Shades of Dunblane?
Roger Dewhurst
http://www.vialls.homestead.com/portarthur2~ns4.html
http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial/bryant/index.htm
http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/palies1.htm
http://www.overflow.net.au/~nedwood/portarthur.html
http://www.publicdebate.com.au/is/246/
http://www.aia.net.au/freedom/palies2.html
--
Roger Dewhurst,
ROTORUA, N.Z.
Politicians and babies nappies
should be changed frequently,
and for much the same reason.
John Sefton
"Roger Dewhurst" <dewh...@wave.co.nz> wrote in message
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> If you are disposed to trust your political leaders try reading these:
>
> http://www.vialls.homestead.com/portarthur2~ns4.html
>
> http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial/bryant/index.htm
>
> http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/palies1.htm
>
> http://www.overflow.net.au/~nedwood/portarthur.html
>
> http://www.publicdebate.com.au/is/246/
>
> http://www.aia.net.au/freedom/palies2.html
Puhleease, Roger! If you want to defend gun ownership, do so by using
rational arguments and factual evidence, not bullshit conspiracy theories
spun by One Nation wannabes!
Hint as to the veracity of this particular conspiracy theory: Pauline
herself mentioned it only a few weeks ago.
Peter
<jse...@cyberelectric.net.au> wrote:
>
>"Roger Dewhurst" <dewh...@wave.co.nz> wrote in message
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>> If you are disposed to trust your political leaders try reading these:
>>
Please, I am too busy to start another 'Guns Kill' campaign just yet.
Peter
Roger Dewhurst
"John Sefton" <jse...@cyberelectric.net.au> wrote in message
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It is easy enough to write it off to conspiracy theory and point to One
Nation. However there are a number of questions which need to be answered
before the matter can be written off as conspiracy. The matter arose long
before One Nation was formed. Hansen may have chosen to use it later. So
what?
1. How does a borderline mental defective perform like a professional army
trained hit man?
2. Both his hit rate and killing ratio were high in the cafe shooting at
civilians yet the shooter missed with all of 250 to 300 shots when shooting
at the police later. Why?
3. In the cafe the gunman fired right handed from the hip. Bryant is left
handed.
4. Nobody without excellent ear protection could have fired more than one
or two shots in the confined space of the cafe without becoming disoriented.
Anybody who has fired a high powered rifle in any sort of confined or semi
confined space will be aware of the effects. Bryant was interviewed by the
police quite shortly after the event. If he had fired those shots he could
not have been interviewed for days afterwards. He would not be able to hear
a word said to him. Unless of course he did have excellent ear protection.
Would he? After all he is a borderline mental defective. Of course the
gunman did use ear protection and covered it with a wig.
5. There was no identification of Bryant at the cafe scene. He was
identified at the other site from which he staggered with his clothes on
fire.
6. Both the weapons which were alleged to have been fired by Bryant were
somehow blown up rendering forensic evidence unavailable. One of these
weapons was reported to have been handed in at a police amnesty several
months earlier.
There are numerous other matters which need to be addressed.
If you have evidence that the "facts" as given by Vialls and others are
incorrect then provide that evidence. In the absence of contractory
evidence it seems fair to accept certain facts provided by Vialls and others
as correct. One does not have to accept Vialls or others' interpretation of
the facts.
>
>
>
>
ShaggyKiwi
they are silent and deady....
"What???"
Dr John The Night Tripper
believe the judiciary as well.
There is a ton of material, not hysterical in the least... a lot of it from
contributors to the Cullen enquiry into Dunblane... which casts more than
doubt on the proceedings and even more on the result. Look it up.
I may or may not choose to believe that this incident (Port Arthur) was
contrived in order to foster a gun-control culture, but I defy anyone to
tell me that the maggots (politicians) are not eminently capable of it. To
believe otherwise now is childish naievity. Most people who like to dismiss
conspiracy theories, like the Kennedy job, WANT to believe otherwise because
its safer. The alternative is to face the fact of corruption in control, and
this is a difficult thing to face. Far easier to dismiss it and carry on as
if nothing was wrong.
Do you really believe that maggot Vaz did not accept cash for himself in
exchange for preferrments? Do you really believe that unemployment is down
to 1 million people? Do you really believe what you see on the TV News?
I know media manipulation is subtle and insidious but you really must try to
see through it. We get what they feed us... use the on-line newpapers and
compare the two. You'll see all sorts of items in papers like the on-line
Telegraph and Guardian that you'll never see on the TV news.
Don't take my word for it... try it for yourself.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/
Dr John
"Roger Dewhurst" <dewh...@wave.co.nz> wrote in message
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...Tom
>
>http://www.vialls.homestead.com/portarthur2~ns4.html
>
>http://www.crimelibrary.com/serial/bryant/index.htm
>
>http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/palies1.htm
>
>http://www.overflow.net.au/~nedwood/portarthur.html
>
>http://www.publicdebate.com.au/is/246/
>
>http://www.aia.net.au/freedom/palies2.html
>
>
>--
> Roger Dewhurst,
> ROTORUA, N.Z.
ROFL. I hope you have your tin foil hat on Roger. The aliens might be
listening.
...Tom
Roger Dewhurst
"...Tom" <to...@ihug.co.blahblah.nz> wrote in message
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How much of this material have you read? How much evidence do you have that
the substance of the accounts are factually incorrect?
R
...Tom
>the substance of the accounts are factually incorrect?
Two of the URLs were enough to get a fairly clear idea of where they
were going. Once I saw the sites were self referential and so, in
effect, just one site I didn't waste my time on the rest.
The claim is that a person or persons unknown deliberately massacred a
number of people for their own nefarious purposes. The evidence
presented is mostly of the conspiracy form in which one casts doubt on
the existing story and then by suggestion and innuendo presents an
alternative story.
There may well be some flaws in the procedure and/or case against
Martin Bryant. There are few criminal cases in which there aren't. The
authors will have to do a lot better than paranoid supposition if they
want their crackpot alternatives taken seriously.
Seriously Roger. Check your tin foil hat. The NWO might be monitoring
this case
...Tom
Roger Dewhurst
> in reply to "Roger Dewhurst" <dewh...@wave.co.nz>
> >How much of this material have you read? How much evidence do you have
that
> >the substance of the accounts are factually incorrect?
>
> Two of the URLs were enough to get a fairly clear idea of where they
> were going. Once I saw the sites were self referential and so, in
> effect, just one site I didn't waste my time on the rest.
You certainly did not read much. One contained the conventional view!
>
> The claim is that a person or persons unknown deliberately massacred a
> number of people for their own nefarious purposes.
The massacre took place. The debate is simply about who did it. Why comes
later.
>The evidence
> presented is mostly of the conspiracy form in which one casts doubt on
> the existing story and then by suggestion and innuendo presents an
> alternative story.
Certainly the evidence casts doubt on the conventional story. How do you
manage to come to the conclusion that Bryant was capable of the act? He is
a borderline mental defective. Where do you suppose that he acquired the
necessary skill? Where do you suppose he obtained the weapons? Why did one
of the weapons recovered later carry the serial number of a weapon handed in
to the police in an amnesty several months earlier? What evidence was there
that Bryant did it? There was no identification of him and no forensic
evidence linking him to the cafe, the weapons or the bullets fired. The
only man knowing Bryant talked to the killer in a car and did not recognise
him as Bryant.
Brian Dooley
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 19:00:03 +1300, "BTMO"
<btmo_...@hotmail.com> wrote:
snip---
>I'm not silly
>enough to fire a rifle without hearing protection, so I have no idea *what*
>the physiological effects are. I do know however that in wars, soldiers fire
>lots of rounds - historically without hearing protection.
There would have been a few ears ringing after the first day of
El Alamein.
>They seem to keep
>going. Dad was in the army in WW2, a bren gunner - I don't remember him ever
>saying that he needed a lie down after firing of a few mags.
Yup, I've done a bit with a bren, and without ear defenders. And
with an SMLE, and a sten, but the loudest bang *I've* been next
to is a 25pdr, which was like being slapped all over at the same
time, but none of our gunners wore anything. And nobody wore
anything in Korea either.
Brian Dooley
Wellington New Zealand
Brian Dooley
On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:42:40 +1300, Owen McShane
<omcs...@wk.planet.gen.nz> wrote:
snip---
>I quite like politicians - and I know many of them. It's governments I
>don't like.
>Most New Zealanders hate politicians and love government.
There's an assumption for you.
>I find this
>position a paradox whereas my own is quite understandable.
Now you're just trying to be clever.
Dersu
> concerns may well be valid, but they don't suggest a conspiracy of any
> sort.
Can anyone suggest a reason why there has not been a Commission of Enquiry?
I would have thought that the death of so many innocent people in such
terrible circumstances would be cause for a thorough investigation wouldn't
they? Can you, for example, imagine the outcry there would have been if our
government had said an enquiry into Cave Creek was not necessary because "we
know why they died, it was because the platform collapsed." In light of that
who will offer an explanation for the failure to hold a public enquiry into
Port Arthur? For me the fact that the Howard government has not enquired
into the events at Port Arthur seem to be the most suspicious thing in the
whole affair.
D.
Roger Dewhurst
> concerns may well be valid, but they don't suggest a conspiracy of any
> sort.
If Bryant did not do the shooting a conspiracy is the only plausible
explanation left.
Any problem that Australia has, we have too if to a lesser extent.
...Tom
>> I don't particularly care. It is Australias problem. The above
>> concerns may well be valid, but they don't suggest a conspiracy of any
>> sort.
>
>If Bryant did not do the shooting a conspiracy is the only plausible
>explanation left.
Quick Roger, I think the tin foil hat is loose.
...Tom
Joe Bridgehouse
--
Joe Bridgehouse
www.joe-bridgehouse.cwc.net
Owen McShane <omcs...@wk.planet.gen.nz> wrote in message
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> I quite like politicians - and I know many of them. It's governments I
> don't like.
> Most New Zealanders hate politicians and love government. I find this
> position a paradox whereas my own is quite understandable.
> --
> Owen McShane, Rangiora Road, Northland, NZ
> See "Straight Thinking On Line" (http://mcshane.orcon.net.nz)
Owen McShane
BTMO
Roger Dewhurst wrote
Please see below:
> > Puhleease, Roger! If you want to defend gun ownership, do so by using
> > rational arguments and factual evidence, not bullshit conspiracy
theories
> > spun by One Nation wannabes!
> >
> > Hint as to the veracity of this particular conspiracy theory: Pauline
> > herself mentioned it only a few weeks ago.
>
> It is easy enough to write it off to conspiracy theory and point to One
> Nation. However there are a number of questions which need to be answered
> before the matter can be written off as conspiracy. The matter arose long
> before One Nation was formed. Hansen may have chosen to use it later. So
> what?
>
> 1. How does a borderline mental defective perform like a professional
army
> trained hit man?
The couple of links I opened indicated he was firing from quite close range.
You don't need to be an army trained hit man in this situation.
> 2. Both his hit rate and killing ratio were high in the cafe shooting at
> civilians yet the shooter missed with all of 250 to 300 shots when
shooting
> at the police later. Why?
The range was about 10 feet? (I ate in that cafe years ago btw..)
> 3. In the cafe the gunman fired right handed from the hip. Bryant is
left
> handed.
AR-15's throw spent shells from the right hand side with some force. Firing
one left handed means you get hit in the head (yes, I noticed you wrote
"from the hip") with hot brass. Even psychotic killers get distracted by hot
brass plowing into them.
> 4. Nobody without excellent ear protection could have fired more than one
> or two shots in the confined space of the cafe without becoming
disoriented.
> Anybody who has fired a high powered rifle in any sort of confined or semi
> confined space will be aware of the effects. Bryant was interviewed by
the
> police quite shortly after the event. If he had fired those shots he
could
> not have been interviewed for days afterwards. He would not be able to
hear
> a word said to him. Unless of course he did have excellent ear
protection.
> Would he? After all he is a borderline mental defective. Of course the
> gunman did use ear protection and covered it with a wig.
Adrenaline is a funny hormone - but you are generalising. I'm not silly
enough to fire a rifle without hearing protection, so I have no idea *what*
the physiological effects are. I do know however that in wars, soldiers fire
lots of rounds - historically without hearing protection. They seem to keep
going. Dad was in the army in WW2, a bren gunner - I don't remember him ever
saying that he needed a lie down after firing of a few mags.
<rest snipped - I can add nothing to the discussion there>
Cheers,
Brenton
--
Show them you care, stalk them.
BTMO, 2000
www.btmoland.homestead.com
Its where reality takes a holiday!
Roger Dewhurst
"John Sefton" <jse...@cyberelectric.net.au> wrote in message
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>
> news:98o2bi$smp$1...@news.wave.co.nz...
> Puhleease, Roger! If you want to defend gun ownership, do so by using
> rational arguments and factual evidence, not bullshit conspiracy theories
> spun by One Nation wannabes!
>
> Hint as to the veracity of this particular conspiracy theory: Pauline
> herself mentioned it only a few weeks ago.
Liberty Exposure
Timeline pertaining to Port Arthur.
1975 In the aftermath of the Hilton Hotel bombing in Sydney in 1975,
Canberra and the States established the Standing Advisory Committee
on Commonwealth State Co-operation for Protection against Violence
(SAC-PAV). Involvement in these national and local exercises was to
prove invaluable as Tasmania Police set about managing the Port Arthur
Massacre. The responses were to work so well that there were times
when it all seemed like an exercise, despite the enormity of all that had
happened. (Suddenly One Sunday, page 99).
1979 December 18 The Australian Government enacts the Convention
on Discrimination against Women into Australian Law. Buried within this
innocuous seeming document is the call for general and complete
disarmament!
1987 August 9 On the evening of the 9th August 1987 19 year-old
Julian Knight hid in a small park in Hoddle Street, Clifton Hill and then
started shooting at the passing traffic. Knight had enlisted in the
Australian Army, and had received training in the use of firearms. At
Hoddle Street, he shot dead 7 people, and wounded another seventeen.
1987 December 8 On the afternoon of the 8th December 1987, Frank
Vitkovic shot 8 people dead and wounded a further 5 people.
He then went through a window on the 12th floor and plunged to his
death. Amazingly, Victorian Police Minister Race Mathews, and
Attorney General Jim Kennan were able to witness the event from a
building diagonally opposite shortly before the event commenced at
4.20 PM. Mr Mathews stated "I arrived to see Jim about 4 minutes
before the shooting started and we were in conference on the 21st
floor". How incredible that the two most pertinent Ministers just
happened to be together and in the right spot and at the right time!
1987 December In December 1987, after a specially called
Premier's meeting in Hobart, the New South Wales Labour Premier,
Mr. Barry Unsworth stated, "There will never be uniform gun laws in
Australia until there is a massacre in Tasmania." This quote is
extremely prophetic, as it was only after the Tasmanian massacre
in April, 1996 that the Federal government forced the States into
adopting laws prepared by bureaucrats from within the Federal
Attorney General's office.
1991 Strathfield Shopping Plaza, Sydney, 7 killed.
1993 Suicide of Maurice Bryant: Life has been hard for Carleen,
probably hardest of all when she realised that her son Martin
needed speech therapy as a child, and other remedial help later
which led to an invalid pension. As a mother she handled difficult
situations well enough but her husband Maurice found it much
harder, he was a devoted husband and father and a highly
organised man, but Carleen says "It was more difficult for him,
Martin was his son and fathers expect their sons to be normal."
Hard though Maurice tried over the years he slowly but surely
became depressed and "mentioned" suicide on a number of
occasions. Then without warning in 1993 Maurice took his own
life at the family farm at Copping, but long before his death had
already taken steps to minimise its impact on Carleen and their
children. Carleen was dreading all of the paperwork after his
death "because Maurice always looked after that', but was
astonished to find all of the documents she needed placed
in a single neat pile where she could easily find them. Even
more astonishing, months earlier Maurice had transferred
the Hydro account from their joint names to Carleen alone,
ensuring things would run automatically after he died.
1994 July 1 The Southern Tasmanian Mortuary Ambulance
first came to pass on 1 July 1994 when the Justice Dept
decided it needed a private contractor to remove bodies
from crime scenes.
The EMA Report explains about the Mortuary Vehicles...
His usual mortuary ambulance is an ex-Tasmanian Ambulance
Service Ford F-100 capable of carrying four bodies. Also
present was a Chevrolet truck to the chassis of which Mr Charlton
had attached a refrigerated covered compartment capable of
storing sixteen bodies. This vehicle had, in the past, been
regarded as an expensive aberration that would never have a
use.[EMA]
1995 November Roland Browne was the spokesman for the
Tasmanian branch of "The Coalition for Gun Control". In
November 1995, Browne warned not only Tasmanians, but
all Australians that if Tasmania did not enact tougher firearm
laws then there would be a massacre in Tasmania of massive
proportions.
1996 After the Dunblane massacre, Roland Browne
appeared on "A Current Affairs", and again all Australians were
warned that if the Tasmanian Government didn't implement
proper firearm laws, then a massacre of monumental
proportions would occur.
1996 May 5 The Sun Herald reported May 5 1996 that
ex-Premier of NSW, Barry Unsworth made this prediction in
1987 - Before Uniform Gun Laws become possible in all States
there will have to be a massacre in Tasmania.
1996 April 22-23 On 22 and 23 April 1996, five days prior to the
tragedy, an Aviation Seminar was held at the Police Academy.
The seminar considered Tasmania's resource capability to cope
with a domestic aircraft accident and identified the support
available from other states.
Other exercises were held to test anti terrorist arrangements.
...and managing an event with multiple deaths and casualties.[EMA]
1996 April 26 The final version of "Code Brown" was ready at
Royal Hobart Hospital
1996 April 28 0600H Martin Bryant had his alarm set for 6AM
1996 April 28 0800H Petra leaves Martin's house at 8AM.
1996 April 28 The Director of surgery, Dr Stephen Wilkinson,
had been in the nearby Repatriation Hospital that morning,
conducting an Early Management of Severe Trauma (EMST)
course for twenty-five doctors from all over Australia. The course,
presented by the Royal Australasian College of Surgeons in
conjunction with hospital specialists, aims at improving capacity
to respond to major emergencies, and one of the scenarios that
morning had been a multiple shooting. (Suddenly one Sunday
pages 93, 94, 95) What would have been the result had the
shooting at Port Arthur occurred half an hour later. The possibility
that most of the specialist doctors would have left Hobart by plane,
and would not have been available for the coming emergency.
1996 April 28 0947H The alarm at Bryant's house is activated
indicating he had left.
1996 April 28 The Bryant's Volvo passes through Cambridge....
1996 April 28 Craig Coombs CEO Port Arthur. "It just so
happened that 10 of my most senior staff were heading away
for a 2 day training seminar to Swansea, a seaside resort on
the State's east coast, about 2 hours from the site". [EMA]
1996 April 28 The local police were at the Saltwater River
area which is approximately 25 minutes travelling time from the
site of the carnage and they were immediately despatched. [EMA]
1996 April 28 1100H There were two interesting observations made
late in the morning and at about midday by two people who reside in
the area, one Mr Simmons, heard at about 11 a.m. two shots. What
Mr. Bugg failed to tell the court was that Mr Andrew Simmons was in
fact a close neighbour of the Martins, he also fails to tell the court that
Mr Simmons was a supervisor at the Port Arthur Historical Site, and
that on this particular morning he was required to attend a management
meeting at Swansea with the ten most senior staff of the management
of the Port Arthur Historical Site. The other little detail that Mr. Bugg
QC failed to inform the court was that Mr Simmons was expecting
his ride to arrive at 11.15 a.m. on that Sunday morning and so would
have been alert to any sound that might have indicated that his ride
was approaching, or the fact that Mr. Simmons may have been
outside his home when he heard the two shots.
1996 April 28 1200H Further down towards Port Arthur and near the
boat ramp a Mr Doug McCutcheon heard a series of rapidly fired shots
and his best estimate of the time of that was about twelve o'clock to
twelve thirty. He estimated that the calibre of the rifle used was larger
than .22! The final item Mr. Bugg failed to inform the court was that
Martin Bryant was somewhere between Forcett and Eaglehawk Neck
at the time of these two shots being fired.
1996 April 28 1145H At about 11.45 a.m. a Peninsula resident,
Mr Copping, drove past "Seascape" on the Arthur Highway. He had
known the Martins for a number of years, and when he looked towards
"The Seascape" building he observed a yellow Volvo sedan backed up
into the front door of the main home with the driver's door open.
There was a surfboard on the rack and he took particular notice of this
because being a person who had surfed in the area some many years
before he knew that the weather was not good for surfing and he recalled
that when he spoke to the police because he said he thought to himself
at the time that a lot of surfers had improved somewhat since his day of
surfing if they could afford to stay overnight when the weather was like
that.
He drove through past Port Arthur township and then returned at about
12.40 p.m., in other words he was driving back towards "The Seascape",
and as he did so he noticed the yellow Volvo being driven towards Port
Arthur about two hundred metres south of the general store at Port Arthur
itself.
1996 April 28 1230H An elderly couple call in to Seascape as they leave
Port Arthur. An agitated young man with long hair discourages from from
remaining.
1996 April 28 1300H Roger Larner speaks to the driver of the Volvo and
asks "Who is it?" They speak for 10 minutes, despite knowing Martin for
18 years, Mr Larner failed to recognise him!
1996 April 28 1310H At about 1310 he entered the historic site of Port
Arthur, paid his entrance fee at the toll booth and drove to the car park
where, despite directions to the contrary, he parked nearby to the Broad
Arrow Cafe adjacent to the water.[EMA]
?
If the Volvo passed the toll booth at 1310, why would it take 15 minutes to
park the car 100 metres away as inferred in the next time frame?
1996 April 28 1325H At about 1.25 p.m. the security manager at the site,
Mr. Ian Kingston, was directing people in the carpark when he saw "Bryant",
who indicated that he wanted to park his vehicle near the water's edge. Mr
Kingston directed him away from that area because it is normally reserved
for campervans and the carpark area was quite busy o that day.
"Bryant" became argumentative but drove off in his car and parked it near
the information centre. Mr Kingston attended other matters and then later
noticed that "Bryant" had moved his car back to the water's edge. He saw
"Bryant" alight from the car carrying a bag, a sport's type bag, a video
camera, and he then walked towards the Broad arrow café.
"Bryant" then walked in to the dining area of the café and placed his bag
on a table in the north-western corner of the café. That's being indicated
on the plan now, so he's walked through a good two thirds of the café area
towards the north-western corner. The table that he placed the sports bag
on was not occupied and he immediately took out the AR15 rifle which was
fitted with a thirty shot magazine, although the Crown case is that there
were
approximately twenty six live rounds of ammunition in the magazine at that
time.
1996 April 28 1327H Nobody inside the Broad Arrow Café was taking any
particular notice of the time. However the Tour Guides were. There were
three of them, and they were due to take a new tour out at precisely
1.30 p.m. One of the Tour guides was talking on the telephone to a friend,
when the shooting started. The exact time was 1.27 p.m. Another Tour
Guide was just looking out to check upon how many visitors were gathered
at the start off point, and the Tour Guide Manager was not yet getting
ready to start the tour rolling. All three of these persons were
clock-watchers. It is part of their profession, and they are very aware
of the time. If they stated that the shooting started at 1.27 p.m., then
that
point should be accepted as fact... it was ignored.
1996 April 28 Zero Hour-4minThe police report the arrival at the decoy
site of Saltwater River
1996 April 28 Zero Hour- Gunman eats lunch
1996 April 28 Zero Hour-30 seconds The gunman puts the Prince
sportsbag on a table, Mick Sargent watched and they made eye contact
for 15 seconds, when he looked next the man was looking towards an
Asian couple while he inzipped the bag.
1996 April 28 13.27 The first two shots rang out immediately killing
Mr Yee Ng with a shot to the upper neck, and Miss Sou Chung with a
shot to the head. Swivelling on the spot and firing from the right hip,
the gunman fired at Mr Michael Sargent who was wounded in the head
as he dived for the floor. He then killed Miss Kate Scott with a shot to
the head. The gunman continues through the Broad Arrow, next killing
Mr. Anthony Nightingale, who was seated by himself facing towards
Bryant, so in other words he was looking in a northerly direction.
From the evidence of one of the witnesses in the café who survived,
Mr. Nightingale stood up when the shooting started and called out "No,
no, not here", he was then shot, a single shot to the neck area causing
fatal injuries. Next was Mr Walter Bennet with a shot to the upper neck,
with the latter bullet passing straight through and hitting Mr Raymond
Sharpe in the head with fatal results. Then Mr Kevin Sharpe was killed
by a shot to the head and was also hit in the arm, with shrapnel and
bone fragments from the second intermediate strike on Mr Kevin
Sharpe then apparently wounding Mr Gary Broome, and possibly
John and Gaye Fidler.
Still firing from the hip the gunman swivelled and killed Mr Andrew Mills
and Mr Tony Kistan with single shots to the head, with shrapnel and
skull fragments from those shots apparently wounding Mrs Thelma
Walker, Mrs Pamela Law and Mrs Patricia Baker. Again the gunman
turned, shooting and wounding Mr Graham Colyer in the neck, before
swiveling and killing Mr Mervyn Howard with a shot to the head, next he
shot Mary Howard in the neck with non fatal effect and then despatched
Mrs Mary Elizabeth Howard at point blank range. The gunman turned
back, killing Miss Sarah Loughton with a head shot. Moving towards
the rear of the building the gunman shot Mr Robert Elliot in the head,
causing serious injuries and an additional round hit his left upper arm.
ELAPSED TIME 15 SECONDS......... Next the very professional
gunman moved towards the area of the souvenir shop and killed
Nicole Burgess with a shot to the head. Then Mrs Elizabeth Howard
through the chest and arm with fatal consequences. Swiveling around,
the gunman killed Mr Leslie Lever with a shot to the head, and killed
Mrs Gwenda Neader with another shot to the head.
Temporarily distracted, he fired back into the cafe area and wounded
Mr Peter Crosswell, turning again he shot Mr Jason Winter twice,
killing him with a shot to the head. On his way back to the souvenir
area the gunman wounded Mr Dennis Olson, then proceeded to the
kill-zone near the locked door where he killed Mr Ronald Jary, Pauline
Masters, and Mr Peter Nash, all of them with single shots to the head.
At this stage the gunman had killed twenty and wounded another twelve
with 29 rounds,he then stopped firing and changed magazines in a most
professional way. The magazine fitted to the AR15 held 30 rounds total,
so by changing magazines after firing only 29 shots the gunman ensured
that he still had a live round in the breech in case anyone moved,
enabling him to kill that person instantly if caught unawares.
1996 April 28 1332H Wendy's call to the police was logged later at
1.32 pm. then she went outside to look for cover in the bush behind the
buildings. This took at least another minute, giving a minimum total
elapsed time of four minutes and more likely five. As several other
colleagues present on the day also attest, the elapsed time was much
longer than the "official" 90 seconds
1996 April 28 1335H At 1.35 p.m. Ian Kingston the Security Officer at
Port Arthur rang in and reported that 7 people had been shot dead.
(Suddenly one Sunday page 97)
1996 April 28 after Cafe Upon leaving the Cafe the gunman fired 4
more shots in different directions to assist his safe departure.
Shots 34-83 to follow.......
1996 April 28 1357H The burning car is reported in the grounds of Seascape
1996 April 28 1400H Code Brown is activated ar Royal Hobart Hospital
1996 April 28 1719H At 1719 hours, the Tasmania Police contacted the
National Crisis Centre. That is the only information listed in the
Chronology
of Police communications. The apparent response comes at 2215 hours,
the last item listed in communications on the 28th April. It reads simply,
"2215 ASIO Tech Support despatched". What technical support did the
Tasmania Police require from ASIO that would have been despatched
at such a late hour?
1996 April 28 1830H An anonymous phone call to police suggests that
Martin Bryant could be the person holed up in Seascape.
1996 April 28 2215H ASIO Tech Support dispatched.[EMA]
1996 April 29 0747H At 0747 smoke and fire were noticed coming from
the top storey. The fire quickly took hold. [EMA]
1996 April 29 0821H A male person believed to be the offender emerged
from the building appearing to fire indiscriminately from a hand gun and his
clothing appeared to be on fire. He disappeared from view for several
seconds and then reappeared naked. [EMA]
1996 May In May 1996, the Deputy Prime Minister of Australia and the
leader of the national Party, Tim Fischer had a meeting with firearm
owners in Central Australia, where he said to them, "If we don't get it
right this time, then next time there is a massacre and there will be,
then they'll take all our guns off us."
1996 June 23 On the 23rd of June 1996 the Sunday Telegraph
published a story about a gun collector in Victoria who identified the
AR15 rifle used for the Port Arthur killings as one that he had handed
in to police during an amnesty in February 1993.
1996 September 30 Bryant kept to his story in the face of tremendous
pressure from police interrogators and psychiatrists to admit the enormity
of his alleged crimes. He continued to refuse to do so and at the formal
hearing on 30th September 1996 pleaded not guilty to all seventy two
charges.
1996 October Amazingly, the day before Martin Bryant was due to be
sentenced a never before seen amateur video of "Bryant" leaving the
cafe was shown on television.
1996 November 22 Mr Justice Cox when passing sentence "Though he
has ultimately pleaded guilty.[EMA]
1998 March 5 September On 5th March 1998 the case against Terry
Hill was suddenly discontinued.
1999 June 9 Damian Bugg QC is to be promoted with an appointment
to Commonwealth Director of Public Prosecutions from the 2cd of
August 1999.
1999 July 23 Foreign Affairs Minister Alexander Downer announced
a policy framework to "arrest the proliferation of small arms" on National,
Regional, and International levels. This launch clearly outlines the
International push for gun control that clearly precipitated the Port
Arthur disarmament legislation!
1999 September Displayed on the website for the Southern
Tasmanian Mortuary Service. Vehicle for Sale. Yellow Chevrolet
350 V8 truck with refrigerated body, hold 22, this vehicle was primarily
used as the disaster vehicle in the Port Arthur Massacre.
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>
>
Owen McShane
>
> On Thu, 15 Mar 2001 22:42:40 +1300, Owen McShane
> <omcs...@wk.planet.gen.nz> wrote:
>
> snip---
>
> >I quite like politicians - and I know many of them. It's governments I
> >don't like.
>
> >Most New Zealanders hate politicians and love government.
>
> There's an assumption for you.
I haven't tested it formally. But if you listen to talkback and read
letter to the editor and listen to radio interviews you will hear
hundreds of people railing on about how rotten and crooked and lazy all
politicians are. Indeed formal polls show that politicians score rock
bottom in the "admirable" stakes.
But if the host or interviewer then says to the politician hater "what
should we do then?" the answer always begins "The government should
......"
> >I find this
> >position a paradox whereas my own is quite understandable.
>
> Now you're just trying to be clever.
Not it is a paradox to hate politicians and love government but nothing
paradoxial about finding most politicians likeable as people but not
liking the operation of their instituions. One can like rugby players
one meets while not liking the game of rugby.
> Brian Dooley
>
> Wellington New Zealand
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