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m II

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May 6, 2004, 7:58:59 PM5/6/04
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Tracy Fort

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May 6, 2004, 8:04:14 PM5/6/04
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On Thu, 06 May 2004 23:58:59 GMT, m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca>
wrote:

>http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_raped.htm
>
>
>
>mike


Good...did it excite you Mike?

Tracy

Maria

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May 6, 2004, 8:08:00 PM5/6/04
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On Thu, 06 May 2004 20:04:14 -0400, Tracy Fort <no...@none.com> wrote:

>On Thu, 06 May 2004 23:58:59 GMT, m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca>
>wrote:
>
>>http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_raped.htm
>>
>>
>>
>>mike
>
>
>Good..

Ah well.

Rick

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May 6, 2004, 8:24:22 PM5/6/04
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"Maria" <frust...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:409ad35a...@News.Individual.NET...

War is hell, guys.

You gotta ask yourselves, though, even if these photos and
film clips are genuine, what motivation would these soldiers
have to allow their actions to be recorded on film? It's either
a case of really, really stupid soldiers (not likely) or a few
who're looking to take down their C.O.'s.

Rick


m II

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May 6, 2004, 8:28:44 PM5/6/04
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Rick wrote:

> War is hell, guys.
>
> You gotta ask yourselves, though, even if these photos and
> film clips are genuine, what motivation would these soldiers
> have to allow their actions to be recorded on film? It's either
> a case of really, really stupid soldiers (not likely) or a few
> who're looking to take down their C.O.'s.

There were supposedly thousands more confiscated as the troops were
rotated out. They were circulating CDs they'd burned. Rape pictures were
being circulated like trading cards.


http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=80&contentid=1221


mike

Maria

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May 6, 2004, 8:31:18 PM5/6/04
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On Thu, 6 May 2004 17:24:22 -0700, "Rick" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

>"Maria" <frust...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:409ad35a...@News.Individual.NET...
>> On Thu, 06 May 2004 20:04:14 -0400, Tracy Fort <no...@none.com> wrote:
>>
>> >On Thu, 06 May 2004 23:58:59 GMT, m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca>
>> >wrote:
>> >
>> >>http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_raped.htm
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>mike
>> >
>> >
>> >Good..
>>
>> Ah well.
>
>War is hell, guys.

Apparently so.

>
>You gotta ask yourselves, though, even if these photos and
>film clips are genuine, what motivation would these soldiers
>have to allow their actions to be recorded on film? It's either
>a case of really, really stupid soldiers (not likely) or a few
>who're looking to take down their C.O.'s.

They can sell them for bucks to porn-deprived people?

Rick

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May 6, 2004, 8:40:44 PM5/6/04
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"m II" <ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote in message news:0LAmc.5210$uN4.3630@clgrps12...

Yeah, coming from "Conspiracy Planet", that's some hardcore
journalism alright. Did you read the story? They obviously
have an attitude problem.

As for the gal in the first link, speaking as a gay guy all I can
say is, well, some girls have all the luck. The one taking her
to Browntown, well, I'd do him in a second.

Names dammit, I want names.

Rick


Ian Stirling

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May 6, 2004, 8:44:26 PM5/6/04
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In rec.photo.digital m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote:
> Rick wrote:
>
>> War is hell, guys.
>>
>> You gotta ask yourselves, though, even if these photos and
>> film clips are genuine, what motivation would these soldiers
>> have to allow their actions to be recorded on film? It's either
>> a case of really, really stupid soldiers (not likely) or a few
>> who're looking to take down their C.O.'s.
>
> There were supposedly thousands more confiscated as the troops were
> rotated out. They were circulating CDs they'd burned. Rape pictures were
> being circulated like trading cards.

How much communication security is imposed?
If I'm going to far-off-places to kill for my country can I take my digital
camera and laptop?
Sat-phone?

Elmer Thudd

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May 6, 2004, 9:16:01 PM5/6/04
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Those are completely fake!
(and your FIRST clue was that aztlan.net said they were real...)
(plus, the pic quality is obviously semi pro, and not "in the field"
reality.)


Bogus GI rape photos used as Arab propaganda
Pictures purporting to be U.S. troops actually taken from porn sites

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38335

Graphic photos appearing on Arabic websites of U.S. servicemen raping
and sexually abusing Iraqi women were actually taken from American and
Hungarian pornography sites.

Albasrah.net and a Tunisian website produced in France by Committee for
the Defense of Saddam Hussein [Comité de Défonce de Saddam Hussein En
Tunisie], posted not only the recently broadcast photos of U.S. troops
abusing and humiliating Iraqi prisoners but additional ones of alleged
group rape of women by American soldiers, some who are depicted holding
rifles against their victims' heads.

The Tunisian site described the photos as the "unedited" versions of
actual events and Albasrah ran the photos under the heading "The Abu
Ghraib Prison Photos," indicating they had received the photos via e-mail.

A WND investigation has revealed that most of the photos are taken from
the American pornographic website "Iraq Babes," and the Hungarian site,
"Sex in War," which is linked to by the American site. Both websites are
linked to by violent pornography sites and both describe Iraqi women --
played by "actresses" -- in vulgar terms.

"Iraq Babes" was created in April 2003 and is registered to Linda MacNew
of MacNew Enterprises, in Hop Bottom, Pa.

MacNew Enterprises also is the registrant of VelocityHosting.com, whose
technical and administrative contacts are Linda and Arthur MacNew.
HotSpotCity.com, which hosts "cheap unrestricted adult XXX porn
websites" is a subsidiary of MacNew Enterprises.
[...]


Porn site depicting 'GI rapes' shut down
http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38352

Posted: May 5, 2004
5:00 p.m. Eastern

By Sherrie Gossett
© 2004 WorldNetDaily.com

A pornographic website that said it featured "actors" portraying U.S.
GIs gang-raping Iraqi women has been shut down by its operator after WND
reported two Arabic websites were presenting the photos as proof of
American crimes.

The American website, "Iraq Babes," was shut down by its registrant,
Linda MacNew.

MacNew released this statement to WND:

I want to start by saying how appalled I am at this whole thing.
The site iraqbabes.com is one of our client's sites that we had
purchased for him as part of a hosting package that he ordered. Even
though we knew it would be an adult site, all content was legal content
obtained from a sponsor Extreme Traffic and listed in their 2257
statement that all scenes in the movies and images were performed
(played) by actors. All actors/models were over 18 at the time of
photography. And were paid for their performances.

MacNew added, "In light of the anti-American use that other websites
have found for this content, we have decided to sever all business ties
with this client and have removed their site from our server. We want to
thank WND for contacting us and making us aware of what was going on."

MacNew told WND she was not able yesterday to verify conclusively that
the photos, which she said were produced by the Hungarian "Sex in War"
site, were legal or illegal – meaning whether the women involved were
without question porn actresses or were actually raped on camera.

Earlier in the day, MacNew questioned WND about how the photos were
discovered, saying she thought it would be impossible to find them
because they were so deeply buried in the Internet. She expressed shock
that the photos came to public light at all.

When asked why she allowed her name to be associated the site, MacNew
replied, "I had no idea something like this would happen."

"I'm very upset about it," she said. "I have a very good name and a very
nice business."

MacNew Enterprises, along with the names Linda and/or Arthur MacNew, is
listed as registrant on various pornographic websites ranging from "soft
porn" to one which is much more explicit.

MacNew said she was not following news on the war and was unaware of the
controversy over U.S. abuse of Iraqi prisoners in Abu Ghraib prison.

"I was all against the war to begin with," she said. Regarding rape,
MacNew added, "That stuff happens over there all the time anyway."

Veteran police detective and novelist Michael Tremoglie, commenting on
the four websites involved and statements made by some of the persons
connected to them, said, "If there weres any question in their mind
about whether real rape was going on in these photos, why didn't they
contact the responsible authorities, instead of trying to cash in on it?"

Java

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May 6, 2004, 9:12:02 PM5/6/04
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They are fakes and if not GOOD. Humiliate those fucken bastards yet better
kill them .They are all futur suicide bombers anyway. USA GO GO GO

"m II" <ohmwork...@spots.ca> a écrit dans le message de
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> http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_raped.htm
>
>
>
> mike


Henry

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May 7, 2004, 12:49:24 AM5/7/04
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is that the latest faction the futurs.........not another lot.

H

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m II

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May 7, 2004, 1:34:39 AM5/7/04
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m II wrote:

> http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_rapeXXXX

It's been pointed out to me that these pictures were not taken in Iraq,
but were in fact manufactured for the use of scum pornography mechants
who make money from the misery of others.

If I had known they were fake I would not have posted the URL. It must
be said that it's a sad state of affairs when something as disgusting as
this can actually be thought of as being true. We'll have to see what
other news more pictures by the liberators will bring.

mike

Ian Bailey

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May 7, 2004, 1:56:42 AM5/7/04
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"Java" <cjbo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<xnBmc.43704$3Q4.1...@news20.bellglobal.com>...
> They are fakes and if not GOOD. Humiliate those fucken bastards yet better
> kill them .They are all futur suicide bombers anyway. USA GO GO GO

So you think it good that your country emulates Saddam Hussein? I
thought that torture of innocent people was *bad*.


Ian

Ken Oaf

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May 7, 2004, 3:00:51 AM5/7/04
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On Thu, 06 May 2004 23:58:59 GMT, m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote:

> http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_raped.htm

If they are real, then the US will fully deserve the next terrorist attack on
their shores.


m II

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May 7, 2004, 3:11:23 AM5/7/04
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Ken Oaf wrote:
> On Thu, 06 May 2004 23:58:59 GMT, m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote:
>
>
>>http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_rapeXXXX

>
>
> If they are real, then the US will fully deserve the next terrorist attack on
> their shores.

It's been shown that they are not real. Even if they WERE real, the
States wouldn't deserve an attack. What they deserve is a regime change
in Washington. It's time to sweep the garbage out. God willing, that
will come in November.

Unless of course the electronic voting has been rigged.

mike

Stephen Glynn

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May 7, 2004, 3:49:23 AM5/7/04
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m II wrote:
> http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_raped.htm
>
>
>
> mike

I note that, according to the site,

"Please Note: Many of the photographs showing the rape of Iraqi women
and the sodomization of Iraqi POW's at the Abu Ghraib prison are now at
USA pornographic websites pointing to the possibility of collusion
between the depraved US soldiers in the pictures and US based Jewish
pornographers. Many of these photographs were also freely disseminated
to US occupation forces, perhaps to inflame their nefarious desires and
to motivate them to strike out against the Iraqi populace in these
perverse ways".

Another possibility, of course, is that enterprising purveyors, whether
Jewish or not, of internet porn have capitalised on the publicity about
assaults on Iraqi prisoners and produced their own images, which
"aztlan.net" has now reproduced.

It's only a matter of time, I suppose, before we start receiving spam
about barely legal Iraqi babes having sex with camels.

Steve

Ken Oaf

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May 7, 2004, 4:52:10 AM5/7/04
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On Fri, 07 May 2004 07:11:23 GMT, m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote:

> > If they are real, then the US will fully deserve the next terrorist attack on
> > their shores.
>
> It's been shown that they are not real. Even if they WERE real, the
> States wouldn't deserve an attack. What they deserve is a regime change
> in Washington. It's time to sweep the garbage out. God willing, that
> will come in November.
>
> Unless of course the electronic voting has been rigged.

There is just too much corruption in the US Government. They make the Nazis
look like pussy cats.


jonah

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May 7, 2004, 4:59:24 AM5/7/04
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"Java" <cjbo...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:<xnBmc.43704$3Q4.1...@news20.bellglobal.com>...
> They are fakes and if not GOOD. Humiliate those fucken bastards yet better
> kill them .They are all futur suicide bombers anyway. USA GO GO GO

Nuclear devices in suitcases will restore islams honour. American cities
the targets. Reap the wirlwind perverts.

jonah

RHF

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May 7, 2004, 5:02:32 AM5/7/04
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MII,

Nice try at Liberal Lies and Leftest Distortion of the Truth.

These Photos actually featured "Actors and Actresses" portraying
U.S. GIs Gang-Raping Iraqi Women (Actresses)and are NOT Real [.]

But the News is Already Out that these are 'in-fact' BOGUS Pictures
of "GI Rape Photos used as Arab Propaganda Pictures purporting
to be U.S. troops actually taken from porn sites."

http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38335

* Graphic Photos appearing on Arabic websites of U.S. servicemen

raping and sexually abusing Iraqi women were actually taken from

American and Hungarian pornography sites are NOT Real.

NOTE: Investigation has revealed that most of the Photos are

taken from the American pornographic website "Iraq Babes,"

and the Hungarian site, "Sex in War," were 'staged' with Actors
and Actresses.

The Photos were being promoted by the a France based Website
{Comité de Défonce de Saddam Hussein En Tunisie}
"The Committee for the Defense of Saddam Hussein"
http://216.239.51.104/search?q=cache:qqMDjaJuVh4J:ctdsaddam.i8.com/+&hl=en
WHAT MORE DO YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT THESE PICTURES BEING BOGUS [.]

FWIW: A Pornographic website that said it featured "Actors and
Actresses" portraying U.S. GIs Gang-Raping Iraqi Women (Actresses)
has been shut down by its operator.

TBL: The Truth Be Told - These Were Fake Photos.


Just the Facts ~ RHF
.
.
= = = m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote in message
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> Rick wrote:
>
> > War is hell, guys.
> >
> > You gotta ask yourselves, though, even if these photos and
> > film clips are genuine, what motivation would these soldiers
> > have to allow their actions to be recorded on film? It's either
> > a case of really, really stupid soldiers (not likely) or a few
> > who're looking to take down their C.O.'s.
>
> There were supposedly thousands more confiscated as the troops
> were rotated out. They were circulating CDs they'd burned.
> Rape pictures were being circulated like trading cards.

MII,

Nice try at again at more Liberal Lies and Leftest Distortion of the Truth.

Try Being Honest and Keep It Real ~ RHF
.
.
>
> http://www.conspiracyplanet.com/channel.cfm?channelid=80&contentid=1221
>
>
>
>
> mike

Captain!

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May 7, 2004, 5:27:18 AM5/7/04
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"m II" <ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote in message
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> http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_raped.htm
>
>
>
> mike

those are old pictures. i have seen them before being used for some other
propaganda.
they probably are not even in iraq.


Frank Booth Jr

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May 7, 2004, 6:24:14 AM5/7/04
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m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote in news:PdFmc.5277$uN4.635@clgrps12:

> m II wrote:
>
>> http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_rapeXXXX
>
> It's been pointed out to me that these pictures were not taken in Iraq,
> but were in fact manufactured for the use of scum pornography mechants
> who make money from the misery of others.

Backpeddling furiously here, mike. Keep it up. And a hint - check your
sources before making a total arse of yourself. OK? ;-)

> If I had known they were fake I would not have posted the URL. It must
> be said that it's a sad state of affairs when something as disgusting as
> this can actually be thought of as being true.

Only by people like you who desperately WANT them to be true.

--
Frank Booth Jnr
A representative of The SXB Organisation

Frank Booth Jr

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May 7, 2004, 6:25:34 AM5/7/04
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m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote in news:vEGmc.5303$uN4.1373@clgrps12:


> It's been shown that they are not real. Even if they WERE real, the
> States wouldn't deserve an attack. What they deserve is a regime change
> in Washington. It's time to sweep the garbage out. God willing, that
> will come in November.
>
> Unless of course the electronic voting has been rigged.

Getting your excuses in early. If Bush wins, the voting is rigged, if Kerry
wins (LOL!!!) then it's all fine and dandy, eh?

adm

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"m II" <ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote in message
news:7jAmc.28465$U75.24114@edtnps89...
> http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_raped.htm
>
>
>
> mike

Idiot.

All the so called "rape" pictures are just from porn sites.

And as for torturing prisoners at Abuy Ghraib, so what ? These are hard core
terrorists and Baath party insurgents that would kill you sooner than look
at you. They aren't innocent little boys and the information they have is
needed to stop bullshit like 9/11.


Bigot

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May 7, 2004, 7:35:17 AM5/7/04
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"adm" <ad...@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
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>
They aren't innocent little boys and the information they have is
> needed to stop bullshit like 9/11.

So the deaths of mainly Christians on 11/9/02 was bullshit, what a strange
person you are.
BTW most of the so called terrorists were Saudi nationals, none of them were
ever in Iraq, but I suppose they did that to throw the CIA off the track:-)
Keep on believing the lies of Shrub, when the first atomic bomb goes off in
Seattle or Chicago, you'll not be surprised to find the Samoans did it:-))


kpfeif

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m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote in message news:<7jAmc.28465$U75.24114@edtnps89>...
> http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_raped.htm
>
>
>
> mike


Consider the source. Conspiracy.net? That's right up there with the
black helicopters, the CIA shooting down TWA800, et al.

m II

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May 7, 2004, 11:14:10 AM5/7/04
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Frank Booth Jr wrote:
>
>>If I had known they were fake I would not have posted the URL. It must
>>be said that it's a sad state of affairs when something as disgusting as
>>this can actually be thought of as being true.
>
>
> Only by people like you who desperately WANT them to be true.
>

This coming from a moron who is PROUD of having had TWENTY identities
on the newsgroup over the last three years and on top of that, forges
other people's postings. Nice going 'Steve X Brown'.

Steve X Brown is also delusional and receiving medication for his
problems. Being unable or too lazy to work, has been collecting
government assistance checks for quite some time. They must pay well, as
he has multiple internet accounts.

Steve, I don't hink you'd recognize integrity if it bit you on the ass.


mike

Frank Booth Jr

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May 7, 2004, 11:58:01 AM5/7/04
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m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote in news:6JNmc.13126$F04.8945@clgrps13:

> Frank Booth Jr wrote:
>>
>>>If I had known they were fake I would not have posted the URL. It must
>>>be said that it's a sad state of affairs when something as disgusting as
>>>this can actually be thought of as being true.
>>
>>
>> Only by people like you who desperately WANT them to be true.
>>
>
> This coming from a moron

So no real reply, just more 'insults'. Are you going to accuse me of
benefit fraud again, 'mike'? I still haven't had your apology. Still
getting the word just right are you?

> who is PROUD of having had TWENTY identities
> on the newsgroup over the last three years

Well yes! Imagine that! Less than seven new ids a year on average. And each
time I say "IT'S ME!". Are you going to do a Wotan and start complaining if
I post more than 4 times to a thread?

> and on top of that, forges
> other people's postings. Nice going 'Steve X Brown'.

Idiot. You missed the 'n' off the end of Steven.

> Steve

n

> X Brown is also delusional and receiving medication for his
> problems.

So you think I shouldn't have medication? Am I delusional about having
Crohn's Disease? Maybe my doctors just give me pills for the sake of it?
;-)

> Being unable or too lazy to work,

Unable at present. What's your excuse? You're unemployed too aren't you?

> has been collecting
> government assistance checks

'Checks'!!!!!!! You are morphing into an American aren't you!
You ignor-ANUS, it's 'cheques' here in Britain.

> for quite some time.

Nearly three years. Prior to that I worked for seven years. Prior to THAT I
was on various vocational training programmes and had a couple of short
term jobs. Now post your CV 'mike'. If you dare... LOL!!!!!!

> They must pay well, as
> he has multiple internet accounts.

Are you insane? I only have one ISP - BT Broadband.



> Steve, I don't hink you'd recognize integrity if it bit you on the ass.

Says the twat who was posting pornography early today!!!!! LOL!!!!!

George Kerby

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On 5/7/04 12:34 AM, in article PdFmc.5277$uN4.635@clgrps12, "m II"
<ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote:

You need to worry about other things. Canada is pretty fucked up. Start
working on things that are of more concern to you. In other words, "fuck
off, hockey puck!".


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May 7, 2004, 1:26:46 PM5/7/04
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ohmwork...@spots.ca (m II) wrote in
news:PdFmc.5277$uN4.635@clgrps12:

> It must be said that it's a sad state of affairs when something as
> disgusting as this can actually be thought of as being true.

Sounds like your own personal problem, doesn't it?

--
Bert Hyman | St. Paul, MN | be...@visi.com

Frank Booth Jr

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May 7, 2004, 2:12:36 PM5/7/04
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Bert Hyman <be...@visi.com> wrote in
news:Xns94E27E98936...@news.visi.com:

> ohmwork...@spots.ca (m II) wrote in
> news:PdFmc.5277$uN4.635@clgrps12:
>
>> It must be said that it's a sad state of affairs when something as
>> disgusting as this can actually be thought of as being true.
>
> Sounds like your own personal problem, doesn't it?

Indeed. He believes any anti-American bullshit that comes his way, and then
has to squirm his way out of it, when he's made to look an idiot.

RHF

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May 7, 2004, 2:29:00 PM5/7/04
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steve, Steve. STEVE !

As Offensive and Sick as these Photos were...

As Phony and Malicious as these Pictures were 'presented' as Fact...

Your Post "Exceeded" them in its Bigotry and Bias [.]

ysb ~ RHF
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m II

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May 7, 2004, 2:39:44 PM5/7/04
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RHF wrote:
> MII,
>
> Nice try at Liberal Lies and Leftest Distortion of the Truth.
>
> These Photos actually featured "Actors and Actresses" portraying
> U.S. GIs Gang-Raping Iraqi Women (Actresses)and are NOT Real [.]
>
> But the News is Already Out that these are 'in-fact' BOGUS Pictures
> of "GI Rape Photos used as Arab Propaganda Pictures purporting
> to be U.S. troops actually taken from porn sites."
>
> http://www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=38335
>
> * Graphic Photos appearing on Arabic websites of U.S. servicemen
> raping and sexually abusing Iraqi women were actually taken from
> American and Hungarian pornography sites are NOT Real.
>
> NOTE: Investigation has revealed that most of the Photos are
> taken from the American pornographic website "Iraq Babes,"
> and the Hungarian site, "Sex in War," were 'staged' with Actors
> and Actresses.


Does this add any credibility to the extremist Islamic view that the
West is decadent and will do ANYTHING for money? I also have a good idea
what who these pornographers are. They run sex slave rings in Israel too.

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=israel+sex+slave&btnG=Search&meta=


For the URL challenged:

http://tinyurl.com/2cwm9

Patrick L.

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May 7, 2004, 1:56:58 PM5/7/04
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>
> If they are real, then the US will fully deserve the next terrorist attack
on
> their shores.
>
>


That you would willingly wish death upon innocent people is reprehensible,
and incontrovertible proof that you are a total moron.

Patrick

Minolta Shooter (Colyn)

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May 7, 2004, 4:14:39 PM5/7/04
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On Fri, 07 May 2004 17:00:51 +1000, Ken Oaf <fi...@iprimus.com.au>
wrote:


>If they are real, then the US will fully deserve the next terrorist attack on
>their shores.
>

That statement makes you the worst son of a bitch on the face of this
earth for wishing death to innocent people...


Colyn Goodson

http://home.swbell.net/colyng

Camera manuals and mercury battery fix
http://www.colyngoodson.com

Weston Ranger 9 battery fix
http://www.colyngoodson.com/weston.html

Rick

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May 7, 2004, 4:28:59 PM5/7/04
to
"Minolta Shooter (Colyn)" <colyng@colyn_NOSPAM_goodson_REMOVE_THIS_.com> wrote in message
news:vbrn90163f89m52am...@4ax.com...

> On Fri, 07 May 2004 17:00:51 +1000, Ken Oaf <fi...@iprimus.com.au>
> wrote:
>
>
> >If they are real, then the US will fully deserve the next terrorist attack on
> >their shores.
> >
> That statement makes you the worst son of a bitch on the face of this
> earth for wishing death to innocent people...

This is a democracy. Who is our Commander-in-Chief again?
If you voted Bush in the last election, you're not innocent of
these war crimes, nor of his otherwise disastrous presidency.

Rick


Minolta Shooter (Colyn)

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May 7, 2004, 4:45:02 PM5/7/04
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On Fri, 7 May 2004 13:28:59 -0700, "Rick" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:


>This is a democracy. Who is our Commander-in-Chief again?
>If you voted Bush in the last election, you're not innocent of
>these war crimes, nor of his otherwise disastrous presidency.
>
>Rick
>

This has got to be the stupidist responce I have ever read...

One persons guilt does not reflect on others..

And to show your stupidity, these so called rape photos are fakes. The
webmaster of the websites they came from has already stated that they
are not real just actors posing..

George Kerby

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May 7, 2004, 4:46:19 PM5/7/04
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On 5/7/04 3:28 PM, in article 2g29sdF...@uni-berlin.de, "Rick"
<m...@privacy.net> wrote:

> "Minolta Shooter (Colyn)" <colyng@colyn_NOSPAM_goodson_REMOVE_THIS_.com> wrote
> in message
> news:vbrn90163f89m52am...@4ax.com...
>> On Fri, 07 May 2004 17:00:51 +1000, Ken Oaf <fi...@iprimus.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>
>>> If they are real, then the US will fully deserve the next terrorist attack
>>> on
>>> their shores.
>>>
>> That statement makes you the worst son of a bitch on the face of this
>> earth for wishing death to innocent people...
>
> This is a democracy.

No, Moron, the USA is NOT a Democracy. It IS a Representative Republic.


> Who is our Commander-in-Chief again?

SEESH what a memory

> If you voted Bush in the last election, you're not innocent of
> these war crimes,

<snip drivel from Moron post>
Just HOW do you come up with such a connection?!? FIND the Meds, OK?
MORON!!!!!

Tracy Fort

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May 7, 2004, 5:24:40 PM5/7/04
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On Fri, 07 May 2004 20:55:42 GMT, m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca>
wrote:


>Franklin and Jefferson are turning in their graves.
>
>
>
>
>mike


Oh how we wish you were with them!

Tracy

Unclaimed Mysteries

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May 7, 2004, 5:39:01 PM5/7/04
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Rick wrote:

> "Maria" <frust...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message news:409ad35a...@News.Individual.NET...
>
>>On Thu, 06 May 2004 20:04:14 -0400, Tracy Fort <no...@none.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>On Thu, 06 May 2004 23:58:59 GMT, m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca>
>>>wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_raped.htm
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>mike
>>>
>>>
>>>Good..
>>
>>Ah well.


>
>
> War is hell, guys.
>
> You gotta ask yourselves, though, even if these photos and
> film clips are genuine, what motivation would these soldiers
> have to allow their actions to be recorded on film? It's either
> a case of really, really stupid soldiers (not likely) or a few
> who're looking to take down their C.O.'s.
>

> Rick
>

Thanks, Rush.


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properly used, religion is the methamphetamine
of the masses." - nu-monet v6.0 in alt.slack

Bigot

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May 7, 2004, 5:46:38 PM5/7/04
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"Tracy Fort" <no...@none.com> wrote in message
news:tjvn90d6ei7l778i4...@4ax.com...

Stop coming on to him you sad sack of shit, he wants real women not plastic
bitches from Americkuntland:-))


helmsman

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May 7, 2004, 5:50:25 PM5/7/04
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m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote:

>http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_raped.htm
>
>
>
>mike

Americans and our Allies are dying. That's ALL that is important! And as far as the Jap's telling us
to follow the Geneva convention, they can KISS MY ASS!

Rick

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May 7, 2004, 6:06:51 PM5/7/04
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"George Kerby" <ghost_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message news:BCC15FC9.46440%ghost_...@hotmail.com...

> On 5/7/04 3:28 PM, in article 2g29sdF...@uni-berlin.de, "Rick"
> <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> > "Minolta Shooter (Colyn)" <colyng@colyn_NOSPAM_goodson_REMOVE_THIS_.com> wrote
> > in message
> > news:vbrn90163f89m52am...@4ax.com...
> >> On Fri, 07 May 2004 17:00:51 +1000, Ken Oaf <fi...@iprimus.com.au>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> If they are real, then the US will fully deserve the next terrorist attack
> >>> on
> >>> their shores.
> >>>
> >> That statement makes you the worst son of a bitch on the face of this
> >> earth for wishing death to innocent people...
> >
> > This is a democracy.
> No, Moron, the USA is NOT a Democracy. It IS a Representative Republic.

Yep, and we elect our representatives via democratic vote.

"They" didn't allow this to happen, WE did.

Rick


sodamgone

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May 7, 2004, 6:29:17 PM5/7/04
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"m II" <ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote in message
news:0LAmc.5210$uN4.3630@clgrps12...

> Rick wrote:
>
> > War is hell, guys.
> >
> > You gotta ask yourselves, though, even if these photos and
> > film clips are genuine, what motivation would these soldiers
> > have to allow their actions to be recorded on film? It's either
> > a case of really, really stupid soldiers (not likely) or a few
> > who're looking to take down their C.O.'s.
>
> There were supposedly thousands more confiscated as the troops were
> rotated out. They were circulating CDs they'd burned. Rape pictures were
> being circulated like trading cards.

the only entertaining part of this whole tragedy is watching the Neocons
dance and cluck like chickens.


sodamgone

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May 7, 2004, 7:01:30 PM5/7/04
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"Maria" <frust...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:409ad896...@News.Individual.NET...

> On Thu, 6 May 2004 17:24:22 -0700, "Rick" <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
>
> >"Maria" <frust...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
news:409ad35a...@News.Individual.NET...
> >> On Thu, 06 May 2004 20:04:14 -0400, Tracy Fort <no...@none.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> >On Thu, 06 May 2004 23:58:59 GMT, m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca>
> >> >wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_raped.htm
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>mike
> >> >
> >> >

> >> >Good..
> >>
> >> Ah well.
> >
> >War is hell, guys.
>
> Apparently so.

>
> >
> >You gotta ask yourselves, though, even if these photos and
> >film clips are genuine, what motivation would these soldiers
> >have to allow their actions to be recorded on film? It's either
> >a case of really, really stupid soldiers (not likely) or a few
> >who're looking to take down their C.O.'s.
>
> They can sell them for bucks to porn-deprived people?

there is no difference between "staged porn" and "American Society."


George Kerby

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May 7, 2004, 7:10:31 PM5/7/04
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On 5/7/04 3:55 PM, in article iJSmc.14838$F04.13829@clgrps13, "m II"
<ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote:

> George Kerby wrote:
>
>>> This is a democracy.
>>
>> No, Moron, the USA is NOT a Democracy. It IS a Representative Republic.
>

> Nope. It's a Constitutional Republic. The Constitution is the part the
> neo-Cons have a problem with. That and the Bill of Rights.
>
> The appointment of GW made the US into a Judicial Republic, which goes
> against everything the founding fathers wanted.

>
Like weeds you libs are. Pesky little pests.
Go cry in your mother's milk because you got four more years of one of the
best leaders this country has ever seen. Kerry will be out like a liar that
he has proven to be, a flip-flopping aristocrat back to his home state with
that other grotesque headed Ted "errr-uhh, where's my pants" Kennedy...

SO LONG< SUCKERS!!!!

m II

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May 7, 2004, 7:10:53 PM5/7/04
to
sodamgone wrote:

>>>You gotta ask yourselves, though, even if these photos and
>>>film clips are genuine, what motivation would these soldiers
>>>have to allow their actions to be recorded on film? It's either
>>>a case of really, really stupid soldiers (not likely) or a few
>>>who're looking to take down their C.O.'s.
>>
>>They can sell them for bucks to porn-deprived people?
>
>
> there is no difference between "staged porn" and "American Society."


Frank Zappa had some good insights into the workings of Babylon.


mike

George Kerby

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May 7, 2004, 7:17:33 PM5/7/04
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On 5/7/04 4:24 PM, in article tjvn90d6ei7l778i4...@4ax.com,
"Tracy Fort" <no...@none.com> wrote:

I JUST COULDN'T say that. LOL!
But a LOT here agree with you, Tracy!!!

George Kerby

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May 7, 2004, 7:19:08 PM5/7/04
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On 5/7/04 4:46 PM, in article 2g2edqF...@uni-berlin.de, "Bigot"
<som...@microshaft.com> wrote:

Your mother gave you that name?

m II

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May 7, 2004, 7:22:42 PM5/7/04
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Bigot wrote:

>>Oh how we wish you were with them!
>
>
> Stop coming on to him you sad sack of shit, he wants real women not plastic
> bitches from Americkuntland:-))

Tracy is a WOMAN? Well..I'll be..and here I thought he was just an
effeminate poofter variety homosexual. Not that there's anything RIGHT
with that, but I try to watch their itty bitty feewings..

Thanks Bigot..I owe ya!


mike


Frank Booth Jr

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May 7, 2004, 7:30:52 PM5/7/04
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m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote in news:6TUmc.6203$uN4.1232@clgrps12:

> Bigot wrote:
>
>>>Oh how we wish you were with them!
>>
>>
>> Stop coming on to him you sad sack of shit, he wants real women not
>> plastic bitches from Americkuntland:-))
>
> Tracy is a WOMAN? Well..I'll be..and here I thought he was just an
> effeminate poofter variety homosexual.

Showing your true self here, 'mike'? And there's you claiming to be a
bleeding heart yoghurt knitter, when all along you're a far right
homophobe!

m II

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May 7, 2004, 8:02:57 PM5/7/04
to
Frank Booth Jr wrote:

> Showing your true self here, 'mike'? And there's you claiming to be a
> bleeding heart yoghurt knitter, when all along you're a far right
> homophobe!

Yes. The Texas air will do that to you, you limpwristed welfare scamming
Spawn of Stan. (That's his ineffectual younger brother)


mike

Tracy Fort

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May 7, 2004, 8:10:07 PM5/7/04
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On Fri, 07 May 2004 23:22:42 GMT, m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca>
wrote:

>Bigot wrote:

>Thanks Bigot..I owe ya a blow job. Your place or mine?
>
>
>
>
>mike
>


Hey Friend of Bigot! It looks like they charged your girl Lynndie. Now
instead of hanging out in the bathroom jacking off to all those old
pics of her you will be able to see her everyday on CNN.

Tracy

RHF

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May 7, 2004, 8:27:33 PM5/7/04
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MII,

Had you simply said/written Sex Slave Trade (So called White Slavery)
that would have been good and a reasonable attempt to connect the
'questionable' Rape Photos with other world wide criminal activity.

But NOooooooooo You hade to insert "Israel" in to your statement.

MII - This simply shows your own personal Bigotry and Bias.

Actually one of the Oldest Slave Routes that Still exist goes from
Central Affrica to the Middle East. Black Slaves (Young Girls) for
their Arab-Islamic Masters and then shipped throughout the World.
[ The Sex-Slave Trade - Mainly Young Women is a World Wide Problem. ]

* Saudi Arabia - Facts on Prostitutes (Sex Slaves)
http://www.paralumun.com/issuessaudiarabia.htm

* Vietnamese Women are trafficked through the Vietnam-China
into the Sex Slave Trade.
http://www.paralumun.com/issuesvietnam.htm

Sudan and Trafficking in Humans, mostly Young Women and Children
are considered the most profitable war bounty.
http://www.paralumun.com/issuessudan.htm

* Sex Slavery awaits Ugandan Schoolgirls
- by Kathryn Westcott - BBC News Online
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/africa/3019838.stm

* Algerian Women sold into the European Sex Slave Trade
http://www.paralumun.com/issuesalgeria.htm
NOTE: Westernized Algerian Women who have identified
with secular culture in Algeria were kidnapped and
made into Sex Slaves by rebels fighting in the name
of the Islamic Revolution.

* Agents rescue "Sex Slaves" from Africa in the Ukraine
http://www.news24.com/News24/Africa/News/0,,2-11-1447_1489959,00.html

* Italy's Sex Slaves - Young Women from Africa and Eastern Europe
http://www.salon.com/mwt/feature/2003/07/03/prostitutes/index_np.html

* India has 1.3 Million Children in its Sex-Trade Centers
http://www.paralumun.com/issuesindia.htm

* Database to nab Sex-Slave Brokers - 20,000 women yearly into the
U.S. through Canada to work as Sex Slaves.
http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/Canada/2004/04/16/423846.html
[ Yes CANADA is a Primary Portal for the Sex Slave Business. ]

* Sex-Slave Trade flourishes in Thailand
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=26296

* JAPANESE WAR SEX SLAVES and the Japanese Sex Slave Trade
http://www.paralumun.com/issueswarjapan.htm
http://www.paralumun.com/issuesjapan.htm


This is Not America - Something to Think About ~ RHF
.
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.

Rick

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May 7, 2004, 8:39:22 PM5/7/04
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"RHF" <rhf-say...@pacbell.net> wrote in message news:ee137ed4.04050...@posting.google.com...

> MII,
>
> Had you simply said/written Sex Slave Trade (So called White Slavery)
> that would have been good and a reasonable attempt to connect the
> 'questionable' Rape Photos with other world wide criminal activity.
>
> But NOooooooooo You hade to insert "Israel" in to your statement.
>
> MII - This simply shows your own personal Bigotry and Bias.

Well, considering almost all of the major policy shapers in
Bush's administration (Wolfowitz, Bremer et al), as well as
the execs of the mouthpiece arm of the regime (Fox News/
MSNBC et al) are all rabid Zionists, Israel appears to be
the great unspoken motivator in this whole situation. So far,
Israel and Halliburton have been the only two beneficiaries
of "Operation Iraqi Freedom".

Rick


Elmer Thudd

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May 7, 2004, 9:04:01 PM5/7/04
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Rick wrote:

> Yep, and we elect our representatives via democratic vote.
>
> "They" didn't allow this to happen, WE did.

We?
You're posting from Berlin.
What's the "we"?
If you're a German or other non-American, you have no right to an
opinion on this.
If you're an American hiding^h^h^h^h^h^h studying in Berlin, then you
ARE entitled to your opinion, but should go fornicate yourself.

m II

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May 7, 2004, 9:26:43 PM5/7/04
to
Rick wrote:

>>But NOooooooooo You hade to insert "Israel" in to your statement.
>>
>>MII - This simply shows your own personal Bigotry and Bias.
>
>
> Well, considering almost all of the major policy shapers in
> Bush's administration (Wolfowitz, Bremer et al), as well as
> the execs of the mouthpiece arm of the regime (Fox News/
> MSNBC et al) are all rabid Zionists, Israel appears to be
> the great unspoken motivator in this whole situation. So far,
> Israel and Halliburton have been the only two beneficiaries
> of "Operation Iraqi Freedom".

Thank you. It seems everyone else, including the Iraqis, soldiers and
taxpayers are getting royally screwed. Why isn't Cheney being dragged
into court for war profiteering? If that isn't a case of insider
manipulation for profit I don't know what is. Then he has the damn gall
to try and screw the military with fraudulent billing. The man is a
first rate thief and slime ball. There is NO defense for him. The
military secrets being given to Israel who then turns around and sells
it to the communist Chinese needs a serious looking into.

Clinton was bad enough when he rented White House rooms to the Chinese
in return for campaign funds. Just how low can the political slimeballs go?

mike

mike


Rick

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May 7, 2004, 11:24:18 PM5/7/04
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"m II" <ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote in message news:nHWmc.25719$LA4.10668@edtnps84...

> Rick wrote:
>
> >>But NOooooooooo You hade to insert "Israel" in to your statement.
> >>
> >>MII - This simply shows your own personal Bigotry and Bias.
> >
> >
> > Well, considering almost all of the major policy shapers in
> > Bush's administration (Wolfowitz, Bremer et al), as well as
> > the execs of the mouthpiece arm of the regime (Fox News/
> > MSNBC et al) are all rabid Zionists, Israel appears to be
> > the great unspoken motivator in this whole situation. So far,
> > Israel and Halliburton have been the only two beneficiaries
> > of "Operation Iraqi Freedom".
>
> Thank you. It seems everyone else, including the Iraqis, soldiers and
> taxpayers are getting royally screwed. Why isn't Cheney being dragged
> into court for war profiteering? If that isn't a case of insider
> manipulation for profit I don't know what is. Then he has the damn gall
> to try and screw the military with fraudulent billing. The man is a
> first rate thief and slime ball. There is NO defense for him. The
> military secrets being given to Israel who then turns around and sells
> it to the communist Chinese needs a serious looking into.

Imagine what a Republican Congress would have done to Al Gore,
if Gore had been receiving $180,000 a year from his "ex" company,
while giving said company $8 billion, no-bid, open-ended government
contracts.. They would have demanded his head on a platter, yet
that's exactly what Cheney did, with not even a peep out of Congress.
With Cheney's operatives (Frist in the Senate, and DeLay/et al in the
House) they're literally getting away with mass murder. The whole
lot of them are oil whores -- even Condi Rice was on the Board of
Directors of Chevron for ten years.

> Clinton was bad enough when he rented White House rooms to the Chinese
> in return for campaign funds. Just how low can the political slimeballs go?

Well, the original name for Bush's action in Iraq was not "Operation
Iraqi Freedom", it was "Operation Iraqi Liberation", but Karl Rove
decided the moniker would have been a little too obvious -- even
the American people could have figured out that one.

Rick


m II

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May 8, 2004, 2:22:57 AM5/8/04
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RHF wrote:
> MII,
>
> Had you simply said/written Sex Slave Trade (So called White Slavery)
> that would have been good and a reasonable attempt to connect the
> 'questionable' Rape Photos with other world wide criminal activity.
>
> But NOooooooooo You hade to insert "Israel" in to your statement.
>
> MII - This simply shows your own personal Bigotry and Bias.

Pretty quick to kill the messenger. Take it up with Google, not me.

Go to Google. Put the words white sex slavery in the window. Press
return. What is the VERY FIRST COUNTRY THAT COMES UP?

I'll save you the trouble......

http://www.google.ca/search?hl=en&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&q=white+sex+slavery&btnG=Search&meta=
http://tinyurl.com/2hn2y


mike

RHF

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Rick - Thank You for Identifing Yourself ~ RHF

.

RHF

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MII - Thank You for Identifing Yourself ~ RHF

.

Frank Booth Jr

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May 8, 2004, 7:52:33 AM5/8/04
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m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote in news:RsVmc.25705$LA4.24522
@edtnps84:

Hilarious.

Bigot

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May 8, 2004, 8:24:54 AM5/8/04
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"George Kerby" <ghost_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:BCC1839A.46464%ghost_...@hotmail.com...

> On 5/7/04 4:46 PM, in article 2g2edqF...@uni-berlin.de, "Bigot"
> <som...@microshaft.com> wrote:
>
> >
> > "Tracy Fort" <no...@none.com> wrote in message
> > news:tjvn90d6ei7l778i4...@4ax.com...
> >> On Fri, 07 May 2004 20:55:42 GMT, m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>> Franklin and Jefferson are turning in their graves.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> mike
> >>
> >>
> >> Oh how we wish you were with them!
> >
> > Stop coming on to him you sad sack of shit, he wants real women not
plastic
> > bitches from Americkuntland:-))
> >
> >
> Your mother gave you that name?

My dear departed Mother named me John after my dear departed Father, and No
he didn't depart before I was born:-). he departed life at seventy two, ten
months after my Mother departed at Sixty nine.
I named myself Bigot because there are so many Bigots on these NGs, but they
don't realise they are:-))
I know myself and that is the greatest weapon any of us has, to know ones
self:-))


Bigot

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May 8, 2004, 8:28:31 AM5/8/04
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"m II" <ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote in message
news:RsVmc.25705$LA4.24522@edtnps84...

> Frank Booth Jr wrote:
>
> > Showing your true self here, 'mike'? And there's you claiming to be a
> > bleeding heart yoghurt knitter, when all along you're a far right
> > homophobe!
I absolutely adore that word, it infers you are frightened of some lace
sleeved prancing queen or some sad lonely wannabe lesbian dyke and it is
absolutely always used by some homopromo who is unable to adapt to either
being straight or Jooish:-))

Bigot

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May 8, 2004, 8:32:01 AM5/8/04
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"Tracy Fort" <no...@none.com> wrote in message
news:i39o909h8lorbo4t2...@4ax.com...
Hey Tracy!, I never jack off, I just bend it over a little and slip it into
my mouth and lick and suck until I throw a decent sized mouthful down my
gullet, I always drink a couple of pints afterwards, so when I kiss your
granddad goodnight I can smell your foul pussy on his breath:-))


gil

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May 8, 2004, 8:53:06 AM5/8/04
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The media should show some of the photos of the "real" tortures that were
going on in that same prison under Sadam, along with some "graphic" photos
of some of the American victims that have been killed by those same
prisoners

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Stephen Glynn

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May 8, 2004, 9:44:38 AM5/8/04
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gil wrote:

> The media should show some of the photos of the "real" tortures that were
> going on in that same prison under Sadam, along with some "graphic" photos
> of some of the American victims that have been killed by those same
> prisoners
>

One of the weaker lines of argument yet advanced.

First, I can hardly believe that Americans are reduced to bleating "at
least we're not as bad as Saddam Hussein" -- a proud boast indeed.

Second, which of the prisoners do you say killed any Americans and under
what circumstances or are you taking the generalist approach that "Some
Iraqis have killed some Americans. We want revenge and any Iraqis will
do"?

At least one of the Iraqi prisoners who appeared in the photos, btw, has
since been released. According to him he was picked up at a road-block
because he didn't have any ID with him and later found himself at the
mercy of Ms England and her inventive colleagues because he was
transferred to their part of the prison as a disciplinary measure
because he was involved in a fight with some other prisoners. I don't
think, therefore, that the US authorities can have thought he was
involved in killing any Americans.

Third, isn't it usual to let a court, a court-martial, or at least some
form of tribunal decide on guilt or innocence and then on punishment
rather than just leave the matter in the doubtless capable hands of some
West Virginia reservists and tell them to get on with it?


Steve

Greg Hennessy

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On Fri, 7 May 2004 22:54:00 +0200, "Hognoxious"
<hognoxious_kosher@!not!so!hotmail.com> wrote:


>
>Well the giveaway is this: "Please Note: Many of the photographs showing
>the rape of Iraqi women and the sodomization of Iraqi POW's at the Abu
>Ghraib prison are now at USA pornographic websites pointing to the
>possibility of collusion between the depraved US soldiers in the pictures
>and US based Jewish pornographers. "
>

The sad thing is that these f*ckwits are deadly serious.


>Foil hatted loons, the lot of 'em.
>

Of course our friend 'mike' here will find some other 'plausible' method of
explaining it away.


greg


--
"vying with Platt for the largest gap
between capability and self perception"

George Kerby

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On 5/8/04 7:24 AM, in article 2g41shF...@uni-berlin.de, "Bigot"
<som...@microshaft.com> wrote:

I'm sure that they are both SOOOO proud of their spawn.

Congrats for being the perfect ass...

Maria

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On Sat, 8 May 2004 13:32:01 +0100, "Bigot" <som...@microshaft.com>
wrote:

Ick. You have the vilest imagination!

Bigot

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"George Kerby" <ghost_...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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They often said they were, but as I don't believe in the after life, I
cannot in all conscience ask them:-))


> Congrats for being the perfect ass...

That's very sweet of you!
Thank you from the arse of my bottom!
I sit on the finest arse I have ever seen.
I generally use my arse for sitting on or enticing the attentions of young
women.
But at least once a day I shit through it, lucky old you, you get to shit
through your mouth, how convenient for you, here take this napkin you missed
a bit just on the tip of your nose:-)
I take it by your misspelling of arse that you are an Americkunt citizen?
Assuming that to be the case could you explain why so much of Americkunt
verbal and written abuse concerns the arse?
I'll bust yer arse!
I'll break your arse!
Kick his arse!
Fuck yer arse!
Americkunts seem to be fascinated with arses, could that be something to do
with the Red Indians buggering the male settlers instead of raping the
women?
You didn't know?
Well you do now:-)))))))))))


Bigot

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"Maria" <frust...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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Fight fire with fire Maria, don't pussyfoot around:-))
BTW how are you and your old man coming along with swelling your lips?
You've never said!
My ladies swear by it, they are so happy nowadays especially when their PMT
no longer raises it's ugly head:-))


Mark M

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May 8, 2004, 2:22:25 PM5/8/04
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"Ken Oaf" <fi...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
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> There is just too much corruption in the US Government. They make the
Nazis
> look like pussy cats.

This statement identifies you as an ignorant fool.

Were you to make such a statement under the Nazi regime, you would have been
either sent to a concentration camp, or shot.

Mark M

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May 8, 2004, 2:23:38 PM5/8/04
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"Frank Booth Jr" <frankb...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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> m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote in news:vEGmc.5303$uN4.1373@clgrps12:
>
>
> > It's been shown that they are not real. Even if they WERE real, the
> > States wouldn't deserve an attack. What they deserve is a regime change
> > in Washington. It's time to sweep the garbage out. God willing, that
> > will come in November.
> >
> > Unless of course the electronic voting has been rigged.
>
> Getting your excuses in early. If Bush wins, the voting is rigged, if
Kerry
> wins (LOL!!!) then it's all fine and dandy, eh?

It's amazing to me how delusional many ultra liberals are.


Gonzo

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May 8, 2004, 5:34:21 PM5/8/04
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It's all fake.

I have seen other pics of this set where the alleged soldiers are carrying
what appears to be paintball guns.

How lame is that?

They could at least have tried to make it look more realistic if they had an
agenda to feed.

"Rick" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message

news:2g039nF...@uni-berlin.de...


> "Maria" <frust...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message

news:409ad35a...@News.Individual.NET...
> > On Thu, 06 May 2004 20:04:14 -0400, Tracy Fort <no...@none.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Thu, 06 May 2004 23:58:59 GMT, m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca>
> > >wrote:
> > >
> > >>http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_raped.htm
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>mike
> > >
> > >
> > >Good..
> >
> > Ah well.
>
> War is hell, guys.
>
> You gotta ask yourselves, though, even if these photos and
> film clips are genuine, what motivation would these soldiers
> have to allow their actions to be recorded on film? It's either
> a case of really, really stupid soldiers (not likely) or a few
> who're looking to take down their C.O.'s.
>
> Rick
>
>


Bigot

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May 8, 2004, 6:15:51 PM5/8/04
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"Mark M" <mjmo...@goaway.cox.unless.no.crap.net> wrote in message
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ISTR the Nazis didn't have USENET in those days:-))


Bigot

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May 8, 2004, 6:17:32 PM5/8/04
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"Gonzo" <rmur...@hot.rr.com> wrote in message
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> It's all fake.
>
> I have seen other pics of this set
Please! I don't doubt for one moment your decency or honesty but I would be
grateful if you could post a cite:-)


Gonzo

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May 8, 2004, 6:29:59 PM5/8/04
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"Bigot" <som...@microshaft.com> wrote in message
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It was some time ago. Might have been at www.ak47.net or most likely the
usenet. Try a usenet search engine to search for similar file names a P2P
search.

The images I saw were much better quality and more revealing. It showed
several other images that killed any credibility such as:

1)Paintball gun used as weapon (guess they could not find an airsoft M16
toy).
2)Fake murder of alleged husband with no blood etc and
3)Fake army uniforms that any buck private could see was totally fake.

Pictures I saw were considerably better quality also. The ones posted here
are way too grainy.

Since I do not have an agenda I feel no need to do anybody's homework so
knock yourself out searching for them or feel free to let the anti-us
conspiracy theorists continue to cry wolf. Either way, Nothing personal.


Gonzo

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May 8, 2004, 6:33:23 PM5/8/04
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"Gonzo" <rmur...@hot.rr.com> wrote in message
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One last thing, in the pictures I saw they were wearing...get
this...sneakers.

Dead giveaway.

Only spetnaz types wear tennis shoes into combat as they are very relaxed
about uniform regulations and requirements etc.

m II

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May 9, 2004, 3:30:43 AM5/9/04
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==============================================


Pretty quick to kill the messenger. Take it up with Google, not me.
Go to Google. Put the words white sex slavery in the window. Press
return.
What is the VERY FIRST COUNTRY THAT COMES UP?

http://tinyurl.com/2hn2y

Also, I'd like to thank *YOU* for identifying yourself. Pertinent
details below:
==========================================================
The Bush administration was bracing itself last night for the release
of new pictures and video footage from Abu Ghraib which show US soldiers
having sex with an Iraqi woman prisoner, troops almost beating a
prisoner to death, and the rape of young boys by Iraqi guards at the jail.

Senior officials have warned that the new images and details of the
abuse and torture at the prison west of Baghdad will be even more
shocking than those already released. They will undoubtedly place even
more pressure on President George Bush and his beleaguered Defence
Secretary, Donald Rumsfeld, as they desperately try to limit the
political damage from the growing scandal.

NBC News has quoted military officials as saying that the new
photographsalso show US soldiers "acting inappropriately with a dead
body". This may refer to a picture, which The Washington Post described
but did not publish, of Sabrina Harman, one of seven reservists charged
with abuses, posing with thumbs up next to a decaying corpse.

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/story.jsp?story=519448
=======================================================

Ken Oaf

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May 9, 2004, 7:11:16 AM5/9/04
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On Sat, 8 May 2004 11:22:25 -0700, "Mark M"
<mjmo...@goaway.cox.unless.no.crap.net> wrote:

> > There is just too much corruption in the US Government. They make the
> Nazis
> > look like pussy cats.
>
> This statement identifies you as an ignorant fool.

And you are just an ignorant indoctrinated stupid American. Die well when the
time comes.

> Were you to make such a statement under the Nazi regime, you would have been
> either sent to a concentration camp, or shot.

I wouldn't be silly enough to do so in public. I can be traced to a public
Internet terminal, but, unless there are cameras both on me and the keyboard,
that is about it.

Mark M

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May 9, 2004, 1:03:12 PM5/9/04
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"Ken Oaf" <fi...@iprimus.com.au> wrote in message
news:6a4s9012mnakpn2ds...@4ax.com...

> On Sat, 8 May 2004 11:22:25 -0700, "Mark M"
> <mjmo...@goaway.cox.unless.no.crap.net> wrote:
>
> > > There is just too much corruption in the US Government. They make the
> > Nazis
> > > look like pussy cats.
> >
> > This statement identifies you as an ignorant fool.
>
> And you are just an ignorant indoctrinated stupid American. Die well when
the
> time comes.

I will indeed die well when the time comes.
You, OTOH...will die in bitterness, hatred, and ignorance.
You are free to die as you prefer, of course.

> > Were you to make such a statement under the Nazi regime, you would have
been
> > either sent to a concentration camp, or shot.
>
> I wouldn't be silly enough to do so in public.

In America, you are free to be silly.
In America, you could shout that in public with the full knowledge of the
government.
Friday some idiots like you stood up and shouted at the Secretary of
Defense--right in the room with congressman, generals, and secret service
agents.
All that happened to them was to be asked to stop disrupting the disruption.
Nazis, on the other hand, would have killed them.


m II

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May 9, 2004, 3:05:34 PM5/9/04
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Mark M wrote:

> In America, you are free to be silly.
> In America, you could shout that in public with the full knowledge of the
> government.
> Friday some idiots like you stood up and shouted at the Secretary of
> Defense--right in the room with congressman, generals, and secret service
> agents.
> All that happened to them was to be asked to stop disrupting the disruption.
> Nazis, on the other hand, would have killed them.
>
>

Any ideas why these two political satire sites have been shut down by
the University?

http://lart.colorado.edu/bush/bush_emporer.jpg
http://lart.colorado.edu/bush/

and you're quite right about the Nazis killing people.

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/article3943.htm

mike

Mark M

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May 9, 2004, 3:09:50 PM5/9/04
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"m II" <ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote in message
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The US government allows more than ANY political entity on Earth in terms of
governmental criticism. This is beyond argument.


Rick

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"Mark M" <mjmo...@goaway.cox.unless.no.crap.net> wrote in message news:Ynvnc.18785$ph.12881@fed1read07...

Not even close. Government criticism and political debate
in general are horribly limited, contrived and controlled in this
country, relative to the UK and most other socialist countries
in the world. Read "Manufacturing Consent" by Noam
Chomsky and Ed Herman sometime.

Socialism is the predominant form of government on our
planet, yet to represent the "left" in the U.S. we're given the
likes of Eleanor Clift and Phil Donahue. Carefully crafted
myopia.

Rick


m II

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May 9, 2004, 7:18:00 PM5/9/04
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Rick wrote:

> Not even close. Government criticism and political debate
> in general are horribly limited, contrived and controlled in this
> country, relative to the UK and most other socialist countries
> in the world. Read "Manufacturing Consent" by Noam
> Chomsky and Ed Herman sometime.
>
> Socialism is the predominant form of government on our
> planet, yet to represent the "left" in the U.S. we're given the
> likes of Eleanor Clift and Phil Donahue. Carefully crafted
> myopia.

I beg to disagree. With globalization, the new emerging structure in
government is Fascism. Mussolini said that a better name for fascism was
Corporatism. Do a quick search for 'Corporate State' and fascism. It's
enlightening. Communist China works under that model now.

Zappa once said that Politics are the entertainment branch of Industry.
He may well have been right.

mike

Rick

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May 9, 2004, 9:11:08 PM5/9/04
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"m II" <ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote in message news:I_ync.31150$LA4.4745@edtnps84...

It would be as accurate to say "Government is the enforcement
division of Industry". We're close to 100 years overdue for
another revolution, and it better happen quick or else the
downward spiral trend toward totalitarianism and fascism will
be irreversible.

Rick


Joe Hutcheon

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"Frank Booth Jr" <frankb...@lycos.com> wrote in message
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> m II <ohmwork...@spots.ca> wrote in news:PdFmc.5277$uN4.635@clgrps12:
>
> > m II wrote:
> >
> >> http://www.aztlan.net/iraqi_women_rapeXXXX
> >
> > It's been pointed out to me that these pictures were not taken in Iraq,
> > but were in fact manufactured for the use of scum pornography mechants
> > who make money from the misery of others.
>
> Backpeddling furiously here, mike. Keep it up. And a hint - check your
> sources before making a total arse of yourself. OK? ;-)

You should know; remember the 'PCs for travellers' fiasco? How we laughed!

> > If I had known they were fake I would not have posted the URL. It must
> > be said that it's a sad state of affairs when something as disgusting as
> > this can actually be thought of as being true.
>
> Only by people like you who desperately WANT them to be true.

Whereas people like you don't care whether they're true.


Solon

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On Sat, 08 May 2004 14:44:38 +0100, Stephen Glynn
<stephe...@ntlworld.com> enlightened the denizens of
uk.politics.misc by writing:

>According to him he was picked up at a road-block
>because he didn't have any ID with him and later found himself at the
>mercy of Ms England and her inventive colleagues because he was
>transferred to their part of the prison as a disciplinary measure
>because he was involved in a fight with some other prisoners.

Supporters of id cards in Britain please take note.


--
Solon

Luke Kaven

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rhf-say...@pacbell.net (RHF) wrote
> MII,
>
> Nice try at Liberal Lies and Leftest Distortion of the Truth.
>
> These Photos actually featured "Actors and Actresses" portraying
> U.S. GIs Gang-Raping Iraqi Women (Actresses)and are NOT Real [.]

Given the telltale presence of the "Jewish conspiracy" talk, this is
certainly not a left-wing invention, but more likely a right-wing
invention. I think you pulled out your banner too quickly to wave it.
When you can begin talking about both left *and* right distortions of
the truth, you might have some credibility.

Luke

Mike Terry

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Relevant to rec.radio.shortwave?

"Luke Kaven" <ka...@rci.rutgers.edu> wrote in message
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RHF

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= = = ka...@rci.rutgers.edu (Luke Kaven) wrote in message
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LK,

Consider the Source {MII)... and then Understand the Slant of the Rant !

Luke - Beware of the Dark Side :o) ~ RHF

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