x19g2000prg.googlegroups.com...
>
>
>
> > Seon F wrote:
>
> >> "Doug" <n...@now.com> wrote in message
> >>news:jsbUj.16022$2g1....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...
> >> > "Seon F" <s...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message

> >> >news:48210a99$0$31643$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> >> >> Its funny for about 1500 years the Catholic Church was ruling the
> >> >> world
> >> >> and it was doing a pretty fine job with the Crusades, Witch burnings
> >> >> and
> >> >> other atrocities.
>
> >> > Dumbass, the Crusades were a RESPONSE to the Islamonazi INVASION
> >> > of Europe.
>
> >> The Crusaders slaughtered innocent women and children who's only crime
> >> was
> >> being born in the Middle East and having the "wrong" skin color. Anyone
> >> who
> >> defends their actions is just as bad as a Nazi.
>
> > And what did the arselifters do, Shornie? Go after chicks with dicks?
>
> They fought against the invaders which is what anyone else would have done.
> By the way the Crusaders murdered Jewish and Christian civilians


http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/pastoral/crusades.htm

No pope ever called a Crusade against Jews. During the First Crusade a
large band of riffraff, not associated with the main army, descended
on the towns of the Rhine..

These misfires of the movement were an unfortunate byproduct of
Crusade
enthusiasm, but they were not the purpose of the Crusades. To use a
modern
analogy, during the Second World War some American soldiers committed
crimes while overseas. They were arrested and punished for those
crimes.
But the purpose of the Second World War was not to commit crimes

> but you
> probably don't care about that do you.
>
> >> I suppose you think burning innocent women and children at the stake was
> >> justified as well? Thank God we live in more civilized times (civilized
> >> despite the fact they are people like you out there)
>
> > And why do you support the arselifters when they do the same things
> > now?
>
> I don't know why Muslim culture has regressed back to 500 years. It used to
> be the culture that was more enlightened. I guess it was hijacked by

> extremists.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

American Patriot (Kcajyer)

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> pigs are another story.Crusades

Doug, here are a couple of links which clear up the "Myths" about the
Crusades
(google search C"rusades appologetics").

http://catholiceducation.org/articles/history/world/wh0057.html

From the time of Mohammed, Muslims had sought to conquer the
Christian world. They did a pretty good job of it, too. After a few
centuries of steady conquests, Muslim armies had taken all of North
Africa, the Middle East, Asia Minor, and most of Spain. In other
words,
by the end of the eleventh century the forces of Islam had captured
two-thirds of the Christian world. Palestine, the home of Jesus
Christ;
Egypt, the birthplace of Christian monasticism; Asia Minor, where
St. Paul planted the seeds of the first Christian communities:
These were not the periphery of Christianity but its very core. And
the Muslim empires were not finished yet. They continued to press
westward toward Constantinople, ultimately passing it and entering
Europe itself


http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/pastoral/crusades.htm

No pope ever called a Crusade against Jews. During the First Crusade
a
large band of riffraff, not associated with the main army, descended
on the towns of the Rhine..

These misfires of the movement were an unfortunate byproduct of
Crusade enthusiasm, but they were not the purpose of the Crusades.
To use a modern analogy, during the Second World War some
American soldiers committed crimes while overseas. They were
arrested and punished for those crimes. But the purpose of the
Second World War was not to commit crimes


>


> Oh, BTW, the Islamonazi pigs you so admire committed the FIRST genocide
> of the 20th century (slaughtering 2.5 MILLION Armenian and Assyrian
> Christians)
> as well as the LAST (in the Sudan, where one MILLION infidels were
> slaughtered,
> among them hundreds of thousands of Christians. The Islamonazi pigs you
> admire
> also deliberately, systematically, oppress and murder people of other faiths
> in ALL
> Islamonazi theocracies on the face of this Earth retard.
>
> It must be tough thinking w/your head up your ass, but then again, I imagine
> a pinhead

> like you can fit your head up your ass without even using lubrication.- Hide quoted text -

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Your a vile racist peace of shit.

Seon F

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http://catholiceducation.org/articles/history/world/wh0057.html


http://www.catholicintl.com/epologetics/articles/pastoral/crusades.htm

Anyone who tries to justafy the Crusades is in my books vile scum who
justafies terrorist actions against women and children.

Doug

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BUt dumbass seon has no problems w/his Islamonazi pals raping Christian
women in Iraq, burning down churches in Nigeria, killing Christians in
Nigeria,
Lebanon and Bethleham or indeed, oppressing people of ALL other faiths
besides Pislam.

Here's a big fuck you Seon!


Doug

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Thanks AP. Buenos noches amigo!

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B1ackwater

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Gee then ... must be a pretty convincing religion. Maybe you
should convert.

Seon F

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I do I just dont use those as an excuse to hate every single Muslim. I'm not
a biggot.


American Patriot (Kcajyer)

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Europe was the underdog at the time of the Crusades, it was
the Muslim world that was the "1st" world, and the Muslims were
the agressors. *If not for the Crusades, the entire of Europe would
have gone down to the Muslims and by force.

> who
> justafies terrorist actions against women and children.

There is no justification for the killing innocent men, women and
children. That goes both ways.

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>

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Funny the Crusaders were the one's who marched into the "holly land" to take
it from the Muslims with the lie that if they came they would be forgiven
(only God has that power) and good at least your more sane than Doug who
probally loves the stories of Muslim children being murdered. But your right
it does go both ways nowadays its the Muslims who are the terrorists.


American Patriot (Kcajyer)

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On May 8, 9:29 pm, B1ackwater <b...@barrk.net> wrote:

A religion that has to "convert" by the sword is not "convincing, but
is
lacking in confidence.

The Mother Theresa types convert by their example, they show by
their gentle actions who Jesus is. It would seem that God would want
converts who convert by their own Free Will, not by being forced into
it.


> Maybe you
>    should convert.

No thanks, my God wants his followers to be with Him by their
own Free Will, and not forced into it.

B1ackwater

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Hmmm ... talk to all those central/south-Americans then. The HRCC
sent its people there with orders - "They convert- or DIE".

*us*

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>... nowadays its the Muslims who are the terrorists.

No, the real terrorists are Bush and Cheney.

fellaj.s.

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sadly its the Americans who are the real dimmis.
they elected their furha who has taken them all the way to bagdag-grad.

only time will tell.

Doug

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Si, usted es un tonto grande!


Doug

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I want to see your Islamonazi pig friends chop off your head on Al Jazeera
TV --
it would be good for a laugh.


Doug

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Who? What? ANy proof? Ah, of course not, lying is a precept of your
Satanic faith of hatred, genocide and pedophilia. Your prophet thighed
little girls, do you?


Seon F

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"* US *" wrote in message news:c63b249ulkd6e51ob...@4ax.com...

> On Sat, 10 May 2008 10:40:13 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>>... nowadays its the Muslims who are the terrorists.
>
> No, the real terrorists are Bush and Cheney.

Only in Iraq. They didnt cause 911.

Seon F

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You forgot to add heil Hitler Nazi.

Seon F

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Spoken like a true biggot.

*us*

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To their credit, the Americans never actually elected Bush.

*us*

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Sure they did. No one else could have.

Doug

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I don't like any Nazis...including your Islamonazi pigs.


Doug

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I'm only a bigot against Islamonazi pigs -- all of 'em. I have nothing
against Hindus,
Buddists, Jews, Christians or even Scientologists. I want to see Muslims
exterminated.


Seon F

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And you claim to not be a Nazi. Brilliant.
Hey I guess that means killing all the Muslim doctors who save life's as
well.

Seon F

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Yeah certainly not the terrorist cell who confessed to it and haven't denied
it to this day. Surly not.

Seon F

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You sure act like one.

br...@pobox.com

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Right. And Oswald couldn't possibly have shot Kennedy.

Dimwitted trash.

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>... confessed to it ...

You got duped by a crudely-faked video.

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>Dimwitted trash.

You probably never even noticed that Bush lied about 9/11, too.

B1ackwater

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I'd suggest you actually learn a little history before
you make another foolish statement. The HRCCs policies
in the Americas cannot be whitewashed - the blood always
seeps through the veneer. Colonial-era practices were
just HORRENDOUS ... the motto should have been "Better
DEAD than Pagan" but that doesn't rhyme very well.

Latter-day policies seem aimed at keeping the poor
people poor - and thus dependent on the Church - plus
encouraging those poor people to breed like rabbits
so more pesos will wind up in the Church coffers.

I'm in no way excusing the behavior of protestant
or Islamic 'missionaries' abroad here ... just noting
that they seem to have gotten their ideas about utter
the wonderfullness of coerced 'conversion' straight
from the HRCC.

I wonder if their gawd approves of insincere praise, or
the kind of people who would elicit such 'praise' by
holding a sword over the head of said 'converts' ?

Doug

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Only to an Islamoretard such as yourself. I SUPPORT the
Jewish people and their RIGHT to Israel shitstain. I support
their right to deport all the Islamonazi fucks out of Israel
and into the Sinai (or the Med for that matter). ESAD pig.


Doug

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When has the above ever happened for any infidels pig?


Seon F

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Do you also support there right to only let Jews live in Israel or to not
let Jews marry non Jews?

Seon F

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I have a friend who's father was helped by a Muslim doctor. I can probally
find many cases of Muslim doctor's living in America on the internet if I
could be bothered.

Doug

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Duh, and I have a friend from Eritrea who's Christian uncle was slaughtered
by muslim fucks and never charged w/a crime -- even though the PERPS WERE
KNOWN.


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Sir John Howard

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simple_...@yahoo.com wrote:
> source: http://www.news.faithfreedom.org/index.php?name=News&file=article&sid=1884
>
> "As Hitler pointed out many times, Islam is the ideal religion for
> those who want to dominate the world.� - Albert Speer (Inside the
> Third Reich)

The association of pislam with the Nazis is well known or it should
be.

http://www.palestinefacts.org/pf_mandate_grand_mufti.php
http://www.islamanazi.com/
http://www.radioislam.org/hitler/
http://www.serbianna.com/columns/savich/022.shtml

> All means are good for the expansion of Islam... Wars, rapes,
> conquests and extermination of the entire peoples... In 1973, only
> some 35 years ago, during the war between India and Pakistan, the
> Pakistani soldiers got the official orders from their officers IN
> WRITTING, stating that �all the men of the enemy should be killed, and
> all the women-raped�. The more recent examples we see in Iraq -
> beheading of hostages, in Darfur-the mass violations and killings of
> non-Muslims by Muslims; 55,000 dead Christians in the Phillipines;
> 200,000 in East Timor; over 10,000 murdered in northern Nigeria, and
> 2.1 million dead Christians killed by the Muslims by some estimates in
> Sudan...

The tactics of arselifters are well known too -

http://kenlydell.typepad.com/islamic_evil/muslim_rape/index.html
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/1609
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate/women.html
http://www.iranian.ws/cgi-bin/iran_news/exec/view.cgi/15/16992

> Muslims now, exactly as Nazis 70 years ago, believe that the Jews are
> the inferior race, the �sons of apes and swines� the servants of
> Satan�, and that it will be a noble act to make them disappear from
> the face of Earth.

Yep -
http://www.sonsofapesandpigs.org/

> And Hitler for them is the man who tried as hard as
> he could to make this dream come true-but, �unfortunately�, failed.
> Hitler is one of the heroes of Arab Islamic youth, reveal researchers
> from the University of Hamburg, who are conducting an international
> study on the perceptions of democracy among young people around the
> world. Booksellers in the PA and Hamas � controlled territories report
> that Hitler's book �Mein Kampf� is one of the most popular there, a
> best-seller from their point of view. The book is being distributed by
> Al-Shurouq, a Ramallah based book distributor... More than 8.000 ex-
> officers of SS ran to Arabic countries and were received there like
> "brothers in arms".

You know, I often wonder, who will the arselifters blame for all their
troubles if they ever do get rid of all the Jews.

Seon F

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And even though people claim Islam views Christianity as one of the
Religions of the book-yeah right.

Doug

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Do you DENY the words of the most holy Prophet? Are
you a heretic?

(Quran 5:33): The Punishment for those who oppose Allah and his messenger
is: Execution or Crucifixion or the cutting off of hands and feet from
opposite sides or exile from the land.

(Quran 9:5): Then when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters
wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and
prepare for them each ambush.

(Quran 8:12): Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I
am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the
hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their
finger tips of them."

(Quran 5:49-51) O YOU WHO BELIEVE! DO NOT TAKE THE JEWS AND THE CHRISTIANS
FOR FRIENDS; THEY ARE FRIENDS OF EACH OTHER; AND WHOEVER AMONGST YOU TAKES
THEM FOR A FRIEND, THEN SURELY HE IS ONE OF THEM; SURELY ALLAH DOES NOT
GUIDE THE UNJUST PEOPLE.

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor
do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the
religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay
the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of
subjugation.

[9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say:
The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they
imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them;
how they are turned away!

[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence
they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not
fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if
they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the
unbelievers.

(9:5) When the sacred months have passed away, THEN SLAY THE IDOLATERS
WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM, AND TAKE THEM CAPTIVES AND BESIEGE THEM AND LIE IN
WAIT FOR THEM IN EVERY AMBUSH, then if they repent and keep up prayer
[become believers] and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them

(60:2-4) WE DECLARE OURSELVES TO BE CLEAR OF YOU, AND ENMITY AND HATRED HAVE
APPEARED BETWEEN US AND YOU FOREVER UNTIL YOU BELIEVE IN ALLAH ALONE

"Allah's Apostle said, The blood of a Muslim, who confesses that none
has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle,
cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married
person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts
from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims." 9:83:17

Narrated 'Ikrima: 'Ali burnt some people and this news reached ibn
'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt
them, as [Muhammad] said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's
Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for [Muhammad] said,
'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.'" 4:52:260

----------------------------------------------

The five major Madh'hab (schools of Islamic jurisprudence) agree that
a sane male apostate must be executed.[1] A female apostate may either
be put to death according to some schools, imprisoned according to
others, or exempt from punishment according to the Hanafi school.[2]
The Sharia laws governing apostasy are derived from the hadith
traditions. According to Wael Hallaq nothing of the apostasy law are
derived from the Qur'an, [3] although the jurist Al-Shafi'i
interpreted the Quranic verse [Qur'an 2:217] as providing the main
evidence for apostasy being a capital crime in Islam.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam

---------------------------

All quotes are from the USC Hadith Datbase at:

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 2, Number 245: Narrated 'Abdullah: A person was
mentioned before the Prophet (p.b.u.h) and he was told that he had kept on
sleeping till morning and had not got up for the prayer. The Prophet said,
"Satan urinated in his ears."

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 1, Number 582: Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle
said, "When the Adhan [the call to prayer] is pronounced Satan takes to his
heels and passes wind with noise (farts loudly) during his flight in order
not to hear the Adhan [the call to prayer].

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 4, Number 516: Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said,
"If anyone of you rouses from sleep and performs the ablution, he should
wash his nose by putting water in it and then blowing it out thrice,
because Satan has stayed in the upper part of his nose all the night."

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 8, Number 188: During the pre-lslamic period of
ignorance I saw a she-monkey surrounded by a number of monkeys. They were
all stoning it, because it had committed illegal sexual intercourse. I too,
stoned it along with them.

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 8, Number 242: Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said,
"Allah likes sneezing and dislikes yawning, so if someone sneezes and then
praises Allah, then it is obligatory on every Muslim who heard him, to say:
May Allah be merciful to you (Yar-hamuka-l-lah). But as regards yawning, it
is from Satan, so one must try one's best to stop it, if one says 'Ha' when
yawning, Satan will laugh at him."

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 4, Number 509: Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said,
"Yawning is from Satan and if anyone of you yawns, he should check his
yawning as much as possible, for if anyone of you (during the act of
yawning) should say: 'Ha', Satan will laugh at him."

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 7, Number 132: The Prophet said, "None of you should
flog his wife as he flogs a slave and then have sexual intercourse with her
in the last part of the day."

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 7, Number 715: Aisha said that the lady (came),
wearing a green veil (and complained to her (Aisha) of her husband and
showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating). It was the habit of
ladies to support each other, so when Allah's Apostle came, Aisha said, "I
have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her
skin is greener than her clothes!" (Mohammed then commends the husband).

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 7, Number 125: The Prophet said "I saw the (Hell)
Fire, and I have never before, seen such a horrible sight as that, and I
saw that the majority of its dwellers were women." The people asked, "O
Allah's Apostle! What is the reason for that?" He replied, "Because of
their ungratefulness." It was said. "Do they disbelieve in Allah (are they
ungrateful to Allah)?" He replied, "They are not thankful to their husbands
and are ungrateful for the favors done to them."

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 3, Number 826: The Prophet said, "Isn't the witness of
a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said,
"This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."

Malik's Muwatta, Book 30 2.13: A man came to Umar ibn al-Khattab and said,
"I have a slave-girl and I used to have intercourse with her. My wife went
to her and suckled her. When I went to the girl, my wife told me to watch
out, because she had suckled her!" Umar told him to beat his wife and to go
to his slave-girl because kinship by suckling was only by the suckling of
the young.

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 7, Number 17: Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: When I got
married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?"
I replied, "I have married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a liking
for the virgins and for fondling them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle
said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her
and she with you?'

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 8, Number 151: Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with
the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to
play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter they used to hide
themselves

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 7, Number 18: Narrated 'Ursa: The Prophet asked Abu
Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother."
The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but
she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 7, Number 88: Narrated 'Ursa: Mohammed (p.b.u.h.) The
Prophet (when He was 53 years old) wrote the marriage contract with 'Aisha
while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she
was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his
death).

SAHIH MUSLIM Volume 9, Number 3901: There came a slave and pledged
allegiance to Allah's Apostle (PBUH), he did not know that he was a slave.
Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah's Apostle
(PBUH) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he
did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him
whether he was a slave (or a free man).

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 9, Number 368: I came and behold, Allah's Apostle was
staying on a Mashroba (attic room) and a black slave of Allah's Apostle was
at the top if its stairs. I said to him, "(Tell the Prophet) that here is
'Umar bin Al-Khattab (asking for permission to enter)." Then he admitted
me.

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 8, Number 182: Allah's Apostle was on a journey and he
had a black slave called Anjasha, and he was driving the camels (very fast,
and there were women riding on those camels). Allah's Apostle said,
"Waihaka (May Allah be merciful to you), O Anjasha! Drive slowly (the
camels) with the glass vessels (women)!"

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 2, Number 103:Narrated 'Urwa on the authority of
'Aisha: Once the Prophet was screening me and I was watching the display of
black slaves in the Mosque and ('Umar) scolded them. The Prophet said,
'Leave them. O Bani Arfida! (carry on), you are safe (protected)'.

SAHIH MUSLIM Volume 019, Number 4345: ...we attacked from all sides... I
saw a group of persons that consisted of women and children... Among them
was a woman from Banu Fazara. With her was her daughter who was one of the
prettiest girls in Arabia. I brought them to Abu Bakr who bestowed that
girl upon me as a prize. I had not yet disrobed her when the Messenger of
Allah (may peace be upon him) met me in the street and said: Give me that
girl!

SAHIH MUSLIM Volume 019, Number 4364: Then he killed their men, and
distributed their women, children and properties among the Muslims, except
that some of them had joined the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him)
who granted them security. They embraced Islam.

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 4, Number 276: Then the infidels were defeated. By
Allah, I saw the women fleeing lifting up their clothes revealing their
leg-bangles and their legs. So, the companions of 'Abdullah bin Jubair
said, "The booty! O people, the booty !

SAHIH BUKHARI 4:260 Narrated Ikrima: Ali burnt some people and this news
reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have
burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's
Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If
somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

SAHIH BUKHARI 9:271 Narrated Abu Musa: A man embraced Islam and then
reverted back to Judaism. Mu'adh bin Jabal came and saw the man with Abu
Musa. Mu'adh asked, "What is wrong with this (man)?" Abu Musa replied, "He
embraced Islam and then reverted back to Judaism." Mu'adh said, "I will not
sit down unless you kill him (as it is) the verdict of Allah and His
Apostle

SAHIH MUSLIM 16:4154 'Abdullah (b. Mas'ud) reported: Allah's Messenger (may
peace be upon him) stood up and said: By Him besides Whom there is no god
but He, the blood of a Muslim who bears the testimony that there is no god
but Allah, and I am His Messenger, may be lawfully shed only in case of
three persons: the one who abandons Islam

SUNAN ABU-DAWUD, Volume 14 (Jihad), Number 2756: Narrated Abdullah ibn
Mas'ud: I heard the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) say: Were it not
that you were not a messenger, I would behead you. But today you are not a
messenger. He then ordered Qarazah ibn Ka'b (to kill him). He beheaded him
in the market. Anyone who wants to see Ibn an-Nawwahah slain in the market
(he may see him).

Doug

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Ah, that's an easy one SJH, the remaining infidel dogs.

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> <* US *> wrote in message
> news:j7l134d5607fdtgp8...@4ax.com...
>> http://islam.about.com/cs/currentevents/a/9_11statements.htm
>>
>> http://www.islamonline.net/english/News/2001-09/13/article25.shtml
>>
>> http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=2207
>
> Do you DENY the words of the most holy Prophet? Are
> you a heretic?
>
Hey Doug have you been to this barbaric site:
http://www.answering-faithfreedom.org/yahyaahmed/ayesha-infidel/ayesha-infidel-1.html
I was shocked when it actually tried to defend those barbaric verses you
posted (I was looking them up). I mean what the fuck is wrong with people?


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On Tue, 20 May 2008 14:46:39 -0700, "Doug" <no...@now.com> wrote:

>Do you DENY the words of the most holy Prophet? ...

You believe Bush when he claims God speaks through him, don't you.


Christian Scripture, "The Holy Bible" [KJV]:

Exodus c 22 v 18
"Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live."


Exodus c 22 v 20
"He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the LORD only, he shall be utterly
destroyed."


Deuteronomy c 7 v 2
"the LORD thy God shall deliver them before thee; thou shalt smite them, and
utterly destroy them; thou shalt make no covenant with them, nor show mercy unto
them"


Deuteronomy c 7 v 24
"and thou shalt destroy their name from under heaven: there shall no man be able
to stand before thee, until thou have destroyed them."


Deuteronomy c 9 v 3
"so shalt thou drive them out, and destroy them quickly, as the LORD hath said
unto thee."


Deuteronomy c 12 v 1-2
"These are the statutes and judgments, which ye shall observe to do in the land,
which the LORD God of thy fathers giveth thee to possess it, all the days that
ye live upon the earth.
Ye shall utterly destroy all the places, wherein the nations which ye shall
possess served their gods, upon the high mountains, and upon the hills, and
under every green tree"


Joshua c 12 v 1
"the kings of the land, which the children of Israel smote"


Joshua c 12 v 6
"Moses the servant of the LORD and the children of Israel smite"


Joshua c 12 v 7
"Joshua and the children of Israel smote"


2 Samuel 11 v 1
"they destroyed the children of Ammon"


1st Kings c 15 v 3
"utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and
woman, infant and suckling"


1st Kings c 15 v 18
"And the LORD sent thee on a journey, and said, Go and utterly destroy the
sinners [...] and fight against them until they be consumed.


1st Kings c 15 v 20
"I have obeyed the voice of the LORD, and have gone the way which the LORD sent
me [...] and have utterly destroyed "


1st Kings c 15 v 33
"Samuel hewed Agag in pieces before the LORD."


1st Kings c 23 v 2
"the LORD said unto David, Go, and smite"


2 Chronicles c 24 v 21
"they conspired against him, and stoned him with stones at the commandment of
the king in the court of the house of the LORD."


Esther c 9 v 5
"the Jews smote all their enemies with the stroke of the sword, and slaughter,
and destruction, and did what they would"


Esther c 9 v 6
"the Jews slew and destroyed"


Esther c 9 v 16
"slew of their foes seventy and five thousand"


Psalms c 110 v 5-6
"The Lord at thy right hand
shall strike through kings in the day of his wrath.
He shall judge among the heathen,
he shall fill the places with the dead bodies;
he shall wound the heads over many countries."


Isaiah c 34 v 2-3
"the indignation of the LORD is upon all nations, and his fury upon all their
armies: he hath utterly destroyed them, he hath delivered them to the slaughter.
Their slain also shall be cast out, and their stink shall come up out of their
carcasses, and the mountains shall be melted with their blood."


Isaiah c 34 v 6
"The sword of the LORD is filled with blood"


Isaiah c 34 v 7
"their land shall be soaked with blood"


Jeremiah c 16 v 3-4
"thus saith the LORD concerning the sons and concerning the daughters that are
born in this place, and concerning their mothers that bare them, and concerning
their fathers that begat them in this land;
They shall die of grievous deaths; they shall not be lamented; neither shall
they be buried; but they shall be as dung upon the face of the earth: and they
shall be consumed by the sword, and by famine; and their carcasses shall be meat
for the fowls of heaven, and for the beasts of the earth."


Jeremiah c 33 v 4-5
"thus saith the LORD ... it is to fill them with the dead bodies of men, whom I
have slain in mine anger and in my fury"


Ezekiel c 6 v 3-5
"Thus saith the Lord GOD to the mountains and to the hills, to the rivers and to
the valleys; Behold, I, even I, will bring a sword upon you, and I will destroy
your high places."
"I will cast down your slain"
"... the dead carcasses of the children ..."


Ezekiel c 6 v 7
"the slain shall fall in the midst of you, and ye shall know that I am the LORD"


Ezekiel c 6 v 10
"they shall know that I am the LORD, and that I have not said in vain that I
would do this evil unto them"


Amos c 8 v 3
"saith the Lord GOD: there shall be many dead bodies in every place"


James c 4 v 1-5
"From whence come wars and fightings among you? come they not hence, even of
your lusts that war in your members?
Ye lust, and have not: ye kill, and desire to have, and cannot obtain: ye fight
and war, yet ye have not, because ye ask not.
Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your
lusts.
Ye adulterers and adulteresses, know ye not that the friendship of the world is
enmity with God? whosoever therefore will be a friend of the world is the enemy
of God."
Do ye think that the Scripture saith in vain, The spirit that dwelleth in us
lusteth to envy?"


Now, to be fair, this correspondent does not intend to
imply that all those who call themselves "Christians"
would interpret the writings they consider holy in more
literal rather than figurative ways. It is not apparent
that any significant number of the self-proclaimed
"Christians" have actually given their scriptures
all that much of a glance, much less abided to the
letter by the content thereof. A lot of controversy goes
on about the real meanings of such literature, among
the greatest scholars of it. Languages of antiquity
aren't always fully understood at best. Now, if I can
accept that an old text cited as significant by some
religious group may not represent the beliefs or the
behaviors of the members of that group in general,
can I not extend that assessment to other religions?


http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/


"Some people have too much freedom."
~George W. Bush, self-proclaimed 'Born-Again Christian',
wallowing in money, drugs, oil and blood, yet wanting more


"There ought to be limits to freedom."
~George W. Bush, self-proclaimed 'Born-Again Christian',
wallowing in money, drugs, oil and blood, yet wanting more


http://www.gwbush.com/oindex.htm
http://www.bushwatch.net/family.htm
http://www.realchange.org/bushjr.htm
http://www.bushwatch.net/bushcoke.htm
http://www.tpj.org/reports/gusher/profiteers.html
http://www.bk2k.com/bushbodycount/bodies.html
http://www.bobharris.com/scoop/bushcocaine.htm
http://www.motherjones.com/news_wire/bushboys.html
http://www.mbpolitics.com/bush2000/BushDealtCoke.htm
http://w.egroups.com/group/alaskagreenparty/message/565
http://onlinejournal.com/Special_Reports/Smith030101/smith030101.html
http://www.totse.com/en/politics/central_intelligence_agency/clinton....
http://cgi.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/binladen/who/family.html
http://mysite.users2.50megs.com/conspiracy/bushcocaine.html
http://www.wired.com/news/politics/0,1283,19815,00.html
http://www.monitor.net/monitor/0001a/fortunateson.html
http://www.freerepublic.com/forum/a382cd5c874af.htm
http://www.devvy.com/reed_19990909.html
http://www.dcia.com/clinton.html
http://www.dcia.com/bcci.html

A Vastly Abridged History of Major Christian Atrocities:

4th century AD: the first Christian Roman Emperor, Constantine,
executed over 3000 Christians (more than killed in Rome to date),
because they didn't agree with him on the meaning of scripture.

8th century AD: the Christian Charlemagne beheaded 4500 Saxons
in a single morning, because they refused to convert to Christianity.
Holy Roman, Emperor!

12th century AD: the Christian Crusaders decided they wanted to
have Jerusalem for themselves, slaughtering the men, women, and
children there until their horses were up to their knees in blood.

12-15th century AD, Christians had themselves an Inquisition, in
which they tortured and killed other Christians (the Albigensian
Heresies), Jews, Muslims, Homosexuals, literate folks, women
who spoke up, and finally anybody Isabella didn't like. They
were remarkably inventive with torture methods and must
have really loved the sound of agonized screams and the
smell of burning human flesh.

Christian Britain killed 30,000 witches, but Christian Germany,
not to be outdone, killed 100,000.

Vlad the Impaler was a Christian knight.

16th century AD, Christians debated at length about whether
or not Native Americans were actually human, descended of
Adam and Eve, ie born guilty.

"When the Pequots resisted the migration of settlers into the
Connecticut Valley, a party of Puritans surrounded the Pequot
village and set fire to it ... Cotton Mather was grateful to the Lord
that 'on this day we have sent six hundred heathen souls to hell.'"

"The Red race has disappeared from the Atlantic Coast: the tribes
that resisted civilization, met extinction. For my part, I cannot murmur
at which seems to be the effect of divine law ..." said Senator Thomas
Hart Benton of Missouri, in 1846, even though even the ones who'd
become Christians among the '5 civilized tribes' had also recently
been evicted from their homes and farms and sent to Oklahoma.

The terrorist massacre of Rosewood Florida in 1923 represents a trend
of Christian terrorism against innocent people which includes many
lynchings as well as mass murders.

Of course, all the way to more recent history, the Christian Catholics
and Christian Protestants have only stopped attacking each other
long enough to go after the non-Christians.

Guess who's quoted below:

"I am now as before a Catholic and will always remain so."

"Hence today I believe that I am acting in accordance with the will of the
Almighty Creator: by defending myself against the Jew, I am fighting for the
work of the Lord."

"I say: my Christian feeling tells me that my lord and savior is a warrior"

If you guessed "Adolf Hitler", you guessed right.

How about those things the Christian Serbs did to Muslims? Goes
to show rape and burning others to death never really went out of
fashion with those trendy Christians.

Islam looks like a real easy scapegoat, especially since there are
some real powerful Christians who want all that oil for themselves,
today. They all seem to be right in line, doing what they're told,
and will march over the bodies of babies they've slain, as ordered.
The Bush/Cheney attacks on the USA, Afghanistan and Iraq
are terrorist war crimes. Bush has claimed to be "born again"
as a Christian and that God speaks through him.

*us*

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On Wed, 21 May 2008 09:26:11 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

>... I mean what the fuck is wrong with people?

Something's seriously wrong with anyone who supports
Bush's murders of Iraqis.

moslem cartoon character mohammad the koos was a goat fucking child molesting POS

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moslem cartoon character mohammad and his bumchum allaah were child
molesting goat fuckers and nikomaks


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Up your ass mohammad - Elif air ab tizak!!!

in...@muslimmatch.com or apa...@muslimmatch.com or
politic...@googlegroups.com


Sir John Howard wrote:


> Seon F wrote:
>
> > "Doug" <no...@now.com> wrote in message

> > news:jsbUj.16022$2g1....@nlpi068.nbdc.sbc.com...


> > > "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message

> > > news:48210a99$0$31643$5a62...@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
> > >> Its funny for about 1500 years the Catholic Church was ruling the world
> > >> and it was doing a pretty fine job with the Crusades, Witch burnings and
> > >> other atrocities.
> > >>
> > >
> > > Dumbass, the Crusades were a RESPONSE to the Islamonazi INVASION
> > > of Europe.
> > >
> > The Crusaders slaughtered innocent women and children who's only crime was
> > being born in the Middle East and having the "wrong" skin color. Anyone who
> > defends their actions is just as bad as a Nazi.
>
> And what did the arselifters do, Shornie? Go after chicks with dicks?
>

±¿¢Doug¢¿±

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<* US *> wrote in message news:u10834h9mbqhgj0bh...@4ax.com...

Most Iraqis are being murdered by OTHER muslim pigs foolio.

Maybe you could ask the 2.5 MILLION Armenian and Assyrian
Christians slaughtered by muslims in the early 20th century for
sympathy.


±¿¢Doug¢¿±

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Yes, but where does God command the Jewish people
to slaughter all the gentiles? He doesn't. Dumbhammad
did and even joined in on the slaughter of the Jews
of Khybar.

Go suck Muhammad's ballsack in your choice of
Islamonazi theocracy then suck on my .357 magnum.


<* US *> wrote in message news:2lu734hi3g5g0l1qo...@4ax.com...

±¿¢Doug¢¿±

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"Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote in message
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It's their religion, obviously. Christianity and Judaism had their days of
violent oppression and slaughter, but that was what, 300 years ago? In
the case of Judaism they haven't committed any genocides in well over
2000 years.

Islam is almost as old as Christianity and I can convincingly argue that
the number of infidels they slaughter has INCREASED since the
20th century.

I'd rather live in Communist China than an Islamonazi theocracy.


*us*

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On Thu, 22 May 2008 16:06:09 -0700, "±¿¢Dumb¢¿±" <no¡n...@now.com> wrote:

>Most Iraqis are being murdered by ...

Multiple wrongs still don't make a right.

>Maybe you could ...

You're not in any position to suggest what
anyone else should do.

*us*

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May 22, 2008, 9:33:38 PM5/22/08
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On Thu, 22 May 2008 16:11:10 -0700, "±¿¢Dumb¢¿±" <no¡n...@now.com> wrote:

>...Christianity and Judaism had their days of
>violent oppression and slaughter, but that was what, 300 years ago? ...

No, it's ongoing. Bush claims that God speaks through him,
and he's mass-murdering innocents in Iraq.

*us*

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On Thu, 22 May 2008 16:08:24 -0700, "±¿¢Dumb¢¿±" <no¡n...@now.com> wrote:

>... joined in on the slaughter of the Jews

The Bush crime family did all it could to help
its idol Hitler kill Jews and Americans.

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html

Seon F

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"* US *" wrote in message news:u10834h9mbqhgj0bh...@4ax.com...

Not as much as Muslims who support the kind of verses of the Koran that call
on infidels to be murdered.

Seon F

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To trolls like you.

"moslem cartoon character mohammad the koos was a goat fucking child
molesting POS" <daveonlin...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:3febd199-0e9e-46b2...@t54g2000hsg.googlegroups.com...

Seon F

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"* US *" wrote in message news:8m7c34t1r6o2ihck8...@4ax.com...

> On Thu, 22 May 2008 16:11:10 -0700, "ąż˘Dumb˘żą" <noĄn...@now.com> wrote:
>
>>...Christianity and Judaism had their days of
>>violent oppression and slaughter, but that was what, 300 years ago? ...
>
> No, it's ongoing. Bush claims that God speaks through him,
> and he's mass-murdering innocents in Iraq.
>
What about all the Christians who protest the war? Iraq had nothing to do
with "God" and everything about oil and lobbyists.

Seon F

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To be fair the Torah is filled with nasty stuff about gentiles but nope it
doesnt tell a Jew to kill a gentile anywhere.

"ąż˘Doug˘żą" <noĄn...@now.com> wrote in message
news:f2nZj.71$iM3...@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com...

Seon F

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"ąż˘Doug˘żą" <noĄn...@now.com> wrote in message
news:Q4nZj.73$iM3...@flpi150.ffdc.sbc.com...
I agree I was so shocked. I expected to find sites refuting those verses but
they actually make excuses.
I would rather live in Communist China as well but only because I don't like
Religion (if you read my posts you'd know I dont like Communist governments
so thats saying a lot).
There's no way you'd see me getting up at 5am or whatever to pray.
I'd rather burn in hell.

*us*

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On Sat, 24 May 2008 18:19:29 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

>...I expected to find sites refuting those verses ...

It's erroneous to assume that they'd be taken literally.

The Iraqis are defending themselves from pillaging
murderous invaders, not trying to kill infidels.

On Thu, 22 May 2008 16:11:10 -0700, "±¿¢Dumb¢¿±" <no¡n...@now.com> wrote:

>...Christianity and Judaism had their days of
>violent oppression and slaughter, but that was what, 300 years ago? ...

No, it's ongoing. Bush claims that God speaks through him,
and he's mass-murdering innocents in Iraq.

On Wed, 21 May 2008 09:26:11 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

*us*

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On Sat, 24 May 2008 18:21:30 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

>To be fair the Torah is filled with nasty stuff about gentiles but nope it

>doesnt tell a Jew to kill ...

Sure it does. Try reading it.

On Thu, 22 May 2008 16:08:24 -0700, "ąż˘Dumb˘żą" <noĄn...@now.com> wrote:

>... joined in on the slaughter of the Jews

The Bush crime family did all it could to help
its idol Hitler kill Jews and Americans.

http://www.takebackthemedia.com/bushnonazi.html

On Tue, 20 May 2008 14:46:39 -0700, "Doug" <no...@now.com> wrote:

*us*

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May 24, 2008, 8:18:47 AM5/24/08
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On Sat, 24 May 2008 18:16:42 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

>... Muslims ...

You don't know any, and don't know anything about them,
and aren't threatened by them, yet you support the murders
of their children.

*us*

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May 24, 2008, 8:18:47 AM5/24/08
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On Sat, 24 May 2008 18:20:17 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

>What about all the Christians who protest the war?

They're commendable.

> Iraq had nothing to do
>with "God" and everything about oil and lobbyists.

That's true.

It's not about religion at all.

The Muslims are being demonized because they have
resources the profiteers want to steal.

On Thu, 22 May 2008 16:11:10 -0700, "ąż˘Dumb˘żą" <noĄn...@now.com> wrote:

>...Christianity and Judaism had their days of
>violent oppression and slaughter, but that was what, 300 years ago? ...

No, it's ongoing. Bush claims that God speaks through him,
and he's mass-murdering innocents in Iraq.

On Wed, 21 May 2008 09:26:11 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

Sanforized

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May 24, 2008, 8:50:06 AM5/24/08
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* US * :

Repetitively displays its mental illness
with every post. Very repetitively. Very
very very repetitively.

Well, you get the idea.


*us*

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On Sat, 24 May 2008 07:50:06 -0500, Sanforized <sanfo...@naol.con> wrote:

>Repetitively displays its mental illness
>with every post. Very repetitively. Very
>very very repetitively.

No one had asked for you, or about you.

We already know why you can't deal with the
content, and can only offer fallacy.

Now back to the actual discussion:

Sanforized

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May 24, 2008, 9:34:52 AM5/24/08
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* US * wrote:
> On Sat, 24 May 2008 07:50:06 -0500, Sanforized <sanfo...@naol.con> wrote:
>
>
>>Repetitively displays its mental illness
>>with every post. Very repetitively. Very
>>very very repetitively.
>
>
> No one had asked for you, or about you.
>
> We already know why you can't deal with the
> content, and can only offer fallacy.
>
> Now back to the actual discussion:

[....]

What's snipped was no "real discussion." It was the
ravings of a lunatic who doesn't know the difference
between.....

*us*

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On Sat, 24 May 2008 08:34:52 -0500, Sanforized <sanfo...@naol.con> wrote:

>... no "real discussion." ... the
>ravings of a lunatic ...

You're oversensitive, irrational, prone to histrionics, humorless,
and bitter, too, but it's not about you. It's about how your idols
in the Bush crime family never renounced their allegiance to the
Third Reich.

On Sat, 24 May 2008 07:50:06 -0500, Sanforized <sanfo...@naol.con> wrote:

>Repetitively displays its mental illness
>with every post. Very repetitively. Very
>very very repetitively.

No one had asked for you, or about you.

We already know why you can't deal with the
content, and can only offer fallacy.

Now back to the actual discussion:

On Sat, 24 May 2008 18:21:30 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

Seon F

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"* US *" wrote in message news:qj0g345r9sq4eh553...@4ax.com...

> On Sat, 24 May 2008 18:20:17 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>>What about all the Christians who protest the war?
>
> They're commendable.
>
Or the one's who actually voted against and stills peak out about the war ie
Ron Paul.

>> Iraq had nothing to do
>>with "God" and everything about oil and lobbyists.
>
> That's true.
>
> It's not about religion at all.
>
> The Muslims are being demonized because they have
> resources the profiteers want to steal.
>

The verses in the Koran about killing infadels are still evil though. But
people seem to have the idea that every single Muslim was responsible for
911 when it was only a handful of nutjobs.

Seon F

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"* US *" wrote in message news:am0g34pr7ietsv4gd...@4ax.com...

> On Sat, 24 May 2008 18:19:29 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>>...I expected to find sites refuting those verses ...
>
> It's erroneous to assume that they'd be taken literally.
>
> The Iraqis are defending themselves from pillaging
> murderous invaders, not trying to kill infidels.
>
No but those kind of verses are still in the Koran. Why only take parts of
the Koran that suit you literally? Why not take it all as symbolic which is
what all Holly Books are anyway. Symbolic.

Seon F

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May 25, 2008, 12:23:17 AM5/25/08
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"* US *" wrote in message news:go0g34diiv0smap67...@4ax.com...

> On Sat, 24 May 2008 18:21:30 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>>To be fair the Torah is filled with nasty stuff about gentiles but nope it
>>doesnt tell a Jew to kill ...
>
> Sure it does. Try reading it.
>
Ok which verses talk about killing non Jews? And dont quote those kill
witches verses or whatever I'm talking about verses that like in the Koran
tell the believers to literally kill non Jews.

*us*

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On Sun, 25 May 2008 14:23:17 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

>Ok which verses talk about killing non Jews? ...

You'd deleted them. I've added them back.

On Sat, 24 May 2008 18:21:30 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

>To be fair the Torah is filled with nasty stuff about gentiles but nope it
>doesnt tell a Jew to kill ...

Sure it does. Try reading it.

*us*

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On Sun, 25 May 2008 14:21:03 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

>"* US *" wrote in message news:qj0g345r9sq4eh553...@4ax.com...
>> On Sat, 24 May 2008 18:20:17 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>
>>>What about all the Christians who protest the war?
>>
>> They're commendable.
>>
>Or the one's who actually voted against and stills peak out about the war ie
>Ron Paul.

He's the one candidate Republicans should support.

>>> Iraq had nothing to do
>>>with "God" and everything about oil and lobbyists.
>>
>> That's true.
>>
>> It's not about religion at all.
>>
>> The Muslims are being demonized because they have
>> resources the profiteers want to steal.
>>

>The verses in the Koran about killing infadels [sic] are still ...

They're more irrelevant than the murderous Bible verses.

>people seem to have the idea that every single Muslim was responsible for
>911 when it was only a handful of nutjobs.

It had nothing to do with Islam.

PNAC's best excuse would be insanity.

*us*

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On Sun, 25 May 2008 14:22:09 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

>No but those kind of verses are still in the Koran.

There's worse in the Bible.

On Sat, 24 May 2008 18:19:29 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

>...I expected to find sites refuting those verses ...

It's erroneous to assume that they'd be taken literally.

The Iraqis are defending themselves from pillaging
murderous invaders, not trying to kill infidels.

Seon F

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"* US *" wrote in message news:n6oi34dilli2msq0n...@4ax.com...

> On Sun, 25 May 2008 14:21:03 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>>"* US *" wrote in message
>>news:qj0g345r9sq4eh553...@4ax.com...
>>> On Sat, 24 May 2008 18:20:17 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>
>>>>What about all the Christians who protest the war?
>>>
>>> They're commendable.
>>>
>>Or the one's who actually voted against and stills peak out about the war
>>ie
>>Ron Paul.
>
> He's the one candidate Republicans should support.
>
He's the only one who has a chance of beating obama.

>>>> Iraq had nothing to do
>>>>with "God" and everything about oil and lobbyists.
>>>
>>> That's true.
>>>
>>> It's not about religion at all.
>>>
>>> The Muslims are being demonized because they have
>>> resources the profiteers want to steal.
>>>
>>The verses in the Koran about killing infadels [sic] are still ...
>
> They're more irrelevant than the murderous Bible verses.
>

Muslims still obey those verses. When was the last time you saw a Christian
kill someone who worked on the Sabbath?

>>people seem to have the idea that every single Muslim was responsible for
>>911 when it was only a handful of nutjobs.
>
> It had nothing to do with Islam.
>
> PNAC's best excuse would be insanity.

They just said they wanted a new pearl harbor. When the terrorists gave it
to them they used it for there own advantage.

Seon F

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Jews do not follow those verses today. Muslims still take the Koran
literally.

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> On Sun, 25 May 2008 14:23:17 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>>Ok which verses talk about killing non Jews? ...
>
> You'd deleted them. I've added them back.
>
> On Sat, 24 May 2008 18:21:30 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>>To be fair the Torah is filled with nasty stuff about gentiles but nope it
>>doesnt tell a Jew to kill ...
>
> Sure it does. Try reading it.
>

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On Tue, 27 May 2008 19:35:58 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

>"* US *" wrote in message news:n6oi34dilli2msq0n...@4ax.com...
>> On Sun, 25 May 2008 14:21:03 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>"* US *" wrote in message news:qj0g345r9sq4eh553...@4ax.com...
>>>> On Sat, 24 May 2008 18:20:17 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>What about all the Christians who protest the war?
>>>>
>>>> They're commendable.
>>>>
>>>Or the one's who actually voted against and stills peak out about the war
>>>ie
>>>Ron Paul.
>>
>> He's the one candidate Republicans should support.
>>
>He's the only one who has a chance of beating obama.

Good point.

>>>>> Iraq had nothing to do
>>>>>with "God" and everything about oil and lobbyists.
>>>>
>>>> That's true.
>>>>
>>>> It's not about religion at all.
>>>>
>>>> The Muslims are being demonized because they have
>>>> resources the profiteers want to steal.
>>>>
>>>The verses in the Koran about killing infadels [sic] are still ...
>>
>> They're more irrelevant than the murderous Bible verses.
>>
>Muslims still obey those verses.

You're overgeneralizing as a form of bigotry.

There are thousands of Muslims, for but one
example, in the US military. Obviously you're
not referring accurately to them. Overall, the
Muslim population is a couple billion, from a
plethora of different cultures and countries.

> When was the last time you saw a Christian
>kill someone who worked on the Sabbath?

Bush claims to be born again, and he's killing
many thousands of totally innocent people
in Iraq.

>>>people seem to have the idea that every single Muslim was responsible for
>>>911 when it was only a handful of nutjobs.
>>
>> It had nothing to do with Islam.
>>
>> PNAC's best excuse would be insanity.
>
>They just said they wanted a new pearl harbor. When the terrorists gave it
>to them they used it for there own advantage.

The terrorists are Bush and Cheney.

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On Tue, 27 May 2008 19:37:38 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

>Jews ... Muslims ...

You don't seem to be sufficiently familiar with
either group to speak accurately of them. More
specifically, neither group is as homogenous as
a limited, bigoted perspective would insist.

On Sun, 25 May 2008 14:23:17 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

>Ok which verses talk about killing non Jews? ...

You'd deleted them. I've added them back.

On Sat, 24 May 2008 18:21:30 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:

>To be fair the Torah is filled with nasty stuff about gentiles but nope it
>doesnt tell a Jew to kill ...

Sure it does. Try reading it.

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The thing is, not only does the Koran call for the genocide of infidels, but
muslims carry out those words. Muslim pigs are slaughtering Christians in
Nigeria, Darfur, Lebanon and Bethleham even as we're sitting here debating
w/this muslim fucking liar.


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> On Thu, 22 May 2008 16:11:10 -0700, "ąż˘Dumb˘żą" <noĄn...@now.com> wrote:
>
>>...Christianity and Judaism had their days of
>>violent oppression and slaughter, but that was what, 300 years ago? ...
>
> No, it's ongoing. Bush claims that God speaks through him,
> and he's mass-murdering innocents in Iraq.
>
> On Wed, 21 May 2008 09:26:11 +1000, "Seon F" <se...@iinet.net.au> wrote:
>
>>... I mean what the fuck is wrong with people?
>
> Something's seriously wrong with anyone who supports
> Bush's murders of Iraqis.

Something's seriously wrong w/a religious group that has
slaughtered over 3.5 million infidels in the 20th century, continues
to slaughter/oppress infidels today and lies about it constantly.

Something's seriously wrong w/a religion founded by a pedophile
who shagged a 9 year old girl.

Something's seriously wrong with you.


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(Quran 5:33): The Punishment for those who oppose Allah and his messenger
is: Execution or Crucifixion or the cutting off of hands and feet from
opposite sides or exile from the land.

(Quran 9:5): Then when the sacred months have passed, slay the idolaters
wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and
prepare for them each ambush.

(Quran 8:12): Remember Thy Lord inspired the angels (with the message): "I
am with you: give firmness to the believers, I will instill terror into the
hearts of the unbelievers, Smite ye above their necks and smite all their
finger tips of them."

(Quran 5:49-51) O YOU WHO BELIEVE! DO NOT TAKE THE JEWS AND THE CHRISTIANS
FOR FRIENDS; THEY ARE FRIENDS OF EACH OTHER; AND WHOEVER AMONGST YOU TAKES
THEM FOR A FRIEND, THEN SURELY HE IS ONE OF THEM; SURELY ALLAH DOES NOT
GUIDE THE UNJUST PEOPLE.

[9.29] Fight those who do not believe in Allah, nor in the latter day, nor
do they prohibit what Allah and His Apostle have prohibited, nor follow the
religion of truth, out of those who have been given the Book, until they pay
the tax in acknowledgment of superiority and they are in a state of
subjugation.

[9.30] And the Jews say: Uzair is the son of Allah; and the Christians say:
The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they
imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them;
how they are turned away!

[2.191] And kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from whence
they drove you out, and persecution is severer than slaughter, and do not
fight with them at the Sacred Mosque until they fight with you in it, but if
they do fight you, then slay them; such is the recompense of the
unbelievers.

(9:5) When the sacred months have passed away, THEN SLAY THE IDOLATERS
WHEREVER YOU FIND THEM, AND TAKE THEM CAPTIVES AND BESIEGE THEM AND LIE IN
WAIT FOR THEM IN EVERY AMBUSH, then if they repent and keep up prayer
[become believers] and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them

(60:2-4) WE DECLARE OURSELVES TO BE CLEAR OF YOU, AND ENMITY AND HATRED HAVE
APPEARED BETWEEN US AND YOU FOREVER UNTIL YOU BELIEVE IN ALLAH ALONE

"Allah's Apostle said, The blood of a Muslim, who confesses that none
has the right to be worshipped but Allah and that I am His Apostle,
cannot be shed except in three cases: In Qisas for murder, a married
person who commits illegal sexual intercourse and the one who reverts
from Islam (apostate) and leaves the Muslims." 9:83:17

Narrated 'Ikrima: 'Ali burnt some people and this news reached ibn
'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have burnt
them, as [Muhammad] said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's
Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for [Muhammad] said,
'If somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.'" 4:52:260

----------------------------------------------

The five major Madh'hab (schools of Islamic jurisprudence) agree that
a sane male apostate must be executed.[1] A female apostate may either
be put to death according to some schools, imprisoned according to
others, or exempt from punishment according to the Hanafi school.[2]
The Sharia laws governing apostasy are derived from the hadith
traditions. According to Wael Hallaq nothing of the apostasy law are
derived from the Qur'an, [3] although the jurist Al-Shafi'i
interpreted the Quranic verse [Qur'an 2:217] as providing the main
evidence for apostasy being a capital crime in Islam.[4]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apostasy_in_Islam

---------------------------

All quotes are from the USC Hadith Datbase at:

http://www.usc.edu/dept/MSA/reference/searchhadith.html

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 2, Number 245: Narrated 'Abdullah: A person was
mentioned before the Prophet (p.b.u.h) and he was told that he had kept on
sleeping till morning and had not got up for the prayer. The Prophet said,
"Satan urinated in his ears."

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 1, Number 582: Narrated Abu Huraira: Allah's Apostle
said, "When the Adhan [the call to prayer] is pronounced Satan takes to his
heels and passes wind with noise (farts loudly) during his flight in order
not to hear the Adhan [the call to prayer].

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 4, Number 516: Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said,
"If anyone of you rouses from sleep and performs the ablution, he should
wash his nose by putting water in it and then blowing it out thrice,
because Satan has stayed in the upper part of his nose all the night."

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 8, Number 188: During the pre-lslamic period of
ignorance I saw a she-monkey surrounded by a number of monkeys. They were
all stoning it, because it had committed illegal sexual intercourse. I too,
stoned it along with them.

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 8, Number 242: Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said,
"Allah likes sneezing and dislikes yawning, so if someone sneezes and then
praises Allah, then it is obligatory on every Muslim who heard him, to say:
May Allah be merciful to you (Yar-hamuka-l-lah). But as regards yawning, it
is from Satan, so one must try one's best to stop it, if one says 'Ha' when
yawning, Satan will laugh at him."

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 4, Number 509: Narrated Abu Huraira: The Prophet said,
"Yawning is from Satan and if anyone of you yawns, he should check his
yawning as much as possible, for if anyone of you (during the act of
yawning) should say: 'Ha', Satan will laugh at him."

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 7, Number 132: The Prophet said, "None of you should
flog his wife as he flogs a slave and then have sexual intercourse with her
in the last part of the day."

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 7, Number 715: Aisha said that the lady (came),
wearing a green veil (and complained to her (Aisha) of her husband and
showed her a green spot on her skin caused by beating). It was the habit of
ladies to support each other, so when Allah's Apostle came, Aisha said, "I
have not seen any woman suffering as much as the believing women. Look! Her
skin is greener than her clothes!" (Mohammed then commends the husband).

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 7, Number 125: The Prophet said "I saw the (Hell)
Fire, and I have never before, seen such a horrible sight as that, and I
saw that the majority of its dwellers were women." The people asked, "O
Allah's Apostle! What is the reason for that?" He replied, "Because of
their ungratefulness." It was said. "Do they disbelieve in Allah (are they
ungrateful to Allah)?" He replied, "They are not thankful to their husbands
and are ungrateful for the favors done to them."

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 3, Number 826: The Prophet said, "Isn't the witness of
a woman equal to half of that of a man?" The women said, "Yes." He said,
"This is because of the deficiency of a woman's mind."

Malik's Muwatta, Book 30 2.13: A man came to Umar ibn al-Khattab and said,
"I have a slave-girl and I used to have intercourse with her. My wife went
to her and suckled her. When I went to the girl, my wife told me to watch
out, because she had suckled her!" Umar told him to beat his wife and to go
to his slave-girl because kinship by suckling was only by the suckling of
the young.

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 7, Number 17: Narrated Jabir bin 'Abdullah: When I got
married, Allah's Apostle said to me, "What type of lady have you married?"
I replied, "I have married a matron' He said, "Why, don't you have a liking
for the virgins and for fondling them?" Jabir also said: Allah's Apostle
said, "Why didn't you marry a young girl so that you might play with her
and she with you?'

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 8, Number 151: Narrated 'Aisha: I used to play with
the dolls in the presence of the Prophet, and my girl friends also used to
play with me. When Allah's Apostle used to enter they used to hide
themselves

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 7, Number 18: Narrated 'Ursa: The Prophet asked Abu
Bakr for 'Aisha's hand in marriage. Abu Bakr said "But I am your brother."
The Prophet said, "You are my brother in Allah's religion and His Book, but
she (Aisha) is lawful for me to marry."

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 7, Number 88: Narrated 'Ursa: Mohammed (p.b.u.h.) The
Prophet (when He was 53 years old) wrote the marriage contract with 'Aisha
while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her while she
was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his
death).

SAHIH MUSLIM Volume 9, Number 3901: There came a slave and pledged
allegiance to Allah's Apostle (PBUH), he did not know that he was a slave.
Then there came his master and demanded him back, whereupon Allah's Apostle
(PBUH) said: Sell him to me. And he bought him for two black slaves, and he
did not afterwards take allegiance from anyone until he had asked him
whether he was a slave (or a free man).

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 9, Number 368: I came and behold, Allah's Apostle was
staying on a Mashroba (attic room) and a black slave of Allah's Apostle was
at the top if its stairs. I said to him, "(Tell the Prophet) that here is
'Umar bin Al-Khattab (asking for permission to enter)." Then he admitted
me.

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 8, Number 182: Allah's Apostle was on a journey and he
had a black slave called Anjasha, and he was driving the camels (very fast,
and there were women riding on those camels). Allah's Apostle said,
"Waihaka (May Allah be merciful to you), O Anjasha! Drive slowly (the
camels) with the glass vessels (women)!"

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 2, Number 103:Narrated 'Urwa on the authority of
'Aisha: Once the Prophet was screening me and I was watching the display of
black slaves in the Mosque and ('Umar) scolded them. The Prophet said,
'Leave them. O Bani Arfida! (carry on), you are safe (protected)'.

SAHIH MUSLIM Volume 019, Number 4345: ...we attacked from all sides... I
saw a group of persons that consisted of women and children... Among them
was a woman from Banu Fazara. With her was her daughter who was one of the
prettiest girls in Arabia. I brought them to Abu Bakr who bestowed that
girl upon me as a prize. I had not yet disrobed her when the Messenger of
Allah (may peace be upon him) met me in the street and said: Give me that
girl!

SAHIH MUSLIM Volume 019, Number 4364: Then he killed their men, and
distributed their women, children and properties among the Muslims, except
that some of them had joined the Messenger of Allah (may peace be upon him)
who granted them security. They embraced Islam.

SAHIH BUKHARI Volume 4, Number 276: Then the infidels were defeated. By
Allah, I saw the women fleeing lifting up their clothes revealing their
leg-bangles and their legs. So, the companions of 'Abdullah bin Jubair
said, "The booty! O people, the booty !

SAHIH BUKHARI 4:260 Narrated Ikrima: Ali burnt some people and this news
reached Ibn 'Abbas, who said, "Had I been in his place I would not have
burnt them, as the Prophet said, 'Don't punish (anybody) with Allah's
Punishment.' No doubt, I would have killed them, for the Prophet said, 'If
somebody (a Muslim) discards his religion, kill him.' "

SAHIH BUKHARI 9:271 Narrated Abu Musa: A man embraced Islam and then
reverted back to Judaism. Mu'adh bin Jabal came and saw the man with Abu
Musa. Mu'adh asked, "What is wrong with this (man)?" Abu Musa replied, "He
embraced Islam and then reverted back to Judaism." Mu'adh said, "I will not
sit down unless you kill him (as it is) the verdict of Allah and His
Apostle

SAHIH MUSLIM 16:4154 'Abdullah (b. Mas'ud) reported: Allah's Messenger (may
peace be upon him) stood up and said: By Him besides Whom there is no god
but He, the blood of a Muslim who bears the testimony that there is no god
but Allah, and I am His Messenger, may be lawfully shed only in case of
three persons: the one who abandons Islam

SUNAN ABU-DAWUD, Volume 14 (Jihad), Number 2756: Narrated Abdullah ibn
Mas'ud: I heard the Apostle of Allah (peace_be_upon_him) say: Were it not
that you were not a messenger, I would behead you. But today you are not a
messenger. He then ordered Qarazah ibn Ka'b (to kill him). He beheaded him
in the market. Anyone who wants to see Ibn an-Nawwahah slain in the market
(he may see him).


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