Amanda's pixels
fishpock
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3758803357
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3759165960
Vass
"fishpock" <fish...@fishpock.venus.invalid> wrote in message
news:Wmoid.6636$up1....@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
> Can anyone explain the difference in pixel sizes between these auctions?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3758803357
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3759165960
>
>
2 diff pictures, one with yellow in the middle, one with blue
whats your point ?
Penny
>Can anyone explain the difference in pixel sizes between these auctions?
>
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3758803357
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3759165960
>
One image fills more of the width of the box than the other but neither
fills it completely.
--
Penny
listen: there's a hell of a good universe next door; let's go
e. e. cummings
Kim Andrews
wrote:
>On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 11:27:50 GMT, fishpock scrawled in the dust...
>
>>Can anyone explain the difference in pixel sizes between these auctions?
>>
>>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3758803357
>>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3759165960
>>
>
>One image fills more of the width of the box than the other but neither
>fills it completely.
I only went to the first one, and I didn't stay long enough to look at
the pictures... the tune, the tune! Aaargggh!!
<ahem>
Sorry, I'm better now. :o)
So, how do folks feel about tunes embedded in listings. A good thing?
A bad thing? The very work of the devil?
--
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Books at www.bykimbo.com (now mail-order)
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Find me on ebay at http://members.ebay.co.uk/aboutme/bykimbo/
Dr Zoidberg
>
> So, how do folks feel about tunes embedded in listings. A good thing?
> A bad thing? The very work of the devil?
Evil beyond belief.
I wouldn't stay around long enough to even consider bidding
--
Alex
"I laugh in the face of danger"
"Then I hide until it goes away"
www.drzoidberg.co.uk
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Gran
>Can anyone explain the difference in pixel sizes between these auctions?
>
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3758803357
>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3759165960
>
That's a cruel trick, posting the auction ID's without a health
warning!
--
All I want for Christmas is my two front ..... no wait a minute ... more than that....
Amanda Angelika
Penny <sp...@labyrinth.freeuk.com> typed:
> On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 11:27:50 GMT, fishpock scrawled in the dust...
>
>> Can anyone explain the difference in pixel sizes between these
>> auctions?
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3758803357
>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3759165960
>>
>
> One image fills more of the width of the box than the other but
> neither fills it completely.
That's because the aspect ratio of the paintings are different to that of
the boxes and I cropped the images to the paintings. Ebay's image management
system is smart enough not to change the aspect ratio to fit it to the box,
which would misrepresent the image in any case.
The slight difference in white areas is because the one image is slightly
more cropped than the other. Unless you use a copystand it is difficult to
get the picture plane of the camera 100%parallel to the 2d artwork one is
photographing and that causes perspective distortion. But I can get things
reasonably parallel without using special equipment and because on allows a
small margin around the edge of a canvas or board for a picture frame, one
can get away with cropping a little bit off the edges of the painting image
to square it up without seriously misrepresenting the actual painting. Which
is basically why there is a minor difference between the two paintings.
--
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Grimly Curmudgeon
drugs began to take hold. I remember Kim Andrews <som...@hotmail.com>
saying something like:
>So, how do folks feel about tunes embedded in listings. A good thing?
>A bad thing? The very work of the devil?
A fart from the arse of Auld Nick himself. Along with those utterly naff
mouse trails.
Amanda Angelika
Dr Zoidberg <AlexNOOOO!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> typed:
> Kim Andrews wrote:
>>
>> So, how do folks feel about tunes embedded in listings. A good thing?
>> A bad thing? The very work of the devil?
>
> Evil beyond belief.
> I wouldn't stay around long enough to even consider bidding
That's why I only put it on the one really as a kind of experiment. But it
is an MP3 sound recording (made from a midi) streamed at 24 kbit in stereo
through a flash movie which has both a play and a stop button for user
control :) This is better than midi, because one can ensure it always sounds
the same, and it is easy to make it turn-off and on-able. :)
Bert Root
> So, how do folks feel about tunes embedded in listings. A good thing?
> A bad thing? The very work of the devil?
Absolute dross that puts me off the auction completely until I spot the
"art" which finishes it for me entirely..
--
><((((º> Bert Root® <º))))><
Gizmo
"Kim Andrews" <som...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:4q8ko0thovfdo9ali...@4ax.com...
>
> So, how do folks feel about tunes embedded in listings. A good thing?
> A bad thing? The very work of the devil?
Whether it be an eBay listing or a web site, I just click straight out.
They take tackiness to a whole new level
Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat
"Grimly Curmudgeon" <grimlycur...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:negko0tm7pk199csq...@4ax.com...
Oh yes - the bane of the visually impaired they are, totally bloody
confusing.
Also dark purple text on black background. Argh.
But the worst is embedded tunes. They irritate me especially as I am
invariably listen to music whilst I surf which means I get a nasty clashing
aural experience. And I needn't say how traumatic it is when you have a
nasty aural experience ... ;-)
I have to say such embellishments make me immediately run, not walk, away
from the page to spend my moolah somewhere else.
Rachael
Cerian
<som...@hotmail.com> writes
>So, how do folks feel about tunes embedded in listings. A good thing?
>A bad thing? The very work of the devil?
2nd two :)
--
Cerian
Amanda Angelika
Gran <abg...@hotmail.com> typed:
> On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 11:27:50 GMT, "fishpock"
> <fish...@fishpock.venus.invalid> tickled the keyboard to say:
>
>> Can anyone explain the difference in pixel sizes between these
>> auctions?
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3758803357
>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3759165960
>>
> That's a cruel trick, posting the auction ID's without a health
> warning!
They sell reasonably OK, but abstraction is not as popular as it was a year
ago.
Actually as a point of interest if anyone wishes to test the accuracy of the
free Andale counters I have two counters on this listing (item 5336509561
Sexy over the knee glitter socks) one supplied by www.cgispy.com set to
count unique page hits (reloads are disabled) along with a free andale
counter. Now at present I'm getting 6 hits on the CGIspy counter and 1 on
the Andale, so it appears the andale counters don't work, at least not on my
computer.
Gizmo
"Bert Root" <bertroo...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
news:418a4b8f$0$29190$cc9e...@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
> Prior to the stampede Kim Andrews tryped
>
> > So, how do folks feel about tunes embedded in listings. A good thing?
> > A bad thing? The very work of the devil?
>
> Absolute dross that puts me off the auction completely until I spot the
> "art" which finishes it for me entirely..
I actually quite like the art.
Its the tune that does it for me :o/
Charlie Farley
>
> I actually quite like the art.
Try This:)
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1277&item=5532678076&rd=1
--
Charlie Farley
Amanda Angelika
Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat <m...@privacy.net> typed:
> "Grimly Curmudgeon" <grimlycur...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:negko0tm7pk199csq...@4ax.com...
>> It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
>> drugs began to take hold. I remember Kim Andrews
>> <som...@hotmail.com> saying something like:
>>
>>> So, how do folks feel about tunes embedded in listings. A good
>>> thing? A bad thing? The very work of the devil?
>>
>> A fart from the arse of Auld Nick himself. Along with those utterly
>> naff mouse trails.
>
> Oh yes - the bane of the visually impaired they are, totally bloody
> confusing.
>
> Also dark purple text on black background. Argh.
You need a better monitor. :) No black or purple pigments were used. The
painting is predominantly Ultramarine Blue with a touch Phthalocyanine blue
:) If you are seeing purple and black then your hue and gamma settings are
wrong.
Saying that I tend to use Mac gamma settings on my monitor because I also do
design work for print, and find this better. However I rarely see poor
colour rendition with other people's images on eBay so the colour rendition
of my monitor must be quite accurate and consistant.
I'm not visually impaired. In fact colour blindness used to be tested on
entry to art college. I don't have any form of colour blindness. In fact for
my representational work I have been called "an accurate colourist" by
critics in the press. So I know there is no problem on that score.
You need a better monitor, or need to learn about gamma correction. Purple
and Black!? ROFL!
> But the worst is embedded tunes. They irritate me especially as I am
> invariably listen to music whilst I surf which means I get a nasty
> clashing aural experience. And I needn't say how traumatic it is when
> you have a nasty aural experience ... ;-)
There is that. I often listen to music myself when surfing the Internet and
that is a good arguement against background music, and why I have made it so
the user can turn the music off if so desired.
Amanda Angelika
Gizmo <Gi...@home.now> typed:
If you think that's bad you should see this one I designed for a client :)
www.cheapaschips.cc
Dr Zoidberg
> In news:2uv0lmF...@uni-berlin.de,
> Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat <m...@privacy.net> typed:
>> But the worst is embedded tunes. They irritate me especially as I am
>> invariably listen to music whilst I surf which means I get a nasty
>> clashing aural experience. And I needn't say how traumatic it is when
>> you have a nasty aural experience ... ;-)
>
> There is that. I often listen to music myself when surfing the
> Internet and that is a good arguement against background music, and
> why I have made it so the user can turn the music off if so desired.
If you want music then the default setting should be off.
By the time it has A) downloaded and B) started playing then you have pissed
off a hell of a lot of people
Amanda Angelika
Dr Zoidberg <AlexNOOOO!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> typed:
> Amanda Angelika wrote:
>> In news:2uv0lmF...@uni-berlin.de,
>> Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat <m...@privacy.net> typed:
>
>>> But the worst is embedded tunes. They irritate me especially as I am
>>> invariably listen to music whilst I surf which means I get a nasty
>>> clashing aural experience. And I needn't say how traumatic it is
>>> when you have a nasty aural experience ... ;-)
>>
>> There is that. I often listen to music myself when surfing the
>> Internet and that is a good arguement against background music, and
>> why I have made it so the user can turn the music off if so desired.
>
> If you want music then the default setting should be off.
> By the time it has A) downloaded and B) started playing then you have
> pissed off a hell of a lot of people
Ah but you get more attention by pissing people off, People come for miles
around to be pissed off. Well people always vote for Governments and they
piss people off; George Bush for example LOL ;)
Dr Zoidberg
> In news:2uv3taF...@uni-berlin.de,
> Dr Zoidberg <AlexNOOOO!!!!@drzoidberg.co.uk> typed:
>> Amanda Angelika wrote:
>>> In news:2uv0lmF...@uni-berlin.de,
>>> Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat <m...@privacy.net> typed:
>>
>>>> But the worst is embedded tunes. They irritate me especially as I
>>>> am invariably listen to music whilst I surf which means I get a
>>>> nasty clashing aural experience. And I needn't say how traumatic
>>>> it is when you have a nasty aural experience ... ;-)
>>>
>>> There is that. I often listen to music myself when surfing the
>>> Internet and that is a good arguement against background music, and
>>> why I have made it so the user can turn the music off if so desired.
>>
>> If you want music then the default setting should be off.
>> By the time it has A) downloaded and B) started playing then you have
>> pissed off a hell of a lot of people
>
> Ah but you get more attention by pissing people off, People come for
> miles around to be pissed off. Well people always vote for
> Governments and they piss people off; George Bush for example LOL ;)
If your idea of the ideal customer is an inbred slack jawed yokel , then by
all means keep the music.
Bert Root
> on entry to art college. I don't have any form of colour blindness.
Judging by the pics you failed that test and never made it to art college so
your point is moot. ;-)
Kim Andrews
<manic...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>I'm not visually impaired.
"It's not always about you."
fishpock
I just wondered which ones were the PAL pixels, and which were NTSC.
I was also wondering, in the terms of this post
www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=2svfn5F1pq2aqU1%40uni-berlin.de
whether these pixels
http://sumo.ebid.co.uk/perl/objects/auction.cgi?auction=1085530793-11842-0&mo=auction#pic
have been blended, or whether the artist is on drugs.
Amanda Angelika
Bert Root <bertroo...@dsl.pipex.com> typed:
> Prior to the stampede Amanda Angelika tryped
>
>> on entry to art college. I don't have any form of colour blindness.
>
> Judging by the pics you failed that test and never made it to art
> college so your point is moot. ;-)
No, I have a BA (hons) degree in Fine Art. :)
fishpock
> On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:24:56 -0000, "Amanda Angelika"
> <manic...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> I'm not visually impaired.
>
> "It's not always about you."
Exactly - neither was I until I saw those pictures.
Bert Root
> No, I have a BA (hons) degree in Fine Art. :)
Nought to smile about. How many ex art students do you know making a viable
career in the arts? You usually find them doing admin for the civil service
or working in the insurance industry.
Gizmo
"Amanda Angelika" <manic...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:2uv3bnF...@uni-berlin.de...
> In news:YYSdnQG3aNq...@giganews.com,
> Gizmo <Gi...@home.now> typed:
> > "Kim Andrews" <som...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:4q8ko0thovfdo9ali...@4ax.com...
> >>
> >> So, how do folks feel about tunes embedded in listings. A good thing?
> >> A bad thing? The very work of the devil?
> >
> > Whether it be an eBay listing or a web site, I just click straight
> > out. They take tackiness to a whole new level
>
> If you think that's bad you should see this one I designed for a client :)
> www.cheapaschips.cc
ouch !!
Gizmo
"Charlie Farley" <any...@anywhere.co.uk> wrote in message
news:2uv361F...@uni-berlin.de...
> Gizmo wrote:
> >
> > I actually quite like the art.
>
> Try This:)
>
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=1277&item=5532678076&rd=1
lol :oŞ
Art is in the eye of the beholder ;o)
Amanda Angelika
fishpock <fish...@fishpock.venus.invalid> typed:
Yes but if you take a look at my self portrait on the About me page of Ebid
you will see, that I can paint in a variety of different styles. :)
Gran
<manic...@hotmail.com> tickled the keyboard to say:
>In news:Vptid.6939$up1....@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk,
>fishpock <fish...@fishpock.venus.invalid> typed:
>> In news:pKmdnZOi9P0...@eclipse.net.uk, Vass wrote:
>>
>>> "fishpock" <fish...@fishpock.venus.invalid> wrote in message
>>> news:Wmoid.6636$up1....@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk...
>>>> Can anyone explain the difference in pixel sizes between these
>>>> auctions?
>>>>
>>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3758803357
>>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3759165960
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> 2 diff pictures, one with yellow in the middle, one with blue
>>> whats your point ?
>>
>> I just wondered which ones were the PAL pixels, and which were NTSC.
>>
>> I was also wondering, in the terms of this post
>> www.google.co.uk/groups?selm=2svfn5F1pq2aqU1%40uni-berlin.de
>> whether these pixels
>>
>http://sumo.ebid.co.uk/perl/objects/auction.cgi?auction=1085530793-11842-0&mo=auction#pic
>> have been blended, or whether the artist is on drugs.
>
>Yes but if you take a look at my self portrait on the About me page of Ebid
>you will see, that I can paint in a variety of different styles. :)
So can I but it depends where they put the numbers.
Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat
> In news:2uv0lmF...@uni-berlin.de,
> Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat <m...@privacy.net> typed:
> > "Grimly Curmudgeon" <grimlycur...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> > news:negko0tm7pk199csq...@4ax.com...
> >> It was somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
> >> drugs began to take hold. I remember Kim Andrews
> >> <som...@hotmail.com> saying something like:
> >>
> >>> So, how do folks feel about tunes embedded in listings. A good
> >>> thing? A bad thing? The very work of the devil?
> >>
> >> A fart from the arse of Auld Nick himself. Along with those utterly
> >> naff mouse trails.
> >
> > Oh yes - the bane of the visually impaired they are, totally bloody
> > confusing.
> >
> > Also dark purple text on black background. Argh.
>
> You need a better monitor. :)
I have a very good crt one and a tft laptop but actually I didn't even look
at your page - I was speaking in general.
> No black or purple pigments were used. The
> painting is predominantly Ultramarine Blue with a touch Phthalocyanine
blue
> :) If you are seeing purple and black then your hue and gamma settings are
> wrong.
>
> Saying that I tend to use Mac gamma settings on my monitor because I also
do
> design work for print, and find this better. However I rarely see poor
> colour rendition with other people's images on eBay so the colour
rendition
> of my monitor must be quite accurate and consistant.
>
> I'm not visually impaired. In fact colour blindness used to be tested on
> entry to art college. I don't have any form of colour blindness. In fact
for
> my representational work I have been called "an accurate colourist" by
> critics in the press. So I know there is no problem on that score.
>
> You need a better monitor, or need to learn about gamma correction. Purple
> and Black!? ROFL!
>
See above. As digital photography is one of my hobbies despite being legally
blind I can tell you I certainly do not need a better montior or to learn
about gamma settings. Should I have actully looked at your page rather than
having spoken generally I'm sure my monitors would have displayed the
colours perfectly.
Rachael
Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat
> On Thu, 4 Nov 2004 16:24:56 -0000, "Amanda Angelika"
> <manic...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> >
> >I'm not visually impaired.
>
> "It's not always about you."
>
Rachael
Penny
>On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 12:19:16 +0000, Penny <sp...@labyrinth.freeuk.com>
>wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 04 Nov 2004 11:27:50 GMT, fishpock scrawled in the dust...
>>
>>>Can anyone explain the difference in pixel sizes between these auctions?
>>>
>>>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3758803357
>>>http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3759165960
>>>
>>
>>One image fills more of the width of the box than the other but neither
>>fills it completely.
>
>I only went to the first one, and I didn't stay long enough to look at
>the pictures... the tune, the tune! Aaargggh!!
Tune? I didn't get a tune.
><ahem>
>
>Sorry, I'm better now. :o)
>
>So, how do folks feel about tunes embedded in listings. A good thing?
>A bad thing? The very work of the devil?
I hate them.
--
Penny
listen: there's a hell of a good universe next door; let's go
e. e. cummings
Grimly Curmudgeon
<manic...@hotmail.com> saying something like:
>Yes but if you take a look at my self portrait on the About me page of Ebid
>you will see, that I can paint in a variety of different styles. :)
Ah, you do realism too. I can't be bothered with coloured blobs. Got any
samples of other stuff on a website?
Rob Morley
fish...@fishpock.venus.invalid says...
> Can anyone explain the difference in pixel sizes between these auctions?
>
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3758803357
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3759165960
>
really do justice to the full richness and subtlety of real paint."
I looked for subtlety and richness in those pieces, but couldn't see any
- must be my monitor.
"Normally retails for over £450"
I tried to think of something that would express how I feel about this,
but words fail me :-0
fishpock
wrote:
> In article <Wmoid.6636$up1....@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
> "fishpock" fish...@fishpock.venus.invalid says...
>> Can anyone explain the difference in pixel sizes between these
>> auctions?
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3758803357
>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3759165960
>>
> "Digital colours may vary slightly on different monitors and don't
> really do justice to the full richness and subtlety of real paint."
>
> I looked for subtlety and richness in those pieces, but couldn't see
> any
> - must be my monitor.
I think the richness and subtlety must be in the smell of the paint.
Anna
> So, how do folks feel about tunes embedded in listings. A good
thing?
> A bad thing? The very work of the devil?
Bannable offence, in my opinion, along with most of the fancy
"themes" turbolister offer - I want to see detail about the stuff
I'm buying (or give plenty of info about stuff I'm selling) not a
fancy frame ...
KISS
--
Anna
Amanda Angelika
Grimly Curmudgeon <grimlycur...@hotmail.com> typed:
Well I did up until a few days ago but I had it hosted on some free
Dialstart space and they have just deleted my site because I hadn't logged
into my account for like a year. I'll put up a new site at some point on my
NTL webspace, but there's nothing up at present. But I shall probably
publicise it a bit more once it's back up and I'm happy with it, so watch
this space as they say :)
Grimly Curmudgeon
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Amanda Angelika"
<manic...@hotmail.com> saying something like:
>> Ah, you do realism too. I can't be bothered with coloured blobs. Got
>> any samples of other stuff on a website?
>
>Well I did up until a few days ago but I had it hosted on some free
>Dialstart space and they have just deleted my site because I hadn't logged
>into my account for like a year. I'll put up a new site at some point on my
>NTL webspace, but there's nothing up at present. But I shall probably
>publicise it a bit more once it's back up and I'm happy with it, so watch
>this space as they say :)
Will do. Drop me some 50k samples if you can be arsed - grimly address
is valid but limited in mailbox size.
Amanda Angelika
Rob Morley <nos...@ntlworld.com> typed:
> In article <Wmoid.6636$up1....@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
> "fishpock" fish...@fishpock.venus.invalid says...
>> Can anyone explain the difference in pixel sizes between these
>> auctions?
>>
>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3758803357
>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3759165960
>>
> "Digital colours may vary slightly on different monitors and don't
> really do justice to the full richness and subtlety of real paint."
>
> I looked for subtlety and richness in those pieces, but couldn't see
> any - must be my monitor.
It could be, but you can't reproduce paintings, any more than you can
reproduce a live performance they are what they are.
> "Normally retails for over £450"
>
> I tried to think of something that would express how I feel about
> this, but words fail me :-0
Well if I had it professionally framed ( cost £30) put it in a London art
Gallery (£100 transport costs) allowed a profit margin for the time actually
painting it say (£50), one would be talking £180. Galleries add at least 50%
commission so we now have £360 add 17.5% VAT and we get £423. The costs
might be distributed a bit differently but in the real world you would be
looking at a retail or gallery price of at least £400 to £450 for a painting
of this size.
There isn't any BS involved there, I have sold paintings for those sort of
prices. I can keep prices rock bottom on eBay because there are few
overheads. Just because it happens to be cheap doesn't mean it's rubbish
(though that may be a matter of taste). It means you are getting a bargain
price. And unlike most consumer trash, art actually maintains it's value.
But if people are not educated to understand or appreciate art, have never
actually visited a proper art gallery in their lives, and are stupid enough
to think ignorance is a virtue, it isn't really my problem. It is their
impoverishment. And I'm not being elitist, since everyone of normal
intelligence has the opportunity to educate themselves and appreciate the
finer things of life. Ignorance is not a virtue.
Amanda Angelika
Grimly Curmudgeon <grimlycur...@hotmail.com> typed:
Yes OK :) But I should be able to retrieve some parts of my old Website
since I have a complete copy on my computer. I want to redesign the whole
site now really, but I could retrive the gallery section and put it up and
send you a link, which would probably be easier, the images are not
particularly large, because the site was designed to work on a 56k modem :)
Amanda Angelika
fishpock <fish...@fishpock.venus.invalid> typed:
> I think the richness and subtlety must be in the smell of the paint.
Acrylics don't smell much. But it is one of the attractions of oil painting,
particularly when using genuine distilled spirits of Turpentine :)
Grimly Curmudgeon
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Amanda Angelika"
<manic...@hotmail.com> saying something like:
>> Will do. Drop me some 50k samples if you can be arsed - grimly address
>> is valid but limited in mailbox size.
>
>Yes OK :) But I should be able to retrieve some parts of my old Website
>since I have a complete copy on my computer. I want to redesign the whole
>site now really, but I could retrive the gallery section and put it up and
>send you a link,
OK, ta.
ThePunisher
>> news:4q8ko0thovfdo9ali...@4ax.com...
>>>
>>> So, how do folks feel about tunes embedded in listings. A good
>>> thing? A bad thing? The very work of the devil?
>>
>> out. They take tackiness to a whole new level
>
> If you think that's bad you should see this one I designed for a
> client :) www.cheapaschips.cc
I see no design.
--
ThePunisher
ThePunisher
>
> But if people are not educated to understand or appreciate art, it isn't
really my problem.
>
Oh dear.
--
ThePunisher
Bert Root
> Oh dear.
Well said that man. So many 'artists' these days have disappeared so far up
their own arses that they wouldn't have a clue about art if it slapped them
in the face and judging by the bobbins on sale here this is one example.
And before you start with the "Well let's see you do better" you are quite
welcome to check my bog roll before I flush it.
Primary colours are for the stimulation of early infants. Realise it.
Gran
<manic...@hotmail.com> tickled the keyboard to say:
>In news:MPG.1bf4a7462...@news.individual.net,
>Rob Morley <nos...@ntlworld.com> typed:
>> In article <Wmoid.6636$up1....@text.news.blueyonder.co.uk>,
>> "fishpock" fish...@fishpock.venus.invalid says...
>>> Can anyone explain the difference in pixel sizes between these
>>> auctions?
>>>
>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3758803357
>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3759165960
>>>
>> "Digital colours may vary slightly on different monitors and don't
>> really do justice to the full richness and subtlety of real paint."
>>
>> I looked for subtlety and richness in those pieces, but couldn't see
>> any - must be my monitor.
>
>It could be, but you can't reproduce paintings, any more than you can
>reproduce a live performance they are what they are.
>
>> "Normally retails for over £450"
>>
>> I tried to think of something that would express how I feel about
>> this, but words fail me :-0
>
>Well if I had it professionally framed ( cost £30) put it in a London art
>Gallery (£100 transport costs) allowed a profit margin for the time actually
>painting it say (£50), one would be talking £180. Galleries add at least 50%
>commission so we now have £360
Guess math isn't your strong point? 180 X 1.5 = ?????
>add 17.5% VAT and we get £423. The costs
>might be distributed a bit differently but in the real world you would be
>looking at a retail or gallery price of at least £400 to £450 for a painting
>of this size.
>
>There isn't any BS involved there, I have sold paintings for those sort of
>prices. I can keep prices rock bottom on eBay because there are few
>overheads. Just because it happens to be cheap doesn't mean it's rubbish
>(though that may be a matter of taste). It means you are getting a bargain
>price. And unlike most consumer trash, art actually maintains it's value.
>But if people are not educated to understand or appreciate art, have never
>actually visited a proper art gallery in their lives, and are stupid enough
>to think ignorance is a virtue, it isn't really my problem.
OOooooOOOOoooooo .... do I hear the sound of an empty vessel?
> It is their
>impoverishment. And I'm not being elitist, since everyone of normal
>intelligence has the opportunity to educate themselves and appreciate the
>finer things of life. Ignorance is not a virtue.
Amanda, whilst I may not appreciate your 'art' I do applaud your
flexibility. It can't be easy keeping your nose in the air and your
head up your ar*se whilst opening your mouth and putting your foot in
it all at the same time.
However, for sheer entertainment value and lessons in 'how not to'
you take some beating.
--
Failure is not an option, it comes bundled with the software
Gran.....
Amanda Angelika
ThePunisher <thepu...@ntlworld.com> typed:
> Amanda Angelika wrote:
>>
>> But if people are not educated to understand or appreciate art, it
>> isn't really my problem.
>>
>
> Oh dear.
It's true there's plenty of opportunity for people to educate themselves
about art. Most major towns and cities in this country have an art gallery
and a public library all funded by our rates and taxes, entry to many
galleries is free. Also the internet is absolutely choch full of free
information. If people can't be bothered to visit art galleries and read
about things that's up to them but it's their loss, there is no excuse for
ignorance. it's nothing to brag about, it just means people are stupid.
Utterly stupid really, I mean it beggars belief that people brag about
ignorance as if it were some 19th Century badge of social class when it's
their money (i.e taxes) that funds many of these things.
Cerian
<abg...@hotmail.com> writes
>Amanda, whilst I may not appreciate your 'art' I do applaud your
>flexibility. It can't be easy keeping your nose in the air and your
>head up your ar*se whilst opening your mouth and putting your foot in
>it all at the same time.
ROFLMAO and I mean that. So much so that it started me off coughing
again :(
--
Cerian
Amanda Angelika
Bert Root <bertroo...@dsl.pipex.com> typed:
> Prior to the stampede ThePunisher tryped
>
>> Oh dear.
>
> Well said that man. So many 'artists' these days have disappeared so
> far up their own arses that they wouldn't have a clue about art if it
> slapped them in the face and judging by the bobbins on sale here this
> is one example.
People buy them, who cares :)
> And before you start with the "Well let's see you do better" you are
> quite welcome to check my bog roll before I flush it.
>
> Primary colours are for the stimulation of early infants. Realise it.
Yes you're probably right...
But if it isn't bold and colourful it won't look very good in an eBay
thumbnail. The nature of eBay itself dictates what sort of art sells best in
that marketplace. And unless you stimulate the eye of the buyer you won't
sell. Ultimately the same rules apply to attracting the eye of an adult as
they do to a tiny baby. Why do you think eBay uses primary colours in it's
logo? This is because every designer knows the difference between a baby and
an adult is an adult has a credit card LOL
Amanda Angelika
Gran <abg...@hotmail.com> typed:
Well it's quite easy my paintings sell. Some people obviously like them. I
have paintings all over the world. To some degree like any creative person I
have the ability to create wealth out of thin air. It doesn't surprise me
that some people are going to be very very jealous and consequently are
going to slag my work off. It doesn't hurt my feelings, in fact if anything
I find it quite flattering and ego boosting. What I do find upsetting about
it though is people make such fools of themselves, and I find that
disappointing.
ThePunisher
>> flexibility. It can't be easy keeping your nose in the air and your
>> head up your ar*se whilst opening your mouth and putting your foot in
>> it all at the same time.
>
> Well it's quite easy my paintings sell. Some people obviously like
> them. I have paintings all over the world. To some degree like any
> creative person I have the ability to create wealth out of thin air.
> It doesn't surprise me that some people are going to be very very
> jealous and consequently are going to slag my work off. It doesn't
> hurt my feelings, in fact if anything I find it quite flattering and
> ego boosting. What I do find upsetting about it though is people make
> such fools of themselves, and I find that disappointing.
Yes I'm so very very jealous that I can't paint coloured blocks (normal
retail price £450 yours for only £4.99) and sell them to idiots on ebay.
--
ThePunisher
Gran
<manic...@hotmail.com> tickled the keyboard to say:
>In news:paeno0h0mrg1kpo1j...@4ax.com,
>Gran <abg...@hotmail.com> typed:
>>
>> Amanda, whilst I may not appreciate your 'art' I do applaud your
>> flexibility. It can't be easy keeping your nose in the air and your
>> head up your ar*se whilst opening your mouth and putting your foot in
>> it all at the same time.
>
>Well it's quite easy my paintings sell. Some people obviously like them. I
>have paintings all over the world. To some degree like any creative person I
>have the ability to create wealth out of thin air. It doesn't surprise me
>that some people are going to be very very jealous and consequently are
>going to slag my work off. It doesn't hurt my feelings, in fact if anything
>I find it quite flattering and ego boosting. What I do find upsetting about
>it though is people make such fools of themselves, and I find that
>disappointing.
Oh *do* keep it up .... LOLOLOLOLOLOL .................
Anna
>
> Well it's quite easy my paintings sell. Some people obviously
like them.
And Thomas Kinkade prints sell in their thousands. Doesn't make it
art.
If one produces stuff just because one thinks it will sell, rather
than because it's vital to one's spiritual and creative being,
doesn't that actually cheapen the whole experience, both for
artist and purchaser?
--
Anna
Amanda Angelika
Anna <anna....@virgin.net> typed:
> Amanda Angelika <manic...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:2v250mF...@uni-berlin.de...
>>
>> Well it's quite easy my paintings sell. Some people obviously like
>> them.
>
> And Thomas Kinkade prints sell in their thousands. Doesn't make it
> art.
It depends if he believes in it I suppose. It doesn't have to be great to be
art, and although I had never heard of the guy before you mentioned him,
from what I can see he's not all bad, he know's a bit about colour and
light, even if his subject matter is corny. Good luck to the guy.
> If one produces stuff just because one thinks it will sell, rather
> than because it's vital to one's spiritual and creative being,
> doesn't that actually cheapen the whole experience, both for
> artist and purchaser?
Yes, But I enjoy doing my abstracts, line colour and shape is always fresh
and new. I enjoy painting, and there is a market on eBay for the sort of
thing I like doing. But I don't want to keep it, once I completed a painting
I want it out my house on someone's wall giving someone pleasure and
enjoyment, and I need money in my bank account to do more, selling is
satisfying.
Rob Morley
manic...@hotmail.com says...
> In news:109967226...@despina.uk.clara.net,
> ThePunisher <thepu...@ntlworld.com> typed:
> > Amanda Angelika wrote:
> >>
> >> But if people are not educated to understand or appreciate art, it
> >> isn't really my problem.
> >>
> >
> > Oh dear.
>
> It's true there's plenty of opportunity for people to educate themselves
> about art. Most major towns and cities in this country have an art gallery
> and a public library all funded by our rates and taxes, entry to many
> galleries is free. Also the internet is absolutely choch full of free
> information. If people can't be bothered to visit art galleries and read
> about things that's up to them but it's their loss, there is no excuse for
> ignorance. it's nothing to brag about, it just means people are stupid.
> Utterly stupid really, I mean it beggars belief that people brag about
> ignorance as if it were some 19th Century badge of social class when it's
> their money (i.e taxes) that funds many of these things.
>
better.
Rob Morley
manic...@hotmail.com says...
<snip>
> I find it quite flattering and ego boosting. What I do find upsetting about
> it though is people make such fools of themselves, and I find that
> disappointing.
>
suppose.
Amanda Angelika
Rob Morley <nos...@ntlworld.com> typed:
Probably not if you don't like something, but a painting doesn't have to be
a picture of something any more than a flower has to represent a tree.
Colour shape and line are attractive in their own right if that were not so
we would not appreciate natural things, which also have a form and structure
pleasing to the human eye. We all appreciate abstraction in one form or
another in the form and design of consumer goods, even if it means liking
one type of car better than another, so why does a painting have to be a
picture of something?
fishpock
> Well it's quite easy my paintings sell. Some people obviously like
> them. I have paintings all over the world. To some degree like any
> creative person I have the ability to create wealth out of thin air.
> It doesn't surprise me that some people are going to be very very
> jealous and consequently are going to slag my work off. It doesn't
> hurt my feelings, in fact if anything I find it quite flattering and
> ego boosting. What I do find upsetting about it though is people make
> such fools of themselves, and I find that disappointing.
You make paintings that would disappoint the parents of most
5-year-olds. Other people give you money for them - I just can't
understand why fools disappoint you - aren't they essential to your
income?
Rob Morley
Amanda Angelika
You basically agreed with "fishpock" and condemned my paintings as rubbish
off - hand.
The thing is I'm a fully qualified internationally selling professional
artist, when it comes abstract painting, such things as composition, colour
harmony, pictorial balance etc I know my stuff, that's my job, and in terms
of art I am trained to the same sort of level as a doctor or solicitor would
be trained in their professions.
When someone comes along and condemns your work as rubbish in a totally
off-handed way as if were an accepted fact based on popularly held
misconceptions and ignorance, one gets the distinct impression one is
dealing with a bunch of idiots, who wouldn't know a piece of art from the
back end of bus in any case.
I wasting my time here really.
Gran
<manic...@hotmail.com> tickled the keyboard to say:
>
>The thing is I'm a fully qualified internationally selling professional
>artist, when it comes abstract painting, such things as composition, colour
>harmony, pictorial balance etc I know my stuff, that's my job, and in terms
>of art I am trained to the same sort of level as a doctor or solicitor would
>be trained in their professions.
>
>When someone comes along and condemns your work as rubbish in a totally
>off-handed way as if were an accepted fact based on popularly held
>misconceptions and ignorance, one gets the distinct impression one is
>dealing with a bunch of idiots, who wouldn't know a piece of art from the
>back end of bus in any case.
>
>I wasting my time here really.
Amanda - I originally *thought* you were enjoying a rather cleverly
disguised almost witty semi-trolling experience, but now, with growing
horror, I have the feeling you're actually serious.
Good grief.
And yes, I think I agree with your last line of comment above. So, in
my best uneducated and ignorant manner I cheerily say:
"Don't let the door bang yer bum on the way out."
Bert Root
> I wasting my time here really.
Good job you are 'arty'(?) because your english is attrocious. FFS if you
are an internationally renowned artist what the hell are you doing selling
your crap on eBay? Feeding an addiction to hypnotics or hallucinogenics I
think.
Stop taking yourself so damned seriously, noone else does.
Bert Root
> But if it isn't bold and colourful it won't look very good in an eBay
> thumbnail. The nature of eBay itself dictates what sort of art sells
> best in that marketplace. And unless you stimulate the eye of the
Stimulte the eye and not the imagination eh?
ThePunisher
>
> The thing is I'm a fully qualified internationally selling
> professional artist,
I just burnt my original Van Gogh 'Starry night' and Da Vinci's 'Last
Supper'
because, after all. they weren't fully qualified like you are.
> and in terms of art I am trained to the same sort of
> level as a doctor or solicitor would be trained in their professions.
Wow!!! I think I hear Christies and Sothebys calling.
> one gets the distinct impression
> one is dealing with a bunch of idiots, who wouldn't know a piece of
> art from the back end of bus in any case.
Now you're saying the back end of a bus can't be art? tell that to the Tate.
> I wasting my time here really.
Yes, you are, take your paint and suff down to the local kids nursery,
they will put it to better use.
--
ThePunisher
Amanda Angelika
Bert Root <bertroo...@dsl.pipex.com> typed:
> Prior to the stampede Amanda Angelika tryped
>
>> But if it isn't bold and colourful it won't look very good in an eBay
>> thumbnail. The nature of eBay itself dictates what sort of art sells
>> best in that marketplace. And unless you stimulate the eye of the
>
> Stimulte the eye and not the imagination eh?
The soul needs windows. :)
Amanda Angelika
Gran <abg...@hotmail.com> typed:
> On Sat, 6 Nov 2004 16:11:30 -0000, "Amanda Angelika"
> <manic...@hotmail.com> tickled the keyboard to say:
>
>>
>> The thing is I'm a fully qualified internationally selling
>> professional artist, when it comes abstract painting, such things as
>> composition, colour harmony, pictorial balance etc I know my stuff,
>> that's my job, and in terms of art I am trained to the same sort of
>> level as a doctor or solicitor would be trained in their professions.
>>
>> When someone comes along and condemns your work as rubbish in a
>> totally off-handed way as if were an accepted fact based on
>> popularly held misconceptions and ignorance, one gets the distinct
>> impression one is dealing with a bunch of idiots, who wouldn't know
>> a piece of art from the back end of bus in any case.
>>
>> I wasting my time here really.
>
> Amanda - I originally *thought* you were enjoying a rather cleverly
> disguised almost witty semi-trolling experience, but now, with growing
> horror, I have the feeling you're actually serious.
>
> Good grief.
Well of course I take my art seriously I have no right *not* to, I'm not
some self appointed artist with an over inflated ego, I have professional
qualifications and people have invested their money in my art. That is a
serious business. If people wish to question my professional competance in a
non-constuctive way without any form of intellectual or analyitical
foundation to their oppinion, it becomes obvious the sort of people one is
dealing with.
If this wasn't Usenet and I was involved any other proffession, legal or
medical for example I would be threatening to sue for libel. People should
consider themselves lucky to be able to slag of art and artists and get away
with merely being called stupid.
Amanda Angelika
ThePunisher <thepu...@ntlworld.com> typed:
> Amanda Angelika wrote:
>>
>> The thing is I'm a fully qualified internationally selling
>> professional artist,
>
> I just burnt my original Van Gogh 'Starry night' and Da Vinci's 'Last
> Supper'
> because, after all. they weren't fully qualified like you are.
Well actually that's not true at all. Van Gogh and Leonardo Da Vinci were
formally trained.
>> and in terms of art I am trained to the same sort of
>> level as a doctor or solicitor would be trained in their professions.
>
> Wow!!! I think I hear Christies and Sothebys calling.
Well I am a listed artist which means in time my work will have a market
value and could very well go though such places. Actually bearing in mind I
knocked out a very high quality fake Francesco Guardi once back in the 80s
knowing antique dealers, some of my work may already have been through
Sotherbys LOL
>> one gets the distinct impression
>> one is dealing with a bunch of idiots, who wouldn't know a piece of
>> art from the back end of bus in any case.
>
> Now you're saying the back end of a bus can't be art? tell that to
> the Tate.
Only if it's in an art gallery. Mind I have been to exhibitions where I
thought the fire extiguishers were the finest peices LOL.
Bert Root
> may already have been through Sotherbys LOL
Do you mean Sothebys dear? Formally trained in what again?
Humbug
Angelika" <manic...@hotmail.com>, "I always pay it extra."
I am a qualified professional with over 26 years experience, yet in
this very group you have made out that I know less than you about a
fundamental aspect of my field.
I have never called you stupid, though.
--
Humbug
Gran
Oh look, you managed it again! Responded in a manner which suggests
you either didn't read fully or failed to understand what was posted.
I'm sure you're serious about your work - fair enough - that's your
choice. I don't think I've ever actually said it's crap or anything of
the sort. In fact, the knitting spider was quite cute and Top of the
Hill 2 has a certain appeal. It's not your work I have difficulties
with, my dear, but I fear you may have spent too many hours alone in
the garret. Or is it an ivory tower?
Come down to ground level - once you get your head out of the clouds
it's quite a pleasant view.
Bradley Bogbrush
>
> If this wasn't Usenet and I was involved any other proffession, legal or
> medical for example I would be threatening to sue for libel. People should
> consider themselves lucky to be able to slag of art and artists and get
> away
> with merely being called stupid.
>
So the statement "In my opinion Amanda Angelika is stupid" is not libellous.
The statement "Amanda Angelika is stupid" can be libel, but I have never
said that, oh no, would not even think of saying it.
Rob Morley
manic...@hotmail.com says...<snip>
> > Where did you get the idea that I have a problem with abstract art?
>
> You basically agreed with "fishpock" and condemned my paintings as rubbish
> off - hand.
I didn't set out to agree with anyone, simply stated my own opinion
which I am quite capable of forming myself. It's possible that someone
else would see your work as worthy of something other than dismissal,
but you're not going to change my mind about it. Maybe if I could see
some more I might have a different opinion of that.
>
> The thing is I'm a fully qualified internationally selling professional
> artist, when it comes abstract painting, such things as composition, colour
> harmony, pictorial balance etc I know my stuff, that's my job, and in terms
> of art I am trained to the same sort of level as a doctor or solicitor would
> be trained in their professions.
I just glad that you're not responsible for other people's lives in the
way that they are.
>
> When someone comes along and condemns your work as rubbish in a totally
> off-handed way as if were an accepted fact based on popularly held
> misconceptions and ignorance,
Seems to me there's a hint of paranoia in that. What are these
popularly held misconceptions and ignorance? At first you seemed to
assume that I don't appreciate abstract art, what are you assuming now?
> one gets the distinct impression one is
> dealing with a bunch of idiots, who wouldn't know a piece of art from the
> back end of bus in any case.
I thought art was supposed to be attractive or amusing or interesting or
challenging or make a statement or ... something.
>
> I wasting my time here really.
>
So why bother hanging around?
fishpock
> You basically agreed with "fishpock" and condemned my paintings as
> rubbish off - hand.
>
> The thing is I'm a fully qualified internationally selling
> professional artist, when it comes abstract painting, such things as
> composition, colour harmony, pictorial balance etc I know my stuff,
> that's my job, and in terms of art I am trained to the same sort of
> level as a doctor or solicitor would be trained in their professions.
Yes that's right, of course you are. The only difference being that
someone qualified in medicine, would know how to extract themselves from
their own arse.
Bert Root
> Yes that's right, of course you are. The only difference being that
> someone qualified in medicine, would know how to extract themselves
> from their own arse.
Class! :-D
No responses so far today. Must be having a creative moment, this months
maybe?
Amanda Angelika
Humbug <hum...@tofee.net> typed:
Well I don't think people are stupid either. The main reason why people have
difficulties understanding art IOW with visual literacy, is poor education,
and that's the fault of the government. I mean people leave school with the
education and brainwashing the state dishes out.
Art education is given fairly low priority after about age 12. and is
optional as an examination subject. But even then the sort of art education
dished out in school is heavily regimented (geared up to pass exams) and
somewhat limited in terms of helping kids think for themselves and interpret
the world around them.
The problem with that is many otherwise intelligent people leave school with
very little knowledge or understanding of a whole means of communication.
Personally I think that's a shame. Because art isn't just about painting
pretty pictures. Art and design can be seen in practically every facet of
the human created world, it's powerful and all pervasive and controls our
minds. Art and design is central to effective advertising and advertising
is about selling stuff. It's the power that can make a person buy your
product instead of the next product. It is the power of seduction.
It does seem somewhat crazy therefore that in a newsgroup full of people,
many of whom are supposedly interested in selling stuff on eBay and one
imagines elsewhere on the Internet to, through a medium which is heavily
visual in nature, would pride themselves in their ignorance about art and
design. I don't really wish to offend anyone but I'm afraid that does seem
stupid to me. But I don't think people are stupid, but it certainly seems a
stupid attitude.
Gran
>Well ......
<<<SNIP>>
> attitude.
After having read so many posts that start 'Well' (like 'Well ... ')
I've decided I did make a mistake and AA is not a clever, interesting
or amusing troll but someone or something else on who (whom?) I have
no more time to waste. See ... I am an ignoramus wot dun know who and
whom.
I have now blatted it into obscurity - I dun have to read what it
thinks it has to say, nor its plaintive bleatings, nor its bloated
opinions.
Ahhhh, peace be on you, bruvver and sister.
Bert Root
> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3758803357
Sorry but after partaking in an intelligent discussion about Amandas 'art' I
thought I'd have a look at old listings by her. I must say I pissed myself
to find that some poor bugger paid a whole £6.51 for this masterpiece.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60438&item=3755001338
and £5.19 for its brother
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60438&item=3755001518
Poor fecker must be unable to have kids to generate this sort of pap.
Humbug
<abg...@hotmail.com>, "I always pay it extra."
>Ahhhh, peace be on you, bruvver and sister.
Exactly so.
--
Humbug (a Hatter)
Charlie Farley
Hi Bert
The people who paid these amounts must 'value' the paintings at least
to that amount, or maybe more if they had a higher proxy.
Frightening - but that's 'taste' for you. Maybe we should add 'Amanda'
to the many things already prohibited by eBay?
But I don't think you will ever get eBay to cut out the mountains of
tatty 'poundstretcher' crap that gets listed every day in its
millions. So unless you want them policed you'll have to put up with
Amanda who is firmly in the crapbucket school of art :)
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Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat
"Bert Root" <bertroo...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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> Prior to the stampede fishpock tryped
>
> > http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3758803357
>
> Sorry but after partaking in an intelligent discussion about Amandas 'art'
I
> thought I'd have a look at old listings by her. I must say I pissed myself
> to find that some poor bugger paid a whole £6.51 for this masterpiece.
>
>
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60438&item=3755001338
>
Rachael
Amanda Angelika
Bert Root <bertroo...@dsl.pipex.com> typed:
> Poor fecker must be unable to have kids to generate this sort of pap.
I'm sure you'll enjoy a holiday in Iraq, Send us a video.
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Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat <m...@privacy.net> typed:
Yes, I know the one you mean. I didn't use it, I don't actually have a copy
on Win 2K, So I painted it from imagination, but I certainly got some
inspiration from it :)
Amanda Angelika
Charlie Farley <any...@anywhere.co.uk> typed:
Well what do you expect for 10 - 15 minutes work the Mona Lisa? LOL
Amanda Angelika
Amanda Angelika <manic...@hotmail.com> typed:
> In news:2v7sd7F...@uni-berlin.de,
> Rachael of Nex, the Wiccan Rat <m...@privacy.net> typed:
>> "Bert Root" <bertroo...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
>> news:418ea230$0$10378$cc9e...@news-text.dial.pipex.com...
>>> Prior to the stampede fishpock tryped
>>>
>>>> http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=3758803357
>>>
>>> Sorry but after partaking in an intelligent discussion about Amandas
>>> 'art' I thought I'd have a look at old listings by her. I must say I
>>> pissed myself to find that some poor bugger paid a whole £6.51 for
>>> this masterpiece.
>>>
>>>
>>
>
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=60438&item=3755001338
>>>
>> Aaaah, I detect hints of Windows XP "Bliss" wallpaper.
>
> Yes, I know the one you mean. I didn't use it, I don't actually have
> a copy on Win 2K, So I painted it from imagination, but I certainly
> got some inspiration from it :)
Actually talking of "Bliss" I just found this version which I thought quite
good :)
http://www.radiofreebabylon.com/RFB%20Images/bliss.jpg
Bert Root
> I'm sure you'll enjoy a holiday in Iraq, Send us a video.
Sorry petal am missing this ones relevance.
Bert Root
> Actually talking of "Bliss" I just found this version which I thought
> quite good :)
> http://www.radiofreebabylon.com/RFB%20Images/bliss.jpg
FFS you really do live in a dream world don't you. You thought this was
quite good?
Amanda Angelika
Bert Root <bertroo...@dsl.pipex.com> typed:
> Prior to the stampede Amanda Angelika tryped
>
>> I'm sure you'll enjoy a holiday in Iraq, Send us a video.
>
> Sorry petal am missing this ones relevance.
Never mind Iraqi reality TV is over a lot of people's heads.
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Bert Root <bertroo...@dsl.pipex.com> typed:
> Prior to the stampede Amanda Angelika tryped
>
>> Actually talking of "Bliss" I just found this version which I thought
>> quite good :)
>> http://www.radiofreebabylon.com/RFB%20Images/bliss.jpg
>
> FFS you really do live in a dream world don't you. You thought this
> was quite good?
There's a certain irony there, what with the Enid Blighton children and the
cutsy kite which on closer inspection turns out to be a Stealth bomber.
Bearing in mind the Microsoft Corporation brought us this iconic image,
whose copyrights and pattents are protected by these very weapons of mass
destruction which the picture shows. A dreamworld it is not.
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Bert Root
> In news:418f5516$0$16437$cc9e...@news-text.dial.pipex.com,
> Bert Root <bertroo...@dsl.pipex.com> typed:
>> Prior to the stampede Amanda Angelika tryped
>>
>>> I'm sure you'll enjoy a holiday in Iraq, Send us a video.
>>
>> Sorry petal am missing this ones relevance.
>
> Never mind Iraqi reality TV is over a lot of people's heads.
Iraqui reality TV? You really have lost the plot.
I'm gonna put this one to bed as you are just tring to be clever and failing
miserably.
Enjoy your business.
Bert Root
> In news:418f55c8$0$1397$cc9e...@news-text.dial.pipex.com,
> Bert Root <bertroo...@dsl.pipex.com> typed:
>> Prior to the stampede Amanda Angelika tryped
>>
>>> Actually talking of "Bliss" I just found this version which I
>>> thought quite good :)
>>> http://www.radiofreebabylon.com/RFB%20Images/bliss.jpg
>>
>> FFS you really do live in a dream world don't you. You thought this
>> was quite good?
>
> There's a certain irony there, what with the Enid Blighton children
> and the cutsy kite which on closer inspection turns out to be a
> Stealth bomber.
>
> Bearing in mind the Microsoft Corporation brought us this iconic
> image, whose copyrights and pattents are protected by these very
> weapons of mass destruction which the picture shows. A dreamworld it
> is not.
My last word on this issue? Get a f*cking spell checker or go back to school
and do something academic.
Grimly Curmudgeon
drugs began to take hold. I remember "Amanda Angelika"
<manic...@hotmail.com> saying something like:
>Actually talking of "Bliss" I just found this version which I thought quite
>good :)
>http://www.radiofreebabylon.com/RFB%20Images/bliss.jpg
In light of the recent 'daft-firing' excercise, in which a National
Guard pilot let rip with a 20mm cannon through a schoolhouse roof in New
Jersey, I think that's quite topical.
fishpock
> In news:418f5516$0$16437$cc9e...@news-text.dial.pipex.com,
> Bert Root <bertroo...@dsl.pipex.com> typed:
>> Prior to the stampede Amanda Angelika tryped
>>
>>> I'm sure you'll enjoy a holiday in Iraq, Send us a video.
>>
>> Sorry petal am missing this ones relevance.
>
> Never mind Iraqi reality TV is over a lot of people's heads.
You really are a sick fuck. If and when my 20-year-old neighbour
returns from his tour of duty, I'll be sure to pass on your details.
Bert Root
>> Never mind Iraqi reality TV is over a lot of people's heads.
I think what she meant to say was "The reality of Iraq on the TV is way over
my artistic little head but I'll try and be clever by referencing it in a
sentence I perceive to be an insult."
Fishpock I hope everything goes well for your neighbour.
Grimly Curmudgeon
<fish...@fishpock.venus.invalid> saying something like:
>> Never mind Iraqi reality TV is over a lot of people's heads.
>
>You really are a sick fuck. If and when my 20-year-old neighbour
>returns from his tour of duty, I'll be sure to pass on your details.
Bit of a wanker, aren't you?
Amanda Angelika
fishpock <fish...@fishpock.venus.invalid> typed:
Thanks, But men of that age usually like girls more their own age, you'll
understand when you get older. :)
Amanda Angelika
Grimly Curmudgeon <grimlycur...@hotmail.com> typed:
Hadn't heard about that, just looked it up glad to hear no one was hurt,
scary stuff though, Americans do seem to have an inordinate number of
"friendly" fire incidents. Course we get a bit of practice flying in Wales,
but not usually over Cardiff, though one of the Police helicopters crashed
into someone's semi a few years ago, and sometimes they seem to hover
dangerously low over one's roof with blazing searchlights looking in
people's backgardens, probably looking for criminals, could be a bit of
voyeurism though one never knows what the neighbours get up to LOL
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wrote:
No, what makes you say that? Oh yes, the fact that you say it to half
the posters on Usenet.
Grimly Curmudgeon
drugs began to take hold. I remember "fishpock"
<fish...@fishpock.venus.invalid> saying something like:
>> Bit of a wanker, aren't you?
>
>No, what makes you say that? Oh yes, the fact that you say it to half
>the posters on Usenet.
If the cap fits, old son. I didn't know you'd been around all that much.
Got many aliases, then?