The Catholic Church is not Christian!
Leonard Abbott
In the late 1300s John Wycilf translated the scriptures from the Latin
Vulgate. Some 40 odd years after his death, the Catholic religion dug up
his bones and burned them calling him an arch-heretick. In the 1500's
William Tyndale sought to translate the Bible into the language of the
common people, English.
He could not gain approval from the Catholic religon so he worked as an
outlaw on the run in Europe, translating the Bible. He was eventually
captured, condemned and executed in 1536. It is because of people like
these men,
Tyndale and Wycliffe, that we have the scriptures today. If the Catholic
religion had its way, we'd still be in ignorance about the Bible and
enslaved to the pope. Time fails me here to tell of other marytrs like
John Hus, John Rogers, etc. who were killed by popish persons.
I'll list the catholic tradition first and then what the Bible has to
say about the matter.
* * * *
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Call priests father, e.g., Father McKinley.
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -
Matthew 23:9 And call no man your father upon the earth: for one is your
Father, which is in heaven.
* * * *
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Forbidding the priesthood to marry.
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS -
1) It is devilish to forbid God's people to marry when He has given
marriage to be received with thanksgiving.
1 Timothy
4:1 Now the Spirit speaketh expressly, that in the latter times some
shall depart from the faith, giving heed to seducing spirits, and
doctrines of devils;
4:2 Speaking lies in hypocrisy; having their conscience seared with a
hot iron;
4:3 Forbidding to marry, and commanding to abstain from meats, which God
hath created to be received with thanksgiving of them which believe and
know the truth.
2) Peter was married (remember the pope is supposedly continuing the
apostolic line through Peter).
Matthew
8:14 And when Jesus was come into Peter's house, he saw his wife's
mother laid, and sick of a fever.
Mark
1:30 But Simon's wife's mother lay sick of a fever, and anon they tell
him of her.
Luke
4:38 And he arose out of the synagogue, and entered into Simon's house.
And Simon's wife's mother was taken with a great fever; and they
besought him for her.
3) Paul, a great apostle, remained single; however he made it very clear
that he could marry if he wanted to.
1 Corinthians
9:5 Have we not power to lead about a sister, a wife, as well as other
apostles, and as the brethren of the Lord, and Cephas?
* * * *
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary never had other children after the Lord Jesus.
A perpetual virgin.
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Mary and Joseph indeed had children. They were the
Lord's half brothers and sisters for their father was Joseph and mother
was Mary.
Matthew
13:55 Is not this the carpenter's son? is not his mother called Mary?
and his brethren, James, and Joses, and Simon, and Judas?
13:56 And his sisters, are they not all with us? Whence then hath this
man all these things?
Mark
6:3 Is not this the carpenter, the son of Mary, the brother of James,
and Joses, and of Juda, and Simon? and are not his sisters here with us?
And they were offended at him.
* * * *
CATHOLIC TRADITION - Mary is the queen of heaven.
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS - Worshipping the queen of heaven (which is not the
Mary of the Bible) is worshipping another god and it provokes the Lord
to anger.
Jeremiah
7:17 Seest thou not what they do in the cities of Judah and in the
streets of Jerusalem?
7:18 The children gather wood, and the fathers kindle the fire, and the
women knead their dough, to make cakes to the queen of heaven, and to
pour out drink offerings unto other gods, that they may provoke me to
anger.
7:19 Do they provoke me to anger? saith the LORD: do they not provoke
themselves to the confusion of their own faces?
* * * *
Lee
"Leonard Abbott" <leonard...@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:6610-4A3E...@storefull-3111.bay.webtv.net...
> The Catholic Church is not Christian!
I would bet that most Catholics believe they are Christians and would be
most upset if anyone suggested that they were not, surely with religious
matters belief is sufficient?
Mike Jones
The HRCC is about as xtian as the Shiites are Mohamedans.
IOW, they exist to exploit, not to follow.
Pity its all just vacuous mythology really. ;\
--
*===( http://www.400monkeys.com/God/
*===( http://principiadiscordia.com/
*===( http://www.slackware.com/
Lee
"Mike Jones" <N...@Arizona.Bay> wrote in message
news:pan.2009.06...@Arizona.Bay...
The Isis virgin birth / first son sacrifice story worked well enough for the
Egyptians a few millennia ago but it is surprising people still believe in
the remnants of such primitive mumbo jumbo.
Things are progressing slowly however, at least modern worshippers don't
mummify popes and other leader for the after life nowadays hoping they will
come back to life sometime in the future, perhaps the rapture thing is a
more symbolic replacement for this myth.
Mike Jones
One of the things I get from the fact this (and all the variations on the
theme) mumbo-jumbo is still regarded as anything but an amusing lesson
from ancient history is that humans (a significant number of them anyhow)
tend to /want/ to live in a state where something else will direct their
lives /for them/, and are happy to /adopt/ an imitation of that vague
term "belief" in something that is so insane it couldn't possibly be
disproved to an absolute (tabloid front page level) degree.
Thats the great "beauty" of the whole religion thing for many I'm sure,
that, no matter how loony-tunes it is (the more loony the better?), it
can stand on the ignorance and indulgence of it's "club members" against
any logic or reason, and thats the key to a successful religion, a solid
grounding in cyclic but well romanticised illogic.
This wouldn't be so bad if those who indulge simply did that and left the
rest of us alone, but they do so like to force that insanity on everyone
else, just in case some bright spark lands the killer logic on them one
sad (for them) day.
Then there are all those who benefit from the industries (and industries
they surely are) that spring up around such madness.
And humans still claim to be an intelligent species. Sigh!
;)
Lee
Religion reminds me in a way of the games young kids make up in which
something like a simple stick can be a laser gun or a magic wand and the
rules get increasingly complex but do not need to be logical, the difference
being that unlike believers children usually grow out of such fantasies and
into more sophisticated behaviour.
Mike Jones
> Religion reminds me in a way of the games young kids make up in which
> something like a simple stick can be a laser gun or a magic wand and the
> rules get increasingly complex but do not need to be logical, the
> difference being that unlike believers children usually grow out of such
> fantasies and into more sophisticated behaviour.
One is a natural "playing with", an exploration of the mind and
perception, the other is a deliberate systemic exploitation of it's
vunerabilities. One could consider religion to be a form of biological-
malware.
Open Source thinking seems to be a more robust option. ;)
Lee
"Mike Jones" <N...@Arizona.Bay> wrote in message
That is a good way of describing where pop ups do the same job as rituals.
Mike Jones
>> One is a natural "playing with", an exploration of the mind and
>> perception, the other is a deliberate systemic exploitation of it's
>> vunerabilities. One could consider religion to be a form of biological-
>> malware.
>
>
> That is a good way of describing where pop ups do the same job as
> rituals.
Heh! Good image. :)