The Bombing Has Begun
Zer0
been reports of loud explosions in Kabul and Kandahar.
You read the warning here first - on 05-Oct-2001 at 19:46.
Zer0
Honest John
The Taliban were warned on 9/11.
ok...@server.net
STOP THIS CRIMINAL GENOCIDE!
NO TO WWIII!
blue
Zer0 wrote:
First on uk.poitics.misc ?
dormouse
> In nyc.politics ok...@server.net wrote:
> # Honest John wrote:
> # >
> # > On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 18:54:51 +0100, "Zer0" <ze...@bigwig.net> wrote:
> # >
> # > >The US and the UK have launched military strikes on Afghanistan.
There have
> # > >been reports of loud explosions in Kabul and Kandahar.
> # > >
> # > >You read the warning here first - on 05-Oct-2001 at 19:46.
> # >
> # > The Taliban were warned on 9/11.
> # NO TO WAR ON AFGHANISTAN!
> # STOP THIS CRIMINAL GENOCIDE!
> # NO TO WWIII!
>
> NO TO PARTY-POOPERS LIKE YOU! ;-)
... AND PLEASE DON'T SHOUT :-)
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rag
caves. Their's no war, only justice taking it's course.
rag
<cyp...@punk.net> wrote in message news:9pq6ok$30q$0...@pita.alt.net...
> In nyc.politics ok...@server.net wrote:
> # Honest John wrote:
> # >
> # > On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 18:54:51 +0100, "Zer0" <ze...@bigwig.net> wrote:
> # >
> # > >The US and the UK have launched military strikes on Afghanistan.
There have
Paris
news:9pq5no$k0bkq$1...@ID-19198.news.dfncis.de...
Yup.. Well predicted...
Do the taleban have access to newswires?
Soon the anti-biotics and propoganda leaflets will follow.....
I'm actually growing tired of watching flak teeming ineffectually from
foreign cities as
we bomb and lie our way around the globe..... Is there such a thing as
Karma?
--
Paris. Not the City
http://www.theprotocols.co.uk
Julian D.
I made popcorn, having a grand old time watching those bright pretty
flashes going boom in Kabul thru neat green night-vision lenses.
Word has it that Bush will wait for a bit before deciding to hit Iraq.
Might as well.
I wonder if they're dancing in the streets today?
JD
America will not regress.
Julian D.
NO TO TERRORISM!!!
NO TO WAR ON AMERICA!!!
I'm sure you screamed the above in the past sometime.
Julian D.
wrote:
Must be. The Talibans are experiencing it now.
blue
blue wrote:
After being shown the evidence I retract my previous statement.
Paris
news:43a1st0qr4psqo6o8...@4ax.com...
>Is there such a thing as Karma?
>
> Must be. The Talibans are experiencing it now.
I see... They must have done it then!
The pipeline will just be a bonus for the west I suppose...
> JD
> America will not regress.
America has regressed. Back into the days of expansionism, empire building
and might is right politics.
dudalb
asshole.
Paris
news:1a2w7.8944$3i3.1...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
> Paris (the poster, not the city- probably had a party on Sep 11th. What an
> asshole.
Get your jelly and icecream ready.. Because your TV will soon be awash with
images of dead afghans...
I'm sure that'll make your day...
Julian D.
wrote:
>"dudalb" <dud...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:1a2w7.8944$3i3.1...@newsread1.prod.itd.earthlink.net...
>
>> Paris (the poster, not the city- probably had a party on Sep 11th. What an
>> asshole.
>
>Get your jelly and icecream ready.. Because your TV will soon be awash with
>images of dead afghans...
>I'm sure that'll make your day...
You'll never know how much.
Civilian causalities will be minimal if at all. And I suspect any
civilian casualties will be because the ruling Talibans forced them
into target areas to get them killed so they can blame the U.S.
Stan Rothwell
<ok...@server.net> wrote in message news:3BC0AA...@server.net...
Sorry, but the peace protest was last week.
Your time is up.
Stan Rothwell
Unfortunately, I don't think those phrases
ever passed his lips... :O|
j...@usa.net
hide behind when the freedom troops appear at their front door. "God Bless
America"
Michael W. Lancaster
>> ok...@server.net wrote:
>>
>>NO TO WAR ON AFGHANISTAN!
>>STOP THIS CRIMINAL GENOCIDE!
>>NO TO WWIII!
>
> NO TO TERRORISM!!!
> NO TO WAR ON AMERICA!!!
>
> I'm sure you screamed the above in the
> past sometime.
*****
No, he didn't: he's probably ensconced in a nice
leafy suburb high on dope and of the yo-peace-man
mindset; never having experienced crime or
terrorism.
Michael
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notified accordingly.
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>
> Get your jelly and icecream ready.. Because your
> TV will soon be awash with images of dead
> afghans...
> I'm sure that'll make your day...
*****
Well, boo-hoo! Would you rather have images of
dead Americans and Brits splashed across the
screen every few weeks? I guess so.
Al
<ze...@bigwig.net> writes
>The US and the UK have launched military strikes on Afghanistan. There have
>been reports of loud explosions in Kabul and Kandahar.
>
>You read the warning here first - on 05-Oct-2001 at 19:46.
thanks, this attack is a complete surprise to everyone
--
Al
Kurious Oranj
Would you have said that bombing German cities in WW2 was also a bad idea
and criminal genocide (even though it had the desired effect of getting
Hitler to bomb British cities rather than British airfields?). Of course, by
now you'd be declaring loyalty to the Reich.
Democracy sometimes requires unpleasant actions, because the alternative is
enslavement.
Dr. Bob
wrote:
>America has regressed. Back into the days of expansionism, empire building
>and might is right politics.
Welcome to the NWO.
You left out the journey down the Road To Armegeddon.
Dr. Bob
"The Constitution is not an instrument for the government to restrain the
people, it is an instrument for the people to restrain the government."
- Patrick Henry
Paris
news:3bc0d144....@news-server.houston.rr.com...
> On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 20:30:11 +0100, "Paris" <odes...@my-deja.com>
> wrote:
>
> >America has regressed. Back into the days of expansionism, empire
building
> >and might is right politics.
>
> Welcome to the NWO.
>
> You left out the journey down the Road To Armegeddon.
When they let off the first nuke in a downtown district... You'll wonder
what you were doing tonight...
Paris
> >Get your jelly and icecream ready.. Because your TV will soon be awash
with
> >images of dead afghans...
> >I'm sure that'll make your day...
>
>
> You'll never know how much.
> Civilian causalities will be minimal if at all. And I suspect any
> civilian casualties will be because the ruling Talibans forced them
> into target areas to get them killed so they can blame the U.S.
And you know all this because you're a military expert?
Still, there'll be no cameras there to film the afghans pulling out their
bodies from under the felled buildings...
There'll be nobody there to put out their fires.... Just another bunch of
hapless 3rd worlders, paying the price
yet again for the west...
You're a fucking prick.. How did the UK and the US manage to get such a
dumbed down population?
Paris
news:3BC0BB71...@deadspam.com...
> Well, boo-hoo! Would you rather have images of
> dead Americans and Brits splashed across the
> screen every few weeks? I guess so.
I have familly fighting in this...
You my friend are an idiot... Succored by the nipple of the CNN...
'Droid
>
> "Julian D." <ju...@ersatz.com> wrote in message
> news:nfc1st82qbdrfn388...@4ax.com...
>
> > >Get your jelly and icecream ready.. Because your TV will soon be awash
> with
> > >images of dead afghans...
> > >I'm sure that'll make your day...
> >
> >
> > You'll never know how much.
> > Civilian causalities will be minimal if at all. And I suspect any
> > civilian casualties will be because the ruling Talibans forced them
> > into target areas to get them killed so they can blame the U.S.
>
> And you know all this because you're a military expert?
> Still, there'll be no cameras there to film the afghans pulling out their
> bodies from under the felled buildings...
That at least is the Taliban's fault. They have eliminated one of their most
potent weapons.
'Droid
Julian D.
wrote:
>"Julian D." <ju...@ersatz.com> wrote in message
>news:nfc1st82qbdrfn388...@4ax.com...
>
>> >Get your jelly and icecream ready.. Because your TV will soon be awash
>with
>> >images of dead afghans...
>> >I'm sure that'll make your day...
>>
>>
>> You'll never know how much.
>> Civilian causalities will be minimal if at all. And I suspect any
>> civilian casualties will be because the ruling Talibans forced them
>> into target areas to get them killed so they can blame the U.S.
>
>And you know all this because you're a military expert?
>Still, there'll be no cameras there to film the afghans pulling out their
>bodies from under the felled buildings...
>There'll be nobody there to put out their fires.... Just another bunch of
>hapless 3rd worlders, paying the price
>yet again for the west...
No..this is too carefully planned as to minimize civilian casualties.
Hell, we're giving food and medical aid to them.
>You're a fucking prick.. How did the UK and the US manage to get such a
>dumbed down population?
Your name has some significance to France, a country known only by
what their soldiers backs look like from running away so much, so I
know where your cowardice and pussiness comes from.
I'll clue you in..war is not nice. The military is there to kill
people and break things. They'll try their best to not to kill
civilians. But we're not going to sit back and allow this terrorist
regime survive to strike again, possibly more horrible than before.
You'll just have to sit back and watch America's retribution for a
bit. A thousand of their lives don't equal one American's.
Karen
> Zer0 wrote:
>
> > The US and the UK have launched military strikes on Afghanistan. There have
> > been reports of loud explosions in Kabul and Kandahar.
> >
What the hell are we doing, is this the start of an eye for eye, from
the Christian leaders! or do they call this justice. How long before
we hear of the horror of the women and children that have been hurt,
what a primitive world we live in, where we still throw stones at each
other.
Shaun
>On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 18:54:51 +0100, "Zer0" <ze...@bigwig.net> wrote:
>
>>The US and the UK have launched military strikes on Afghanistan. There have
>>been reports of loud explosions in Kabul and Kandahar.
>>
>>You read the warning here first - on 05-Oct-2001 at 19:46.
>
>The Taliban were warned on 9/11.
>
"Shelter Bin Laden and we'll bomb you. Hand over Bin Laden and we'll
bomb you anyway"
Tough choice
Honest John
<x...@spamwebbuilder.co.uk> wrote:
>Would you have said that bombing German cities in WW2 was also a bad idea
>and criminal genocide (even though it had the desired effect of getting
>Hitler to bomb British cities rather than British airfields?). Of course, by
>now you'd be declaring loyalty to the Reich.
Hitler had bombed Amsterdam, Warsaw and Belgrade before then. he had
no problem with bombing defenceless cities, in the case of the UK he
did it too soon before he had destroyed the RAF.
Maria
>blue <bl...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<3BC09EB8...@ntlworld.com>...
>> Zer0 wrote:
>>
>> > The US and the UK have launched military strikes on Afghanistan. There have
>> > been reports of loud explosions in Kabul and Kandahar.
>> >
>
>What the hell are we doing, is this the start of an eye for eye, from
>the Christian leaders!
God Bless America.
Paris
> No..this is too carefully planned as to minimize civilian casualties.
> Hell, we're giving food and medical aid to them.
Why weren't we doing that before the war?
This has nothing to do with altruism.. it has to do with propoganda
value....
> >You're a fucking prick.. How did the UK and the US manage to get such a
> >dumbed down population?
>
> Your name has some significance to France, a country known only by
> what their soldiers backs look like from running away so much, so I
> know where your cowardice and pussiness comes from.
> I'll clue you in..war is not nice. The military is there to kill
> people and break things. They'll try their best to not to kill
> civilians. But we're not going to sit back and allow this terrorist
> regime survive to strike again, possibly more horrible than before.
> You'll just have to sit back and watch America's retribution for a
> bit. A thousand of their lives don't equal one American's.
The French aren't cowards, and never have been... Nor are their soldiers
inferior, now or ever..
In fact, France has historically been one of the most ferocious and active
military nations in the world...
French soldiers are magnificent, and they come from a line of magnificent
soldiers..
That you believe otherwise is an indication of lack of historical
knowledge...
America is a tyrant.. Plain and simple.. and it will never get rid of
terrorism in this way.. in fact.. what
Bush is doing now is tantamount to suicide. But such is the importance of
the middle east, and the price of oil
on western economies, that your regime is prepared to risk all that for a
few dollars off the price of oil and
giving carte blanche to Israeli expansion into Palastine...
You are a pawn... A citizen, a pleb.
Racists___Religions
1.Church is "two bodies, one Black Christian, one white
Christian-separate and divided.
2.Sudras (Untouchables Hindus)
Hindu Church is "two bodies, one Brahmin Hindu , one Untouchable Hindu
separate and divided.
The holocaust was sponsored by "Christians".
American slavery was "justified" by "Christians".
Please visit:
Sudras (Untouchables Hindus) Holocaust Museum
http://www.dalitstan.org/holocaust/
Fight White Power
Fight Brahmin Hindu Power
Fight Imperialism
Fight Racism
Cliff O'Sullivan
Relax a bit... settle down.. Take a pill. This is not going to grow
into WWIII.
The Murderous Taliban have no international support. Most Muslim are
way too smart to get sucked in by Osama's lies. As a result, The
Taliban will soon fall, and Osama will scramble to save his ass.
The world has no choice but to do this.
You're over-reacting here... chill out a bit, have a java, and save
your child like outbursts for a time when they're really necessary...
Cliff
=========================
ok...@server.net wrote in message news:<3BC0AA...@server.net>...
Honest John wrote:
On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 18:54:51 +0100, "Zer0" <ze...@bigwig.net>
wrote:
The US and the UK have launched military strikes on Afghanistan.
There have been reports of loud explosions in Kabul and Kandahar.
You read the warning here first - on 05-Oct-2001 at 19:46.
The Taliban were warned on 9/11.
NO TO WAR ON AFGHANISTAN!
Bill Willis
Maria wrote:
Indeed Maria and God Save the Queen. :-)
Have a nice evening on this truly glorious day for freedom and democracy which we both
enjoy. Long may it ever be so..
Bill
Cliff O'Sullivan
Come on - the little fellow is having a panic attack, and the best you
can say to him is "PLEASE DON'T SHOUT"!
At least offer words of sympathy for him...
He needs a hug or something. Let's be more compassionate. He sounds
like the kind of person who was never spanked as a child.
Cliff
======================
"dormouse" <sorr...@this.isn't.real> wrote:
# NO TO WAR ON AFGHANISTAN!
# STOP THIS CRIMINAL GENOCIDE!
# NO TO WWIII!
NO TO PARTY-POOPERS LIKE YOU! ;-)
... AND PLEASE DON'T SHOUT :-)
dormouse
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Craig Young
Prognosis: Aerial hombardment will not work. According to the LA Times,
there are massive caverns beneath Kandahar which are probably sheltering
the Taliban and Osama bin Laden.
Problem: There's no easy prospect for a replacement regime in Southern
Afghanistan, even if the Taliban are overthrown. Ergo, I foresee one of
two possible consequences:
(a) Like the mid-nineties, the Pushtuni Southern Afghans will
consolidate around the Taliban because they remember what things
were like beforehand ie the warring mujahedin factions after
the fall of Najbullah in 1994.
or;
(b) there will be no replacement for the Taliban, leading to
a reversion to the mid-nineties dogs breakfast situation.
Both of which mean:
(c) Pakistan will sustain a massive flow of refugees in either case.
Consequences:
(i) Pakistan is already wracked by sectarian hostilities, so the
cumulative consequences of drug trafficking, political polarisation,
widespread corruption, fragmented and weak central authority and
domestic factionalism will take their toll.
Think of Cambodia and the Killing Fields and you might be on the
right track. Pakistan may disintegrate into ethnic and religious
successor states, one of which will be Pushtun and Deobandi.
(ii) India is not terribly objective under the current circumstances.
Remember, its Bharatiya Janata Party government have links to the
Hindu supremacist RSS militia, which demolished the Ahodya mosque in
1993 and made a provocative nuclear test in September 1998 that
incited further tensions. It may be exploiting Islamophobia for its
own ends, and we may be fueling a turn toward religious persecution
and sectarianism within one of the largest nations on earth.
(iii) Kashmir: The Pakistani military, the Taliban and Osama bin
Laden are known to support Sunni fundamentalist militia which
operate from Pakistani Azzad Kashmir. If the Taliban are displaced
and/or Pakistan disintegrates, an existing global flashpoint may
overheat under the burden.
Both Pakistan and India have nuclear weapons.
I note that one of the other mailers did a rather demotic agitprop
post. I hope that my assessment of the current Southwest Asian
strategic situation is pessimistic. I hope I am wrong about
the ultimate consquences of a prolonged conflict.
If not, welcome to a nightmare.
Craig
Julian D.
You're kidding right? Perhaps we should wait until terrorists kill
60,000 Americans before we get your blessing to defend our country and
strike back?
You poor ignorant, naive, gullible woman.
Yes...this is just the start of the thing called 'justice'.
Carefully executed to prevent civilian causalities. Any civilian
casualties will be the fault of the Taliban government. Just like it
was their fault 6,000 civilian casualties got slaughtered at the World
Trade Center.
Dana
"Shaun" <shaun....@sppppaaammmm.ntlworld.com>
wrote in message
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The only response they recognize.
Dana
"Karen" <karen...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:63cd763a.01100...@posting.google.c
om...
Welcome to the real world. This is not about
religion, this is about how humans treat each
other. And it is a sad shame, that it is still
force that gets the proper response needed to keep
peace. Violent people are only kept in line by
violent responses against them. That is a sad
shame, but that is the real world.
Dana
"Maria" <pl...@plonk.com> wrote in message
news:3bc0ec81...@news.ntlworld.com...
Maria understands, how come you do not Karen. I am
sure Maria does not want this to happen, but she
is a realist.
Dana
"Bill Willis" <wwi...@bcpl.lib.md.us> wrote in
message news:3BC0F5ED...@bcpl.lib.md.us...
>
>
> Maria wrote:
>
> > On 7 Oct 2001 16:55:05 -0700,
karen...@hotmail.com (Karen) wrote:
> >
> > >blue <bl...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:<3BC09EB8...@ntlworld.com>...
> > >> Zer0 wrote:
> > >>
> > >> > The US and the UK have launched military
strikes on Afghanistan. There have
> > >> > been reports of loud explosions in Kabul
and Kandahar.
> > >> >
> > >
> > >What the hell are we doing, is this the start
of an eye for eye, from
> > >the Christian leaders!
> >
> > God Bless America.
>
> Indeed Maria and God Save the Queen. :-)
I want to give my heartfelt thanks to our British
friends who have time after time proven they are
Americas true friend.
>
> Have a nice evening on this truly glorious day
for freedom and democracy which we both
> enjoy. Long may it ever be so..
Amen
>
> Bill
>
>
Paris
news:9a5ac3c9.01100...@posting.google.com...
<snip>
> I note that one of the other mailers did a rather demotic agitprop
> post. I hope that my assessment of the current Southwest Asian
> strategic situation is pessimistic. I hope I am wrong about
> the ultimate consquences of a prolonged conflict.
>
> If not, welcome to a nightmare.
Well.. There are generally two schools of thought here...
1) Everyone always thinks the world is going to hell in a transit van..
2) The battle of the Somme wasn't nice...
I subscribe to 2)
I share your hope that your post was pessimistic.. But I fear the worst...
I believe the action is not in fact connected to the WTC bombing, but
Americas Goebells routine is to link
this action with world peace..
With the best will in the world, I fail to see how America feels that this
action is enhancing world stability.
Sometimes I think that if the push came to the shove.. I'd opt to bear arms
against the US.
Dana
"Paris" <odes...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
news:1002483145.25144....@news.demo
n.co.uk...news:43a1st0qr4psqo6o8...@4ax.com...
>
> >Is there such a thing as Karma?
> >
> > Must be. The Talibans are experiencing it now.
>
> I see... They must have done it then!
> The pipeline will just be a bonus for the west I
suppose...
>
> > JD
> > America will not regress.
>
expansionism, empire building
> and might is right politics.
And just what empire do you think we are trying to
make. Those people attacked us first, now it is
payback, and just think in the American tradition
we will rebuild them.
Dave Smith
>
> The French aren't cowards, and never have been... Nor are their soldiers
> inferior, now or ever..
Ha. Didn't you know that the reason that they have so many trees planted along
the streets in Paris was so that the German soldiers could march in the shade.
> In fact, France has historically been one of the most ferocious and active
> military nations in the world...
They had a small empire for a short time. They were defeated by the British
in North America and at home. They were invaded by the Germans twice in the
last century and got their butts kicked both times. If it had not been for
Allied intervention, they would be speaking German in Paris now.
> French soldiers are magnificent, and they come from a line of magnificent
> soldiers..
They may have been good individual soldiers, but they were commanded by
incompetent generals.
> America is a tyrant.. Plain and simple.. and it will never get rid of
> terrorism in this way.. in fact.. what Bush is doing now is tantamount to
> suicide.
Don't bet on it. Terrorism thrives only where there is a place for its
leadership to hide. This is a very clear message to those who offer shelter
and assistance to terrorist will not be able to hide under a cloak of
anonymity. You might remember what a mouthpiece Ghaddafi had been during the
80s, sponsoring terrorism and blustering at the US. An air strike on his
residence gave him a reality check and put him in his place.
Dana
co.uk...
> "Julian D." <ju...@ersatz.com> wrote in message
>
news:nfc1st82qbdrfn388...@4ax.com...
>
> > >Get your jelly and icecream ready.. Because
your TV will soon be awash
> with
> > >images of dead afghans...
> > >I'm sure that'll make your day...
> >
> >
> > You'll never know how much.
> > Civilian causalities will be minimal if at
all. And I suspect any
> > civilian casualties will be because the ruling
Talibans forced them
> > into target areas to get them killed so they
can blame the U.S.
>
> And you know all this because you're a military
expert?
Lets see Saddam did it during the Gulf War, so
more than likely it will happen again.
> Still, there'll be no cameras there to film the
afghans pulling out their
> bodies from under the felled buildings...
> There'll be nobody there to put out their
fires.... Just another bunch of
> hapless 3rd worlders, paying the price
> yet again for the west...
>
> You're a fucking prick.. How did the UK and the
US manage to get such a
> dumbed down population?
Ha ha ha. Go cower in your cave.
Paris
news:7d23f49cb3a17fa9...@meganetnews.com...
> And just what empire do you think we are trying to make.
<snip>
> and just think in the American tradition we will rebuild them.
Indeed it will..
In a nice NWO compliant shape..
Dana
Paris does not seem to understand that western
armies do not target civilians on purpose. Nor
does he understand that western armies abide by an
unwritten law of warfare, where we treat captured
soldiers as humanely as possible, and we carry out
our wars with the intent of avoiding civilian
deaths whenever possible, even at the increased
risks to our soldiers.
Julian D.
wrote:
wow...how surprising.
Wear your uniform backwards frog so it'll at least LOOK like you're
facing us as you run away.
Paris
news:3BC1344C...@sympatico.ca...
> > The French aren't cowards, and never have been... Nor are their soldiers
> > inferior, now or ever..
>
> Ha. Didn't you know that the reason that they have so many trees planted
along
> the streets in Paris was so that the German soldiers could march in the
shade.
Look up 'phoney war' and come back when you have had an education in WW2
history that
isn't :
EVIL NAZIS KILLED JEWS, SO AMERICA KICKED THIER ASSES!
> > In fact, France has historically been one of the most ferocious and
active
> > military nations in the world...
>
> They had a small empire for a short time. They were defeated by the
British
> in North America and at home. They were invaded by the Germans twice in
the
> last century and got their butts kicked both times. If it had not been for
> Allied intervention, they would be speaking German in Paris now.
The Germans would have (did) installed a puppet NAZI government and left
France to be French...
> > French soldiers are magnificent, and they come from a line of
magnificent
> > soldiers..
>
> They may have been good individual soldiers, but they were commanded by
> incompetent generals.
Whatever..
> > America is a tyrant.. Plain and simple.. and it will never get rid of
> > terrorism in this way.. in fact.. what Bush is doing now is tantamount
to
> > suicide.
>
> Don't bet on it. Terrorism thrives only where there is a place for its
> leadership to hide.
What leadership?
Do you suppose that terrorists are like an army, and need a command chain?
Have you never heard of 'terrorist cells' before?
You people constantly amaze me with your bare faced stupidity.
<snip>
Yah yah..
Paris
> > And you know all this because you're a military
> expert?
>
> Lets see Saddam did it during the Gulf War, so
> more than likely it will happen again.
How do you know?
The allies killed thousands of civies with their bombs and is still doing so
with sanctions...
That you believe that every civie killed was a direct victim of Iraq's human
shield policy is a
sad reflection on your grasp of armed conflict and propoganda.
> Ha ha ha. Go cower in your cave.
LOL!
Dana
.co.uk...
> "Julian D." <ju...@ersatz.com> wrote in message
>
news:8dp1stcmo9fr8erdp...@4ax.com...
>
> > No..this is too carefully planned as to
minimize civilian casualties.
> > Hell, we're giving food and medical aid to
them.
>
> Why weren't we doing that before the war?
We were, hell the left in America demonized Bush
for giving humanitarian aid to the Afghans.
Seems in WW2 they went belly up very quickly when
the Germans invaded.
Nor are their soldiers
> inferior, now or ever..
> In fact, France has historically been one of the
most ferocious and active
> military nations in the world...
In the past, and distant history, like prior to
WW2.
> French soldiers are magnificent, and they come
from a line of magnificent
> soldiers..
> That you believe otherwise is an indication of
lack of historical
> knowledge...
Seems you are stuck in the past.
>
> America is a tyrant.. Plain and simple..
Keep thinking that, and maybe next time your
country is invaded we will sit back and just watch
from the sidelines. If we are like you want to
lable us, we would have kept your country after we
forced the Germans out.
and it will never get rid of
> terrorism in this way.. in fact.. what
> Bush is doing now is tantamount to suicide.
Violent people only recognize violence, try waking
up to reality
But such is the importance of
> the middle east, and the price of oil
> on western economies, that your regime is
prepared to risk all that for a
> few dollars off the price of oil and
> giving carte blanche to Israeli expansion into
Palastine...
This has nothing to do with Oil, or Israel.
America was attacked, and we always strike back
when attacked. We are peaceful to a fault, but
when attacked, we become your nightmare come to
life. This attack has even caused our peacenicks
to scream for a payback.
>
> You are a pawn...
Nope we are not socialists.
Dana
> On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 18:54:51 +0100, "Zer0"
>
> >The US and the UK have launched military
strikes on Afghanistan. There have
> >been reports of loud explosions in Kabul and
Kandahar.
> >
05-Oct-2001 at 19:46.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> I made popcorn, having a grand old time watching
those bright pretty
> flashes going boom in Kabul thru neat green
night-vision lenses.
> Word has it that Bush will wait for a bit before
deciding to hit Iraq.
> Might as well.
> I wonder if they're dancing in the streets
today?
And this was only a baby punch, wait to we get
serious.
Paris
> Paris does not seem to understand that western
> armies do not target civilians on purpose. Nor
> does he understand that western armies abide by an
> unwritten law of warfare, where we treat captured
> soldiers as humanely as possible, and we carry out
> our wars with the intent of avoiding civilian
> deaths whenever possible, even at the increased
> risks to our soldiers.
You're right..
I don't understand ...
ok...@server.net
>
> Okask...
>
> Relax a bit... settle down.. Take a pill. This is not going to grow
> into WWIII.
Sure and the horrific events of Sept ll could never happen to *you*!
Do You really believe that those responsible for the lapse of security
on that day, and who are still in control of your government have any
'end game' in mind?
The Pentagon was struck one hour and twenty minutes *after* the WTC.
Now this same leadership are taking the world to war.
Think about where this is going for a change and look into the motives
made clear by Unacal oil company's testimony to your own Congress in
1999.
Or look here;
http://www.konformist.com/911/osama-bush.htm
http://www.apfn.org/bush/bushb.htm
and here;
This is not a hunt for 'terrorists' its a war of illegal
aggression,invasion
and occupation for strategic and economic aims.
http://www.miami.com/herald/special/news/worldtrade/forcesofwar/forcesofwar-1.htm
then look here for some more background;
http://serendipity.magnet.ch/cia.html
>
> The Murderous Taliban have no international support.
You have fallen for the 'logic' that revenge and the hunt for
'terrorists'
is the motive.
Whipped up by the jingoism and war hysteria of your own, and the worlds'
corporate media
you have fallen for a 'crusade' that has an end beyond your own meagre
imaginings.
> Most Muslim are
> way too smart to get sucked in by Osama's lies.
The massive attack on the sovereign nation of Afghanistan will unleash
more disgust and revulsion from people of every nationality in the world
as they come to see the face of the genocide now underway on the
innocents.
Even the most die-hard war monger will lose heart at the sight of the
millions who are now under attack and already dying and starving under
this
barbarity.
>As a result, The
> Taliban will soon fall, and Osama will scramble to save his ass.
The United Nations is the route through the rule of law.
Any nation proceeding above the law, under whatever tenuous 'colour of
law'
will be seen as commiting 'state terrorism' and will be held in history
as no better than the evil it alleges it has set out to erradicate.
>
> The world has no choice but to do this.
The world is saying NO to the Bush edict 'You are either for us or
against us'.
It is up to the nations of the world through international law and the
institutions that civilization has established to pursue, put on trial
and punish
those criminals that have committed these heinous crimes.
In regard to 'state terrorism' and genocide, you should familiarize
yourself
with Nuremburg and other laws that were derived from the result of 40
million
deaths at the hands of Nazi aggression.
>
> You're over-reacting here... chill out a bit, have a java, and save
> your child like outbursts for a time when they're really necessary...
>
> Cliff
To believe, or present to the world that this is a 'humanitarian'
mission
is the supreme folly of those who lust for 'revenge' and thus become the
willing
dupes of corporate greed and and crime.
Imho you are being 'had bad' and any examination of the real aims and
motives behind
this proposed ten year 'war on terrorism' would already reveal
'The cat is out of the bag'.
"the West will continue
to conquer peoples, like it conquered Communism," even if it means
a confrontation with "another civilization, the Islamic one, stuck
where it was 1,400 years ago."
....Italian Prime Minister Silvio Berlusconi
In Germany, Sept 26, 2001
Paris
<snip>
I should print this out and frame it really...
Jonsa
You continually try to make this a war against Afghanistan. It is not. Its
against Al Qaida and those that harbour them. REad the Taliban. Now of
course these guys are just peaceful medieval mysoginists. God forbid we
should go after them.
Have you seen the real horror of war? It starts with 4,000 plus bodies they
can't even find in the rubble and the pieces of humans that they are trying
to identify thru DNA.
You are a real piece of work.
"Karen Gordon" <ar...@FreeNet.Carleton.CA> wrote in message
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> X-No-archive: yes
> blue <bl...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
> >> > The US and the UK have launched military strikes on Afghanistan.
There have
> >> > been reports of loud explosions in Kabul and Kandahar.
>
> Karen (karen...@hotmail.com) writes:
> > What the hell are we doing, is this the start of an eye for eye, from
> > the Christian leaders! or do they call this justice. How long before
> > we hear of the horror of the women and children that have been hurt,
> > what a primitive world we live in, where we still throw stones at each
> > other.
>
> (K): 'An eye for an eye' is the motto of the U.S. government. They're too
> powerful and too smart and too militarily-supreme to experience the
degrading
> and effective attack that the lowly Muslims were able to effect on them in
> New York and Washington. Their mighty and badly surprised government
needs
> to save some face - even if it means killing the hungrioest and poorest
and
> totally innocent.
>
> Wish that it was just 'stones' they were about to hurl at the Afghanis.
It's
> missiles fired from far away . They'll never have to see the results of
their
> deeds: little broken bloody bodies or the animals writhing in their death
> throes.
> This is an 'efficient', long-range assault, you understand. 80% of the
> casualties will be the innocents. 20% may be those who volunteered for
the
> slaughter and the war. Pray for the Americans. They need it more than
their
> perceived enemies in Afghanistan.
>
>
nkennedy
they
can't even find in the rubble and the pieces of humans that they are
trying
"In the beginning there was the word and the word was......"
given to Jonsa who in his unfailing wisdom declared that the horror on
war didn't begin until Sept. 11, 2001.
Aren't we lucky to have a prophet in our midst. Except when called on
it will say that he meant something else by that statement.
Neil K
Mike Price
wrote:
>You're kidding right? Perhaps we should wait until terrorists kill
>60,000 Americans before we get your blessing to defend our country and
>strike back?
>You poor ignorant, naive, gullible woman.
>Yes...this is just the start of the thing called 'justice'.
>Carefully executed to prevent civilian causalities.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I favour the strikes, but lets not kid ourselves. The civilians who
die in this campaign will make the WTC attack look like chicken-feed.
Mike
Mike Price
wrote:
>You'll never know how much.
>Civilian causalities will be minimal if at all.
*Laugh*. You mean CNN will selectively decide what everyone gets to
see. The US is within it's rights to strike back, but let's face it,
the US doesn't have a very good track record of avoiding civilian
casualties in it's strikes.
Mike
Mike Price
wrote:
>No..this is too carefully planned as to minimize civilian casualties.
What evidence do you have to support this claim? I see multiple
strikes by powerful warheads against two major population centres in
Afghanistan. Are all the civilians evacuated or something?
Jonsa
Forgive my mistyping. If you had included the crap that I was responding to,
the context would have been enough for intelligent people to understand what
I meant.
Of course since you can only respond with semantic arguments, I take it you
are not yet old enough to formulate any political opinions worthy of
consideration or debate.
"nkennedy" <nken...@seascape.ns.ca> wrote in message
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nkennedy
you
are not yet old enough to formulate any political opinions worthy of
What's this? A pathetic attempt to appear literate?
Problem is it takes thought, not merely words be be literate.
Ya got a long way ta go buddy.
But you are a back peddler aren't you?
Neil K
Julian D.
wrote:
I'm gonna cut that out and frame that!
Julian D.
Most of the bombs were guided by lasers aimed by our hidden troops
aiming them at the targets. They just werent dropped at a
coordinates, hoping it would hit the target. These were guided in.
Jonsa
Which of course was my point to begin with.
"nkennedy" <nken...@seascape.ns.ca> wrote in message
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Dana
.co.uk...news:144311e24b687a23f2e807b0d1d4f53f@meganetnews.
com...
>
> > > And you know all this because you're a
military
> > expert?
> >
> > Lets see Saddam did it during the Gulf War, so
> > more than likely it will happen again.
>
> How do you know?
> The allies killed thousands of civies with their
bombs and is still doing so
> with sanctions...
> That you believe that every civie killed was a
direct victim of Iraq's human
> shield policy is a
> sad reflection on your grasp of armed conflict
and propoganda.
I was there during the Gulf War.
nkennedy
Who started the degrading impugning of motive to others?
Jonsa that's who. But when "shot with a "ball of his own shit" puts on
the "offended gentleman" face.
Well fuck face if you can disparage others take what you get and
don't cry as you have for the last hour.
"I can take" you say, Well take it. Maybe the next time you'll be more
civil before you attack another poster.
Neil K
Jim Patterson
>blue <bl...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:<3BC09EB8...@ntlworld.com>...
>> Zer0 wrote:
>>
>> > The US and the UK have launched military strikes on Afghanistan. There have
>> > been reports of loud explosions in Kabul and Kandahar.
>> >
>
>What the hell are we doing, is this the start of an eye for eye, from
>the Christian leaders! or do they call this justice. How long before
>we hear of the horror of the women and children that have been hurt,
>what a primitive world we live in, where we still throw stones at each
>other.
Do you wear tie dye and love beads?
Give war a chance.
Honest John
>wow. fixated and apparently unable to actually address the issues at hand.
>Which of course was my point to begin with.
I would say that is an excellent analysis of Kennedy.
Honest John
The difference is that the US is trying to avoid civilian casualties
while Bin Ladin was trying to cause as many of them as possible.
Honest John
wrote:
> "I can take" you say, Well take it. Maybe the next time you'll be more
>civil before you attack another poster.
Huh! Try looking in the mirror.
Jim Patterson
>"Julian D." <ju...@ersatz.com> wrote in message
>news:43a1st0qr4psqo6o8...@4ax.com...
>
>>Is there such a thing as Karma?
>>
>> Must be. The Talibans are experiencing it now.
>
>I see... They must have done it then!
>The pipeline will just be a bonus for the west I suppose...
From Afghanistan? No. There will just plenty of ash for fertilizer
there. The pipelines will be from Saudi Arabia and Iraq though we'll
have to cut russia in on it.
>
>> JD
>> America will not regress.
>
>America has regressed. Back into the days of expansionism, empire building
>and might is right politics.
Yes, gunboat diplomacy should work rather well.
Even if we never particularly did much of the expansionism and empire
building thing off of this continent it will be a refreshing new thing
to try. We are currently designing puppet governments for our newfound
lands. And then of course their are the internment camps to build.
One Person
lets you know it is over. Doesn't sound like you have the stamina to even
be a bystander. Peddle your propaganda elsewhere. You make no mention of
the attack on the sovereign nation of the U.S.A. You only provide excuses
for them to kill our civilians and then turn around and call this an attack
on the sovereign nation of Afghanistan. Get real. Sit it out in the dark
of your closet. You seem quite content to be in the dark from your
comments.
<ok...@server.net> wrote in message news:3BC122...@server.net...
One Person
"Shaun" <shaun....@sppppaaammmm.ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:3bc0ea87...@news.ntlworld.com...
> On Sun, 07 Oct 2001 06:06:55 GMT, h...@taxpayers.ca (Honest John) wrote:
>
> >On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 18:54:51 +0100, "Zer0" <ze...@bigwig.net> wrote:
> >
> >>The US and the UK have launched military strikes on Afghanistan. There
have
> >>been reports of loud explosions in Kabul and Kandahar.
> >>
> >>You read the warning here first - on 05-Oct-2001 at 19:46.
> >
> >The Taliban were warned on 9/11.
> >
> bomb you anyway"
>
> Tough choice
Maybe you missed it--they didn't hand him over.
nkennedy
Oh you're back Honest John, it finally sunk in after hours of watching,
there is no "show", no horror movie. Only a green "screen saver"
It really pisses you off eh? No killing , no blood, especially no BROWN
people running in terror. In short no fun for the sadist "honest john".
Go buy a movie.
Neil K
Jonsa
Since Ms. Gordon seems so intent on accusing the US of atrocities and
embracing the palestinians and Taliban, it seemed evident that she is a
supporter of Terrorism. (but then you have probably never even read the PLO
charter)
If this is a disparagement along the lines of "you have no balls", "dull
drone" and "fuck face" etc. then perhaps you do have a concept of
disproportionate response. Of course in this instance, your response has
failed in its intent. However it has illustrated just how small minded you
are.
If you have anything to contribute in way of a differing opinion regarding
the content of these posts then express them. If the extent of your ability
to articulate can only encompass lame ass disparagement, then I shall
refrain from indulging in response since there appears to be little of value
you have to say.
And yes little man, I can take whatever you could dish out in stride. You
cannot wound me with insults, I have lived too long and experienced too much
for your feeble attempts to effect me.
"nkennedy" <nken...@seascape.ns.ca> wrote in message
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One Person
"Karen" <karen...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> >
> > > The US and the UK have launched military strikes on Afghanistan.
There have
> > > been reports of loud explosions in Kabul and Kandahar.
> > >
>
> the Christian leaders! or do they call this justice. How long before
> we hear of the horror of the women and children that have been hurt,
> what a primitive world we live in, where we still throw stones at each
> other.
Watch the news and learn what the Taliban has done for women and children.
Any wonder why so many have been fleeing Afghanistan since the Taliban took
over.
We are dropping food and medicine for the women and children. They all know
where the military targets will be and should be well away from them by now.
How long before we hear of the terrorists taking out your house and your
city? We have to let them know in terms they understand that we will not
tolerate the actions they perpetrated on 11 September.
Jim Patterson
>"Julian D." <ju...@ersatz.com> wrote in message
>news:8dp1stcmo9fr8erdp...@4ax.com...
>
>> No..this is too carefully planned as to minimize civilian casualties.
>> Hell, we're giving food and medical aid to them.
>
>Why weren't we doing that before the war?
>This has nothing to do with altruism.. it has to do with propoganda
>value....
Now you are showing that you are Paris the idiot, not the sane man.
In the past few years America has been the single greatest contributor
to afghan aid.
>
>The French aren't cowards, and never have been... Nor are their soldiers
>inferior, now or ever..
For sale: French WWII rifle. Dropped only once.
That Maginot line was a great idea...they'd never come through the
forest, would they.
Talk about truly stewwwwwpid...
One Person
>
> > And just what empire do you think we are trying to make.
> <snip>
> > and just think in the American tradition we will rebuild them.
>
> Indeed it will..
> In a nice NWO compliant shape..
>
You can always invite them all to live in your country at your house.
We are thankful to others from your country for the support and
participation. We are not alone in this.
Al-Mu'ayyad
says...
>
>Wish that it was just 'stones' they were about to hurl at the Afghanis. It's
>missiles fired from far away . They'll never have to see the results of their
>deeds: little broken bloody bodies or the animals writhing in their death
>throes.
>This is an 'efficient', long-range assault, you understand. 80% of the
>casualties will be the innocents. 20% may be those who volunteered for the
>slaughter and the war. Pray for the Americans. They need it more than their
>perceived enemies in Afghanistan.
>
>
Last time they killed Pakistani soldiers training for the Kashmire war. They hit
some camps with robot clever bombs, the whoosh ones.
Al-Mu'ayyad
nkennedy
refrain from indulging in response since there appears to be little of
value
Which translates : "I Jonsa am a gutless prick and will vainly try to
"put frosting" on the fact that I'm a quitter, who can start name
calling but can't take on a man."
It was only that you saw Ms Gorden as a woman that you abused her.
You sir, are a cheap, pretentious bit of shallow scum.
Neil K
Jim Patterson
wrote:
>They'll never have to see the results of their
>deeds: little broken bloody bodies or the animals writhing in their death
>throes.
Jeeezus....spare me your visions. You don't know much about what the
talebastards do to people and animals do you.
War is hell. Get used to it, peacenik.
Jonsa
"nkennedy" <nken...@seascape.ns.ca> wrote in message
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nkennedy
Someone would HAVE to prove a point for him, he certainly doesn't have
the mind or the courage to make a point then support it.
Yeah, he can vilify someone because he sees them as inferior because of
their sex, but when called to support it, he hides, kinda' like George W
Bush eh?
Neil K
enterfornone
>You are obviously a supporter of terrorism.
>
>You continually try to make this a war against Afghanistan. It is not. Its
>against Al Qaida and those that harbour them. REad the Taliban. Now of
>course these guys are just peaceful medieval mysoginists. God forbid we
>should go after them.
So we go after them by bombing civilians who are unlucky enough to
reside in the same country. How does that differ from Bin Laden going
after the US by killing innocents in the WTC?
--
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Mim
"enterfornone" <sp...@enterfornone.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 08 Oct 2001 02:50:03 GMT, "Jonsa" <jons...@home.com> wrote:
>
> >You are obviously a supporter of terrorism.
> >
> >You continually try to make this a war against Afghanistan. It is not.
Its
> >against Al Qaida and those that harbour them. REad the Taliban. Now of
> >course these guys are just peaceful medieval mysoginists. God forbid we
> >should go after them.
>
> So we go after them by bombing civilians who are unlucky enough to
> reside in the same country. How does that differ from Bin Laden going
> after the US by killing innocents in the WTC?
Don't pretend silly ignorance, enterfornone. bin Laden's mob deliberately
targeted civilians, aiming to kill as many as possible. The US/UK is
targeting military and other strategic installations, not civilians. (Not
that civilians won't get killed as well.) I'm not suggesting it's the best
strategy - but there *is* a difference.
Jonsa
> reside in the same country. How does that differ from Bin Laden going
> after the US by killing innocents in the WTC?
>
They were given fair warning to give up Bin Ladin and Al Qaida. They chose
not to.
The targets are not civilians. this is not a surprise attack with no
warning.
Bin Ladin has declared war on ALL coalition members, as well as all muslims
who do not support him. He has finally shown his true colors and now has
expressly targeted fellow muslims. This is Haram and shall be condemned by
muslims around the world.
the poor and unfortunate people of Afghanistan have suffered thru decades of
war. There are at least 4 millin refugees. They did not return to
Afghanistan because of the Taliban. The Taliban are unable to feed their
people. They wage a terror war internally against all political opponents.
They are guilty of many crimes against their own people.
They will now pay the price. The people will be fed, the refugees will be
taken care of and hopefully returned to their land. Some innocent people
will die both by coalition actions and by the actions of the Taliban. This
is war and despite the best efforts of combantants, civilians die. It is one
of the prices that is paid in armed conflict.
One Person
>
> >You are obviously a supporter of terrorism.
> >
> >You continually try to make this a war against Afghanistan. It is not.
Its
> >against Al Qaida and those that harbour them. REad the Taliban. Now of
> >course these guys are just peaceful medieval mysoginists. God forbid we
> >should go after them.
>
> So we go after them by bombing civilians who are unlucky enough to
> reside in the same country. How does that differ from Bin Laden going
> after the US by killing innocents in the WTC?
>
Which civilians did we hit?
Cliff Morrison
<a...@def.com> wrote:
> "Paris" <odes...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> news:1002508363.9934.0...@news.demon
> .co.uk...
> > "Dana" <a...@def.com> wrote in message
> >
> news:144311e24b687a23f2e807b0d1d4f53f@meganetnews.
> com...
> >
> > > > And you know all this because you're a
> military
> > > expert?
> > >
> > > Lets see Saddam did it during the Gulf War, so
> > > more than likely it will happen again.
> >
> > How do you know?
> > The allies killed thousands of civies with their
> bombs and is still doing so
> > with sanctions...
> > That you believe that every civie killed was a
> direct victim of Iraq's human
> > shield policy is a
> > sad reflection on your grasp of armed conflict
> and propoganda.
>
> I was there during the Gulf War.
Which side?
And somewhat irrelevant as the majority of civilians killed have been in
the ten years after it allegedly ended.
blue
blue wrote:
> Zer0 wrote:
>
> > The US and the UK have launched military strikes on Afghanistan. There have
> > been reports of loud explosions in Kabul and Kandahar.
> >
> > You read the warning here first - on 05-Oct-2001 at 19:46.
> >
> > Zer0
>
> First on uk.poitics.misc ?
I shall clear up the confusion.
I meant who reported it here first.
You state an earlier warning of the event.
You take me to one side and show me your jwarning.
I retract.
I turns out your prediction was for Monday.
This can work if you meant Monday international dateline.
I believe the first action was by special forces predicted by me.
E. Barry Bruyea
>
>"Paris" <odes...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
>news:1002499300.9860.0...@news.demon
>.co.uk...
>> "Julian D." <ju...@ersatz.com> wrote in message
>>
>news:8dp1stcmo9fr8erdp...@4ax.com...
>>
>> > No..this is too carefully planned as to
>minimize civilian casualties.
>> > Hell, we're giving food and medical aid to
>them.
>>
>> Why weren't we doing that before the war?
>
>We were, hell the left in America demonized Bush
>for giving humanitarian aid to the Afghans.
>
>> This has nothing to do with altruism.. it has to
>do with propoganda
>> value....
>>
>> > >You're a fucking prick.. How did the UK and
>the US manage to get such a
>> > >dumbed down population?
>> >
>> > Your name has some significance to France, a
>country known only by
>> > what their soldiers backs look like from
>running away so much, so I
>> > know where your cowardice and pussiness comes
>from.
>> > I'll clue you in..war is not nice. The
>military is there to kill
>> > people and break things. They'll try their
>best to not to kill
>> > civilians. But we're not going to sit back and
>allow this terrorist
>> > regime survive to strike again, possibly more
>horrible than before.
>> > You'll just have to sit back and watch
>America's retribution for a
>> > bit. A thousand of their lives don't equal one
>American's.
>>
>> The French aren't cowards, and never have
>been...
>
>Seems in WW2 they went belly up very quickly when
>the Germans invaded.
>
> Nor are their soldiers
>> inferior, now or ever..
>> In fact, France has historically been one of the
>most ferocious and active
>> military nations in the world...
>
>In the past, and distant history, like prior to
>WW2.
>
>> French soldiers are magnificent, and they come
>from a line of magnificent
>> soldiers..
>> That you believe otherwise is an indication of
>lack of historical
>> knowledge...
France hasn't won a war since Napoleon died. Hell, Mexican peasants
drove them out of their country with rakes and shovels. And in WWII,
with more men, more guns, more tanks and more planes, France managed
to fold before an inferior German force in 6 weeks. French military
glory is a thing of the long forgotten past.
>
>Seems you are stuck in the past.
>>
>> America is a tyrant.. Plain and simple..
>
>Keep thinking that, and maybe next time your
>country is invaded we will sit back and just watch
>from the sidelines. If we are like you want to
>lable us, we would have kept your country after we
>forced the Germans out.
>
>and it will never get rid of
>> terrorism in this way.. in fact.. what
>> Bush is doing now is tantamount to suicide.
>
>Violent people only recognize violence, try waking
>up to reality
>
> But such is the importance of
>> the middle east, and the price of oil
>> on western economies, that your regime is
>prepared to risk all that for a
>> few dollars off the price of oil and
>> giving carte blanche to Israeli expansion into
>Palastine...
>
>This has nothing to do with Oil, or Israel.
>America was attacked, and we always strike back
>when attacked. We are peaceful to a fault, but
>when attacked, we become your nightmare come to
>life. This attack has even caused our peacenicks
>to scream for a payback.
>>
>> You are a pawn...
>
>Nope we are not socialists.
Brash
--
"Common folk sleep soundly at night knowing that rough men stand ready to do
violence on their behalf."
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> Honest John wrote:
> >
> > On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 18:54:51 +0100, "Zer0" <ze...@bigwig.net> wrote:
> >
> > >The US and the UK have launched military strikes on Afghanistan. There
have
> > >been reports of loud explosions in Kabul and Kandahar.
> > >
> > >You read the warning here first - on 05-Oct-2001 at 19:46.
> >
> > The Taliban were warned on 9/11.
Marcus MacGregor
> targeted civilians, aiming to kill as many as possible. The US/UK is
> targeting military and other strategic installations, not civilians. (Not
> that civilians won't get killed as well.) I'm not suggesting it's the best
> strategy - but there *is* a difference.
Bin Laden did NOT aim to kill as many civilians as possible. Otherwise
the building would of been hit at 11:30 and 50,000 would of died. Or
the planes would of crashed into a nuclear plant....
Brash
--
"Common folk sleep soundly at night knowing that rough men stand ready to do
violence on their behalf."
"Karen" <karen...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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> blue <bl...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:<3BC09EB8...@ntlworld.com>...
> > Zer0 wrote:
> >
> > > The US and the UK have launched military strikes on Afghanistan.
There have
> > > been reports of loud explosions in Kabul and Kandahar.
> > >
>
> What the hell are we doing, is this the start of an eye for eye, from
> the Christian leaders! or do they call this justice. How long before
> we hear of the horror of the women and children that have been hurt,
> what a primitive world we live in, where we still throw stones at each
> other.
Obviously nobody you know or care about was in the WTC or Penatgon. Will it
be okay, or not, to bomb these pricks after they blow up you children's
school?
dormouse
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> On Sun, 7 Oct 2001 18:39:34 -0800, "Dana" <a...@def.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >"Paris" <odes...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
> >news:1002499300.9860.0...@news.demon
> >.co.uk...
> >> "Julian D." <ju...@ersatz.com> wrote in message
> >>
> >> >
> >> inferior, now or ever..
> >> In fact, France has historically been one of the
> >most ferocious and active
> >> military nations in the world...
> >
> >In the past, and distant history, like prior to
> >WW2.
> >
> >> French soldiers are magnificent, and they come
> >from a line of magnificent
> >> soldiers..
> >> That you believe otherwise is an indication of
> >lack of historical
> >> knowledge...
>
> France hasn't won a war since Napoleon died. Hell, Mexican peasants
> drove them out of their country with rakes and shovels. And in WWII,
> with more men, more guns, more tanks and more planes, France managed
> to fold before an inferior German force in 6 weeks. French military
> glory is a thing of the long forgotten past.
In fact considering how the pigmy bandit ended up (defeated in Egypt, the
Peninsular, Russia and of course at the end of his come-back tour at
Waterloo) it may be just a tad more accurate to say that France hasn't won
a war since the time of Vauban and Louis XIV. Of course just because they're
a bunch of garlic munching surrender merchants it doesn't make them bad
people.
Still lets not forget de Gaul's famous phrase when used in gratitude of the
way we in Britain saved him personally, helped him become head of state,
saved his country when we asked for support to join the EEC (as was), "Non!"
... bastard.
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dormouse
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Oh we all feel sooooo much better for that, gosh only 6,000 killed when he
could have killed 50,000, that's a lot of comfort that is.
Marcus MacGregor
> You are obviously a supporter of terrorism.
Just because someone advocates non-violent methods does not mean they
are terrorist supporters. Gandi would oppose the "War on Terrorism".
Jesus would oppose the "War on Terrorism". Muhammed would oppose the
"War on Terrorism". None of them are terrorists.
>
> You continually try to make this a war against Afghanistan. It is not. Its
> against Al Qaida and those that harbour them. REad the Taliban. Now of
> course these guys are just peaceful medieval mysoginists. God forbid we
> should go after them.
It is a war on their hotel clerks. It is a war on their waitresses. It
is a war on their gas jockeys. It is a war on their neighbours. It is
a war on their teachers. It is a war on their families. It is a war on
their roommates.
If you have ever bumped into a terrorist, we will shoot you. And don't
bother defending yourself, we know terrorists lie so we kill them with
trial.
>
> Have you seen the real horror of war? It starts with 4,000 plus bodies they
> can't even find in the rubble and the pieces of humans that they are trying
> to identify thru DNA.
Well are we going to give airtime to the twisted corpses of
Afganistan. Does seeing it on TV make it more real for you? Do certain
lives have less value to you?
>
> You are a real piece of work.
And so are you...
>
>
Marcus MacGregor
> > >
> > > >The US and the UK have launched military strikes on Afghanistan. There
> have
> > > >been reports of loud explosions in Kabul and Kandahar.
> > > >
> > >
> > > The Taliban were warned on 9/11.
> > NO TO WAR ON AFGHANISTAN!
> > STOP THIS CRIMINAL GENOCIDE!
> > NO TO WWIII!
>
> Your time is up.
Ummm...it is not peace one week then war the rest of the time.
This could lead to WWIII and you are being contrite.
This reckless behaviour is criminal.
Armageddon MUST be avoided at all costs.
Even if that means America can't swagger around anymore.