The Queen "is an Enemy of Islam"
Freeman
"AL-QAEDA has threatened the Queen by naming her as "one of the
severest enemies of Islam" in a video message to justify the July
bombings in London.
"The warning has been passed by MI5 to the Queen's protection team
after it obtained the unexpurgated version of a video issued by
Al-Qaeda after the 7/7 attacks. Parts of it were broadcast on
Al-Jazeera, the Arabic satellite channel. ..."
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,2087-1869849,00.html
The description of the Queen as an "enemy of Islam"was echoed by a
reformed Mujahiroun
http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=2265622005
-- the "Islamist" group whose members were famed for attacking ....
anti-war MP George Galloway.
(John Loftus, former prosecutor for the US Justice Department, claims
that Mujahiroun deputy Aswat was a British intelligence plant.)
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=viewArticle&code=20050801&articleId=783
Finally, yesterday "[t]he Sunday Express tells of an apparent
terrorist threat to the Queen, with MI5 agents hunting an al-Qaeda
gunman. There are fears the terrorist is planning what the paper calls
a Day of the Jackal-style assassination attempt."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/4453754.stm
... which underlines the sordid strip-cartoon level to which
petro-imperial propaganda has descended in its increasingly-frenetic
attempt to seize Mideast oil.
I believe an invasion of the next target, Iran, will be launched no
later than spring 2006. Driven by the carrot of oil and twin sticks of
failure and discovery, they cannot afford to delay any longer. ...
Big Pete
Freeman
Big Pete wrote:
> The reason for all of this is Prince Charles is a Muslim.
Really? I thought it was all a conspiracy from beyond the grave by Di.
Big Pete
>
> Really? I thought it was all a conspiracy from beyond the grave by Di.
>
Yes, have a read: http://www.faithfreedom.org/oped/sina51103.htm
Welsh Witch
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That makes you wonder doesn't it? Here's Minette Marrin's thoughts on the
matter I picked up nearly 4 years ago so Prince Charles' disease seems to
be ongoing...whats the cure?!.........
"""BE CAREFUL WHICH FAITHS YOU RESPECT, CHARLES
(Cutting The Sunday Times by Minette Marrin 21/4/02)
The desire of the Prince of Wales to be seen as a defender of faith and as
the prince of faiths is no doubt based on the best of all possible
intentions.
Otherwise his wish is naive. Would he, for instance, wish to defend the
faith of the Saudi ambassador to the Court of St James in London —
Prince Charles’s own address, incidentally — who has written a poem of
praise for Palestinian suicide bombers who die “to honour God’s
word”?
His Excellency Ghazi Algosaibi actually had the effrontery to have his
verses published last week on the front page of a mass-market Arabic
newspaper based in London. In praise of the first woman suicide bomber he
wrote that the “doors of heaven are opened for her”.^^^^^^(Blimey will
she have the usual 72 virgins and what on earth would she do with them??)^^^^^
What kind of faith is that? More to the point, does Prince Charles really
wish to endorse it? And does he wish to defend the beliefs of those
British Muslims — and there are some, maybe many — who share the
startling religious beliefs of this quaintly undiplomatic ambassador?
No doubt it takes great religious faith to blow oneself to bits in order
to kill lots of defenceless civilian infidels, even if one can expect a
substantial heavenly reward thereafter, but it is surely not a faith that
should receive the three feathers of the Prince of Wales.
What better example could there be of the thoughtless folly of western
liberalism generally? It is an article of modern liberal faith that all
religions deserve respect, and equal respect. That is the belief that lies
behind the prince’s new project ^^^^Respect,^^^^
(copy cat George
Galloway!!)^^^^^
aimed at increasing the understanding between faiths,
which he intends to launch later this month.
It seems to me a dangerous assumption that all faiths deserve respect.
Religions are not all the same. Faith is not necessarily good in itself.
Adherents of the same religion do not necessarily all hold the same faith;
the result is endless squabbling, often bloody, about what is the true
faith.
Self-appointed defenders would hardly know which bit or which person to
defend. Admittedly, it is not difficult to understand how those who have
grown up in the gentle, undemanding and aesthetically delightful embrace
of the Church of England, like Prince Charles, have come to feel that
faith is something nice but vague and that religion does not have to
amount to anything awkward — or to anything much at all, necessarily.
This is the church of St John Betjeman, which I love myself, even though I
am an agnostic. One of the greatest achievements of western civilisation
is a church that is agreeably free of rules or faith — the via
anglicana.
In this tradition of extreme tolerance and private devotion, it is easy to
forget how many people died in agony in the reformation to achieve it and
to divorce religion from politics and the public sphere.
In fact, most other religions affect every aspect of life. It has been
easy in the post-reformation world to make the ignorant assumption that
all faiths are pretty much the same underneath, give or take the odd
cultural quirk; this was the homogenised, brown Windsor soup view of
religion, which reduces all differences to a featureless sludge.
It ignores the unmentionable truth that faiths differ fundamentally and
are not all equally worthy of respect. If one has any strong beliefs
oneself — religious or not — it is absurd to express respect for
opposing beliefs or practices that seem ignorant or barbaric.
One might show respect for the people holding those beliefs, or tolerance
for their beliefs, but this sentimental scramble for universal respect is
in reality no respect at all. It is also at odds with self-respect. One
cannot truly respect religious laws that permit the exploitation of women
and require flogging or amputation or execution for adultery.
There was a case recently in Nigeria where a woman was sentenced to be
buried up to her neck in sand and stoned to death, under Islamic law; the
wretched victim herself did not question the justice of the law, merely
its application to her.
One cannot respect the views, however sincere, of those religious
extremists who claim that God has granted them Judaea and Samaria and that
they have a divine right to settle there. It is hard for a westerner to
think of anything good about the caste system, which is enshrined in
religion and which to this day condemns millions of untouchables to lives
of filth and misery in their traditional role as bearers of pollution.
It is impossible to have much time for Christian creationists who ignore
all the scientific evidence for the theory of evolution in favour of a
world view that is quite indifferent to any evidence at all, other than
the word of God, which is not what rational people consider evidence.
People of faith tend to have a cavalier attitude to evidence, as seen in
pogroms and autos-da-fé.
In my days in BBC television’s religious programmes I used to be shocked
and amazed that educated Christians in prosperous leafy suburbs would pray
to God for specific items, such as a dishwasher for their leader, as marks
of divine favour. Somehow they were never disappointed, whatever the
outcome.
Evangelists are actually allowed to advertise miraculous healing in the
western world, although in years of research I have never found a single
substantiated example of it. It is hard to have any respect for such
deception and self-deception in the name of faith, least of all among
educated people. Then there are what you might call the disorganised
faiths.
A mutilated body was fished out of the Thames recently; the dead child was
allegedly killed in a voodoo ritual, performed, no doubt, by people of an
extremely powerful faith; you would have to have quite strong beliefs to
kill a child for them.
One can only wonder whether members of the voodoo faith would be included
in respectful interfaith celebrations. Perhaps, in these
non-discriminatory, non-judgmental times, druids, pagans, witches (white
and black), and perhaps even Satanists would have to be invited as well.
Oh, and of course the present Saudi ambassador, with his belief in God’s
reward for suicide bombers and the “darkness” filling the White House.
What hell those interfaith celebrations would be.
One television news bulletin is — or ought to be — enough to show that
most of the miseries and atrocities in the world today have to do with
religion. People all over the planet have enough faith, or think they do,
to kill and maim and bomb and rape and rob.
It may be that humans simply use religion to justify what they would do
anyway, for good and evil; it may be that religion is not directly to
blame for the evil that is done in the name of faith. But looking at the
world today it would be unwise to bet on that. Meanwhile, the less said in
defence of faith the better.
It might be good for people to understand each other’s faiths better,
although familiarity does not always breed respect. But the Prince of
Wales is wrong if he thinks he will find a useful feel good function in
the highly inflammable, highly politicised confusion that is faith in a
multiracial society today. A brief conversation with the Saudi ambassador
might help to demonstrate this point.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Since Minette wrote the foregoing she has no doubt been gob-smacked to
discover that the Royal Navy are allowing a Satanist to practice on board
a ship at sea, and that prisoners have been given the go-ahead to practice
witchcraft in PRISON! THigs are marching ahead at an alarming rate
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Big Pete
The idea seems very simple. kill the Queen and hail Prince Charles the
Muslim King.
The main goal of any religion is to propagate itself by any means.
It's a meme. A unit of cultural information, such as a cultural practice or
idea, that is transmitted verbally or by repeated action from one mind to
another.
Freeman
They're probably in league with aliens. They're certainly not human.
;-)
Ian
We didn't need to hear it from Al-Quaeda, nostrodamus said it years ago.
Sleepyhead
choose he wants to defend. Go ahead and choose to be a vodoo child
sacrificer - it is your right to choose to be hunted down like a dog,
locked up for life etc. Faith has nothing to do with religion!
The Doctor
Big Pete <PeteHi...@honkermail.com> wrote:
>The reason for all of this is Prince Charles is a Muslim.
>
>
Another Constitutional Crisis looms.
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God Queen and country! Beware Anti-Christ rising! Remember Christ is the
Reason for the Season . Happy Christmas 2005 and Merry New Year 2006
Big Pete
>
> Another Constitutional Crisis looms.
Oh and his younger son is slightly rightwing :-)
As in he likes to go to parties dress up as Hitler
GEM
"Freeman" <libertyst...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
news:1132572490.2...@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
> On 13 November we learned from the Sunday Times that
>
> "AL-QAEDA has threatened the Queen by naming her as "one of the
> severest enemies of Islam" in a video message to justify the July
> bombings in London.
>
hehehehe - a video produced by the same folks who pulled off the bombing of
course - the British secret services. This is getting tiresome.
GEM
Freeman
If they get bored with it, they can always stage some new
media-art-event, and burn down the Reichstag again. :-)
GEM
Except I got this bad feeling that Bush is still miffed at them Canuks for
saying No to joining the Great Game, and has yet to exact proper revenge ...
Mad Cow and SARS notwithstanding...
Canucks; during a huge disaster, will appear to be both British and American
on video and will save BushCo and The Blair tons of PR expenditures, as they
will evoke the same emotions in all three nations once the sound is properly
edited.
Spooks love getting three results with one action.
I live in Canada.
And I'd rather not be in the third PNAC Pearl Harbour production. :)
GEM