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Grouchy...@googlemail.com

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Mar 18, 2008, 8:43:27 PM3/18/08
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While surfing the Web for information on tax credits I came across a
Web site from taxcredits.org.uk stating that many people are owed a
tax credit payout from the Inland Revenue for the period 2002/3. The
site invites those that might be eligible to claim through it, but
then states a £94 processing / administration charge is deducted from
successful claims.

As these payments are made to those on relatively low incomes isn't it
outrageous that their entitlement is reduced by a significant amount
merely for claiming what they are owed. Is it possible to make a claim
directly from the Inland Revenue, and if so what is the procedure and
to what office should the claim be addressed?

Robbie

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Mar 19, 2008, 7:58:43 AM3/19/08
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Phone the tax credits helpline and discuss it with them. You'll need
your P60s.

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Robbie

tim (not at home)

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Mar 19, 2008, 1:21:56 PM3/19/08
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This is just a commercial company offering you a service.

Do you think it outgareous that Sainsbruys charge poor people for food that
they need to stay alive, or do you think that they should get it for free?

tim


Andy Pandy

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Mar 19, 2008, 3:26:43 PM3/19/08
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<Grouchy...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> While surfing the Web for information on tax credits I came across a
> Web site from taxcredits.org.uk stating that many people are owed a
> tax credit payout from the Inland Revenue for the period 2002/3.

This is likely to refer to the old Children's Tax Credit (don't
confuse this with the Child Tax Credit which is part of the current
tax credits system post Apr 2003).

The Children's Tax Credit ran for 2 tax years from Apr 2001-Apr 2003.
It was claimable via your tax return/PAYE code. Apparently a lot of
people didn't claim it and there seem to be a lot of leeches out there
who want lots of money to tell you about it.

If you had a child under 16 in those tax years and didn't claim it,
phone your tax office (the income tax people, NOT the tax credits
people) and tell them. I'm not sure what timescale you've got to claim
it in, 6 years seems to ring a bell, but the tax office will tell you.
If you haven't got your tax office number (it may be on your payslip),
see:

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/menus/contactus.shtml

It was worth about £520 a year IIRC, and double in the second year
only if you had a baby at the time. It was scaled down if you paid 40%
tax.

The other tax credit at the time (pre Apr 2003) was the WFTC, which
was heavily means tested and I doubt you'd be able to make a backdated
claim for that now.

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Andy


Andy Pandy

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Mar 19, 2008, 3:33:15 PM3/19/08
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"tim (not at home)" <tims_n...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote in message
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>
> <Grouchy...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
news:47b387ee-001f-442b...@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
> While surfing the Web for information on tax credits I came across a
> Web site from taxcredits.org.uk stating that many people are owed a
> tax credit payout from the Inland Revenue for the period 2002/3. The
> site invites those that might be eligible to claim through it, but
> then states a £94 processing / administration charge is deducted
from
> successful claims.
>
> As these payments are made to those on relatively low incomes isn't
it
> outrageous that their entitlement is reduced by a significant amount
> merely for claiming what they are owed. Is it possible to make a
claim
> directly from the Inland Revenue, and if so what is the procedure
and
> to what office should the claim be addressed?
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------------
>
> This is just a commercial company offering you a service.

Why are they using an "org.uk" domain then? These are meant for
not-for-profit organisations.

> Do you think it outgareous that Sainsbruys charge poor people for
food that
> they need to stay alive, or do you think that they should get it for
free?

Bad analogy. It a bit like being charged for directions to
Sainsbury's.

Luckily the OP was sensible enough to post on a forum like this where
he'll get advice for free.

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Andy


Andy Pandy

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Mar 19, 2008, 3:35:19 PM3/19/08
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"Robbie" <ngrob...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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No, it sounds like it's the income tax office he wants. The tax
credits people won't deal with the old Children's Tax Credit as that
was part of the income tax system.

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Andy

Mark

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Mar 19, 2008, 3:39:02 PM3/19/08
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On Wed, 19 Mar 2008 19:26:43 -0000, "Andy Pandy"
<spam8...@wonderful.spam.invalid> wrote:

>
><Grouchy...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>news:47b387ee-001f-442b...@i29g2000prf.googlegroups.com...
>> While surfing the Web for information on tax credits I came across a
>> Web site from taxcredits.org.uk stating that many people are owed a
>> tax credit payout from the Inland Revenue for the period 2002/3.
>
>This is likely to refer to the old Children's Tax Credit (don't
>confuse this with the Child Tax Credit which is part of the current
>tax credits system post Apr 2003).
>
>The Children's Tax Credit ran for 2 tax years from Apr 2001-Apr 2003.
>It was claimable via your tax return/PAYE code. Apparently a lot of
>people didn't claim it and there seem to be a lot of leeches out there
>who want lots of money to tell you about it.

A lot of people didn't claim it because they didn't know about it!
(including me).

>If you had a child under 16 in those tax years and didn't claim it,
>phone your tax office (the income tax people, NOT the tax credits
>people) and tell them. I'm not sure what timescale you've got to claim
>it in, 6 years seems to ring a bell, but the tax office will tell you.
>If you haven't got your tax office number (it may be on your payslip),
>see:
>
>http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/menus/contactus.shtml

This is the general contact us page - do you have any idea which
agency I need to contact? I've tried the current Tax Credits
department , but they say it's not them.

Mark.

Andy Pandy

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Mar 19, 2008, 3:57:51 PM3/19/08
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"Mark" <ihat...@spam.spam.spam.spam> wrote in message
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It's not the tax credit department. You need your income tax office.
If you've had a PAYE coding notice it'll have the phone number. If not
check your payslip/P60 and it'll have a tax reference with a 3 digit
number. Go here and enter that number to find your tax office's phone
number:

http://www.hmrc.gov.uk/local/individuals/index.htm

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Andy


Rob.

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Mar 19, 2008, 4:49:16 PM3/19/08
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>> While surfing the Web for information on tax credits I came across a
>> Web site from taxcredits.org.uk stating that many people are owed a
>> tax credit payout from the Inland Revenue for the period 2002/3. The
>> site invites those that might be eligible to claim through it, but
>> then states a £94 processing / administration charge is deducted
> from
>> successful claims.
>>
>> As these payments are made to those on relatively low incomes isn't
> it
>> outrageous that their entitlement is reduced by a significant amount
>> merely for claiming what they are owed. Is it possible to make a
> claim
>> directly from the Inland Revenue, and if so what is the procedure
> and
>> to what office should the claim be addressed?
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> --------------------
>> This is just a commercial company offering you a service.
>
> Why are they using an "org.uk" domain then? These are meant for
> not-for-profit organisations.

Perhaps it was cheaper than a .com perhaps it was all that was
available. Although there are these conventions they do not seem to be
enforced.

>
>> Do you think it outgareous that Sainsbruys charge poor people for
> food that
>> they need to stay alive, or do you think that they should get it for
> free?
>
> Bad analogy. It a bit like being charged for directions to
> Sainsbury's.

It is akin to those offers to, for a fee, register you with the TPS
and/or MPS. Anyone can do that themselves for free.

I wonder if I will find anything if I search ebay for old rope?

Mark

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Mar 20, 2008, 4:52:38 AM3/20/08
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The fact that this page is all one large graphic and has no text rings
alarm bells for me.

How did you find this site anyway? It doesn't appear on any searches
I do.

M.

Robbie

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Mar 20, 2008, 6:39:51 AM3/20/08
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The web address was only registered on 9 February and yes, there's no
text links, it's just one large graphic (apart from the link to the
warmfrontgrants site - which is registered to the same address as
taxcredits.org.uk). The registrants are called "Wes and Dave" and the
"ecowarrior" at the following address:

6 Bosley View
Congleton
CW12 3TU
GB

Yes, I can see why alarm bells might be ringing.
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Robbie

Tim

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Mar 20, 2008, 8:19:24 AM3/20/08
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>> <Grouchy...@googlemail.com> wrote
>> ... The site invites those that might
>> be eligible to claim through it...
>>
> "tim (not at home)" wrote

>> This is just a commercial company offering you a service.
>
"Andy Pandy" wrote

> Why are they using an "org.uk" domain then?
> These are meant for not-for-profit organisations.

That's only a very loose "meant for", though,
and even Nominet doesn't follow that... See:-
http://www.nominet.org.uk/registrants/aboutdomainnames/rules/

"Rules of Registration and Use of Domain Names
"...
"4. General Rules
"...
"4.4 We do not impose restrictions on your status as applicant for the
registration of a Domain Name in the following SLDs ("Open SLDs"):
"4.4.1 .co.uk; or
"4.4.2 .org.uk.
"In the SLD Charter of the SLD Rules for the Open SLDs
we do set out certain intentions regarding the class of
applicant or use of registrations of the Domain Name ...
However, we do not forbid applications, and
will take no action in respect of registrations
that do not comply with the SLD Charters..."


> "tim (not at home)" wrote


>> Do you think it outgareous that Sainsbruys charge
>> poor people for food that they need to stay alive,
>> or do you think that they should get it for free?
>

"Andy Pandy" wrote


> Bad analogy. It a bit like being charged for directions to Sainsbury's.

No it's not - it's like being charged to *take* them to Sainsbury's.

The site isn't just offering to *tell* them about it,
they'll *process* the claim too ("claim through it").

If you asked a cabbie for directions, he might tell you
for free but he wouldn't drive you there without charging!

Rob S

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Mar 20, 2008, 9:42:33 AM3/20/08
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 10:39:51 +0000, Robbie <ngrob...@hotmail.com> wrote:

-The registrants are called "Wes and Dave" and the
-"ecowarrior" at the following address:

who are most likely a Chas & Dave tribute band.

All together now...

You won't stop talking, why don't you give it a rest..
You got no directions to Sainsbury's, so setup a website and sell them to
people.

Robbie

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Mar 20, 2008, 10:25:53 AM3/20/08
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speaking of selling (food), that address was previously used to run a
takeaway website, a "one stop shop for UK takeaways" (www.takeaways.tv,
now parked)

quite a change in direction, from takeaways to tax credits...

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Robbie

Rob S

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Mar 27, 2008, 9:18:04 AM3/27/08
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On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 14:25:53 +0000, Robbie <ngrob...@hotmail.com> wrote:

-quite a change in direction, from takeaways to tax credits...

Both sound initially appealing, but leave a nasty taste in the mouth..

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