> "The Honest One" wrote: > > "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message > > news:QqOdnXweVuRRY9nXnZ2dnUVZ8kZi4p2d@bt.com... > >> Neil Barker wrote: > >>> On Jun 26, 7:01 pm, james <ja...@marage.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >>>> I once had lunch with Michael Jackson. It sounds improbable but it > > was > >>>> in that big hotel on the front at Eastbourne. The lunch was hosted > > by > >>>> Paul Hamlyn, the owner and chairman of Octopus Books. He had > > launched a > >>>> new paperback imprint, Mandarin, and used two titles for the > > launch -- a > >>>> book of mine called 'Mirage' -- about Mossad plans to steal Mirage > > 5 > >>>> drawings from Switzerland following de Gaulle's embargo on the > > supply of > >>>> the fighters as a result of the Six Day War. The other title was > >>>> 'Moonwalk' by Michael Jackson.
> >>>> Mandarin sent a car to collect me, and a Bristow helicopter to > > collect > >>>> Michael Jackson from Paris where he was doing a song and dance > > show. The > >>>> helicopter's arrival and departure made an awful mess of the > > hotel's > >>>> manicured and Philishaved gardens on the front.
> >>>> I had a splendid lunch. Michael Jackson ate a lettuce leaf although > > he > >>>> did eventually weaken and tried a spoonful of my trifle. Just the > > one > >>>> spoonful.
> >>>> Michael Jackson was, to be charitable, a little weird. It was a > >>>> delicious trifle. Too young to die, though, but not as young as > > Douglas > >>>> Adams. To lose one acquaintance early is unfortunate, to lose two > > is > >>>> carelessness.
> >>>> -- > >>>> James Follett > >>> You piece of filth. You just can't pass up an opportunity to make > >>> yourself look as though you know the rich and famous, even at the > >>> expense of someone's death.
> >>> Why do you bother to post here? No-one reads your pathetic drivel > >>> since you contributed to the demise of demon.local.
> >>> Sad wanker.
> >>> --
> >>> Neil Barker > >> You read it.
> >> --
> >> Tony Dragon
> > "Strange markings in the sand" > > by - Peter Dragon
> The View from the Cliff > by Eileen Dover > -- > Tony Dragon
> Tony Dragon wrote: > > Neil Barker wrote: > >> On Jun 26, 7:01 pm, james <ja...@marage.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >>> I once had lunch with Michael Jackson. It sounds improbable but it was > >>> in that big hotel on the front at Eastbourne. The lunch was hosted by > >>> Paul Hamlyn, the owner and chairman of Octopus Books. He had launched a > >>> new paperback imprint, Mandarin, and used two titles for the launch -- a > >>> book of mine called 'Mirage' -- about Mossad plans to steal Mirage 5 > >>> drawings from Switzerland following de Gaulle's embargo on the supply of > >>> the fighters as a result of the Six Day War. The other title was > >>> 'Moonwalk' by Michael Jackson.
> >>> Mandarin sent a car to collect me, and a Bristow helicopter to collect > >>> Michael Jackson from Paris where he was doing a song and dance show. The > >>> helicopter's arrival and departure made an awful mess of the hotel's > >>> manicured and Philishaved gardens on the front.
> >>> I had a splendid lunch. Michael Jackson ate a lettuce leaf although he > >>> did eventually weaken and tried a spoonful of my trifle. Just the one > >>> spoonful.
> >>> Michael Jackson was, to be charitable, a little weird. It was a > >>> delicious trifle. Too young to die, though, but not as young as Douglas > >>> Adams. To lose one acquaintance early is unfortunate, to lose two is > >>> carelessness.
> >>> -- > >>> James Follett
> >> You piece of filth. You just can't pass up an opportunity to make > >> yourself look as though you know the rich and famous, even at the > >> expense of someone's death.
> >> Why do you bother to post here? No-one reads your pathetic drivel > >> since you contributed to the demise of demon.local.
> >> Sad wanker.
> >> --
> >> Neil Barker
> > You read it.
> Take this to email. > -- > ah
Print this off and wad it up and stuff it up your twat, "ah" !! -- Your Pal, HJ
"The Honest One" wrote: > "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message > news:f4ednfFOnp_ZoNjXnZ2dnUVZ8mpi4p2d@bt.com... >> "The Honest One" wrote: >>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>> news:QqOdnXweVuRRY9nXnZ2dnUVZ8kZi4p2d@bt.com... >>>> Neil Barker wrote: >>>>> On Jun 26, 7:01 pm, james <ja...@marage.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>> I once had lunch with Michael Jackson. It sounds improbable but > it >>> was >>>>>> in that big hotel on the front at Eastbourne. The lunch was > hosted >>> by >>>>>> Paul Hamlyn, the owner and chairman of Octopus Books. He had >>> launched a >>>>>> new paperback imprint, Mandarin, and used two titles for the >>> launch -- a >>>>>> book of mine called 'Mirage' -- about Mossad plans to steal > Mirage >>> 5 >>>>>> drawings from Switzerland following de Gaulle's embargo on the >>> supply of >>>>>> the fighters as a result of the Six Day War. The other title was >>>>>> 'Moonwalk' by Michael Jackson.
>>>>>> Mandarin sent a car to collect me, and a Bristow helicopter to >>> collect >>>>>> Michael Jackson from Paris where he was doing a song and dance >>> show. The >>>>>> helicopter's arrival and departure made an awful mess of the >>> hotel's >>>>>> manicured and Philishaved gardens on the front.
>>>>>> I had a splendid lunch. Michael Jackson ate a lettuce leaf > although >>> he >>>>>> did eventually weaken and tried a spoonful of my trifle. Just the >>> one >>>>>> spoonful.
>>>>>> Michael Jackson was, to be charitable, a little weird. It was a >>>>>> delicious trifle. Too young to die, though, but not as young as >>> Douglas >>>>>> Adams. To lose one acquaintance early is unfortunate, to lose two >>> is >>>>>> carelessness.
>>>>>> -- >>>>>> James Follett >>>>> You piece of filth. You just can't pass up an opportunity to make >>>>> yourself look as though you know the rich and famous, even at the >>>>> expense of someone's death.
>>>>> Why do you bother to post here? No-one reads your pathetic drivel >>>>> since you contributed to the demise of demon.local.
>>>>> Sad wanker.
>>>>> --
>>>>> Neil Barker >>>> You read it.
>>>> --
>>>> Tony Dragon >>> "Strange markings in the sand" >>> by - Peter Dragon
>> The View from the Cliff >> by Eileen Dover >> -- >> Tony Dragon
james wrote: > Bless my soul -- a flaktoid. Close but no cheroot. Not even a whiff of > one.
> [...]
> I bet you regret your ill-judged little flaktoid now!
No, I don't think so. A residue of doubt remains because I don't know what a flaktoid is.
-- Which of the seven heavens / Was responsible her smile / Wouldn't be sure but attested / That, whoever it was, a god / Worth kneeling-to for a while / Had tabernacled and rested.
On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 09:50:40 +0100, Gareth wrote: > It makes one wonder why he paid off the kid $20million though.
Goodness knows. Maybe just his way of saying sorry, maybe to stop any further actions by the parents who didn't come across (to me) as very nice people. He didn't seem able to think in hundreds or thousands, only in millions.
He didn't have a normal childhood and I think that was responsible for a lot, if not all, his actions and reactions as an adult. He seems to have wanted all the things a normal child had and tried to recapture it all later. He was seriously messed up but I don't think that was of his doing. Everything seems to have escalated out of control, possibly because he didn't have anyone around him who knew how to say "no" to him in a way he could accept and comply with.
There was a comment in one news article that he was living a billionaire's lifestyle on a millionaire's income.
> There was a comment in one news article that he was living a > billionaire's lifestyle on a millionaire's income.
> A sad end for a talented person.
I read a good remark today. If just a fraction of the praise and alleged love being showered on him in death had been given to him while alive he might just still be here. Unfortunately that applies too often and not just to famous people :-( -- Sandra People will forget what you said. People will forget what you did, but People will never forget how you made them feel.
>> There was a comment in one news article that he was living a >> billionaire's lifestyle on a millionaire's income.
>> A sad end for a talented person.
> I read a good remark today. If just a fraction of the praise and alleged > love being showered on him in death had been given to him while alive he > might just still be here. Unfortunately that applies too often and not > just to famous people :-( > -- > Sandra
_______________________
Thanks Sandra for your common sense & non judgmental attitude. We sit here & judge folks without knowing squat. Certainly we wouldn't want false tales spread about our families & especially ourselves. You are a gem. A diamond who sparkles with your posts.
> Tony Dragon wrote: >> Neil Barker wrote: >>> On Jun 26, 7:01 pm, james <ja...@marage.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>> I once had lunch with Michael Jackson. It sounds improbable but it was >>>> in that big hotel on the front at Eastbourne. The lunch was hosted by >>>> Paul Hamlyn, the owner and chairman of Octopus Books. He had launched a >>>> new paperback imprint, Mandarin, and used two titles for the launch -- >>>> a >>>> book of mine called 'Mirage' -- about Mossad plans to steal Mirage 5 >>>> drawings from Switzerland following de Gaulle's embargo on the supply >>>> of >>>> the fighters as a result of the Six Day War. The other title was >>>> 'Moonwalk' by Michael Jackson.
>>>> Mandarin sent a car to collect me, and a Bristow helicopter to collect >>>> Michael Jackson from Paris where he was doing a song and dance show. >>>> The >>>> helicopter's arrival and departure made an awful mess of the hotel's >>>> manicured and Philishaved gardens on the front.
>>>> I had a splendid lunch. Michael Jackson ate a lettuce leaf although he >>>> did eventually weaken and tried a spoonful of my trifle. Just the one >>>> spoonful.
>>>> Michael Jackson was, to be charitable, a little weird. It was a >>>> delicious trifle. Too young to die, though, but not as young as Douglas >>>> Adams. To lose one acquaintance early is unfortunate, to lose two is >>>> carelessness.
>>>> -- >>>> James Follett
>>> You piece of filth. You just can't pass up an opportunity to make >>> yourself look as though you know the rich and famous, even at the >>> expense of someone's death.
>>> Why do you bother to post here? No-one reads your pathetic drivel >>> since you contributed to the demise of demon.local.
On Sat, 27 Jun 2009 11:40:39 +0100, Rabbit wrote: > I read a good remark today. If just a fraction of the praise and alleged > love being showered on him in death had been given to him while alive he > might just still be here. Unfortunately that applies too often and not just > to famous people :-(
Very true.
It is too late when a person's dead. They *do* need to be told when they are alive. Everyone needs to feel valued.
> "The Honest One" wrote: > > "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message > > news:f4ednfFOnp_ZoNjXnZ2dnUVZ8mpi4p2d@bt.com... > >> "The Honest One" wrote: > >>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message > >>> news:QqOdnXweVuRRY9nXnZ2dnUVZ8kZi4p2d@bt.com... > >>>> Neil Barker wrote: > >>>>> On Jun 26, 7:01 pm, james <ja...@marage.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >>>>>> I once had lunch with Michael Jackson. It sounds improbable but > > it > >>> was > >>>>>> in that big hotel on the front at Eastbourne. The lunch was > > hosted > >>> by > >>>>>> Paul Hamlyn, the owner and chairman of Octopus Books. He had > >>> launched a > >>>>>> new paperback imprint, Mandarin, and used two titles for the > >>> launch -- a > >>>>>> book of mine called 'Mirage' -- about Mossad plans to steal > > Mirage > >>> 5 > >>>>>> drawings from Switzerland following de Gaulle's embargo on the > >>> supply of > >>>>>> the fighters as a result of the Six Day War. The other title was > >>>>>> 'Moonwalk' by Michael Jackson.
> >>>>>> Mandarin sent a car to collect me, and a Bristow helicopter to > >>> collect > >>>>>> Michael Jackson from Paris where he was doing a song and dance > >>> show. The > >>>>>> helicopter's arrival and departure made an awful mess of the > >>> hotel's > >>>>>> manicured and Philishaved gardens on the front.
> >>>>>> I had a splendid lunch. Michael Jackson ate a lettuce leaf > > although > >>> he > >>>>>> did eventually weaken and tried a spoonful of my trifle. Just the > >>> one > >>>>>> spoonful.
> >>>>>> Michael Jackson was, to be charitable, a little weird. It was a > >>>>>> delicious trifle. Too young to die, though, but not as young as > >>> Douglas > >>>>>> Adams. To lose one acquaintance early is unfortunate, to lose two > >>> is > >>>>>> carelessness.
> >>>>>> -- > >>>>>> James Follett > >>>>> You piece of filth. You just can't pass up an opportunity to make > >>>>> yourself look as though you know the rich and famous, even at the > >>>>> expense of someone's death.
> >>>>> Why do you bother to post here? No-one reads your pathetic drivel > >>>>> since you contributed to the demise of demon.local.
> >>>>> Sad wanker.
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Neil Barker > >>>> You read it.
> >>>> --
> >>>> Tony Dragon > >>> "Strange markings in the sand" > >>> by - Peter Dragon
> >> The View from the Cliff > >> by Eileen Dover > >> -- > >> Tony Dragon
> > "Tiger's revenge" > > by - Claude Balls
> "Somebody at the Door" > by Isabel Ringing > -- > Tony Dragon
"Forty yards to the outhouse" by - Willy Makeet & illustrated by Betty Donte
"The Honest One" wrote: > "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message > news:hJKdnfG6m-eES9jXnZ2dnUVZ8hpi4p2d@bt.com... >> "The Honest One" wrote: >>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>> news:f4ednfFOnp_ZoNjXnZ2dnUVZ8mpi4p2d@bt.com... >>>> "The Honest One" wrote: >>>>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:QqOdnXweVuRRY9nXnZ2dnUVZ8kZi4p2d@bt.com... >>>>>> Neil Barker wrote: >>>>>>> On Jun 26, 7:01 pm, james <ja...@marage.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>> I once had lunch with Michael Jackson. It sounds improbable but >>> it >>>>> was >>>>>>>> in that big hotel on the front at Eastbourne. The lunch was >>> hosted >>>>> by >>>>>>>> Paul Hamlyn, the owner and chairman of Octopus Books. He had >>>>> launched a >>>>>>>> new paperback imprint, Mandarin, and used two titles for the >>>>> launch -- a >>>>>>>> book of mine called 'Mirage' -- about Mossad plans to steal >>> Mirage >>>>> 5 >>>>>>>> drawings from Switzerland following de Gaulle's embargo on the >>>>> supply of >>>>>>>> the fighters as a result of the Six Day War. The other title > was >>>>>>>> 'Moonwalk' by Michael Jackson.
>>>>>>>> Mandarin sent a car to collect me, and a Bristow helicopter to >>>>> collect >>>>>>>> Michael Jackson from Paris where he was doing a song and dance >>>>> show. The >>>>>>>> helicopter's arrival and departure made an awful mess of the >>>>> hotel's >>>>>>>> manicured and Philishaved gardens on the front.
>>>>>>>> I had a splendid lunch. Michael Jackson ate a lettuce leaf >>> although >>>>> he >>>>>>>> did eventually weaken and tried a spoonful of my trifle. Just > the >>>>> one >>>>>>>> spoonful.
>>>>>>>> Michael Jackson was, to be charitable, a little weird. It was a >>>>>>>> delicious trifle. Too young to die, though, but not as young as >>>>> Douglas >>>>>>>> Adams. To lose one acquaintance early is unfortunate, to lose > two >>>>> is >>>>>>>> carelessness.
>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> James Follett >>>>>>> You piece of filth. You just can't pass up an opportunity to > make >>>>>>> yourself look as though you know the rich and famous, even at > the >>>>>>> expense of someone's death.
>>>>>>> Why do you bother to post here? No-one reads your pathetic > drivel >>>>>>> since you contributed to the demise of demon.local.
>>>>>>> Sad wanker.
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Neil Barker >>>>>> You read it.
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Tony Dragon >>>>> "Strange markings in the sand" >>>>> by - Peter Dragon
>>>> The View from the Cliff >>>> by Eileen Dover >>>> -- >>>> Tony Dragon >>> "Tiger's revenge" >>> by - Claude Balls
>> "Somebody at the Door" >> by Isabel Ringing >> -- >> Tony Dragon
> "Forty yards to the outhouse" > by - Willy Makeet & illustrated by Betty Donte
> "The Honest One" wrote: > > "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message > > news:hJKdnfG6m-eES9jXnZ2dnUVZ8hpi4p2d@bt.com... > >> "The Honest One" wrote: > >>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message > >>> news:f4ednfFOnp_ZoNjXnZ2dnUVZ8mpi4p2d@bt.com... > >>>> "The Honest One" wrote: > >>>>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message > >>>>> news:QqOdnXweVuRRY9nXnZ2dnUVZ8kZi4p2d@bt.com... > >>>>>> Neil Barker wrote: > >>>>>>> On Jun 26, 7:01 pm, james <ja...@marage.demon.co.uk> wrote: > >>>>>>>> I once had lunch with Michael Jackson. It sounds improbable but > >>> it > >>>>> was > >>>>>>>> in that big hotel on the front at Eastbourne. The lunch was > >>> hosted > >>>>> by > >>>>>>>> Paul Hamlyn, the owner and chairman of Octopus Books. He had > >>>>> launched a > >>>>>>>> new paperback imprint, Mandarin, and used two titles for the > >>>>> launch -- a > >>>>>>>> book of mine called 'Mirage' -- about Mossad plans to steal > >>> Mirage > >>>>> 5 > >>>>>>>> drawings from Switzerland following de Gaulle's embargo on the > >>>>> supply of > >>>>>>>> the fighters as a result of the Six Day War. The other title > > was > >>>>>>>> 'Moonwalk' by Michael Jackson.
> >>>>>>>> Mandarin sent a car to collect me, and a Bristow helicopter to > >>>>> collect > >>>>>>>> Michael Jackson from Paris where he was doing a song and dance > >>>>> show. The > >>>>>>>> helicopter's arrival and departure made an awful mess of the > >>>>> hotel's > >>>>>>>> manicured and Philishaved gardens on the front.
> >>>>>>>> I had a splendid lunch. Michael Jackson ate a lettuce leaf > >>> although > >>>>> he > >>>>>>>> did eventually weaken and tried a spoonful of my trifle. Just > > the > >>>>> one > >>>>>>>> spoonful.
> >>>>>>>> Michael Jackson was, to be charitable, a little weird. It was a > >>>>>>>> delicious trifle. Too young to die, though, but not as young as > >>>>> Douglas > >>>>>>>> Adams. To lose one acquaintance early is unfortunate, to lose > > two > >>>>> is > >>>>>>>> carelessness.
> >>>>>>>> -- > >>>>>>>> James Follett > >>>>>>> You piece of filth. You just can't pass up an opportunity to > > make > >>>>>>> yourself look as though you know the rich and famous, even at > > the > >>>>>>> expense of someone's death.
> >>>>>>> Why do you bother to post here? No-one reads your pathetic > > drivel > >>>>>>> since you contributed to the demise of demon.local.
> >>>>>>> Sad wanker.
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Neil Barker > >>>>>> You read it.
> >>>>>> --
> >>>>>> Tony Dragon > >>>>> "Strange markings in the sand" > >>>>> by - Peter Dragon
> >>>> The View from the Cliff > >>>> by Eileen Dover > >>>> -- > >>>> Tony Dragon > >>> "Tiger's revenge" > >>> by - Claude Balls
> >> "Somebody at the Door" > >> by Isabel Ringing > >> -- > >> Tony Dragon
> > "Forty yards to the outhouse" > > by - Willy Makeet & illustrated by Betty Donte
> ire ird & $ir Vivor wrote in message : > >> I didn't say it did and I've never accused him of being so.
> > I didn't say you had and I didn't say you had.
> It makes one wonder why he paid off the kid $20million though.
To buy the silence of people more interested in nastiness than truth, perhaps?
-- Which of the seven heavens / Was responsible her smile / Wouldn't be sure but attested / That, whoever it was, a god / Worth kneeling-to for a while / Had tabernacled and rested.
In message <4A45EF74.D6933...@tesco.net>, Frederick Williams <frederick.willia...@tesco.net> writes
>james wrote:
>> Bless my soul -- a flaktoid. Close but no cheroot. Not even a whiff of >> one.
>> [...]
>> I bet you regret your ill-judged little flaktoid now!
>No, I don't think so. A residue of doubt remains because I don't know >what a flaktoid is.
My silly invented jargon because the correct Group Dynamics term, 'presumptive invalidation', is such a cumbersome mouthful. My term also fits the underlying definition of an 'unsubstantiated noise uttered for the sake of making a noise'.
In Group Dynamics the causal effects are quite well-known and documented. Group member A makes a statement the contents of which serious undermine member B's self-esteem or self-confidence to such a degree that B feels impelled to make a comment to attempt to undermine A's statement. That's invalidation.
I first became aware of it when I overheard a conversation between two women. Woman A and Woman B. Woman A was incensed by the comments of the protagonist whom she was reporting. She peppered her commentary with seemingly endless and indignant: 'then she turned round and said...' These went on at some length. Woman A wasn't implying that the unknown person was spinning like a top, rather she was seeking to prove to Woman B the uselessness of the unknown person's comments or statements because the unknown person's views or ethos, were a direct challenge to Woman A's confidence or self-esteem.
She was using invalidation. Had she used spurious or unfounded grounds as a basis for her attack then she would've been using presumptive invalidation. Attributive invalidation is much the same.
If you dispute or don't agree with Group Dynamics, don't worry because you're not alone. The discipline is as thoroughly detested as much as existentialism. Trouble is that it's had so many successes with English security services in defining the evolution of groups that treasury have sat up and taken a lot of notice. Institutes and behavioural research outfits have copped almost unlimited funding.
Me -- I use what little I understand of Group Dynamics to help me understand a modicum of human behaviour. Group Dynamics was a damned useful tool in another life when I used to write political speeches. The Usenet is a rich hunting ground for serious students.
It's interesting to note that at the last check there was wasn't one Usenet newsgroup devoted to existentialism and group dynamics. I don't suppose the web has much to say on the subjects either, although I've several books. J P Satre wrote a couple of words. Unfortunately I didn't understand either of them.
> In message <4A45EF74.D6933...@tesco.net>, Frederick Williams > <frederick.willia...@tesco.net> writes >>james wrote:
>>> Bless my soul -- a flaktoid. Close but no cheroot. Not even a whiff of >>> one.
>>> [...]
>>> I bet you regret your ill-judged little flaktoid now!
>>No, I don't think so. A residue of doubt remains because I don't know >>what a flaktoid is.
> My silly invented jargon because the correct Group Dynamics term, > 'presumptive invalidation', is such a cumbersome mouthful. My term also > fits the underlying definition of an 'unsubstantiated noise uttered for > the sake of making a noise'.
> In Group Dynamics the causal effects are quite well-known and documented. > Group member A makes a statement the contents of which serious undermine > member B's self-esteem or self-confidence to such a degree that B feels > impelled to make a comment to attempt to undermine A's statement. That's > invalidation.
> I first became aware of it when I overheard a conversation between two > women. Woman A and Woman B. Woman A was incensed by the comments of the > protagonist whom she was reporting. She peppered her commentary with > seemingly endless and indignant: 'then she turned round and said...' These > went on at some length. Woman A wasn't implying that the unknown person > was spinning like a top, rather she was seeking to prove to Woman B the > uselessness of the unknown person's comments or statements because the > unknown person's views or ethos, were a direct challenge to Woman A's > confidence or self-esteem.
> She was using invalidation. Had she used spurious or unfounded grounds as > a basis for her attack then she would've been using presumptive > invalidation. Attributive invalidation is much the same.
> If you dispute or don't agree with Group Dynamics, don't worry because > you're not alone. The discipline is as thoroughly detested as much as > existentialism. Trouble is that it's had so many successes with English > security services in defining the evolution of groups that treasury have > sat up and taken a lot of notice. Institutes and behavioural research > outfits have copped almost unlimited funding.
> Me -- I use what little I understand of Group Dynamics to help me > understand a modicum of human behaviour. Group Dynamics was a damned > useful tool in another life when I used to write political speeches. The > Usenet is a rich hunting ground for serious students.
> It's interesting to note that at the last check there was wasn't one > Usenet newsgroup devoted to existentialism and group dynamics. > I don't suppose the web has much to say on the subjects either, although > I've several books. J P Satre wrote a couple of words. Unfortunately I > didn't understand either of them.
> -- > James Follett.
Why does Mr. James Follett stir up one part of the population against another? Anger? Fear? Stupidity? Some deep pea-brained urging of his soul? The answer cannot easily be found, but it is my intent to put inexorable pressure on him to be a bit more careful about what he says and does. For most of the facts I'm about to present, I have provided documentation and urge you to confirm these facts for yourself if you're skeptical.
Everybody knows that Follett's views are so exact in their scheme, so comprehensive in their scope, that the most quixotic chiselers you'll ever see have adopted and embraced them verbatim ac litteratim, but you should consider that Follett attributes the most distorted, bizarre, and ludicrous "meanings" to ordinary personality characteristics. For example, if you're shy, he calls you "fearful and withdrawn". If, instead, you're the outgoing and active type, Follett says you're "acting out due to trauma". Why does he say such things? The best answer comes from Follett himself. That is, if you pay attention to his dangerous demands you'll indisputably notice that Follett really struck a nerve with me when he said that going through the motions of working is the same as working. That lie is a painful reminder that it may seem difficult at first to make an impartial and well-informed evaluation of the advantages and disadvantages of Follett's communiqu�s. It is. But one of Follett's most loyal zealots is known to have remarked, "Follett possesses infinite wisdom." And there you have it: a direct quote from a primary source. The significance of that quote is that by allowing Follett to send children to die as martyrs for causes that he is unwilling to die for himself, we are allowing him to play puppet master.
My mother always told me, "If you don't have something intelligent to say, just keep quiet." Apparently, Follett's mother never told him that. Follett's "I'm right and you're wrong" attitude is oppressive because it leaves no room for compromise. Follett's representatives have been staggering around like punch-drunk fighters hit too many times-stunned, confused, betrayed, and trying desperately to rationalize Follett's maladroit apologues. It is doubtlessly not a pretty sight. Follett wants to promulgate partisan prejudice against others. Who does he think he is? I mean, the reason he wants to transform our society into a headstrong war machine is that he's completely depraved. If you believe you have another explanation for his lewd behavior, then please write and tell me about it.
It would be great if we could develop an alternative community, a cohesive and comprehensive underground with a charter to make Follett answer for his wrongdoings. Still, if we take a step, just a step, towards addressing the issue of Bulverism, then maybe we can open people's eyes (including our own) to a vision of how to remove the misunderstanding that Follett has created in the minds of myriad people throughout the world. His hypnopompic insights are based on hate. Hate, frotteurism, and an intolerance of another viewpoint, another way of life.
As I noted at the beginning of this letter, while Follett and other anti-democratic paper-pushers sometimes differ on the details and scale of their upcoming campaigns of terror they never fail to agree on the basic principle and substance. Hence, it is imperative that you understand that the point is that if everyone spent just five minutes a day thinking about ways to solve the problems of wowserism, irreligionism, economic inequality, and lack of equal opportunity, we'd all be a lot better off. Is five minutes a day too much to ask for the promise of a better tomorrow? I hope not, but then again, the law is not just a moral stance. It is the consensus of society on our minimum standards of behavior. The key to Follett's soul is his longing for the effortless, irresponsible, automatic consciousness of an animal. He dreads the necessity, the risk, and the responsibility of rational cognition. As a result, I, not being one of the many puerile pseudo-intellectuals of this world, unequivocally hope you're not being misled by the "new Follett". Only his methods and tactics have changed. Follett's goal is still the same: to commit acts of immorality, dishonesty, and treason. That's why I'm telling you that if you think that the future of the entire world rests in Follett's hands, then think again.
Here's an eye-opener for you: We must give to bigotry no sanction, to persecution no assistance. Follett has remarked that society is screaming for his editorials. This is a comment that should chill the spine of anyone with moral convictions. To make sure you understand I'll spell it out for you. For starters, Follett's emotionally biased and expletive-filled slurs push home the point that he knows perfectly well that it's pesky bozos like him that lead us, lemminglike, over the precipice of self-destruction. We can therefore extrapolate that one of the great mysteries of modern life is, How much longer can we tolerate his unsophisticated notions before the whole country collectively throws up? It is bootless to speculate on the matter but it should be noted that Follett is lacking in the social graces. It follows from this that not only does he pander to our worst fears, but he then commands his advocates, "Go, and do thou likewise."
I'm sorry if I've gotten a little off track here, but if I were to compile a list of Follett's forays into espionage, sabotage, and subversion, it would fill an entire page and perhaps even run over onto the following one. Such a list would surely make every sane person who has passed the age of six realize that this is not the place to develop that subject. It demands many pages of analysis, which I can't spare in this letter. Instead, I'll just state the key point, which is that Follett has allied himself with the devil and serves him faithfully. An obvious parallel from a slightly different context is that I wouldn't judge his habitu�s too harshly. They're undoubtedly just cannon fodder for Follett's plot to leave behind a wake of pestiferous reaction.
I use such language purposefully-and somewhat sardonically-to illustrate how Follett's factotums allege that anyone who disagrees with Follett is ultimately rummy. This is precisely the non-equation that Follett is trying to patch together. What he's missing, as usual, is that he is not just unpleasant. He is unbelievably, astronomically unpleasant. As I often like to put it, if we don't give him a rhadamanthine warning not to introduce more restrictions on our already dwindling freedoms right now, then Follett's canards will soon start to metastasize until they entangle our peace and prosperity in the toils of the ambition, rivalship, interest, humor, or caprice of paltry party animals. I just want to say that Follett's the type of person who will trump up any lie for the occasion, and the more of a thumper it
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>"james" <ja...@marage.demon.co.uk> wrote in message >news:6MotHfKSI4RKFwca@marage.demon.co.uk... >> In message <4A45EF74.D6933...@tesco.net>, Frederick Williams >> <frederick.willia...@tesco.net> writes >>>james wrote:
>>>> Bless my soul -- a flaktoid. Close but no cheroot. Not even a whiff of >>>> one.
>>>> [...]
>>>> I bet you regret your ill-judged little flaktoid now!
>>>No, I don't think so. A residue of doubt remains because I don't know >>>what a flaktoid is.
>> My silly invented jargon because the correct Group Dynamics term, >> 'presumptive invalidation', is such a cumbersome mouthful. >Why does Mr. James Follett stir up one part of the population against >another?
(Wry chuckle and snip computer-generated diatribe)
The worst thing that can be said about me is so shameful that it has to be rotated rather than be said out loud in polite company:
"The Honest One" wrote: > "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message > news:MZ-dnWWbvaMjB9vXnZ2dnUVZ8tti4p2d@bt.com... >> "The Honest One" wrote: >>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>> news:hJKdnfG6m-eES9jXnZ2dnUVZ8hpi4p2d@bt.com... >>>> "The Honest One" wrote: >>>>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:f4ednfFOnp_ZoNjXnZ2dnUVZ8mpi4p2d@bt.com... >>>>>> "The Honest One" wrote: >>>>>>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:QqOdnXweVuRRY9nXnZ2dnUVZ8kZi4p2d@bt.com... >>>>>>>> Neil Barker wrote: >>>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 7:01 pm, james <ja...@marage.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I once had lunch with Michael Jackson. It sounds improbable > but >>>>> it >>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>> in that big hotel on the front at Eastbourne. The lunch was >>>>> hosted >>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>> Paul Hamlyn, the owner and chairman of Octopus Books. He had >>>>>>> launched a >>>>>>>>>> new paperback imprint, Mandarin, and used two titles for the >>>>>>> launch -- a >>>>>>>>>> book of mine called 'Mirage' -- about Mossad plans to steal >>>>> Mirage >>>>>>> 5 >>>>>>>>>> drawings from Switzerland following de Gaulle's embargo on > the >>>>>>> supply of >>>>>>>>>> the fighters as a result of the Six Day War. The other title >>> was >>>>>>>>>> 'Moonwalk' by Michael Jackson.
>>>>>>>>>> Mandarin sent a car to collect me, and a Bristow helicopter > to >>>>>>> collect >>>>>>>>>> Michael Jackson from Paris where he was doing a song and > dance >>>>>>> show. The >>>>>>>>>> helicopter's arrival and departure made an awful mess of the >>>>>>> hotel's >>>>>>>>>> manicured and Philishaved gardens on the front.
>>>>>>>>>> I had a splendid lunch. Michael Jackson ate a lettuce leaf >>>>> although >>>>>>> he >>>>>>>>>> did eventually weaken and tried a spoonful of my trifle. Just >>> the >>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>> spoonful.
>>>>>>>>>> Michael Jackson was, to be charitable, a little weird. It was > a >>>>>>>>>> delicious trifle. Too young to die, though, but not as young > as >>>>>>> Douglas >>>>>>>>>> Adams. To lose one acquaintance early is unfortunate, to lose >>> two >>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>> carelessness.
>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> James Follett >>>>>>>>> You piece of filth. You just can't pass up an opportunity to >>> make >>>>>>>>> yourself look as though you know the rich and famous, even at >>> the >>>>>>>>> expense of someone's death.
>>>>>>>>> Why do you bother to post here? No-one reads your pathetic >>> drivel >>>>>>>>> since you contributed to the demise of demon.local.
>>>>>>>>> Sad wanker.
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Neil Barker >>>>>>>> You read it.
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Tony Dragon >>>>>>> "Strange markings in the sand" >>>>>>> by - Peter Dragon
>>>>>> The View from the Cliff >>>>>> by Eileen Dover >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Tony Dragon >>>>> "Tiger's revenge" >>>>> by - Claude Balls
>>>> "Somebody at the Door" >>>> by Isabel Ringing >>>> -- >>>> Tony Dragon >>> "Forty yards to the outhouse" >>> by - Willy Makeet & illustrated by Betty Donte
> "The Honest One" wrote: >> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >> news:MZ-dnWWbvaMjB9vXnZ2dnUVZ8tti4p2d@bt.com... >>> "The Honest One" wrote: >>>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>>> news:hJKdnfG6m-eES9jXnZ2dnUVZ8hpi4p2d@bt.com... >>>>> "The Honest One" wrote: >>>>>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:f4ednfFOnp_ZoNjXnZ2dnUVZ8mpi4p2d@bt.com... >>>>>>> "The Honest One" wrote: >>>>>>>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:QqOdnXweVuRRY9nXnZ2dnUVZ8kZi4p2d@bt.com... >>>>>>>>> Neil Barker wrote: >>>>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 7:01 pm, james <ja...@marage.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> I once had lunch with Michael Jackson. It sounds improbable >> but >>>>>> it >>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>> in that big hotel on the front at Eastbourne. The lunch was >>>>>> hosted >>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>>> Paul Hamlyn, the owner and chairman of Octopus Books. He had >>>>>>>> launched a >>>>>>>>>>> new paperback imprint, Mandarin, and used two titles for the >>>>>>>> launch -- a >>>>>>>>>>> book of mine called 'Mirage' -- about Mossad plans to steal >>>>>> Mirage >>>>>>>> 5 >>>>>>>>>>> drawings from Switzerland following de Gaulle's embargo on >> the >>>>>>>> supply of >>>>>>>>>>> the fighters as a result of the Six Day War. The other title >>>> was >>>>>>>>>>> 'Moonwalk' by Michael Jackson.
>>>>>>>>>>> Mandarin sent a car to collect me, and a Bristow helicopter >> to >>>>>>>> collect >>>>>>>>>>> Michael Jackson from Paris where he was doing a song and >> dance >>>>>>>> show. The >>>>>>>>>>> helicopter's arrival and departure made an awful mess of the >>>>>>>> hotel's >>>>>>>>>>> manicured and Philishaved gardens on the front.
>>>>>>>>>>> I had a splendid lunch. Michael Jackson ate a lettuce leaf >>>>>> although >>>>>>>> he >>>>>>>>>>> did eventually weaken and tried a spoonful of my trifle. Just >>>> the >>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>> spoonful.
>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Jackson was, to be charitable, a little weird. It was >> a >>>>>>>>>>> delicious trifle. Too young to die, though, but not as young >> as >>>>>>>> Douglas >>>>>>>>>>> Adams. To lose one acquaintance early is unfortunate, to lose >>>> two >>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>> carelessness.
>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> James Follett >>>>>>>>>> You piece of filth. You just can't pass up an opportunity to >>>> make >>>>>>>>>> yourself look as though you know the rich and famous, even at >>>> the >>>>>>>>>> expense of someone's death.
>>>>>>>>>> Why do you bother to post here? No-one reads your pathetic >>>> drivel >>>>>>>>>> since you contributed to the demise of demon.local.
>>>>>>>>>> Sad wanker.
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Neil Barker >>>>>>>>> You read it.
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Tony Dragon >>>>>>>> "Strange markings in the sand" >>>>>>>> by - Peter Dragon
>>>>>>> The View from the Cliff >>>>>>> by Eileen Dover >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Tony Dragon >>>>>> "Tiger's revenge" >>>>>> by - Claude Balls
>>>>> "Somebody at the Door" >>>>> by Isabel Ringing >>>>> -- >>>>> Tony Dragon >>>> "Forty yards to the outhouse" >>>> by - Willy Makeet & illustrated by Betty Donte
>>> "Spots on the Wall" >>> by Hugh Flun Dung
>> "Under the grand-stands" >> by - Seymour Butts
> "Confessions of a Peeping Tom" > by I. Sawyer Bush
Fergal wrote: > "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message > news:6_WdndeQ0YedmtTXnZ2dnUVZ8gli4p2d@bt.com... >> "The Honest One" wrote: >>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>> news:MZ-dnWWbvaMjB9vXnZ2dnUVZ8tti4p2d@bt.com... >>>> "The Honest One" wrote: >>>>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:hJKdnfG6m-eES9jXnZ2dnUVZ8hpi4p2d@bt.com... >>>>>> "The Honest One" wrote: >>>>>>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:f4ednfFOnp_ZoNjXnZ2dnUVZ8mpi4p2d@bt.com... >>>>>>>> "The Honest One" wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:QqOdnXweVuRRY9nXnZ2dnUVZ8kZi4p2d@bt.com... >>>>>>>>>> Neil Barker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 7:01 pm, james <ja...@marage.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> I once had lunch with Michael Jackson. It sounds improbable >>> but >>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>> in that big hotel on the front at Eastbourne. The lunch was >>>>>>> hosted >>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Hamlyn, the owner and chairman of Octopus Books. He had >>>>>>>>> launched a >>>>>>>>>>>> new paperback imprint, Mandarin, and used two titles for the >>>>>>>>> launch -- a >>>>>>>>>>>> book of mine called 'Mirage' -- about Mossad plans to steal >>>>>>> Mirage >>>>>>>>> 5 >>>>>>>>>>>> drawings from Switzerland following de Gaulle's embargo on >>> the >>>>>>>>> supply of >>>>>>>>>>>> the fighters as a result of the Six Day War. The other title >>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>> 'Moonwalk' by Michael Jackson.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Mandarin sent a car to collect me, and a Bristow helicopter >>> to >>>>>>>>> collect >>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Jackson from Paris where he was doing a song and >>> dance >>>>>>>>> show. The >>>>>>>>>>>> helicopter's arrival and departure made an awful mess of the >>>>>>>>> hotel's >>>>>>>>>>>> manicured and Philishaved gardens on the front.
>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a splendid lunch. Michael Jackson ate a lettuce leaf >>>>>>> although >>>>>>>>> he >>>>>>>>>>>> did eventually weaken and tried a spoonful of my trifle. Just >>>>> the >>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>>> spoonful.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Jackson was, to be charitable, a little weird. It was >>> a >>>>>>>>>>>> delicious trifle. Too young to die, though, but not as young >>> as >>>>>>>>> Douglas >>>>>>>>>>>> Adams. To lose one acquaintance early is unfortunate, to lose >>>>> two >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>> carelessness.
>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> James Follett >>>>>>>>>>> You piece of filth. You just can't pass up an opportunity to >>>>> make >>>>>>>>>>> yourself look as though you know the rich and famous, even at >>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> expense of someone's death.
>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you bother to post here? No-one reads your pathetic >>>>> drivel >>>>>>>>>>> since you contributed to the demise of demon.local.
>>>>>>>>>>> Sad wanker.
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Neil Barker >>>>>>>>>> You read it.
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Tony Dragon >>>>>>>>> "Strange markings in the sand" >>>>>>>>> by - Peter Dragon
>>>>>>>> The View from the Cliff >>>>>>>> by Eileen Dover >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Tony Dragon >>>>>>> "Tiger's revenge" >>>>>>> by - Claude Balls
>>>>>> "Somebody at the Door" >>>>>> by Isabel Ringing >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Tony Dragon >>>>> "Forty yards to the outhouse" >>>>> by - Willy Makeet & illustrated by Betty Donte
>>>> "Spots on the Wall" >>>> by Hugh Flun Dung >>> "Under the grand-stands" >>> by - Seymour Butts
>> "Confessions of a Peeping Tom" >> by I. Sawyer Bush
> Fergal wrote: >> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >> news:6_WdndeQ0YedmtTXnZ2dnUVZ8gli4p2d@bt.com... >>> "The Honest One" wrote: >>>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>>> news:MZ-dnWWbvaMjB9vXnZ2dnUVZ8tti4p2d@bt.com... >>>>> "The Honest One" wrote: >>>>>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>>>>> news:hJKdnfG6m-eES9jXnZ2dnUVZ8hpi4p2d@bt.com... >>>>>>> "The Honest One" wrote: >>>>>>>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>> news:f4ednfFOnp_ZoNjXnZ2dnUVZ8mpi4p2d@bt.com... >>>>>>>>> "The Honest One" wrote: >>>>>>>>>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>> news:QqOdnXweVuRRY9nXnZ2dnUVZ8kZi4p2d@bt.com... >>>>>>>>>>> Neil Barker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 7:01 pm, james <ja...@marage.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> I once had lunch with Michael Jackson. It sounds improbable >>>> but >>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>> in that big hotel on the front at Eastbourne. The lunch was >>>>>>>> hosted >>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Hamlyn, the owner and chairman of Octopus Books. He had >>>>>>>>>> launched a >>>>>>>>>>>>> new paperback imprint, Mandarin, and used two titles for the >>>>>>>>>> launch -- a >>>>>>>>>>>>> book of mine called 'Mirage' -- about Mossad plans to steal >>>>>>>> Mirage >>>>>>>>>> 5 >>>>>>>>>>>>> drawings from Switzerland following de Gaulle's embargo on >>>> the >>>>>>>>>> supply of >>>>>>>>>>>>> the fighters as a result of the Six Day War. The other title >>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Moonwalk' by Michael Jackson.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mandarin sent a car to collect me, and a Bristow helicopter >>>> to >>>>>>>>>> collect >>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Jackson from Paris where he was doing a song and >>>> dance >>>>>>>>>> show. The >>>>>>>>>>>>> helicopter's arrival and departure made an awful mess of the >>>>>>>>>> hotel's >>>>>>>>>>>>> manicured and Philishaved gardens on the front.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a splendid lunch. Michael Jackson ate a lettuce leaf >>>>>>>> although >>>>>>>>>> he >>>>>>>>>>>>> did eventually weaken and tried a spoonful of my trifle. Just >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>>>> spoonful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Jackson was, to be charitable, a little weird. It was >>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> delicious trifle. Too young to die, though, but not as young >>>> as >>>>>>>>>> Douglas >>>>>>>>>>>>> Adams. To lose one acquaintance early is unfortunate, to lose >>>>>> two >>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>> carelessness.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>> James Follett >>>>>>>>>>>> You piece of filth. You just can't pass up an opportunity to >>>>>> make >>>>>>>>>>>> yourself look as though you know the rich and famous, even at >>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> expense of someone's death.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you bother to post here? No-one reads your pathetic >>>>>> drivel >>>>>>>>>>>> since you contributed to the demise of demon.local.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sad wanker.
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Neil Barker >>>>>>>>>>> You read it.
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Tony Dragon >>>>>>>>>> "Strange markings in the sand" >>>>>>>>>> by - Peter Dragon
>>>>>>>>> The View from the Cliff >>>>>>>>> by Eileen Dover >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> Tony Dragon >>>>>>>> "Tiger's revenge" >>>>>>>> by - Claude Balls
>>>>>>> "Somebody at the Door" >>>>>>> by Isabel Ringing >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Tony Dragon >>>>>> "Forty yards to the outhouse" >>>>>> by - Willy Makeet & illustrated by Betty Donte
>>>>> "Spots on the Wall" >>>>> by Hugh Flun Dung >>>> "Under the grand-stands" >>>> by - Seymour Butts
>>> "Confessions of a Peeping Tom" >>> by I. Sawyer Bush
>>> --
>> Get rich quick by Robin Banks
> "The Art Of Self Love" > by Ima Wayne Kerr
> --
Confessions of another peeping tom by Mustapha Shufti
Fergal wrote: > "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message > news:UdCdnbLLq4qks9TXnZ2dnUVZ8kBi4p2d@bt.com... >> Fergal wrote: >>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>> news:6_WdndeQ0YedmtTXnZ2dnUVZ8gli4p2d@bt.com... >>>> "The Honest One" wrote: >>>>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>>>> news:MZ-dnWWbvaMjB9vXnZ2dnUVZ8tti4p2d@bt.com... >>>>>> "The Honest One" wrote: >>>>>>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>>>>>> news:hJKdnfG6m-eES9jXnZ2dnUVZ8hpi4p2d@bt.com... >>>>>>>> "The Honest One" wrote: >>>>>>>>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>> news:f4ednfFOnp_ZoNjXnZ2dnUVZ8mpi4p2d@bt.com... >>>>>>>>>> "The Honest One" wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> "Tony Dragon" <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote in message >>>>>>>>>>> news:QqOdnXweVuRRY9nXnZ2dnUVZ8kZi4p2d@bt.com... >>>>>>>>>>>> Neil Barker wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Jun 26, 7:01 pm, james <ja...@marage.demon.co.uk> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> I once had lunch with Michael Jackson. It sounds improbable >>>>> but >>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> in that big hotel on the front at Eastbourne. The lunch was >>>>>>>>> hosted >>>>>>>>>>> by >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Paul Hamlyn, the owner and chairman of Octopus Books. He had >>>>>>>>>>> launched a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> new paperback imprint, Mandarin, and used two titles for the >>>>>>>>>>> launch -- a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> book of mine called 'Mirage' -- about Mossad plans to steal >>>>>>>>> Mirage >>>>>>>>>>> 5 >>>>>>>>>>>>>> drawings from Switzerland following de Gaulle's embargo on >>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> supply of >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fighters as a result of the Six Day War. The other title >>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Moonwalk' by Michael Jackson.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Mandarin sent a car to collect me, and a Bristow helicopter >>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>> collect >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Jackson from Paris where he was doing a song and >>>>> dance >>>>>>>>>>> show. The >>>>>>>>>>>>>> helicopter's arrival and departure made an awful mess of the >>>>>>>>>>> hotel's >>>>>>>>>>>>>> manicured and Philishaved gardens on the front.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I had a splendid lunch. Michael Jackson ate a lettuce leaf >>>>>>>>> although >>>>>>>>>>> he >>>>>>>>>>>>>> did eventually weaken and tried a spoonful of my trifle. Just >>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> one >>>>>>>>>>>>>> spoonful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Michael Jackson was, to be charitable, a little weird. It was >>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>>> delicious trifle. Too young to die, though, but not as young >>>>> as >>>>>>>>>>> Douglas >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Adams. To lose one acquaintance early is unfortunate, to lose >>>>>>> two >>>>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>>>>>>> carelessness.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>>>> James Follett >>>>>>>>>>>>> You piece of filth. You just can't pass up an opportunity to >>>>>>> make >>>>>>>>>>>>> yourself look as though you know the rich and famous, even at >>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> expense of someone's death.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why do you bother to post here? No-one reads your pathetic >>>>>>> drivel >>>>>>>>>>>>> since you contributed to the demise of demon.local.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sad wanker.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Neil Barker >>>>>>>>>>>> You read it.
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tony Dragon >>>>>>>>>>> "Strange markings in the sand" >>>>>>>>>>> by - Peter Dragon
>>>>>>>>>> The View from the Cliff >>>>>>>>>> by Eileen Dover >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> Tony Dragon >>>>>>>>> "Tiger's revenge" >>>>>>>>> by - Claude Balls
>>>>>>>> "Somebody at the Door" >>>>>>>> by Isabel Ringing >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Tony Dragon >>>>>>> "Forty yards to the outhouse" >>>>>>> by - Willy Makeet & illustrated by Betty Donte
>>>>>> "Spots on the Wall" >>>>>> by Hugh Flun Dung >>>>> "Under the grand-stands" >>>>> by - Seymour Butts
>>>> "Confessions of a Peeping Tom" >>>> by I. Sawyer Bush
>>>> --
>>> Get rich quick by Robin Banks >> "The Art Of Self Love" >> by Ima Wayne Kerr
>> --
> Confessions of another peeping tom by Mustapha Shufti
