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Robert Henderson

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Jun 9, 2002, 1:20:04 PM6/9/02
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The Sunday Quislingraph (9 June) reports that the Government is
preparing three ex-forces camps to take an anticipated influx of tens of
thousands fleeing from Kashmir. The upper limit is estimated at 1
million by the home Office. RH
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peter

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In article <$8e1TWAE...@anywhere.demon.co.uk>, Robert Henderson
<Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> stated: -

>The Sunday Quislingraph (9 June) reports that the Government is
>preparing three ex-forces camps to take an anticipated influx of tens of
>thousands fleeing from Kashmir. The upper limit is estimated at 1
>million by the home Office. RH


it is high time the tunnel was flooded - anyone ex Army C4 with terminal
cancer on the list?

Robin Carmody

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peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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I rather hope that one of the mysterious "three ex-forces camps" is near
Sturminster Newton, just to imagine your response!

--
Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset


Robert Henderson

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Jun 10, 2002, 2:15:49 AM6/10/02
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In article <ae0rka$d8k$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> writes

All in the north of England. A great pity one was not in Portland, smack
bang against your house. RH

>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset

peter

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Jun 10, 2002, 5:09:19 AM6/10/02
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In article <bQb8IjAV...@anywhere.demon.co.uk>, Robert Henderson

<Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> stated: -
>In article <ae0rka$d8k$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
><ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>>peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:+LGRDuTl...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk...
>>> In article <$8e1TWAE...@anywhere.demon.co.uk>, Robert Henderson
>>> <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> stated: -
>>> >The Sunday Quislingraph (9 June) reports that the Government is
>>> >preparing three ex-forces camps to take an anticipated influx of tens of
>>> >thousands fleeing from Kashmir. The upper limit is estimated at 1
>>> >million by the home Office. RH
>>>
>>>
>>> it is high time the tunnel was flooded - anyone ex Army C4 with terminal
>>> cancer on the list?
>>
>>I rather hope that one of the mysterious "three ex-forces camps" is near
>>Sturminster Newton, just to imagine your response!
>>

I would simply send them to Portland - no doubt you would open your home
to them all, you seem to think the UK has so much empty housing that it
can take on any number of refugees. You no doubt eagerly await the
arrival of the million or so Kashmiris the government is preparing to
house.
What fun.

>>--
>
>All in the north of England. A great pity one was not in Portland, smack
>bang against your house. RH
>
>>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>>
>>
>

--
peter

Maria

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Jun 10, 2002, 5:51:29 AM6/10/02
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On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 18:20:04 +0100, Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>The Sunday Quislingraph (9 June) reports that the Government is
>preparing three ex-forces camps to take an anticipated influx of tens of
>thousands fleeing from Kashmir. The upper limit is estimated at 1
>million by the home Office. RH

If they do it will be because they have to IMHO. Kashmire is a beautiful place and
most Kashmiri's I have known have wanted to just live there in peace (it not being
a disease ridden poverty-stricken fleapit)

carldent

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Jun 10, 2002, 6:27:32 AM6/10/02
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million by the home Office. RH
>
>
> it is high time the tunnel was flooded - anyone ex Army C4 with terminal
> cancer on the list?

I rather hope that one of the mysterious "three ex-forces camps" is near
Sturminster Newton, just to imagine your response!

--
Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset

###############
I like it but as far as I know I have not got terminal cancer.
It would be better done from above the Tunnel if anyone were to do it, where
to place charges could be found by sound, or ultra sounding, or GPS.
Though saying that do you remember the fire they had there that nearly
caused a collapse I believe, so maybe a convenient rail tanker may do the
trick.

John Bull

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Jun 10, 2002, 8:03:24 AM6/10/02
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Personally I welcome this development, and to make room for them all I
suggest we send all the Irish back were they came from.


Joseph Hutcheon

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Jun 10, 2002, 8:02:33 AM6/10/02
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Liverpool?

Steve Glynn

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Jun 10, 2002, 7:31:01 AM6/10/02
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"Maria" <pl...@plonk.com> wrote in message
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But your judgement is skewed, Maria, as is mine, by actually having visited
the place.

You know perfectly well that it's against the rules on UKPM to introduce
facts or knowledge into any discussion about race and immigration, because
it just confuses people. Don't do it again -- you know you only do it to
upset people.

The place is in Asia, so it's self-evident that Britain making contingency
plans, in common with lots of other countries, to deal with the survivors of
a nuclear catastrophe that, pray God, won't happen, is yet another example
of political correctness gone mad dreamed up by the liberal bigot elite,
since the only reason these Kashmiris want to come here is to take advantage
of our legendarily generous benefits system, queue jump for housing and
hospital places which by rights should go to English little old ladies, in
return for which these Kashmiris will vote Labour when they aren't busy
stealing peoples' jobs and mugging them.

It's probably something to do with the EU, anyway.

There. I hope that's lowered the blood pressure of some of our regular
immigration nuts, and saved them the trouble of expressing, yet again,
their cogent views of the survival of our nation.

Steve


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Robert Henderson

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Jun 10, 2002, 9:19:02 AM6/10/02
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In article <3d047656...@news.ntlworld.com>, Maria
<pl...@plonk.com> writes

What relevance does that have to the chaos a million immigrants would
have on Britain? RH

Robin Carmody

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Jun 10, 2002, 10:44:45 AM6/10/02
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Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <ae0rka$d8k$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> writes
> >
> >I rather hope that one of the mysterious "three ex-forces camps" is near
> >Sturminster Newton, just to imagine your response!
> >
> >--
>
> All in the north of England. A great pity one was not in Portland, smack
> bang against your house. RH

But I would not have reacted in the same way that Peter would.

Robin Carmody

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Jun 10, 2002, 10:46:53 AM6/10/02
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peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> >
> >>I rather hope that one of the mysterious "three ex-forces camps" is near
> >>Sturminster Newton, just to imagine your response!
> >>
>
> I would simply send them to Portland - no doubt you would open your home
> to them all, you seem to think the UK has so much empty housing that it
> can take on any number of refugees. You no doubt eagerly await the
> arrival of the million or so Kashmiris the government is preparing to
> house.
> What fun.

That is a ridiculous exaggeration of my position. I believe that arrivals
in this country have to be kept under control. However I am not so
malicious and mean-spirited as to believe that we cannot accomodate *any*.
I would be quite happy for a small number of Kashmiris to settle on
Portland: for a start, it would widen the gene pool!

Joseph Hutcheon

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Jun 10, 2002, 10:50:31 AM6/10/02
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I had a frightening experience on Portland many years ago. I still
have nightmares about it. Nowt to do with Kashmiris though.

Robin Carmody

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Jun 10, 2002, 11:09:05 AM6/10/02
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Joseph Hutcheon <j.hut...@jisc.ac.uk> wrote in message
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>
> I had a frightening experience on Portland many years ago. I still
> have nightmares about it. Nowt to do with Kashmiris though.

Go on Joseph, share the gruesome details!

Maria

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Jun 10, 2002, 11:15:03 AM6/10/02
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 14:19:02 +0100, Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <3d047656...@news.ntlworld.com>, Maria
><pl...@plonk.com> writes
>>On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 18:20:04 +0100, Robert Henderson
>><Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>>
>>>The Sunday Quislingraph (9 June) reports that the Government is
>>>preparing three ex-forces camps to take an anticipated influx of tens of
>>>thousands fleeing from Kashmir. The upper limit is estimated at 1
>>>million by the home Office. RH
>>
>>If they do it will be because they have to IMHO. Kashmire is a beautiful place
>>and
>>most Kashmiri's I have known have wanted to just live there in peace (it not
>>being
>>a disease ridden poverty-stricken fleapit)
>
>What relevance does that have to the chaos a million immigrants would
>have on Britain? RH

What I'm saying is that I don't think it will happen.
1) I think the whole Indian/Pakistan situation is being blown out of proportion.
The reason? Don't know yet, but possibly dog-wagging or an excuse for cracking down
on civil liberties.
2) Like I said, I think in general they are happy there and won't want to come here.

However, should Bush et al bait the two into continuing the conflict to the point of
full scale war, then maybe they will come.
Maybe Bush should offer them sanctuary in the US.

Joseph Hutcheon

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On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 16:09:05 +0100, "Robin Carmody"
<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>Joseph Hutcheon <j.hut...@jisc.ac.uk> wrote in message
>news:3d04bc7e...@news.cis.dfn.de...
>>
>> I had a frightening experience on Portland many years ago. I still
>> have nightmares about it. Nowt to do with Kashmiris though.
>
>Go on Joseph, share the gruesome details!

Right. I was walking along the beach on Portland, waiting for my wife
who'd stopped to lok at some fossils or somesuch. Suddenly, these two
HUGE dogs ran up to me, one of them pinning me up against a cliff.
The owner called out 'He's only playing, don't let him think you're
afraid', and tried to get the dog to back off (its companion was
snapping at my legs by this stage).

Finally the owner distracted the dogs by throwing some stones for them
to chase. Apart from a lot of dog slobber over my T shirt I was
unharmed, but considerably shaken.

Ive only just thought - the owner might have been our own Welsh Witch
on holiday in Dorset!

billy

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"Robert Henderson" <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> The Sunday Quislingraph (9 June) reports that the Government is
> preparing three ex-forces camps to take an anticipated influx of tens of
> thousands fleeing from Kashmir. The upper limit is estimated at 1
> million by the home Office. RH
> --
> Robert Henderson
******************
Robert,
there is no need for any so called refugees.
Both countries are sufficiently large to evacuate the vulnerable from the
fighting area.
Both countries should do as wartime Britain did: evacuate children to
comparatively safe zones and demand that the able bodied give support in the
battle.
What would have happened to this country if masses of the population had
taken to ferries to escape to (shamefully) neutral Ireland (not that the
Irish would have accepted them) to avoid the bombing?
Knowing the Irish, they would have pelted the "refugees" with stones before
they could step ashore.
However, the British did not seek flight but were prepared to fight - for
the benefit of all the world (including the Irish) and thereby maintaining a
now daft country that accepts those who use every conceivable excuse to come
here.
regards, billy
***************


Reginald Bosanquet

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Jun 10, 2002, 11:47:14 AM6/10/02
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Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<$8e1TWAE...@anywhere.demon.co.uk>...
> The Sunday Quislingraph (9 June) reports that the Government is
> preparing three ex-forces camps to take an anticipated influx of tens of
> thousands fleeing from Kashmir. The upper limit is estimated at 1
> million by the home Office. RH


Good luck. Blair will be importing terrorism. Importing the same
people who want to kill 1 million American children.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,54868,00.html

Reginald Bosanquet

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Jun 10, 2002, 11:48:40 AM6/10/02
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Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message news:<$8e1TWAE...@anywhere.demon.co.uk>...
> The Sunday Quislingraph (9 June) reports that the Government is
> preparing three ex-forces camps to take an anticipated influx of tens of
> thousands fleeing from Kashmir. The upper limit is estimated at 1
> million by the home Office. RH

Robin Carmody

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Joseph Hutcheon <j.hut...@jisc.ac.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Right. I was walking along the beach on Portland, waiting for my wife
> who'd stopped to lok at some fossils or somesuch. Suddenly, these two
> HUGE dogs ran up to me, one of them pinning me up against a cliff.
> The owner called out 'He's only playing, don't let him think you're
> afraid', and tried to get the dog to back off (its companion was
> snapping at my legs by this stage).
>
> Finally the owner distracted the dogs by throwing some stones for them
> to chase. Apart from a lot of dog slobber over my T shirt I was
> unharmed, but considerably shaken.
>
> Ive only just thought - the owner might have been our own Welsh Witch
> on holiday in Dorset!

Or it might just have been the bloke who lives opposite me, who owns two
absolutely terrifying German Shepherds!

Thanks for that,

peter

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Jun 10, 2002, 12:03:48 PM6/10/02
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In article <ae2e4s$ufl$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
you have no idea how I would have reacted - as it is an academic
question I suggest you stick to the script that Millbank gave you.

>--
>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>
>

--
peter

peter

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In article <ae2e8u$vtk$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -

>peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:hTxW1bb$yGB9...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk...
>> >
>> >>I rather hope that one of the mysterious "three ex-forces camps" is near
>> >>Sturminster Newton, just to imagine your response!
>> >>
>>
>> I would simply send them to Portland - no doubt you would open your home
>> to them all, you seem to think the UK has so much empty housing that it
>> can take on any number of refugees. You no doubt eagerly await the
>> arrival of the million or so Kashmiris the government is preparing to
>> house.
>> What fun.
>
>That is a ridiculous exaggeration of my position.

Well now you know how it feels

> I believe that arrivals
>in this country have to be kept under control.

so we agree

> However I am not so
>malicious and mean-spirited as to believe that we cannot accomodate *any*.

I think we might perhaps accommodate more if we could rid ourselves of
those who are illegally here already


>I would be quite happy for a small number of Kashmiris to settle on
>Portland: for a start, it would widen the gene pool!

Is that a good thing? If so why? Are you one of these sixties flower
children who want "coffee coloured people by the score"?

>
>--
>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>
>

--
peter

billy

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"Maria" <pl...@plonk.com> wrote in message
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**************
Maria the Queer,
It is not that they *have* to, it is that they *want* to.
If it is such a beautiful place, why are the Kashmiris not flocking at
Heathrow to go back there?
The reason is "beauty" does not come into it. For instance: The West Indians
left a paradise of perpetual summer to come to rain drenched Britain.
Why?
*Benefits and NHS and council houses.*
That is why; and the so called refugees will use any excuse to "benefit"
from the same "benefits".
They will tell you to stuff the beautiful hills and even living in peace
amongst the beautiful hills:
Bradford will do if there is *benefits* and more *benefits*.
That is what they want and why they risk anything and everything to get
here.
Take away the benefits and they will cease to come.
regards, billy
*************

Binky Dawkins

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Jun 10, 2002, 12:37:10 PM6/10/02
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"Maria" <pl...@plonk.com> wrote in message
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Sounds great. However it contradicts the opinions of the Kashmiris that I
know. They say it is beautiful but poverty stricken. That is why they send a
part of their salaries back home every month, because their families are,
err poverty stricken.


carldent

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Jun 10, 2002, 12:47:48 PM6/10/02
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In article <3d047656...@news.ntlworld.com>, Maria
<pl...@plonk.com> writes
>On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 18:20:04 +0100, Robert Henderson
><Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>The Sunday Quislingraph (9 June) reports that the Government is
>>preparing three ex-forces camps to take an anticipated influx of tens of
>>thousands fleeing from Kashmir. The upper limit is estimated at 1
>>million by the home Office. RH
>
>If they do it will be because they have to IMHO. Kashmire
################
WELL this takes the biscuit, instead of considering housing the bastards he
should be thinking how to keep them out, like armed guards , with orders to
shoot to kill.
failing that send them straight back out.
Or if Blair thinks the public will go along with allow this lot in he had
better think again, because he will not be able stop people like me taking
the law into my own hands, this far and no further.


Binky Dawkins

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"Steve Glynn" <steve...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>

> since the only reason these Kashmiris want to come here is to take
advantage
> of our legendarily generous benefits system, queue jump for housing and
> hospital places which by rights should go to English little old ladies, in
> return for which these Kashmiris will vote Labour when they aren't busy
> stealing peoples' jobs and mugging them.

But they do vote Labour. After the recent local elections , one of them
was expressing his disgust at the proposal to allow homosexuals to adopt
children. Never being one to miss an opportunity, I asked him why the people
in his area voted solidly Labour, when their view of the world was about as
far from Labour policy as you can get . He told me that since Labour came to
power it has become much easier to get his fellow countrymen into Britain.
Simple as that.

> It's probably something to do with the EU, anyway.

Not one for conspiracy theories myself. However it does seem strange that
we are being told repeatedly now that Europe deperately needs large numbers
of immigrants to pay for our aged relatives. They never tell us who is going
to pay for the aging immigrants though ?


> There. I hope that's lowered the blood pressure of some of our regular
> immigration nuts, and saved them the trouble of expressing, yet again,
> their cogent views of the survival of our nation.

A triumph of hope over experience ? Still, that is what socialism is all
about isn't it ?


Dr. Sunil

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Jun 10, 2002, 12:47:53 PM6/10/02
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On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, peter wrote:

> In article <ae2e8u$vtk$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -

> >for a start, it would widen the gene pool!
>
> Is that a good thing? If so why? Are you one of these sixties flower
> children who want "coffee coloured people by the score"?

And what's wrong with being of 'coffee colour'?

Steve Glynn

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"Joseph Hutcheon" <j.hut...@jisc.ac.uk> wrote in message
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Kilburn, of course.

Honestly, you have to tell these daft Scouse Micks everything.

peter

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In article <Pine.OSF.3.95q.1020610174707.817A-100000@biochem>, Dr. Sunil
<sp...@bc.ic.ac.uk> stated: -
nothing what so ever - but it would be a dull world if the entire planet
were to be so colored. or all white red yellow or plaid for that matter

--
peter

Robert Henderson

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Jun 10, 2002, 1:08:28 PM6/10/02
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In article <ae2e8u$vtk$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> writes

>
>That is a ridiculous exaggeration of my position. I believe that arrivals
>in this country have to be kept under control. However I am not so
>malicious and mean-spirited as to believe that we cannot accomodate *any*.

How immigrants many per annum? RH

Robert Henderson

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Jun 10, 2002, 1:11:02 PM6/10/02
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In article <3d04c1ca...@news.ntlworld.com>, Maria <pl...@plonk.com>
writes

>What relevance does that have to the chaos a million immigrants would
>>have on Britain? RH
>
>What I'm saying is that I don't think it will happen.

But if it does. What is your position then? RH

>1) I think the whole Indian/Pakistan situation is being blown out of proportion.
>The reason? Don't know yet, but possibly dog-wagging or an excuse for cracking
>down
>on civil liberties.
>2) Like I said, I think in general they are happy there and won't want to come
>here.
>
>However, should Bush et al bait the two into continuing the conflict to the
>point of
>full scale war, then maybe they will come.
>Maybe Bush should offer them sanctuary in the US.

--

Robert Henderson

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Jun 10, 2002, 1:10:23 PM6/10/02
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In article <ae2e4s$ufl$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody

<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:bQb8IjAV...@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
>> In article <ae0rka$d8k$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
>> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>> >
>> >I rather hope that one of the mysterious "three ex-forces camps" is near
>> >Sturminster Newton, just to imagine your response!
>> >
>> >--
>>
>> All in the north of England. A great pity one was not in Portland, smack
>> bang against your house. RH
>
>But I would not have reacted in the same way that Peter would.
>
>--

No, in your canting liberal bigot way you would have started talking
about how it was "inappropriate" for them to be housed where there was
no "community" of their fellows to support them. Yuk! RH

>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset

Robert Henderson

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In article <Pine.OSF.3.95q.1020610174707.817A-100000@biochem>, Dr. Sunil
<sp...@bc.ic.ac.uk> writes

Nothing wrong with it in India. RH

Robert Henderson

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In article <2R4N8.1670$Vz5.19...@news-text.cableinet.net>, Binky
Dawkins <bdaw...@thedrones.net> writes

>
> But they do vote Labour. After the recent local elections , one of them
>was expressing his disgust at the proposal to allow homosexuals to adopt
>children. Never being one to miss an opportunity, I asked him why the people
>in his area voted solidly Labour, when their view of the world was about as
>far from Labour policy as you can get . He told me that since Labour came to
>power it has become much easier to get his fellow countrymen into Britain.
>Simple as that.

Quite so. RH

Robert Henderson

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In article <ae2he1$4ar$6...@knossos.btinternet.com>, billy <jones@billy100D
ELETETHISBITfreeserve.co.uk> writes

>
>"Robert Henderson" <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:$8e1TWAE...@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
>> The Sunday Quislingraph (9 June) reports that the Government is
>> preparing three ex-forces camps to take an anticipated influx of tens of
>> thousands fleeing from Kashmir. The upper limit is estimated at 1
>> million by the home Office. RH
>> --
>> Robert Henderson
>******************
>Robert,
>there is no need for any so called refugees.

Spot-on. RH

>Both countries are sufficiently large to evacuate the vulnerable from the
>fighting area.

Irrelevant, Billy. We have no responsibility for these people. Just say
NO must be our slogan. RH

>Both countries should do as wartime Britain did: evacuate children to
>comparatively safe zones and demand that the able bodied give support in the
>battle.
>What would have happened to this country if masses of the population had
>taken to ferries to escape to (shamefully) neutral Ireland (not that the
>Irish would have accepted them) to avoid the bombing?
>Knowing the Irish, they would have pelted the "refugees" with stones before
>they could step ashore.
>However, the British did not seek flight but were prepared to fight - for
>the benefit of all the world (including the Irish) and thereby maintaining a
>now daft country that accepts those who use every conceivable excuse to come
>here.
>regards, billy
>***************
>
>
>
>
>
>

--

Robin Carmody

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peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <ae2e8u$vtk$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
> >
> >I would be quite happy for a small number of Kashmiris to settle on
> >Portland: for a start, it would widen the gene pool!
>
> Is that a good thing? If so why? Are you one of these sixties flower
> children who want "coffee coloured people by the score"?

Oh dear me. The Blue Mink song you are quoting is so naff and cheesy that
Alan Partridge sang it in the lift at the Linton Travel Tavern! If that is
your idea of what sixties radicalism was all about ... dear, dear me.

FWIW, I think it is always a good thing to broaden the gene pool, in any
place, anywhere in the world. Hopefully it will make people less racist and
prejudiced, wherever it happens.

Robin Carmody

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peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <Pine.OSF.3.95q.1020610174707.817A-100000@biochem>, Dr. Sunil
> <sp...@bc.ic.ac.uk> stated: -
> >
> >And what's wrong with being of 'coffee colour'?
> >
> nothing what so ever

Bit different from your previous line, isn't it?

- but it would be a dull world if the entire planet
> were to be so colored. or all white red yellow or plaid for that matter

Translation: "My name is Peter Watson. I have escaped all racial
interbreeding. I want to limit it, if not stop it altogether."

Robin Carmody

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peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <ae2e4s$ufl$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
> >Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:bQb8IjAV...@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
> >> In article <ae0rka$d8k$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
> >> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> writes
> >> >
> >> >I rather hope that one of the mysterious "three ex-forces camps" is
near
> >> >Sturminster Newton, just to imagine your response!
> >> >
> >> >--
> >>
> >> All in the north of England. A great pity one was not in Portland,
smack
> >> bang against your house. RH
> >
> >But I would not have reacted in the same way that Peter would.
> >
> you have no idea how I would have reacted -

You give me a good impression.

as it is an academic
> question I suggest you stick to the script that Millbank gave you.

You miss the point once again. I did not vote Labour in the last election.

Robin Carmody

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Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <Pine.OSF.3.95q.1020610174707.817A-100000@biochem>, Dr. Sunil
> <sp...@bc.ic.ac.uk> writes
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, peter wrote:
> >
> >> In article <ae2e8u$vtk$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
> >> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
> >> >for a start, it would widen the gene pool!
> >>
> >> Is that a good thing? If so why? Are you one of these sixties flower
> >> children who want "coffee coloured people by the score"?
> >
> >And what's wrong with being of 'coffee colour'?
> >
>
> Nothing wrong with it in India. RH

But the group who sang the song Peter has hamfistedly appropriated, Blue
Mink, were very English. They even wrote a song about a Salvation Army
band. There's a lesson in there for you, Robert.

Robin Carmody

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Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> How immigrants many per annum? RH

As many as can be reasonably supported - ie not the mean-spirited aggression
of many on this ng, but not the other extreme of unlimited immigration.

Robin Carmody

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Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <ae2e4s$ufl$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> writes
> >Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:bQb8IjAV...@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
> >> In article <ae0rka$d8k$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
> >> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> writes
> >> >
> >> >I rather hope that one of the mysterious "three ex-forces camps" is
near
> >> >Sturminster Newton, just to imagine your response!
> >> >
> >> >--
> >>
> >> All in the north of England. A great pity one was not in Portland,
smack
> >> bang against your house. RH
> >
> >But I would not have reacted in the same way that Peter would.
> >
> >--
>
> No, in your canting liberal bigot way you would have started talking
> about how it was "inappropriate" for them to be housed where there was
> no "community" of their fellows to support them. Yuk! RH

Actually I would not. It would have opened up Portland considerably.
Besides, this area has always had a large transient population, dating back
to the days when it was a major Navy base. It was never an isolated village
with a population that barely changed from year to year. As such, it would
have been a far better place to house Kashmiris than Sturminster Newton,
because it is used to change and newcomers.

peter

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Jun 10, 2002, 2:14:31 PM6/10/02
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In article <ae2pbo$5kv$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody

<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
>peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:smnFY6nk...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk...
>> In article <ae2e4s$ufl$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
>> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
>> >Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>> >news:bQb8IjAV...@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
>> >> In article <ae0rka$d8k$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
>> >> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>> >> >
>> >> >I rather hope that one of the mysterious "three ex-forces camps" is
>near
>> >> >Sturminster Newton, just to imagine your response!
>> >> >
>> >> >--
>> >>
>> >> All in the north of England. A great pity one was not in Portland,
>smack
>> >> bang against your house. RH
>> >
>> >But I would not have reacted in the same way that Peter would.
>> >
>> you have no idea how I would have reacted -
>
>You give me a good impression.
>

mammeeee mammeeee how I love ya how I love ya my favourite mameee !


will that do?


> as it is an academic
>> question I suggest you stick to the script that Millbank gave you.
>
>You miss the point once again. I did not vote Labour in the last election.
>

Ah Lib Dim - explains it all.

>--
>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>
>

--
peter

peter

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Jun 10, 2002, 2:15:47 PM6/10/02
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In article <ae2p86$5jp$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -

>peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:ekDpYfp0...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk...
>> In article <Pine.OSF.3.95q.1020610174707.817A-100000@biochem>, Dr. Sunil
>> <sp...@bc.ic.ac.uk> stated: -
>> >
>> >And what's wrong with being of 'coffee colour'?
>> >
>> nothing what so ever
>
>Bit different from your previous line, isn't it?
>
> - but it would be a dull world if the entire planet
>> were to be so colored. or all white red yellow or plaid for that matter
>
>Translation: "My name is Peter Watson. I have escaped all racial
>interbreeding.

I didn't know it was coming to get me.

> I want to limit it, if not stop it altogether."
>
>--
>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>
>

Are you still taking the tablets Robin?

Your paranoia is showing.

peter

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In article <ae2q2b$6hh$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody

<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
>Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:rpegWGBC...@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
>> In article <Pine.OSF.3.95q.1020610174707.817A-100000@biochem>, Dr. Sunil
>> <sp...@bc.ic.ac.uk> writes
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, peter wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <ae2e8u$vtk$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
>> >> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
>> >> >for a start, it would widen the gene pool!
>> >>
>> >> Is that a good thing? If so why? Are you one of these sixties flower
>> >> children who want "coffee coloured people by the score"?
>> >
>> >And what's wrong with being of 'coffee colour'?
>> >
>>
>> Nothing wrong with it in India. RH
>
>But the group who sang the song Peter has hamfistedly appropriated,


hamfistedly? hardly? You recognised it at once.

The point was made.

> Blue
>Mink, were very English. They even wrote a song about a Salvation Army
>band. There's a lesson in there for you, Robert.
>
>--

There is?

peter

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Jun 10, 2002, 2:18:43 PM6/10/02
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In article <ae2q4s$63p$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -

>Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:1J9nuKAM...@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
>>
>> How immigrants many per annum? RH
>
>As many as can be reasonably supported -

How many Robin?

>ie not the mean-spirited aggression
>of many on this ng, but not the other extreme of unlimited immigration.
>
>--
>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>
>

--
peter

peter

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In article <ae2p72$r6c$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody

<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
>peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:dF65AFoS...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk...
>> In article <ae2e8u$vtk$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
>> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
>> >
>> >I would be quite happy for a small number of Kashmiris to settle on
>> >Portland: for a start, it would widen the gene pool!
>>
>> Is that a good thing? If so why? Are you one of these sixties flower
>> children who want "coffee coloured people by the score"?
>
>Oh dear me. The Blue Mink song you are quoting is so naff and cheesy that
>Alan Partridge sang it in the lift at the Linton Travel Tavern! If that is
>your idea of what sixties radicalism was all about ... dear, dear me.
>
>FWIW, I think it is always a good thing to broaden the gene pool, in any
>place, anywhere in the world. Hopefully it will make people less racist and
>prejudiced, wherever it happens.
>

the thing about mixed races is that after four generations no one has
any loyalty to anything or any place; just tripe for world government -
and so much easier to control. Is that what you want?


>--
>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>
>

--
peter

Dr. Sunil

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On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Robert Henderson wrote:

> In article <Pine.OSF.3.95q.1020610174707.817A-100000@biochem>, Dr. Sunil
> <sp...@bc.ic.ac.uk> writes
> >
> >
> >On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, peter wrote:
> >
> >> In article <ae2e8u$vtk$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
> >> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
> >> >for a start, it would widen the gene pool!
> >>
> >> Is that a good thing? If so why? Are you one of these sixties flower
> >> children who want "coffee coloured people by the score"?
> >
> >And what's wrong with being of 'coffee colour'?
> >
>
> Nothing wrong with it in India. RH

What's wrong with it in England?

Maria

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On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 18:11:02 +0100, Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote:

>In article <3d04c1ca...@news.ntlworld.com>, Maria <pl...@plonk.com>
>writes
>>What relevance does that have to the chaos a million immigrants would
>>>have on Britain? RH
>>
>>What I'm saying is that I don't think it will happen.
>
>But if it does. What is your position then? RH

That's a hard one...there has been tension in Kashmir for years and years...only
since 9/11 and Bush's global posturing and not very well veiled threats has the situation
become as bad is they are making out.

My position in general is that if a war is a genuine war arising from local trouble between
two nations, then neighbouring countries should accept refugees in the short term.

Should a war be engineered by Western Leaders, then they should see to any refugee crisis
that arises from that war. Unfortunately what this usually means is that Britain accepts refugees
from war torn areas, whereas the US can sit and relax because it is geographically remote.
So my position at present is that I would be willing to accept them should Bliar or Bush trigger
a war there, but I don't feel we should have to accept them.

Robert Henderson

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In article <ae2q93$6lp$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody

Easy to say when you think you will never have to face the reality of
it. RH

>--
>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>
>

--

Robert Henderson

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Jun 10, 2002, 2:20:47 PM6/10/02
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In article <ae2q4s$63p$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> writes

>Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:1J9nuKAM...@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
>>
>> How immigrants many per annum? RH
>
>As many as can be reasonably supported

How many could be reasonably supported? RH

>- ie not the mean-spirited aggression
>of many on this ng, but not the other extreme of unlimited immigration.
>
>--
>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>
>

--

Robin Carmody

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peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <ae2p86$5jp$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
> >
> >Translation: "My name is Peter Watson. I have escaped all racial
> >interbreeding.
>
> I didn't know it was coming to get me.

You have often seemed very proud that you live in a place where it hasn't
really happened yet. You often say that you wouldn't want to live in a
place where it has happened.

> > I want to limit it, if not stop it altogether."
> >
> >--
> >Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
> >
> >
> Are you still taking the tablets Robin?
>
> Your paranoia is showing.

As is Henderson's when he goes on about "elite misbehavaiour". As is yours
when you call Billy Bragg a communist.

Robin Carmody

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peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> > >
> >But the group who sang the song Peter has hamfistedly appropriated,
>
>
> hamfistedly? hardly? You recognised it at once.

Your use of "Melting Pot" was embarrassing in the extreme.

> The point was made.

Except that I don't agree with it.

> > Blue
> >Mink, were very English. They even wrote a song about a Salvation Army
> >band. There's a lesson in there for you, Robert.
> >
> >--
>
> There is?

There is indeed, which is that 60s pop culture was not a universal threat to
traditional Britain. Quite often it actually identified with such a view of
this country. A point that lazy 60s-bashers on the right always miss is
that Bobby Vee fans (efficient suburbanites) did more to destroy the old
Britain than Incredible String Band fans (mystical ruralists) ever did.

peter

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Jun 10, 2002, 4:37:00 PM6/10/02
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In article <ae30s6$l8t$1...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody

<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
>peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:2XKTEBqT...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk...
>> In article <ae2p86$5jp$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
>> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
>> >
>> >Translation: "My name is Peter Watson. I have escaped all racial
>> >interbreeding.
>>
>> I didn't know it was coming to get me.
>
>You have often seemed very proud that you live in a place where it hasn't
>really happened yet.

Seemed. Well there you go.

> You often say that you wouldn't want to live in a
>place where it has happened.
>

I have never said that actually. What I do not like is cities. Anywhere,
white black or rainbow nation as they destroy people's connection with
the land.

>> > I want to limit it, if not stop it altogether."
>> >
>> >--
>> >Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>> >
>> >
>> Are you still taking the tablets Robin?
>>
>> Your paranoia is showing.
>
>As is Henderson's when he goes on about "elite misbehavaiour". As is yours
>when you call Billy Bragg a communist.
>

LOL!

>--
>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>
>

--
peter

peter

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Jun 10, 2002, 4:52:28 PM6/10/02
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In article <ae32nb$c0j$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -

>peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:2HETgaqq...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk...
>> > >
>> >But the group who sang the song Peter has hamfistedly appropriated,
>>
>>
>> hamfistedly? hardly? You recognised it at once.
>
>Your use of "Melting Pot" was embarrassing in the extreme.
>
>> The point was made.
>
>Except that I don't agree with it.

but you understood it

>
>> > Blue
>> >Mink, were very English. They even wrote a song about a Salvation Army
>> >band. There's a lesson in there for you, Robert.
>> >
>> >--
>>
>> There is?
>
>There is indeed, which is that 60s pop culture was not a universal threat to
>traditional Britain. Quite often it actually identified with such a view of
>this country. A point that lazy 60s-bashers on the right always miss is
>that Bobby Vee fans (efficient suburbanites) did more to destroy the old
>Britain than Incredible String Band fans (mystical ruralists) ever did.
>


The music was not as much of a problem as the lyrics.


>--
>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>
>

--
peter

Robin Carmody

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Dr. Sunil <sp...@bc.ic.ac.uk> wrote in message
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Henderson think it is wrong because he is a racist. That, I'm afraid, is
the depressing truth.

Robin Carmody

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peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> the thing about mixed races is that after four generations no one has
> any loyalty to anything or any place; just tripe for world government -
> and so much easier to control. Is that what you want?

I don't want it, but then I don't think it will happen. People are more
tribal than you think they are, even when they are of mixed race.

Robin Carmody

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peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <ae2q4s$63p$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
> >Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:1J9nuKAM...@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
> >>
> >> How immigrants many per annum? RH
> >
> >As many as can be reasonably supported -
>
> How many Robin?

I am not as good with numbers and statistics as I should be. If I was I
could answer that question.

Robin Carmody

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Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <ae2q4s$63p$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> writes
> >Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:1J9nuKAM...@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
> >>
> >> How immigrants many per annum? RH
> >
> >As many as can be reasonably supported
>
> How many could be reasonably supported? RH

See my reply to Peter.

Robin Carmody

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peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> mammeeee mammeeee how I love ya how I love ya my favourite mameee !
>
>
> will that do?

No comment.

>
> > as it is an academic
> >> question I suggest you stick to the script that Millbank gave you.
> >
> >You miss the point once again. I did not vote Labour in the last
election.
> >
>
> Ah Lib Dim - explains it all.

What does it explain?

Robin Carmody

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Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <ae2q93$6lp$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> writes
> >
> >Actually I would not. It would have opened up Portland considerably.
> >Besides, this area has always had a large transient population, dating
back
> >to the days when it was a major Navy base. It was never an isolated
village
> >with a population that barely changed from year to year. As such, it
would
> >have been a far better place to house Kashmiris than Sturminster Newton,
> >because it is used to change and newcomers.
> >
>
> Easy to say when you think you will never have to face the reality of
> it. RH

Again not true. I know I may well have to face the reality of it and I will
regard it as an exciting and positive challenge. Besides, I may not always
live here. I may move to an area with much more obvious post-war
immigration.

peter

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In article <ae34qr$dge$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -

why don't you do that - why don't you move to Bristol where we have just
seen a great deal of news footage on the problem of Jamaican drug
dealers -
let me ask you something because I think in fact you are just a wind up
merchant.
What part of which imported post 1950's culture do you object to?

None?

If so say so -

If you object to any then what aspects do you object to?

>
>--
>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>
>

--
peter

peter

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In article <ae341p$d90$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -

>peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:ynCSIPqw...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk...
>>
>> the thing about mixed races is that after four generations no one has
>> any loyalty to anything or any place; just tripe for world government -
>> and so much easier to control. Is that what you want?
>
>I don't want it, but then I don't think it will happen.


Well there are two points we agree upon.

> People are more
>tribal than you think they are, even when they are of mixed race.

Yes, so reality kicks in and yet again I think you are a wind up
merchant because you know a rainbow monoculture is an impossibility.

>
>--
>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>
>

--
peter

peter

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In article <ae348b$d4i$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody

<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
>peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:6XOQEkqD...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk...
>> In article <ae2q4s$63p$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
>> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
>> >Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>> >news:1J9nuKAM...@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
>> >>
>> >> How immigrants many per annum? RH
>> >
>> >As many as can be reasonably supported -
>>
>> How many Robin?
>
>I am not as good with numbers and statistics as I should be. If I was I
>could answer that question.
>

Then if we say none, you must provide evidence that any are supportable.

And I don't mean the "case of emergency" type of support.
Peter

>--
>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>
>

--
peter

alanG

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On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 18:55:44 +0100, "Robin Carmody"
<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:

>peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message

>news:ekDpYfp0...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk...


>> In article <Pine.OSF.3.95q.1020610174707.817A-100000@biochem>, Dr. Sunil

>> <sp...@bc.ic.ac.uk> stated: -


>> >
>> >And what's wrong with being of 'coffee colour'?
>> >

>> nothing what so ever
>
>Bit different from your previous line, isn't it?
>
> - but it would be a dull world if the entire planet
>> were to be so colored. or all white red yellow or plaid for that matter
>

>Translation: "My name is Peter Watson. I have escaped all racial

>interbreeding. I want to limit it, if not stop it altogether."

But he hasn't escape all racial interbreeding. If he had he would
still be living in a tree.

He could be living in a tree.


--
Alan G

The rule of law 'excludes the idea of any exemption
of officials or others from the duty of obedience to
the law which governs other citizens or from the
jurisdiction of the ordinary tribunals'
(Dicey)

Robin Carmody

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peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> I have never said that actually. What I do not like is cities. Anywhere,
> white black or rainbow nation as they destroy people's connection with
> the land.

You miss the point yet again. Globalist free market economics do that.

alanG

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On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 21:37:00 +0100, peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk>
wrote:

>
>I have never said that actually. What I do not like is cities. Anywhere,
>white black or rainbow nation as they destroy people's connection with
>the land.
>

Well why don't you fuck off and live in your 6th century wattle and
daub and leave the rest of us to get on with civilisation?

Take the rest of the 'britons' with you.

Robin Carmody

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alanG <hgh...@Flashmail.com> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 18:55:44 +0100, "Robin Carmody"
> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
> >Translation: "My name is Peter Watson. I have escaped all racial
> >interbreeding. I want to limit it, if not stop it altogether."
>
> But he hasn't escape all racial interbreeding. If he had he would
> still be living in a tree.
>
> He could be living in a tree.

The (Dorset) Stour Valley enables him to think he is :).

Robin Carmody

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peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:35dz$QtMGR...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk...

> In article <ae32nb$c0j$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
> >peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
> >news:2HETgaqq...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk...
> >> > >
> >> >But the group who sang the song Peter has hamfistedly appropriated,
> >>
> >>
> >> hamfistedly? hardly? You recognised it at once.
> >
> >Your use of "Melting Pot" was embarrassing in the extreme.
> >
> >> The point was made.
> >
> >Except that I don't agree with it.
>
> but you understood it

So? I still totally disagree with it.

> >There is indeed, which is that 60s pop culture was not a universal threat
to
> >traditional Britain. Quite often it actually identified with such a view
of
> >this country. A point that lazy 60s-bashers on the right always miss is
> >that Bobby Vee fans (efficient suburbanites) did more to destroy the old
> >Britain than Incredible String Band fans (mystical ruralists) ever did.
> >
>
>
> The music was not as much of a problem as the lyrics.

Would you count the Incredible String Band's mystical landscape-worship as
"a problem" to traditional Britain? I know I wouldn't. "Take Good Care Of
My Baby" was the problem, because it encouraged Americanised consumerism.
Much of hippie culture was a conscious return to the land as against the
increasingly Americanised and suburbanised nation that the "never had it so
good generation" had already created.

Maria

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On 10 Jun 2002 19:13:48 GMT, Joe User <Ak...@NOSPAMboxfrog.com> wrote:

>On Sun, 09 Jun 2002 10:20:04 -0700, Robert Henderson wrote:
>
>> The Sunday Quislingraph (9 June) reports that the Government is
>> preparing three ex-forces camps to take an anticipated influx of tens of
>> thousands fleeing from Kashmir. The upper limit is estimated at 1
>> million by the home Office. RH
>
>Not that Americans do a better job, but can't you Brits keep your
>govement from giving your nation away to the thrid world?

Easy to say when you are so geographically isolated from the hotspots.
What would you do in the US if you were only a long swim away from a
massive continent full of forriners?
>
>War would do that part of the world a whole lot of good, way too many
>people, most have to die off to bring the region back into balance with
>it's enviorment.
>
>Unlike deer, we don't have wolves or lack of local food supplies to keep
>our numbers in check, we need wars, plague, etc, to keep our numbers in
>check.

How do you say the environment in the Indian subcontinent is out of balance?

Robin Carmody

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peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> What part of which imported post 1950's culture do you object to?

Drug dealing, violent crime, muggings, heavy drug taking. Also railway
privatisation.

> None?

No. See above.

> If you object to any then what aspects do you object to?

I dislike many things but I do not think they can be solved by expelling
vast numbers of people from this country. There are many violent and
thuggish white British people (and always were, if truth be told).

Robin Carmody

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peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Yes, so reality kicks in and yet again I think you are a wind up
> merchant because you know a rainbow monoculture is an impossibility.

There will never be a monoculture. There will be many different hybridised
cultures.

Robert Henderson

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Jun 10, 2002, 2:52:27 PM6/10/02
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In article <Pine.OSF.3.95q.1020610192509.493B-100000@biochem>, Dr. Sunil

<sp...@bc.ic.ac.uk> writes
>
>
>On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, Robert Henderson wrote:
>
>> In article <Pine.OSF.3.95q.1020610174707.817A-100000@biochem>, Dr. Sunil
>> <sp...@bc.ic.ac.uk> writes
>> >
>> >
>> >On Mon, 10 Jun 2002, peter wrote:
>> >
>> >> In article <ae2e8u$vtk$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
>> >> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
>> >> >for a start, it would widen the gene pool!
>> >>
>> >> Is that a good thing? If so why? Are you one of these sixties flower
>> >> children who want "coffee coloured people by the score"?
>> >
>> >And what's wrong with being of 'coffee colour'?
>> >
>>
>> Nothing wrong with it in India. RH
>
>What's wrong with it in England?
>
Nothing per se, but as Powell said, "It's a question of numbers". RH

Robert Henderson

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In article <3d04eafc...@news.ntlworld.com>, Maria <pl...@plonk.com>
writes

How many? Willing to take a family into your house and support them? RH

> but I don't feel we should have to accept them.
>

--

Robert Henderson

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In article <pan.2002.06.10.19...@NOSPAMboxfrog.com>, Joe
User <Ak...@NOSPAMboxfrog.com> writes

>On Sun, 09 Jun 2002 10:20:04 -0700, Robert Henderson wrote:
>
>> The Sunday Quislingraph (9 June) reports that the Government is
>> preparing three ex-forces camps to take an anticipated influx of tens of
>> thousands fleeing from Kashmir. The upper limit is estimated at 1
>> million by the home Office. RH
>
>Not that Americans do a better job, but can't you Brits keep your
>govement from giving your nation away to the thrid world?
>

How when the entire political establishment sings the same tune and the
political system is so slanted against new parties that none can gain a
foothold in Parliament let alone forma government? RH

>War would do that part of the world a whole lot of good, way too many
>people, most have to die off to bring the region back into balance with
>it's enviorment.
>
>Unlike deer, we don't have wolves or lack of local food supplies to keep
>our numbers in check, we need wars, plague, etc, to keep our numbers in
>check.

--

Robert Henderson

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In article <ae34dl$31e$1...@newsg1.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody

<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:26BXiJA$3OB9...@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
>> In article <ae2q4s$63p$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
>> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>> >Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>> >news:1J9nuKAM...@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
>> >>
>> >> How immigrants many per annum? RH
>> >
>> >As many as can be reasonably supported
>>
>> How many could be reasonably supported? RH
>
>See my reply to Peter.
>
>--

That is no reply but the usual liberal bigot evasion. How many? RH

Robert Henderson

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Jun 11, 2002, 1:03:45 AM6/11/02
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In article <ae34qr$dge$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody

<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:+aFVqUAt...@anywhere.demon.co.uk...
>> In article <ae2q93$6lp$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
>> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>> >
>> >Actually I would not. It would have opened up Portland considerably.
>> >Besides, this area has always had a large transient population, dating
>back
>> >to the days when it was a major Navy base. It was never an isolated
>village
>> >with a population that barely changed from year to year. As such, it
>would
>> >have been a far better place to house Kashmiris than Sturminster Newton,
>> >because it is used to change and newcomers.
>> >
>>
>> Easy to say when you think you will never have to face the reality of
>> it. RH
>
>Again not true. I know I may well have to face the reality of it and I will
>regard it as an exciting and positive challenge. Besides, I may not always
>live here. I may move to an area with much more obvious post-war
>immigration.
>

Strange that you have not already done so. RH

>--
>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>
>

--

peter

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In article <rl9agu4h0fu1ai1jl...@4ax.com>, alanG
<hgh...@Flashmail.com> stated: -

>On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 21:37:00 +0100, peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk>
>wrote:
>
>
>
>>
>>I have never said that actually. What I do not like is cities. Anywhere,
>>white black or rainbow nation as they destroy people's connection with
>>the land.
>>
>
>Well why don't you fuck off and live in your 6th century wattle and
>daub and leave the rest of us to get on with civilisation?
>
>Take the rest of the 'britons' with you.


If you love multikulturalism and tolerance so much why do you hate the
English traditional culture? And it is 17th century not 6th.


peter

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In article <ae3fhl$uqt$1...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -

>peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:6pEwrOup...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk...
>>
>> What part of which imported post 1950's culture do you object to?
>
>Drug dealing, violent crime, muggings, heavy drug taking. Also railway
>privatisation.
>
>> None?
>
>No. See above.
>
>> If you object to any then what aspects do you object to?
>
>I dislike many things but I do not think they can be solved by expelling
>vast numbers of people from this country.

Well I agree. Not "vast numbers" - a few hundred Jamaicans would do and
the government should impose visa restrictions on all Jamaicans
regardless of port of departure to the UK - that would solve 75 per cent
of the problem.
Hey Robin I lived in the Caribbean so I know there are a lot of good
people there too but the Yardies want mopping up NOW!

>There are many violent and
>thuggish white British people (and always were, if truth be told).
>

so what's your point?

>--
>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>
>

--
peter

peter

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In article <ae3djf$tm7$1...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -

>peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:Y4lo$qss3Q...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk...
>>
>> I have never said that actually. What I do not like is cities. Anywhere,
>> white black or rainbow nation as they destroy people's connection with
>> the land.
>
>You miss the point yet again. Globalist free market economics do that.
>

Globalism encompasses free movement of peoples - the Windies were
brought here to do crap jobs the British refused to so - now we are
importing cheap labour from Russia and the 'Stans - - but the cost this
time will be a lot higher.

>--
>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>
>

--
peter

peter

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In article <ae3eku$uc1$1...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
whereas Robin is banged up in HMP Portland?
>

--
peter

peter

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In article <pp3aguoodkpvtg9vk...@4ax.com>, alanG
<hgh...@Flashmail.com> stated: -

>On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 18:55:44 +0100, "Robin Carmody"
><ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:ekDpYfp0...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk...
>>> In article <Pine.OSF.3.95q.1020610174707.817A-100000@biochem>, Dr. Sunil
>>> <sp...@bc.ic.ac.uk> stated: -
>>> >
>>> >And what's wrong with being of 'coffee colour'?
>>> >
>>> nothing what so ever
>>
>>Bit different from your previous line, isn't it?
>>
>> - but it would be a dull world if the entire planet
>>> were to be so colored. or all white red yellow or plaid for that matter
>>
>>Translation: "My name is Peter Watson. I have escaped all racial
>>interbreeding. I want to limit it, if not stop it altogether."
>
>But he hasn't escape all racial interbreeding. If he had he would
>still be living in a tree.
>
>He could be living in a tree.
>
>

your childish arguments against my thoughts include telling me to go and
live in a wattle and daub hut and that I live in a tree

I think that proves you have no argument to justify your position.
--
peter

peter

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In article <ae3enf$jqq$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody


That is why I live in the countryside which you and your fellow
multikultis disparage. I lived the dream.

>--
>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>
>

--
peter

Robert Henderson

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Jun 11, 2002, 3:48:42 AM6/11/02
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In article <UFr7QdzX...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk>, peter
<Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> writes

>In article <ae3djf$tm7$1...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
><ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
>>peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:Y4lo$qss3Q...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk...
>>>
>>> I have never said that actually. What I do not like is cities. Anywhere,
>>> white black or rainbow nation as they destroy people's connection with
>>> the land.
>>
>>You miss the point yet again. Globalist free market economics do that.
>>
>
>Globalism encompasses free movement of peoples - the Windies were
>brought here to do crap jobs the British refused to

This is a common misapprehension, Peter. Direct recruitment of West
Indians in the fifties was very small - London Transport recruited a
total of 5000 for example. The vast majority of Windies simply came
here on spec. They took jobs which the native population would have done
had the domestic market in labour been allowed to reach its natural
level, ie raise the wages of these jobs. RH

> so - now we are
>importing cheap labour from Russia and the 'Stans - - but the cost this
>time will be a lot higher.
>
>>--
>>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>>
>>
>

--

peter

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Jun 11, 2002, 5:40:18 AM6/11/02
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In article <s+oRzLAa...@anywhere.demon.co.uk>, Robert Henderson
<Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> stated: -

>In article <UFr7QdzX...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk>, peter
><Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> writes
>>In article <ae3djf$tm7$1...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
>><ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
>>>peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>news:Y4lo$qss3Q...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk...
>>>>
>>>> I have never said that actually. What I do not like is cities. Anywhere,
>>>> white black or rainbow nation as they destroy people's connection with
>>>> the land.
>>>
>>>You miss the point yet again. Globalist free market economics do that.
>>>
>>
>>Globalism encompasses free movement of peoples - the Windies were
>>brought here to do crap jobs the British refused to
>
>This is a common misapprehension, Peter. Direct recruitment of West
>Indians in the fifties was very small - London Transport recruited a
>total of 5000 for example. The vast majority of Windies simply came
>here on spec. They took jobs which the native population would have done
>had the domestic market in labour been allowed to reach its natural
>level, ie raise the wages of these jobs. RH


ok let me rephrase it then

the Windies CAME here to do badly paid jobs the British refused to do.


>
>> so - now we are
>>importing cheap labour from Russia and the 'Stans - - but the cost this
>>time will be a lot higher.
>>
>>>--
>>>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>>>
>>>
>>
>

--
peter

Robert Henderson

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In article <SRO6FE6C...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk>, peter

<Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> writes
>In article <s+oRzLAa...@anywhere.demon.co.uk>, Robert Henderson
><Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> stated: -
>>In article <UFr7QdzX...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk>, peter
>><Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> writes
>>>In article <ae3djf$tm7$1...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
>>><ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
>>>>peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>>news:Y4lo$qss3Q...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk...
>>>>>
>>>>> I have never said that actually. What I do not like is cities. Anywhere,
>>>>> white black or rainbow nation as they destroy people's connection with
>>>>> the land.
>>>>
>>>>You miss the point yet again. Globalist free market economics do that.
>>>>
>>>
>>>Globalism encompasses free movement of peoples - the Windies were
>>>brought here to do crap jobs the British refused to
>>
>>This is a common misapprehension, Peter. Direct recruitment of West
>>Indians in the fifties was very small - London Transport recruited a
>>total of 5000 for example. The vast majority of Windies simply came
>>here on spec. They took jobs which the native population would have done
>>had the domestic market in labour been allowed to reach its natural
>>level, ie raise the wages of these jobs. RH
>
>
>ok let me rephrase it then
>
>the Windies CAME here to do badly paid jobs the British refused to do.
>
>

Had they not come the wages for those jobs would have risen and the work
would have been done by Britons and/or greater mechanisation. It is also
true to say that many of our industries at the time were grossly
overmanned. The importation of cheap labour was a form of theft from
the poorer members of our society. RH


>>
>>> so - now we are
>>>importing cheap labour from Russia and the 'Stans - - but the cost this
>>>time will be a lot higher.
>>>
>>>>--
>>>>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

--

Maria

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Jun 11, 2002, 7:54:17 AM6/11/02
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If my house was big enough and the govenrment gave me the money (since it is them
that wants them to come) I wouldn't mind.

I expect many wouldn't though; many didn't even want the British child evacuees in WWII.

peter

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Jun 11, 2002, 8:45:35 AM6/11/02
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In article <3d05e4e7...@news.ntlworld.com>, Maria
<pl...@plonk.com> stated: -

whose money?

> (since it is
>them
>that wants them to come) I wouldn't mind.
>
>I expect many wouldn't though; many didn't even want the British child evacuees
>in WWII.
>

--
peter

Robin Carmody

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Why is it that people like you always assume that anyone on the left hates
anything at all that has been here for centuries? I could give you a whole
list of "traditionally English" things I appreciate and love.

Robin Carmody

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Jun 11, 2002, 8:46:12 AM6/11/02
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peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Globalism encompasses free movement of peoples - the Windies were
> brought here to do crap jobs the British refused to so - now we are
> importing cheap labour from Russia and the 'Stans - - but the cost this
> time will be a lot higher.

Why will the cost be a lot higher?

Robin Carmody

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>
> whereas Robin is banged up in HMP Portland?

No. I live in a semi-detached house, for your information.

Robin Carmody

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Jun 11, 2002, 8:48:09 AM6/11/02
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peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> your childish arguments against my thoughts include telling me to go and
> live in a wattle and daub hut and that I live in a tree
>
> I think that proves you have no argument to justify your position.

Alan is joking, and using metaphors, to make a point.

Robin Carmody

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Jun 11, 2002, 8:53:33 AM6/11/02
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peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <ae3enf$jqq$1...@newsg4.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
> >Would you count the Incredible String Band's mystical landscape-worship
as
> >"a problem" to traditional Britain? I know I wouldn't. "Take Good Care
Of
> >My Baby" was the problem, because it encouraged Americanised consumerism.
> >Much of hippie culture was a conscious return to the land as against the
> >increasingly Americanised and suburbanised nation that the "never had it
so
> >good generation" had already created.
> >
>
>
> That is why I live in the countryside which you and your fellow
> multikultis disparage.

You really are hopeless, aren't you? I love the countryside, though I
prefer living in a part of it without a Tory MP (which is luckily possible
now, unlike the situation of the 80s and early 90s).

You know much less about me than you think, Peter, so stop jumping to
conclusions about everything.

> I lived the dream.

Oh no you didn't. Not really. The hippie dream of the countryside was to
take it away from the hands of the aristocracy, landowners, foxhunters etc
and return it to the people. Your attitude to the countryside is
intolerant, posessive and "keep everyone else out" in the vein of a 1950s
landowner, not the gloriously inclusive and celebratory attitude of the
Incredible String Band and their contemporaries.

Robin Carmody

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Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> Nothing per se, but as Powell said, "It's a question of numbers". RH

Yes! An approving Enoch Powell reference!

I've been waiting for that to come from you since I joined this newsgroup
...

Robin Carmody

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peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <ae3fhl$uqt$1...@newsg3.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
>
> >There are many violent and
> >thuggish white British people (and always were, if truth be told).
> >
>
> so what's your point?

That the Daily Mail view of recent British history (taken so seriously by so
many on this ng) is complete bollocks.

Robin Carmody

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Jun 11, 2002, 8:59:39 AM6/11/02
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Robert Henderson <Phi...@anywhere.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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> In article <ae34qr$dge$1...@newsg2.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
> <ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> writes
> >Again not true. I know I may well have to face the reality of it and I
will
> >regard it as an exciting and positive challenge. Besides, I may not
always
> >live here. I may move to an area with much more obvious post-war
> >immigration.
> >
>
> Strange that you have not already done so. RH

I have a great affection for Portland. Besides there are personal reasons
beyond my control which prevent me from moving at the moment.

peter

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Jun 11, 2002, 9:02:09 AM6/11/02
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In article <ae4rfl$q5n$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -
Let's say because the eastern europeans are more "dynamic".

>--
>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>
>

--
peter

peter

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Jun 11, 2002, 9:01:26 AM6/11/02
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In article <ae4rep$q52$1...@news6.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -

>peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:U1t78QzM...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk...
>> In article <rl9agu4h0fu1ai1jl...@4ax.com>, alanG
>> <hgh...@Flashmail.com> stated: -
>> >On Mon, 10 Jun 2002 21:37:00 +0100, peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >>
>> >>I have never said that actually. What I do not like is cities. Anywhere,
>> >>white black or rainbow nation as they destroy people's connection with
>> >>the land.
>> >>
>> >
>> >Well why don't you fuck off and live in your 6th century wattle and
>> >daub and leave the rest of us to get on with civilisation?
>> >
>> >Take the rest of the 'britons' with you.
>>
>>
>> If you love multikulturalism and tolerance so much why do you hate the
>> English traditional culture?
>
>Why is it that people like you always assume that anyone on the left hates
>anything at all that has been here for centuries?

Oh, you're on the left are you? Well maybe because the left have
typically denigrated many traditional things. But then left / right are
rather passe now. Better globalism / internationalism vs capitalism /
nationalism.


> I could give you a whole
>list of "traditionally English" things I appreciate and love.

No, that' fine. I am not asking for a list.

peter

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Jun 11, 2002, 9:03:16 AM6/11/02
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In article <ae4rja$7fg$1...@news5.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -

Oh good, I am so relieved.

peter

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Jun 11, 2002, 9:02:45 AM6/11/02
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In article <ae4rig$hda$1...@news7.svr.pol.co.uk>, Robin Carmody
<ro...@elidor.freeserve.co.uk> stated: -

>peter <Pe...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
>news:fFT5Q3z3...@pwwatson.demon.co.uk...
>>
>> whereas Robin is banged up in HMP Portland?
>
>No. I live in a semi-detached house, for your information.
>

Well fine. I mean I didn't think you really *were* in HMP Portland -

>--


>Robin Carmody, Portland, Dorset
>
>

--
peter

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