Ebay - another tax cheating company

[Timmy]

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20022365

They screw us when we sell and screw us again by not paying the UK any
tax.

[petrolcan]

In article <MPG.2aee70b73...@news.aioe.org>, Timmy says...

>
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20022365
>
> They screw us when we sell and screw us again by not paying the UK any
> tax.

*SIGH*

They did pay tax, just not very much.

At the end of the day they are doing nothing illegal. This and the
previous government knew of the issues but nobody wants to stand up and
fix the system.

What do you suggest happens?

[Timmy]

petrolcan wrote ...

Fuck it. Carry on screwing the plebs.

[petrolcan]

In article <MPG.2aee7aefa...@news.aioe.org>, Timmy says...

Is that really the best that you can come up with?

[Timmy]

I made my feelings known in the OP. Changing UK tax laws is outside of
my job description. I can do fuck all about the situation.

[petrolcan]

In article <MPG.2aee80fac...@news.aioe.org>, Timmy says...

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> petrolcan wrote ...
>
>
> > > > In article <MPG.2aee70b73...@news.aioe.org>, Timmy says...
> > > > >
> > > > > http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-20022365
> > > > >
> > > > > They screw us when we sell and screw us again by not paying the UK any
> > > > > tax.
> > > >
> > > > *SIGH*
> > > >
> > > > They did pay tax, just not very much.
> > > >
> > > > At the end of the day they are doing nothing illegal. This and the
> > > > previous government knew of the issues but nobody wants to stand up and
> > > > fix the system.
> > > >
> > > > What do you suggest happens?
> > >
> > >
> > > Fuck it. Carry on screwing the plebs.
> >
> > Is that really the best that you can come up with?
>
>
> I made my feelings known in the OP.

But got your facts wrong.

> Changing UK tax laws is outside of
> my job description. I can do fuck all about the situation.

Write to your MP. Stop using Ebay. Get a blog.

There's plenty you can do if you choose to.

[John Benn]

"petrolcan" <petr...@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.2aee77332...@news.eternal-september.org...

That's true. Perhaps the recent publicity will persuade the government to
close these ridiculous loopholes.

[petrolcan]

In article <k63l5b$m5e$1...@dont-email.me>, John Benn says...

I'll not be holding my breath,

[Niel Humphreys]

"John Benn" <MrBenn...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:k63l5b$m5e$1...@dont-email.me...

I'd much prefer the government to stop wasting our taxes on things which
have no benefit to the UK and benefit scroungers which will enable them to
lower taxes and make running a business in the UK more affordable. Maybe if
tax was reasonable and spent on the UK and it's citizens then these
companies would not have to do this.
--

Cheers
Niel H

[Willy Eckerslyke]

Niel Humphreys wrote:

> I'd much prefer the government to stop wasting our taxes on things which
> have no benefit to the UK and benefit scroungers which will enable them to
> lower taxes and make running a business in the UK more affordable. Maybe if
> tax was reasonable and spent on the UK and it's citizens then these
> companies would not have to do this.

You really think so? They don't _have_ to do it, they choose to because
it maximises their profits. And they'd still do so regardless of how the
money was spent.

[Brian Watson]

"Niel Humphreys" <a...@a.com> wrote in message
news:k65lsm$n3j$1...@dont-email.me...

> I'd much prefer the government to stop wasting our taxes on things which
> have no benefit to the UK and benefit scroungers which will enable them to
> lower taxes and make running a business in the UK more affordable. Maybe
> if tax was reasonable and spent on the UK and it's citizens then these
> companies would not have to do this.

I have just received a second "we understand you are trading on eBay..."
letter from HM tax inspectors offering me an amnesty if I 'fess up and pay
my dues on sales made.

Having told them once already in writing that I do put all such earning
through my company accounts, which I do, I'd be greatly obliged if they'd
either investigate me or fuck off and stop wasting my time with this
nonsense.

--
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."

[Dr Zoidberg]

"Niel Humphreys" <a...@a.com> wrote in message
news:k65lsm$n3j$1...@dont-email.me...

The two things aren't mutually exclusive, or even directly connected.

Even if we had a completely efficient government with almost zero
unnecessary public expenditure [1] if paying tax was still effectively a
voluntary contribution from large business they would avoid it where
possible. Doing the right thing for the good of the UK isn't going to
feature highly in their decisions


[1] And getting everyone to agree on what that is would be impossible

--
Alex

[Hankjam]

I know nothing about corp tax but I would have thought that if the
likes of Amazon, Starbucks and all were asked to pay what I imagine
smaller companies in their fields have to, it would be unlikely that
they would pack up their kit bag and go somewhere else... unless the
jobs they have in distribution centres would "balance" any tax hike...

I would be interested to know how loopholes are created....

Abebooks is looking like a good alternative to Amazon....

Working on electricals as I am in the market for a mobile DAB radio.
Roberts Ecologic 4 at the moment is much cheaper at Amazon than J
Lewis... but still looking.

Hj

[Apellation Controlee]

On Thu, 25 Oct 2012 17:13:31 +0100, Hankjam
<han...@yahoo.co.uk........> wrote:

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>I know nothing about corp tax but I would have thought that if the
>likes of Amazon, Starbucks and all were asked to pay what I imagine
>smaller companies in their fields have to, it would be unlikely that
>they would pack up their kit bag and go somewhere else... unless the
>jobs they have in distribution centres would "balance" any tax hike...

Keeping sufficient numbers of the population in gainful employment
(and therefore preventing them from having too much time on their
hands) is a priority.
As for packing up their kit bags, it's a global market, so they
(Amazon, Ebay et al) can operate from wherever suits them best. Did
you never buy books direct from Amazon in the US before they
established their UK operation?
And don't forget that the operational parts of a business, and its
corporate centre, don't need to be geographically close to each other.

>I would be interested to know how loopholes are created....

Loopholes are created by laws and regulation (IOW by governments).
They then just need to be found and exploited.

>Abebooks is looking like a good alternative to Amazon....

You do realise, of course that the owner of Abebooks is ... Amazon?

[Hankjam]

arrghhh..... indeed not..... there is no escape.

and what you write above does make sense.

No I didn't buy from US Amazon, slow on the uptake.

Father of friend bought camera from Amazon and only when he needed to
return it did he see it was from Hong Kong... which was painful to
ship back...

Ho and Hum

Hj

[Willy Eckerslyke]

Apellation Controlee wrote:

> You do realise, of course that the owner of Abebooks is ... Amazon?

Bugger! When did that happen?

[Apellation Controlee]

On Fri, 26 Oct 2012 08:10:13 +0100, Hankjam
<han...@yahoo.co.uk........> wrote:

>Father of friend bought camera from Amazon and only when he needed to
>return it did he see it was from Hong Kong... which was painful to
>ship back...

As with everything, there can be a downside. ;-)

In getting the goods to you, though, it's a very slick operation.

[Apellation Controlee]

Further back than you might imagine:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AbeBooks

[Willy Eckerslyke]

Thanks.
2008 - not even 5 years. I think they were the first online shop I ever
used, way back in the mists of time.