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Andy Oliver

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Mar 26, 2013, 8:19:00 AM3/26/13
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Can someone please explain why such headers as follow are in URCM messages:

X-Gradwell-Message-ID: 22741520
X-Gradwell-MongoId: 515075dd.77b2-571e-1
X-Gradwell-Forwarding-Rule: 1238298
X-Gradwell-Edge-Server: inbound-edge-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net

when ULM posts (which run on the Gradwell system) don't

Mark Goodge

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Mar 26, 2013, 3:49:50 PM3/26/13
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On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:19:00 +0000, Andy Oliver put finger to keyboard and
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Because the ulm moderation software strips out these headers, while urcm's
does not. This is simply a choice made by the respective software authors,
and has absolutely nothing at all to do with any difference in the way that
messages to the moderation software is handled upstream of them.

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Andy Oliver

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Mar 26, 2013, 4:24:50 PM3/26/13
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On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:49:50 +0000, Mark Goodge
<use...@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:

>On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:19:00 +0000, Andy Oliver put finger to keyboard and
>typed:
>
>>
>>
>>Can someone please explain why such headers as follow are in URCM messages:
>>
>>X-Gradwell-Message-ID: 22741520
>>X-Gradwell-MongoId: 515075dd.77b2-571e-1
>>X-Gradwell-Forwarding-Rule: 1238298
>>X-Gradwell-Edge-Server: inbound-edge-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net
>>
>>when ULM posts (which run on the Gradwell system) don't
>
>Because the ulm moderation software strips out these headers, while urcm's
>does not. This is simply a choice made by the respective software authors,
>and has absolutely nothing at all to do with any difference in the way that
>messages to the moderation software is handled upstream of them.
>
>Mark


Thanks, but why "Gradwell" headers? Do both systems run on Gradwell?
It is that that I find confusing as I thought that ULM did, but URCM didn't.



Mark Goodge

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Mar 26, 2013, 4:40:25 PM3/26/13
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On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:24:50 +0000, Andy Oliver put finger to keyboard and
typed:

>On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 19:49:50 +0000, Mark Goodge
><use...@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:
>
>>On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 12:19:00 +0000, Andy Oliver put finger to keyboard and
>>typed:
>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Can someone please explain why such headers as follow are in URCM messages:
>>>
>>>X-Gradwell-Message-ID: 22741520
>>>X-Gradwell-MongoId: 515075dd.77b2-571e-1
>>>X-Gradwell-Forwarding-Rule: 1238298
>>>X-Gradwell-Edge-Server: inbound-edge-1.mail.thdo.gradwell.net
>>>
>>>when ULM posts (which run on the Gradwell system) don't
>>
>>Because the ulm moderation software strips out these headers, while urcm's
>>does not. This is simply a choice made by the respective software authors,
>>and has absolutely nothing at all to do with any difference in the way that
>>messages to the moderation software is handled upstream of them.
>>
>>Mark
>
>
>Thanks, but why "Gradwell" headers? Do both systems run on Gradwell?
>It is that that I find confusing as I thought that ULM did, but URCM didn't.

Gradwell handles mail for usenet.org.uk, which is the central distribution
system for all messages to moderated groups in uk.*. The headers are added
as the messages enter the Gradwell system and thus already exist when they
are passed on to the moderation systems.

(Technically, it's possible to bypass usenet.org.uk, and thus Gradwell, and
post directly to a moderated group via the underlying submission address
rather than the public forwarding address, but in practice very few people
do).

Andy Oliver

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Mar 26, 2013, 7:55:44 PM3/26/13
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On Tue, 26 Mar 2013 20:40:25 +0000, Mark Goodge
<use...@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk> wrote:


>
>Gradwell handles mail for usenet.org.uk, which is the central distribution
>system for all messages to moderated groups in uk.*. The headers are added
>as the messages enter the Gradwell system and thus already exist when they
>are passed on to the moderation systems.
>
>(Technically, it's possible to bypass usenet.org.uk, and thus Gradwell, and
>post directly to a moderated group via the underlying submission address
>rather than the public forwarding address, but in practice very few people
>do).
>
>Mark


Excellent - thanks

Dave U. Random

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Mar 27, 2013, 12:15:50 AM3/27/13
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