Dear foreigners;

[Liberals are VERMIN]

Please keep your tribal squabbles OUT of Canada when you come here.
Feel free to earn money, live where you want, avail yourselves of
whatever welfare you will, etc., but keep your backward, 5th-century
religious and/or cultural feuds back in whatever s--- hole you came
from.

[AC]

Practice what you preach first.

--
AC

[abelard]

your cult lives on divisions...without them you are done for

[Ramon F. Herrera]

What is wrong with celebrating our differences?

Oh, BTW, Abe: I just saw you in a video! Could not tell exactly WHO,
though. But I am 100% sure that you were there:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zfqw8nhUwA

-Ramon

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Jun 2, 5:54 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:

> What is wrong with celebrating our differences?
>
> Oh, BTW, Abe: I just saw you in a video! Could not tell exactly WHO,
> though. But I am 100% sure that you were there:
>
>    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zfqw8nhUwA
>
> -Ramon

-------------------

Would you Far Rightie folks please clarify for the audience your
position about the existence and organization of groups of interest
such as the ones below?

- Hispanic Americans
- Black Americans
- Jewish Americans
- Catholic Americans
- Female Americans
- Gay Americans
- Veteran Americans
- Red Sox Nation Americans
- Engineer Americans
- Weight Watcher Americans
- Right Handed Americans
- Equine Americans
- Poet Americans
- Six-Fingered Americans
- Gun Loving Americans
- Tea Bagging Americans
- (etc.)

Some of those groups look for alike voters and engage in political
activity to elect their people to Congress and other positions.

Some of those groups work very hard to make political and economic
advancements.

Some simply join to get the chicks (or mares).

You claim that being part of some of the above groups (those
conveniently selected by you) equates to "not being an American" or
being somehow less genuine or shameful.

So, which of the groups are acceptable and respected by the far right
that you so clearly represent?

-Ramon

[AC]

As per, you avoid the subject. The very definition of diversion. As you
say, post after post, you are indeed done for, which is why you descend
in to diversion every single time.

--
AC

[AC]

What ever suits at any given time. All that matters is that they are
nasty enough to get attention. There is a political right, then, what
these types are, rightards. They make me feel sorry for the sane right.

--
AC

[Buster@nyet.ca SpamБuster]

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[Dr. Staph]

In article <87333334-9674-4e91-9a5b-
81af60...@l1g2000yqf.googlegroups.com>

"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>

> On Jun 2, 5:22�am, abelard <abela...@abelard.org> wrote:
> > On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 09:46:07 +0100, AC <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote:
> > >Liberals are VERMIN wrote:
> > >> Please keep your tribal squabbles OUT of Canada when you come here.
> > >> Feel free to earn money, live where you want, avail yourselves of
> > >> whatever welfare you will, etc., but keep your backward, 5th-century
> > >> religious and/or cultural feuds back in whatever s--- hole you came
> > >> from.
> >
> > >Practice what you preach first.
> >
>
> > your cult lives on divisions...without them you are done for
>
> What is wrong with celebrating our differences?

Your celebrations are deliberately crafted to offend and inflame
racial tensions.

[AC]

Is this honestly the best you can do Abelardy? Shame you couldn't even
fake this properly.

I clearly didn't start the x-post. Clearly you can't cope with reason
and some one standing up to you. I guess this cowardly attempt at
intimidation is all you have left.


--
AC

[AC]

Only to a racist.

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AC

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On 6/2/2013 12:01 PM, Dr. Staph wrote

> Please keep your tribal squabbles OUT of Canada

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[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Jun 2, 2:01 pm, "Dr. Staph" <fe...@mexicanfood.com> wrote:

> Your celebrations are deliberately crafted
> to offend and inflame racial tensions.

That is certainly your prerogative. Feel FREE not to be offended.

-Ramon

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Jun 2, 5:22 am, abelard <abela...@abelard.org> wrote:

What is wrong with acknowledging our differences, and "Dare to Be
Different"???

http://goo.gl/i14er

We better (be different) because this -being conformant- is the
alternative:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zfqw8nhUwA

-Ramon

[abelard]

On Sun, 02 Jun 2013 20:06:22 +0100, AC <x...@xxx.xxx> wrote:

you couldn't 'stand up to' a wet paper bag...

as for faking posts...i have never done that, but many
have faked posts as coming from me...

[abelard]

no it isn't...
your comment is typical on/off 'logic' of the fundamentalist

> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zfqw8nhUwA

[Ramon F. Herrera]

Fair enough...

Care to explain your position about:

- The US Hispanic Chamber of Commerce (& Black)
- The Congressional Hispanic Caucus (& Black, and Asian)
- The National Council of La Raza
- NAACP
- NOW
- The Israel Lobby

Do you agree with the Freedom of Lawful Assembly and Association?

More specifically, if you were given the power, what would you do
about those organizations?

Bonus points: In their aptly named "Autopsy Report" the Republican
Party announced a multi-million investment on an outreach
organization. Your thoughts? Are they selling out? Being wise
followers (copycats?) of the Democrats?

-Ramon

[abelard]

On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 14:07:11 -0700 (PDT), "Ramon F. Herrera"

within my current knowledge of those orgs...nothing

but encouraging such factionalism, i regard as foolish/corrupt...
i prefer 'equality' before the law as far as that is available in
the real world

>Bonus points: In their aptly named "Autopsy Report" the Republican
>Party announced a multi-million investment on an outreach
>organization. Your thoughts? Are they selling out? Being wise
>followers (copycats?) of the Democrats?

i don't know about the 'autopsy report'

[Ramon F. Herrera]

You are criticizing some perceived "fractionalism" and don't even know
the most salient instances of it.

> but encouraging such factionalism, i regard as
> foolish/corrupt... i prefer 'equality' before the law
> as far as that is available in the real world

[Dr. Staph]

In article <2939f654-02f4-4ed0-8c61-
3c37d1...@2g2000yqr.googlegroups.com>

"Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
> On Jun 2, 5:54�am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
> > What is wrong with celebrating our differences?
> >
> > Oh, BTW, Abe: I just saw you in a video! Could not tell exactly WHO,
> > though. But I am 100% sure that you were there:
> >
> > � �https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zfqw8nhUwA
> >
> > -Ramon
>
> -------------------
>
> Would you Far Rightie folks

Illegal Mexicans should all be killed, piled and burned.

[abelard]

On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 14:22:33 -0700 (PDT), "Ramon F. Herrera"

your assumption set is irrational

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Jun 2, 4:20 pm, "Dr. Staph" <fe...@mexicanfood.com> wrote:
> In article <2939f654-02f4-4ed0-8c61-
> 3c37d1344...@2g2000yqr.googlegroups.com>

> "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
>
>
> > On Jun 2, 5:54 am, "Ramon F. Herrera" <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
> > > What is wrong with celebrating our differences?
>
> > > Oh, BTW, Abe: I just saw you in a video! Could not tell exactly WHO,
> > > though. But I am 100% sure that you were there:
>
> > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2zfqw8nhUwA
>
> > > -Ramon
>
> > -------------------
>
> > Would you Far Rightie folks
>

> Illegal Mexicans should all be killed, piled and burned.

Pray tell: would that be done under the leadership of the Republican
Party or a derivative/spinoff?

"Republicans on immigration reform: Before and after"

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/the-fix/wp/2013/03/20/the-startling-speed-of-the-gops-shift-on-immigration/

-Ramon

---------------------

“Republicans have been losing both the respect and votes of a group of
people who already identify with many of our beliefs in family, faith
and conservative values. Hispanics should be a natural and sizable
part of the Republican base,” Rand Paul said. “But they have steadily
drifted away from the GOP in each election. I think this says more
about Republicans than it does about Hispanics.”

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/right-turn/wp/2013/03/19/rand-paul-on-immigration-reform/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sen-rand-paul-endorses-path-to-citizenship-for-illegal-immigrants/2013/03/19/e262301a-9092-11e2-9cfd-36d6c9b5d7ad_story_1.html

[Ramon F. Herrera]

On Jun 2, 4:47 pm, abelard <abela...@abelard.org> wrote:

> your assumption set is irrational

I simply provided some examples. Let's try again:

Which organizations are Okay and which ones fall in the:

"but encouraging such factionalism, i regard as foolish/corrupt... "

Fractionalism category?

-Ramon

[abelard]

humans tend to form factions...

factions try to gain advantages...

humans are that way...

politicians with sense tend to act for the whole...

the whole is the country...even the country can
be read as 'a faction'

i've no idea what you are reaching for...do you?

[abelard]

On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 14:47:44 -0700 (PDT), "Ramon F. Herrera"
<ra...@conexus.net> wrote:


>�Republicans have been losing both the respect and votes of a group of

>people who already identify with many of our beliefs in family, faith
>and conservative values. Hispanics should be a natural and sizable
>part of the Republican base,� Rand Paul said. �But they have steadily
>drifted away from the GOP in each election. I think this says more

>about Republicans than it does about Hispanics.�


glory you are confused...

you may claim it says something about rand....but god knows what...

who is 'hispanics'
who is 'republicans'

[Nobody Likes A Tory]

On 02/06/2013 23:01, abelard wrote:
> On Sun, 2 Jun 2013 14:55:31 -0700 (PDT), "Ramon F. Herrera"
> <ra...@conexus.net> wrote:
>
>> On Jun 2, 4:47 pm, abelard <abela...@abelard.org> wrote:
>>
>>> your assumption set is irrational
>>
>> I simply provided some examples. Let's try again:
>>
>> Which organizations are Okay and which ones fall in the:
>>
>> "but encouraging such factionalism, i regard as foolish/corrupt... "
>>
>> Fractionalism category?
>
> humans tend to form factions...
>
> factions try to gain advantages...
>
> humans are that way...
>
> politicians with sense tend to act for the whole...
>
> the whole is the country

You clueless gimp, the politicians are for whichever lobbyist is giving
them the most money, they don't care about the country, it's all about
your beloved corporats, live in the now

NLAT

[Tom Sr.]

> --

> i don't know about the 'autopsy report'

Well, gosh gee, it was only a major story for about 1-2 months towards
the start of this year -- and something that was repeatedly discussed
by those with an interest in American politics, especially among
Republicans.

And you don't know about it, abelard.

Here again, people, with have an example of the truly ignorant far
right Ko0k.

.

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of The alt.usenet.kooks Awards: Palmjob Paddle (July 2008)*, KO0k of
the Month (Sept. 2012)**, and the Order of the Holey Sockpuppet (Oct.
2012)!***

* This award is given to the person who gets spanked (as in,
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** Given to someone whose Kookery is judged to have surpassed all
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*** For those most prolific in the art of, abiet thinly,
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We hope to return you to more rational posting after this brief,
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[SaPeIsMa]

"abelard" <abel...@abelard.org> wrote in message
news:l8fnq89fgtj5khj7a...@4ax.com...

Actually, the assumption that the right would wan to shut down opposition is
quite correct in a leftist framework
After all the left has NO PROBLEM using ANY means to silence it's
opposition. IT even has a history of killing them to silence them
So his question in that context is perfectly rational
That is why the left came up with the "fairness doctrine" to silence talk
radio which the right has so successfully used against it, and where Air
America and lesser attempts at imitation were complete failure
It's why we have the IRS "auditing" and processing at cold molasses speed
applications applications by groups perceived as right-wing, or containing
words like "patriot" or "tea party" in their names or affiliations
It's why we NOW have the DOJ investigating as terroristic and treasonous
acts leaks to media that put the administration in a bad light.
It's why Fast and Furious was concocted - to be used as another means of
undermining the 2nd Amendment and those who fight for it

Nope in the context of what they believe is justified, his argument is
perfectly rational BUT ONLY if he projects that mindset on the right.
Which is where his assumption fails.

[abelard]

On Mon, 3 Jun 2013 07:08:53 -0500, "SaPeIsMa" <SaPe...@gmail.com>
wrote:

just so...it is very difficult to get the socialist cultists to come
out into the real world...

as the saying goes:-
"some ideas are so stupid that only an intellectual could believe
them."

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