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arealman  
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 More options Jul 11 2004, 1:59 pm
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From: "arealman" <Ma...@PlayboyInternational.Int>
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 18:59:27 +0100
Local: Sun, Jul 11 2004 1:59 pm
Subject: INSECT MURDER - NEW CRIME
There was a story in the paper about a new law which would make it illegal
to kill ants, snails etc.
Upon conviction, offenders can be gaoled. I kid you not !

( It's still OK for bogus asylum seekers  with no licence to kill white
girls in unfit motor vehicles )

I missed the story myself but have found a link relating to the law in
Germany. They have appointed *% ant protection officers.

One can guess this is more EU madness but if not, it soon will be.

What will the frogs do with no escargos...

But if you think this is strange, there are still people out there who think
Europe is good for us. I guess for somew, the lights just never got switched
on.

http://www.techfocus.org/print.php?id=3120

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Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 19:12:16 +0100
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Subject: Re: INSECT MURDER - NEW CRIME
( Whoops - that should have read :- )

There was a story in the paper about a new law which would make it illegal
to kill ants, snails etc.
Upon conviction, offenders can be gaoled. I kid you not !

( It's still OK for bogus asylum seekers  with no licence to kill white
girls in unfit motor vehicles )

I missed the story myself but have found a link relating to the law in
Germany. They have appointed 85 ant protection officers.

One can guess this is more EU madness but if not, it soon will be.

What will the frogs do with no escargos...

But if you think this is strange, there are still people out there who think
Europe is good for us. I guess for some, the lights just never got switched
on.

http://www.techfocus.org/print.php?id=3120


 
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From: Fenris Wolf <Fen...@reality8.demon.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2004 19:11:53 +0100
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Subject: Re: INSECT MURDER - NEW CRIME
In article <ccruoo$rvd$1$830fa...@news.demon.co.uk>, arealman <Macho@Pla
yboyInternational.Int> writes

>There was a story in the paper about a new law which would make it illegal
>to kill ants, snails etc.
>Upon conviction, offenders can be gaoled. I kid you not !

You will find both the stories relating to this on the 1st site in my
sig.

Thank you for this item.

Since the RSPCA is a member of the Eurogroup for animal welfare, whose
home page is here:  http://www.eurogroupanimalwelfare.org/
it is possible that this is a concerted push to impose EU-wide laws.  

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 More options Jul 11 2004, 2:32 pm
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Date: 11 Jul 2004 11:32:15 -0700
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Subject: Re: INSECT MURDER - NEW CRIME
I would happily welcome a law which made it illegal to kill any insect
whatsoever, however annoying if one was able to quite legally get rid
of other little annoying things which bred like flies I tell you.

 
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From: "aria...@mac.hush.com" <aria...@mac.hush.com>
Date: 11 Jul 2004 13:05:54 -0700
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Subject: Re: INSECT MURDER - NEW CRIME

MrMoor wrote:
> I would happily welcome a law which made it illegal to kill any
insect
> whatsoever, however annoying if one was able to quite legally get rid
> of other little annoying things which bred like flies I tell you.

Is that an oblique reference to the birth-rate in Gaza - EU/UN
sponsored and the highest in the world?

 
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Date: 11 Jul 2004 13:14:08 -0700
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Subject: Re: INSECT MURDER - NEW CRIME

I think slugs and snails should be allowed to live.  Wasps are
beneficial insects, so likewise.  I wouldn't eat snails, frogs
or any kind of insect.

A lot of chemicals we use to kill insects are very harmful to
us so not using them is a very good idea.

A problem would arise when an essential food crop was affected
by some harmful insect, I imagine.

Rabbits do a lot of damage too.

None of them should be given a lingering death but that
goes too for the poor animals that are half-killed by poor shots
and have to be put out of their misery by gamekeepers after
the Glorious Twelfth.  If that still happens.


 
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Date: 11 Jul 2004 14:40:01 -0700
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Subject: Re: INSECT MURDER - NEW CRIME

> > I would happily welcome a law which made it illegal to kill any
> insect
> > whatsoever, however annoying if one was able to quite legally get
rid
> > of other little annoying things which bred like flies I tell you.

> Is that an oblique reference to the birth-rate in Gaza - EU/UN
> sponsored and the highest in the world?

maybe someone should put a rumour about that bromide is halal!

 
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 08:41:16 +0100
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Subject: Re: INSECT MURDER - NEW CRIME

****************************************************
I was sure you would have seen this! They're going to be very busy on the
continent. They're in Greece atr the moment we hear collecting up all the
dogs. We don;t know what they're doing with them, we hear its in response
to the Gtreek authorities deciding they don;t want loads of stray dogs
around for the games....
Now then what is the RSPCA doing with them? Are there any soap factories
like the Port Sunlight (Wirral) or dog food factories or compost factories
over there? Never been to Greece!
I should like to ask them if they propose to do with the dogs what they
did at Blackberry Farm two Xmas ago? Blackberry Farm being the place that
appears on TV non stop I hear.
Our local paper siad that they are already in some sort of trouble with
their new set up near Telford. I meant to clip it and forgot being soooo
busy, probably on the Star archives though. Another piece I meant to keep
the RSPCA went inot someone's home and left it in rather a mess!
You can imagine how much they could make from the publicity films re
cruelty to slugs and snails can't you. Perhaps people had better look at
their own record!
Watchdog cutting and video cutting in REAL or ASF if you prefer
http://www.walk-wales.org.uk/freedomf.htm

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From: Welsh Witch <w...@nospam.never.cop>
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 08:57:50 +0100
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Subject: Re: INSECT MURDER - NEW CRIME

On Sun, 11 Jul 2004 13:14:08 -0700, aria...@mac.hush.com wrote:

<snip>

> None of them should be given a lingering death but that goes too for the
> poor animals that are half-killed by poor shots and have to be put out
> of their misery by gamekeepers after the Glorious Twelfth.  If that
> still happens.

************************************************ No one wants any animal
or sentient being to have a long lingering death. There;s always a
question of where you draw the line. We have bull fighting in Spain and as
mentioned the eating of frogs legs. Govt for strict ban on export of frog
legs
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
TIMES NEWS NETWORK[ SATURDAY, JUNE 21, 2003 01:15:45 PM ]

PANAJI: The state government will vigorously implement the ban on
catching, killing and export of frog legs.
The government has said that "catching, killing and exporting of frogs for
meat contravenes the provisions of Wildlife (Protection) Act, 1972 and
attracts stringent punishment under the said Act."
Chief conservator of forests, D Pandey said the forest rangers chased away
some people catching frogs in Valpoi area in North Goa.
With the onset of monsoon, the frogs come out of hibernation for breeding
and mating when the people catch them, said Mr Pandey who is also the
chief wildlife warden.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
I don;t know why frogs are to be a protected species if so are we all to
become vegetarians/ OR is it the barbaric way they had of killing the
frogs. They used to cut the front legs off the frogs and throw the
remaining frog into a pile to die slowly from suffocation or trauma.
Its a funny thing if the RSPCA think they're going to get their
sticky fingers on Eu money as the Eu offers money to the regions to set up
dog farms! The country people are being bribed with their own money from
Europe and they seem unable to see it.
 This and previous years the animal welfare people are having and offering
trips to Prince Edward island to MPs et al to show them the clubbing
of baby seals. What sort of people could go to watch that to get a trip
out.
 They'll be lining up trips all over the place in Europe to inspect
the French worm farms too that should be a good one ...to the wine
regions. Our local rep used to go to the Smithfield on Wednesday, market
day and be wheeled home in a wheel barrow:-)
****************************************************************

He said the ban is always there but during the monsoon, due to the
practice of catching the frogs for consumption, the department has alerted
the people.

"Frog legs are considered a delicacy and popular as jumping chicken. Some
restaurants, despite the ban serve the dish which is also known as white
meat," said Norma Alvares, president of People for Animals-Goa.

Ms Alvares, who was awarded Padamshree in 2002 for animal welfare
activities, said frog catchers shine torches in the night when frogs come
out and stun the animals using a stick. The frogs make themselves known by
their croaks.

Select clients visit certain restaurants, which serve to orders placed in
confidence. The restaurants are said to be along the coastline, near the
beaches. For its high price and the confidentiality, the frog legs are
made available very selectively. The demand for the frog legs in coastal
Goa is also because of the presence of foreign tourists.

Ms Alvares said "the cruelty is shocking as the animals are left to die
after the legs are chopped off." The frog legs, reportedly, were exported
some two decades ago.

The information department that circulated a press note has educated the
people of the importance of frogs because of their specialised feeding
habits, insects and vectors responsible for various diseases like
encephalitis, malaria, filaria. etc.

The government has stated further that frogs play a vital role in the food
chain of an eco system and thus contribute greatly to the ecological
balance of nature.

It has requested the general public "not to indulge in catching, killing
and selling frogs or serving frog meat in eating places."


 
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Date: 12 Jul 2004 09:05:28 -0700
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If you criminalise an entire population by making more and more
ordinary things criminal you have got control of the population.  They
are too afraid to retaliate, especially when they have been deprived
of any physical means of protest, ie weapons.

 
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Date: 12 Jul 2004 09:26:34 -0700
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Subject: Re: INSECT MURDER - NEW CRIME

Would this come from the same long line of bogus anti-EU stories like
the straightness of bananas test?

Ian


 
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:14:39 +0100
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Subject: Re: INSECT MURDER - NEW CRIME
Not if you look at the given links.

And the Banana story was linked to the appropriate EU law in this very
newsgroup not more than 3 months ago.  Go fetch ! ( google )

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Date: 12 Jul 2004 11:22:04 -0700
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Subject: Re: INSECT MURDER - NEW CRIME

> If you criminalise an entire population by making more and more
> ordinary things criminal you have got control of the population.
They
> are too afraid to retaliate, especially when they have been deprived
> of any physical means of protest, ie weapons.

You could also make it that the fear of becoming a criminal is not as
much the stigma as it once was, there may be less holding people back
and there is the saying better to be hung as the sheep than the lamb.
the outcome of this? maybe insect murder may be illegal but politicians
are more reptiles and could be seen as fair game.

 
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 19:24:43 +0000 (UTC)
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arealman wrote:
> Not if you look at the given links.

> And the Banana story was linked to the appropriate EU law in this very
> newsgroup not more than 3 months ago.  Go fetch ! ( google )

There are a load of attention diverting bollocks stories like the "straight
banana" myth, or the "re-name the sausage" myth or "re-name chocolate"
myth. The "sausage one was actually a traceable piece of fiction from the
sit-com 'Yes Minister' but it still became an urban myth like all the
others.

The real question is why you idiots have to invent silly myths in the first
place.


 
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Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2004 22:19:54 +0100
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Subject: Re: INSECT MURDER - NEW CRIME
Having trouble with your reading son ?

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arealman wrote:
> Having trouble with your reading son ?

No, just a bit with your inventing.


 
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Subject: Re: INSECT MURDER - NEW CRIME
In uk.politics.misc on Sun, 11 Jul 2004 at 18:59:27, arealman wrote :

>There was a story in the paper about a new law which would make it illegal
>to kill ants, snails etc.
>Upon conviction, offenders can be gaoled. I kid you not !

I have a funny feeling there's some misinterpreting going on, though.

I wonder if house-flies are included?

In any case, it's hard to kill the little bastards - they're too fast to
swat, and they seem to be getting immune to fly-sprays...
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One gathers you had trouble in operating Google sophisticated search engine
to find the link.

Sod it, I'll go pour me another glass of Champa's. I really can't be
bothered with you now.

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Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2004 23:34:02 +0100
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Subject: Re: INSECT MURDER - NEW CRIME
In article <pan.2004.07.12.07.41.14.643...@nospam.never.cop>, Welsh
Witch <w...@nospam.never.cop> writes

>>>http://www.techfocus.org/print.php?id=3120

>> Thank you for this item.

>> Since the RSPCA is a member of the Eurogroup for animal welfare, whose
>> home page is here:  http://www.eurogroupanimalwelfare.org/ it is possible
>> that this is a concerted push to impose EU-wide laws.
>****************************************************
>I was sure you would have seen this!

There is a new site  

Campaign for Change in the RSPCA

http://cheetah.webtribe.net/~campaign/index.htm#Commentaries

Make sure you take a look at the case histories.

--
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RSPCA-Animadversion

http://cheetah.webtribe.net/~animadversion/

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Subject: Re: INSECT MURDER - NEW CRIME

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arealman

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> In uk.politics.misc on Sun, 11 Jul 2004 at 18:59:27, arealman wrote :
> >There was a story in the paper about a new law which would make it
illegal
> >to kill ants, snails etc.
> >Upon conviction, offenders can be gaoled. I kid you not !

> I have a funny feeling there's some misinterpreting going on, though.

> I wonder if house-flies are included?

> In any case, it's hard to kill the little bastards - they're too fast to
> swat, and they seem to be getting immune to fly-sprays...
> --
> Paul Hyett, Cheltenham

Try hair spray. It does'nt kill them but after 5 minutes , their wings set
and that annoying buzz disappears.

Now you are both on foot !


 
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