Three clear signs there are Nixonian cover-ups. "...the old Washington adage that the cover-up is worse than the crime is true...."

[ПЈö'Донован]

Three clear signs there are Nixonian cover-ups. "...the old
Washington adage that the cover-up is worse than the crime is
true...."

May 20,2010

http://www.nationalreview.com/article/348757/three-signs-there%E2%80%99s-cover-john-fund

[mg]

> http://www.nationalreview.com/article/348757/three-signs-there%E2%80%...

What crime? Specifically what crime are you talking about?

[Alias]

ПЈö'Донован thinks it's a crime to be a Democrat.

--
Alias

The only real problems are avarice, anger and stupidity.

[abelard]

On Tue, 21 May 2013 12:28:30 +0200, Alias
<aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote:

>On 5/21/2013 12:26 PM, mg wrote:

>> On May 21, 4:20 am, ??�'??????? <gapa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Three clear signs there are Nixonian cover-ups. "...the old
>>> Washington adage that the cover-up is worse than the crime is
>>> true...."
>>>
>>> May 20,2010
>>>
>>> http://www.nationalreview.com/article/348757/three-signs-there%E2%80%...
>>
>> What crime? Specifically what crime are you talking about?
>>
>

>??�'??????? thinks it's a crime to be a Democrat.

surely only in the sense that stupidity is a crime

[:ПеаБраин]

On May 21, 6:26 am, mg <mgkel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 21, 4:20 am, ПЈö'Донован <gapa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Three clear signs there are Nixonian cover-ups.  "...the old
> > Washington adage that the cover-up is worse than the crime is
> > true...."

.................................................................................
> > May 20,2010
>
> >http://www.nationalreview.com/article/348757/three-signs-there%E2%80%...
............................................................................................................................................................

> What crime? Specifically what crime are you talking about?

jacksoncountyjournal
jacksoncountyjournal.com/‎
... Obama IRS delayed Tea Party group applications to limit their
political activities and covered it up to win an election.That is
obvious, inarguable, and criminal.

google: "That is obvious, inarguable, and criminal" and retrieve:

Bob Woodward compares Benghazi with Watergate. Is he right?
Yahoo! News - 17 hours ago
From Yahoo! News: Bob Woodward compared Benghazi to Watergate during
a
Friday morning appearance on MSNBC's “Morning Joe.”

[mg]

It hasn't been established yet whether or not there was any crime
involved in the way a few employees handled the applications for tax-
exempt status.The Inspector General has said that he doesn't think
there was and the FBI has opened an investigation to see if there was.
My bet is that the FBI will find that there was no crime involved.
What's your bet?

As far as I know, no one, anywhere, any place, at any time, has ever
suggested that there was any criminal activity involved, at any level
of government, in regard to Benghazi. If you can find one reputable
quote claiming that there was, I would love to see it.

[ПеаБраин]

............................................................................................................................................................................................

> As far as I know, no one, anywhere, any place, at any time, has ever
> suggested that there was any criminal activity involved, at any level
> of government, in regard to Benghazi. If you can find one reputable
> quote claiming that there was, I would love to see it.

Benghazi is worse than Watergate - baltimoresun.com
www.baltimoresun.com › News › ‎
4 days ago – In comparing the Watergate cover-up to the Benghazi cover-
up, the crimes involved are completely different but still crimes
("Benghazi ...

[mg]

> Benghazi is worse than Watergate - baltimoresun.comwww.baltimoresun.com› News › ‎

> 4 days ago – In comparing the Watergate cover-up to the Benghazi cover-
> up, the crimes involved are completely different but still crimes
> ("Benghazi ...

Watergate involved a whole bunch of different crimes. Here are some
things that President Nixon was personally involved in:

1. Broke into Democratic headquarters, photographed documents, and
planted bugs.

2. Broke into the office of Daniel Ellsberg's psychiatrist in order
to learn things that could be used to destroy his image in the press.

3. Attempted to plant left-wing materials in the home of the guy who
shot George Wallace.

4. Forged materials about foreign policy (the death of South Vietnam's
President Diem) in order to plant false stories in the press that
would hurt the Democrat.

5. Wiretapped government officials.

6. Paid a private investigator to tail Ted Kennedy.

7. Obstruction of justice.

8. Lied to FBI investigators and grand juries.

9. Destroyed evidence.

10. Paid off witnesses

So, there are 10 crimes that President Nixon was involved in and now
it's your turn to provide just one example of one crime that Obama has
committed or is suspected of committing and please do it in your own
words instead of providing a link that makes unsupported claims and
doesn't even provide one example of any crime that Obama is suspected
of committing.

[Alias]

On 5/21/2013 3:58 PM, mg wrote:
> So, there are 10 crimes that President Nixon was involved in and now
> it's your turn to provide just one example of one crime that Obama has
> committed or is suspected of committing and please do it in your own
> words instead of providing a link that makes unsupported claims and
> doesn't even provide one example of any crime that Obama is suspected
> of committing.

You're asking him to think for himself and he's incapable of that.

[ПеаБраин]

.....................................................................................................................................................................

> > Benghazi is worse than Watergate - baltimoresun.comwww.baltimoresun.com›News › ‎
> > 4 days ago – In comparing the Watergate cover-up to the Benghazi cover-
> > up, the crimes involved are completely different but still crimes
> > ("Benghazi ...

...........................................................................................................

> Watergate involved a whole bunch of different crimes. Here are some
> things that President Nixon was personally involved in:
>
> 1. Broke into Democratic headquarters, photographed documents, and
> planted bugs.
>

That's Leftist spin . Nixon didn't do it his very own self. Nixon's
'crime' was he tried to cover up the actions of others.

Besides nobody died over Watergate

[mg]

Nope. Wrong again. Nixon was personally involved in those crimes, in
addition to being involved in the cover up.

So, once again I ask you, and this is a very simple question.
Specifically what crime(s) has Obama been involved in, or suspected of
being involved in?

And, while I'm at it, specifically what crimes have been committed
that he is trying to cover up?

Waiting for your answer . . . waiting . . . waiting.

[mg]

My theory is that, after being indoctrinated by the Bible, for
instance, right wingers are so accustomed to believing everything they
read, that they just naturally believe any and all right wing
propaganda simply because it has been written down.

[Alias]

On 5/21/2013 4:59 PM, mg wrote:
> Nope. Wrong again. Nixon was personally involved in those crimes, in
> addition to being involved in the cover up.
>
> So, once again I ask you, and this is a very simple question.
> Specifically what crime(s) has Obama been involved in, or suspected of
> being involved in?
>
> And, while I'm at it, specifically what crimes have been committed
> that he is trying to cover up?
>
> Waiting for your answer . . . waiting . . . waiting.

Don't hold your breath ;-)

[ПеаБраин]

On May 21, 10:59 am, mg <mgkel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 21, 8:42 am, ПеаБраин <lapuant...@aol.com> wrote:

........................................................................... ........................................................................... ...............>
> Benghazi is worse than Watergate - › ‎

> > > > Benghazi is worse than Watergate - baltimoresun.comwww.baltimoresun.com›News ›
> > > > 4 days ago – In comparing the Watergate cover-up to the Benghazi cover-
> > > > up, the crimes involved are completely different but still crimes
> > > > ("Benghazi ...

........................................................................... ................................
>
> > > Watergate involved a whole bunch of different crimes. Here are some
> > > things that President Nixon was personally involved in:
>
> > > 1. Broke into Democratic headquarters, photographed documents, and
> > > planted bugs.

Nixon did not break into Democratic headquarters or anywhere else
personally did he?

> > Besides nobody died over Watergate
>

>

> And, while I'm at it, specifically what crimes have been committed

Ask Martha Stewart that question.

If there were no crimes there be no need for the cover-ups, not
necessary for Obama's officials to plead the 5th amendment and no need
for Hillary to agree to testify on Benghazi only if she was not sworn
in under oath.

[mg]

On May 22, 2:33 am, ПеаБраин <lapuant...@aol.com> wrote:
> On May 21, 10:59 am, mg <mgkel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > On May 21, 8:42 am, ПеаБраин <lapuant...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>  ........................................................................... ........................................................................... ...............>
>
> > Benghazi is worse than Watergate - › ‎
> > > > > Benghazi is worse than Watergate - baltimoresun.comwww.baltimoresun.com›News ›
> > > > > 4 days ago – In comparing the Watergate cover-up to the Benghazi cover-
> > > > > up, the crimes involved are completely different but still crimes
> > > > > ("Benghazi ...
>
>

> > > > Watergate involved a whole bunch of different crimes. Here are some
> > > > things that President Nixon was personally involved in:
>
> > > > 1. Broke into Democratic headquarters, photographed documents, and
> > > > planted bugs.
>
> Nixon did not break into Democratic headquarters or anywhere else
> personally did he?
>
> > > Besides nobody died over Watergate
>
> > And, while I'm at it, specifically what crimes have been committed
>
> Ask Martha Stewart that question.
>
> If there were no crimes there be no need for the cover-ups, not
> necessary for Obama's officials to plead the 5th amendment and no need
> for Hillary to agree to testify on Benghazi only if she was not sworn
> in under oath.

Just because a supervisor at the IRS pleads the Fifth, that does not
prove that Obama has been involved in a crime, or even that he should
be suspected of being involved in a crime. Similarly, just because
Hillary didn't testify under oath that does not prove that Obama has
been involved in a crime, or even that he should be suspected of being
involved in a crime. So, if you think these two situations prove that
Obama was involved in a crime, you don't understand the Justice system
and what's even worse, you don't even understand basic logic.

Therefore, I'm still waiting for you to answer my question. So, here
it is again:

Specifically what crime(s) has Obama been involved in, or suspected of
being involved in?

And, while I'm at it, specifically what crimes have been committed

[Alias]

There are none.

[mg]

ПеаБраин says there are crimes. The title of his post says there are
crimes. But there are no crimes and no suspected crimes. The only
place where there are crimes are in the fantasy land that right
wingers live in.

[ПеаБраин]

On May 22, 5:41 am, mg <mgkel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 22, 2:33 am, ПеаБраин <lapuant...@aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 21, 10:59 am, mg <mgkel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > On May 21, 8:42 am, ПеаБраин <lapuant...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >  ........................................................................... ........................................................................... ...............>
>
> > > Benghazi is worse than Watergate - › ‎
> > > > > > Benghazi is worse than Watergate - baltimoresun.comwww.baltimoresun.com›News ›
> > > > > > 4 days ago – In comparing the Watergate cover-up to the Benghazi cover-
> > > > > > up, the crimes involved are completely different but still crimes
> > > > > > ("Benghazi ...
>
> > > > > Watergate involved a whole bunch of different crimes. Here are some
> > > > > things that President Nixon was personally involved in:
>
> > > > > 1. Broke into Democratic headquarters, photographed documents, and
> > > > > planted bugs.
>
> > Nixon did not break into Democratic headquarters or anywhere else
> > personally did he?
>
> > > > Besides nobody died over Watergate
>

>

> what crimes have been committed
> that he is trying to cover up?

google: "crimes of the Obama administration" and retrieve "About
12,000,000 results (0.24 seconds)"

[Alias]

He asked you, not Google, bird brain. You've had two days and you've
come up with *nothing*, nutcase.

[ПЈö'Донован]

On May 22, 6:56 am, AliASS <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote:
> On 5/22/2013 12:30 PM, ПеаБраин wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > On May 22, 5:41 am, mg <mgkel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> >> On May 22, 2:33 am, ПеаБраин <lapuant...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >>> On May 21, 10:59 am, mg <mgkel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> >>>> On May 21, 8:42 am, ПеаБраин <lapuant...@aol.com> wrote:
>
> >>>   ........................................................................... ........................................................................... ...............>
>
> >>>> Benghazi is worse than Watergate - › ‎
> >>>>>>> Benghazi is worse than Watergate - baltimoresun.comwww.baltimoresun.com›News ›
> >>>>>>> 4 days ago – In comparing the Watergate cover-up to the Benghazi cover-
> >>>>>>> up, the crimes involved are completely different but still crimes
> >>>>>>> ("Benghazi ...
>
> >>>>>> Watergate involved a whole bunch of different crimes. Here are some
> >>>>>> things that President Nixon was personally involved in:
>
> >>>>>> 1. Broke into Democratic headquarters, photographed documents, and
> >>>>>> planted bugs.
>
> >>> Nixon did not break into Democratic headquarters or anywhere else
> >>> personally did he?
>
> >>>>> Besides nobody died over Watergate
>
> >> what crimes have been committed
> >> that he is trying to cover up?

..........................................................................................................................................................................................................

> > google: "crimes of the Obama administration" and retrieve "About
> > 12,000,000 results (0.24 seconds)"

...............................................................................................................................................................................................................................................

> He asked you, not Google,

> --
> AliASS

Washington Post May 14, 2013: "IRS employees may have “engaged in a
conspiracy” to block members of conservative groups from exercising
their constitutional rights." (clearly a crime)

Washington Post May 14, 2013:

"Federal authorities have opened a criminal investigation of whether
Internal Revenue Service employees broke the law when they targeted
conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status...

...IRS employees may have “engaged in a conspiracy” to block members
of conservative groups from exercising their constitutional
rights...."

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[Alias]

"May" being the key word. Now, again, sigh, what crime did Obama commit,
jack ass? Obama himself ordered the investigation, dumb ass!

[ПЈДоновини]

On May 21, 11:01 am, mg <mgkel...@yahoo.com> wrote:
> On May 21, 8:34 am, Alias <aka@masked&anonymous.com.invalid> wrote:
>
> > On 5/21/2013 3:58 PM, mg wrote:
>
> > > So, there are 10 crimes that President Nixon was involved in and now
> > > it's your turn to provide just one example of one crime that Obama has
> > > committed or is suspected of committing and please do it in your own
> > > words instead of providing a link that makes unsupported claims and
> > > doesn't even provide one example of any crime that Obama is suspected
> > > of committing.
>
> > You're asking him to think for himself and he's incapable of that.
>
> > --
> > Alias
>
> > The only real problems are avarice, anger and stupidity.
>
> My theory is that, after being indoctrinated by the Bible, for
> instance, right wingers are so accustomed to believing everything they
> read,

Isn't a hoot when Leftism claims to despise stereotyping out one side
of their mouths and then stereotype out of the other side of their
stupid mouths.

Like all conservatives are bible thumpers,

I for one happen to be a non church going agnostic and have been one
all of my life regardless of coming from a long line of Irish
catholics

[Je�us]

On Wed, 22 May 2013 07:00:28 -0700 (PDT), ??????????
<donov...@yahoo.it> wrote:


>Isn't a hoot when Leftism claims to despise stereotyping out one side
>of their mouths and then stereotype out of the other side of their
>stupid mouths.
>
>Like all conservatives are bible thumpers,

Left/Right
Coke/Pepsi
Labor/Liberal
Holden/Ford
Republicans/Democrats
Collingwood/Sydney Swans

Yawn.
Divide and rule.
Wake up.

[Dechucka]

"??????????" <donov...@yahoo.it> wrote in message
news:49ee4eaa-1790-45d7...@g9g2000vbl.googlegroups.com...

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thus proving the point

[Dechucka]

"mg" <mgke...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:5a7d815c-5de6-4051...@ys5g2000pbc.googlegroups.com...

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The reason everybody is taking the 5th is there are apparently national
security questions. The 1st building attacked was not actually the embassy
but the"compound" where the CIA was running operations to track potential
terrorists and to track down the Stingers that the had given to the Taliban
when they were the good guy ( now I'm sounding like a conspiracy nut).The
whole thing like normal is a mess

[Dechucka]

"ПеаБраин" <zucke...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:c1f097cc-15a5-468f...@d6g2000yqi.googlegroups.com...

================================

Google "Americans anally probed by aliens" and you get 2 000 000 hits,
doesn't make it true

[Dechucka]

"Dechucka" <Dechu...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:xdOdnQuH9ttPsADM...@westnet.com.au...

fyi http://au.businessinsider.com/the-secret-cia-mission-in-benghazi-2013-5
>

[mg]

When I Google "Republicans are crazy", I get 36,300,000 results
When I Google "crimes of Jesus Christ", I get 51,000,000 results.
When I Google "Republican lies", I get 54,000,000 results.
When I Google "flying saucers" I get 2,770,000 results.
When I Google "end of the world soon", I get 804,000,000 results
When I Google "flux capacitor", I get 1,860,000 results
When I Google "moon landing a hoax", I get 728,000 results
When I Google "9/11 never happened", I get 76,500,000 results

When someone is accused of committing a crime, the judge doesn't do a
search on Google to find out if he is guilty and neither does the
jury. So, why are you asking me to do a Google search in order to
prove you accusation that Obama has committed a crime, or is suspected
of committing a crime?

Why don't you just put up or shut up?

[mg]

OK. It looks like I was wrong about that one. So, tell me. Why then do
you believe that Obama has committed crimes when there is no evidence
to support your belief?

[Dechucka]

"mg" <mgke...@yahoo.com> wrote in message

news:ff0c67cf-0009-47f7...@hc4g2000pbb.googlegroups.com...

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not sure you are. IT has been indoctronaited as IT says

[ПЈö'Донован]

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> ...Why then do

> you believe that Obama has committed crimes when there is no evidence
> to support your belief?

See thread:

THEY KNEW: http://cdn.pjmedia.com/instapu ndit/wp-content/uploads/
2013/0 5/drudgetheyknew-600x454.jpg “Yes, the Obama IRS delayed Tea

Party group applications to limit their political activities and

covered it up to win an election. THAT IS OBVIOUS INARGUABLE AND
CRIMINAL

and thread:

Washington Post May 14, 2013: "IRS employees may have “engaged in a
conspiracy” to block members of conservative groups from exercising
their constitutional rights." (clearly a crime)

See also:

Lawsuit over IRS Tea Party scandal to be filed soon - WCPO.com
www.wcpo.com/dpp/.../lawsuit-over-irs-tea-party-scandal-to-be-filed-soo...‎
3 days ago – At issue was the improper targeting of conservative
groups with “Tea ... It likely will focus on potential civil rights
violations or those related to the ...

The precedent was set in the Nixon years.

Cover-ups of crimes by the people with the power to cover-up even for
those crimes committed directly by subordinates can be construed ro
be even more criminal than the original crimes themselves which was
the intial context introduced in this thread.

We know already that the fingerprints of Obama's closest aides are all
over the cover-ups.

[bringyagrogalong]

ПЈö'Донован <gapa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> The precedent was set in the Nixon years.

An arsehole republican.

No surprises there!

[mg]

I have a friend whose husband died awhile back and Social Security is
delaying the approval of her benefits. Does that mean that Obama has
committed a crime?

Some veterans have had their benefits delayed for more than two years.
Does that mean that Obama has committed a crime?

Just because there is a delay in the federal bureaucracy someplace
that doesn't prove that Obama, or anyone else, has committed a crime.

The Treasury's inspector general for tax administration conducted an
investigation of the IRS from June 2012 to February 2013 and found no
evidence of criminal activity and no evidence of involvement with
anyone outside the IRS, including the White House.

http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2013/05/irs-tea-party-ig-report-congress

The FBI, however, began an investigation about a week ago to see if
any laws were broken and they obviously aren't through investigating
yet.

> and thread:
>
> Washington Post May 14, 2013: "IRS employees may have “engaged in a
> conspiracy” to block members of conservative groups from exercising
> their constitutional rights." (clearly a crime)
>
> See also:
>

> Lawsuit over IRS Tea Party scandal to be filed soon - WCPO.comwww.wcpo.com/dpp/.../lawsuit-over-irs-tea-party-scandal-to-be-filed-s...