2nd RFD: remove moderated newsgroup uk.local.yorkshire.moderated
han...@comp.leeds.ac.uk
2ND REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the following changes
in the uk.* Usenet hierarchy:
remove moderated newsgroup uk.local.yorkshire.moderated
Newsgroup line:
uk.local.yorkshire.moderated
*** ALL DISCUSSION MUST TAKE PLACE IN UK.NET.NEWS.CONFIG ***
This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.
Further procedural details are given below.
RATIONALE: remove uk.local.yorkshire.moderated
The group is broken - the moderation bot is buggy, there is no useful
discussion going on there, and any sensible post is immediately met by
trolling and insults.
CURRENT CHARTER: uk.local.yorkshire.moderated
(Moderated)
uk.local.yorkshire.moderated is a place for all those interested in
Yorkshire to discuss matters with a Yorkshire relevance and the world
from a Yorkshire perspective. It is also a place for people to seek
information from those who live in the county, for example someone
moving to a town may ask for advice as to the best areas to live or
someone visiting the region the best attractions, accommodation or
hostelries.
uk.local.yorkshire.moderated is a discussion group, all articles not
intended for discussion, such as advertisements with a Yorkshire
relevance and announcements of forthcoming events, other than
announcements relating directly to this newsgroup itself, must be posted
to the newsgroup uk.local.yorkshire.noticeboard and not here.
Cross-posting to more than four groups is not allowed. Cross-posting to
more than one group outside the uk.* hierarchy is not allowed.
This is a moderated group and the moderators may impose and remove
further restrictions at their discretion should they deem it necessary
for the efficient functioning of the group, provided they comply with
the group moderation policy.
Advertising is forbidden.
Binaries & Formatting
Encoded binaries (e.g. pictures, compressed files, etc.) are forbidden.
Such material belongs on a web or FTP site to which a pointer may be
posted. Posts must be readable as plain text. HTML, RTF and similarly
formatted messages may be rejected by the moderators. To see how to make
some common newsreaders comply with this, please read
<http://www.usenet.org.uk/ukpost.html>.
Messages posted to this newsgroup must not be cross-posted to more than
a TOTAL of four uk.local.* newsgroups; these may be geographically
adjacent or overlapping, or connected by the subject of the post (e.g.
"moving house from Manchester to York").
Moderation Procedure
The aim of the moderators is to provide a forum for the discussion of
Yorkshire related matters as free as possible from abuses of usenet
without limiting freedom of speech.
The moderators may use the moderation software to control or block:
* Articles cross-posted to other groups.
* Articles which they consider do not carry adequate trace information.
* Message floods.
* Articles of excessive length.
* Articles with a content type other than plain text.
They may:
* Place limits on the number of groups which may be cross-posted to.
* Limit the groups or hierarchies which may be cross-posted to.
* Limit the groups or hierarchies which followups may be set to.
* Block any articles which are not either the start of a new thread
or a follow-up to a recent article posted to the group.
* Limit the number of articles from one source posted at one time
or in a given time.
* Block articles from or via anonymous remailers, subscription
newsservers which offer anonymity to their subscribers or which
the moderators consider do not have or do not enforce an adequate
Acceptable User Policy, what the moderators believe to be open
servers, servers on ISPs which the moderators believe are being
used for a throwaway account solely for the purpose of committing
abuses of the internet.
* Block articles with an excessive line or byte count.
* Block articles which have a content type other than plain text or
have a mixed content type.
* Cancel any article which has been posted by bypassing the
moderation procedure.
Provided that:
* No article shall be rejected based on the content of the body of
the article.
* All rules applied shall apply to all posters equally, there will
be no blacklisting or whitelisting of individuals.
* No poster shall be prevented from posting via their usual
Internet Access Provider's newsserver.
Moderation Info
The current moderators are:
* Bigegg (Chief Moderator) <ulym(at)hardboiled.plus.com>
* hannah d. <hannah(at)comp.leeds.ac.uk>
Moderation submission address
uk-local-yorks...@usenet.org.uk
Moderator contact address
uk-local-yorkshire...@usenet.org.uk
END CHARTER
PROCEDURE:
This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of
the process, any potential problems with the proposal should be raised
and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 10
days, starting from when this RFD is posted to uk.net.news.announce
(i.e. until February 23rd) after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be
posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it.
Alternatively, the proposal may proceed by the fast-track method. Please
do not attempt to vote until this happens.
This RFD attempts to comply fully with the "Guidelines for Group Creation
within the UK Hierarchy" as published regularly in uk.net.news.announce
and is available from http://www.usenet.org.uk/guidelines.html (the UK
Usenet website). Please refer to this document if you have any questions
about the process.
DISTRIBUTION:
This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:
uk.net.news.announce
uk.net.news.config
uk.local.yorkshire.moderated
Proponent:
Hannah Dee <hannah(at)comp.leeds.ac.uk.invalid>
Nev Young <nevilley(at)nevilley.demon.co.uk>
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H Dee
2nd?
I must have missed the first one.
> Moderation Info
> The current moderators are:
>
> * Bigegg (Chief Moderator) <ulym(at)hardboiled.plus.com>
> * hannah d. <hannah(at)comp.leeds.ac.uk>
This is not true (I'm not a moderator).
Anyway, let the discussion commence.
.h
nev young
> In uk.net.news.config han...@comp.leeds.ac.uk wrote:
>> 2ND REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
>
> 2nd?
> I must have missed the first one.
>
>> Moderation Info
>> The current moderators are:
>>
>> * Bigegg (Chief Moderator) <ulym(at)hardboiled.plus.com>
>> * hannah d. <hannah(at)comp.leeds.ac.uk>
>
> This is not true (I'm not a moderator).
>
I just pulled the info from the website.
Had no eye dear it was out of date.
--
Nev
kat
H Dee said:
> In uk.net.news.config han...@comp.leeds.ac.uk wrote:
>>
>> 2ND REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
>
> 2nd?
> I must have missed the first one.
That's because there hasn't been a first one.
--
kat
>^..^<
Ebb Chernobyl
|2ND REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
Pathetic.
Chris Croughton
>
> In uk.net.news.config han...@comp.leeds.ac.uk wrote:
>>
>> 2ND REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
>
> 2nd?
> I must have missed the first one.
Er, no, my followup post seems to have not made it. There was some sort of
error injecting the post, and when I tried it again the software evidently
thought that it was a second RFD instead of a repeat of the first one.
>> Moderation Info
>> The current moderators are:
>>
>> * Bigegg (Chief Moderator) <ulym(at)hardboiled.plus.com>
>> * hannah d. <hannah(at)comp.leeds.ac.uk>
>
> This is not true (I'm not a moderator).
That is what it says on the website:
http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.local.yorkshire.moderated.html
I guess no one has informed Charles of any changes.
> Anyway, let the discussion commence.
Indeed.
Chris C
Wm...
t> uk.net.news.config han...@comp.leeds.ac.uk
> 2ND REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
Not important, really, that it was accidentally 2nd as ChrisC has
explained :)
>This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the following changes
>in the uk.* Usenet hierarchy:
>
> remove moderated newsgroup uk.local.yorkshire.moderated
>
>Newsgroup line:
>uk.local.yorkshire.moderated
>
>
> *** ALL DISCUSSION MUST TAKE PLACE IN UK.NET.NEWS.CONFIG ***
>
>This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time.
>Further procedural details are given below.
>
>RATIONALE: remove uk.local.yorkshire.moderated
>
>The group is broken - the moderation bot is buggy, there is no useful
>discussion going on there, and any sensible post is immediately met by
>trolling and insults.
I support this RFD; there has been some previous discussion about this
in unnc; I refer to that.
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Wm...
Reply-To: address valid for at least 7 days
Charles Lindsey
Since the keeper of the site has not been informed otherwise, it still
contains the list of moderators at the time the group was created.
In view of this RFD, it would seem best to let it stand until the whole
matter has been cleared up.
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Email: c...@clerew.man.ac.uk Snail: 5 Clerewood Ave, CHEADLE, SK8 3JU, U.K.
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Pedt
Feb 2009, Chris Croughton <ch...@keristor.net> wibbled
>On 2009-02-12, H Dee <han...@comp.leeds.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> In uk.net.news.config han...@comp.leeds.ac.uk wrote:
>>>
>>> 2ND REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
>>
>> 2nd?
>> I must have missed the first one.
>
>Er, no, my followup post seems to have not made it.
It made it to here so it is out there somewhere:
Message-ID:
<notice-uk.local.yorkshire.moderated-remove-20090212203219$28ec@gradwell.
net>
>There was some sort of
>error injecting the post, and when I tried it again the software evidently
>thought that it was a second RFD instead of a repeat of the first one.
Ah, a Cummins moment. <d&rfc>
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Pedt
uk.announce ~ moderated group to announce news / events of specific interest to
a wider uk.* readership than the group(s) which their subjects would naturally
place them. See charter at <http://www.usenet.org.uk/uk.announce.html>
Frankenstien
Ahhhemm!!
Owen Rees
<rfd2-uk.local.yorkshire.moderated-remove-20090212121118$65...@gradwell.net>:
> remove moderated newsgroup uk.local.yorkshire.moderated
I support the removal.
--
Owen Rees
[one of] my preferred email address[es] and more stuff can be
found at <http://www.users.waitrose.com/~owenrees/index.html>
Rusty_Hinge
from Owen Rees <or...@hotmail.com> contains these words:
> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:11:18 +0000, han...@comp.leeds.ac.uk wrote in
> <rfd2-uk.local.yorkshire.moderated-remove-20090212121118$65...@gradwell.net>:
> > remove moderated newsgroup uk.local.yorkshire.moderated
> I support the removal.
I don't support the removal, but I don't oppose it.
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Rusty
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paul
wrote:
>The message <7pkup457p0gbnl521...@4ax.com>
>from Owen Rees <or...@hotmail.com> contains these words:
>> On Thu, 12 Feb 2009 12:11:18 +0000, han...@comp.leeds.ac.uk wrote in
><rfd2-uk.local.yorkshire.moderated-remove-20090212121118$65...@gradwell.net>:
>
>> > remove moderated newsgroup uk.local.yorkshire.moderated
>
>> I support the removal.
>
>I don't support the removal, but I don't oppose it.
Given the moderators' earlier posts that'd be more or less my view too.
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paul (C) © 2009 is mine
Wm...
uk.net.news.config paul <use...@watman.clara.co.uk>
Are we sure who the moderators are?
I think the uncertainty lends towards removal.
bigegg
> Wed, 25 Feb 2009 15:14:43 <csnaq4t1uvoqqrpar...@4ax.com>
> uk.net.news.config paul <use...@watman.clara.co.uk>
>> Given the moderators' earlier posts that'd be more or less my view too.
>
> Are we sure who the moderators are?
>
> I think the uncertainty lends towards removal.
>
There are two moderators.
Myself
King Queen
And the modbot, written by {R}
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BigEgg