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Pim Fortyun voted greatest ever Dutchman

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MikeinCamden

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Nov 17, 2004, 6:43:55 AM11/17/04
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In a TV poll. Mail today. Not long ago he was vilified like Powell.

Stephen Glynn

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Nov 17, 2004, 7:50:51 AM11/17/04
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MikeinCamden wrote:
> In a TV poll. Mail today. Not long ago he was vilified like Powell.

Just looked this up. According to some Dutchman's blog, they started
with a list of 100 and then reduced it to ten by viewers voting. The
top ten, from whom the 'greatest ever Dutchman' was chosen were:


Cruijff, Johan - renowed football player;
Drees, Willem - Dutch prime-minister, "vadertje Drees" (father Drees),
helped the Netherlands to rebuild again after the Second World War;
Erasmus, Desiderius - great humanist;
Fortuyn, Pim - murdered politician, caused a huge shift in Dutch politics;
Frank, Anne - famous Jewish girl who wrote a world-famous diary;
Gogh, Vincent van - world-famous painter;
Leeuwenhoek, Antoni van - famous scientist, developer of the microscope;
Orange, William I of - a really "vader des vaderlands" (pater patriae);
Rijn, Rembrandt van - world-famous painter;
Ruyter, Michiel Adriaenszoon de - great Dutch commander and sailor,
presumably saved the Netherlands from a certain Spanish re-occupation.

I suspect Pim Fortuyn benefited from the outrage at Theo van Gogh's
murder. It would be a bit hard to sustain the case that he was
'greater' than Rembrandt, William of Orange or Admiral de Ruyter.

Steve

MikeinCamden

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Nov 17, 2004, 8:38:13 AM11/17/04
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It would be a bit hard to sustain the case that he was
'greater' than Rembrandt, William of Orange or Admiral de Ruyter.>

Well the people chose did they not?

Stephen Glynn

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Nov 17, 2004, 10:04:55 AM11/17/04
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Foreigners are notoriously odd, particularly after they've had too much
'skunk'.

Steve

MT

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Nov 17, 2004, 12:12:20 PM11/17/04
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In article <3017kaF...@uni-berlin.de>, stephe...@ntlworld.com
says...

OI GLYNN, NOOOOO!!!

You can't say that about foreigners Steve, no no absolutely not.
Saying anything about anyone thats not 100% white English protestant,
could be construed, regardless of however tenuous or factual, as the
first step towards a liking for jackboots and a penchant for jew
gassing!!

MikeinCamden

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Nov 17, 2004, 12:15:32 PM11/17/04
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Foreigners are notoriously odd, particularly after they've had too much
'skunk'.>

Nasty smell of xenophobia Steve. You could find your self in prison under EU
laws before long. You will be saying next you don't want these 'inferior'
foreigners in Britain.

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