RFD: delete newsgroup uk.media.radio.local
Graham Drabble
REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD)
This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the following changes
in the uk.* Usenet hierarchy:
delete newsgroup uk.media.radio.local
Newsgroup lines:
uk.media.radio.local Local BBC, Independent and Access radio in the UK
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RATIONALE
It has long been custom within uk.* to check for groups that are not
being used and then to remove them. By doing this we keep the number of
dead groups down increasing the chances that someone stumbling across a
group will find it useful.
An analysis of the posts to uk.media.radio.local from 2009-07-01 to
2009-11-30 has shown that there there was 1 post in that period,
details of which are shown below.
Is this group being used?
Graham Drabble <usen...@drabble.me.uk>
Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:38:47 GMT
CHARTER
This group is for the discussion of programmes on local radio in the
United Kingdom. All programmes are on topic and include, but are not
limited to, programmes broadcast on;
* single Independent stations,
* single local BBC stations,
* Access radio (community radio),
* a mutiplex of stations (e.g. The Mix Network, or the BBC).
News services on these stations are also on topic.
Programmes broadcast on local BBC frequencies after shutdown (e.g. BBC
Radio Five Live) should not be discussed in this group, nor should
programmes broadcast on national radio stations. Users are advised that
there are groups for the discussion of the BBC's national radio stations.
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the process, any potential problems with the proposal should be raised
and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 10
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DISTRIBUTION:
This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups:
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uk.net.news.config
uk.media.radio.local
Proponent:
Graham Drabble <usen...@drabble.me.uk>
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Owen Rees
<usen...@drabble.me.uk> wrote in
<rfd1-uk.media.radio.local-remove-20091214211030$00...@gradwell.net>:
>An analysis of the posts to uk.media.radio.local from 2009-07-01 to
>2009-11-30 has shown that there there was 1 post in that period,
>details of which are shown below.
>
> Is this group being used?
> Graham Drabble <usen...@drabble.me.uk>
> Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:38:47 GMT
There has been a followup to that message since then that seems to me to
oppose the idea of deleting the group. It seems to me that that message
grossly underestimates what it would take to bring the group back to
life.
I support the deletion of the group.
--
Owen Rees
[one of] my preferred email address[es] and more stuff can be
found at <http://www.users.waitrose.com/~owenrees/index.html>
Molly Mockford
<kosii5hl4paii0mkq...@4ax.com>:
>There has been a followup to that message since then that seems to me to
>oppose the idea of deleting the group. It seems to me that that message
>grossly underestimates what it would take to bring the group back to
>life.
>
>I support the deletion of the group.
I followed that group for most of its life, and posted to it now and
then. I unsubscribed when it joined the choir invisibule. I've now
re-subscribed, and see no posts other than the "if we wait long enough,
they will come" reply to Graham's query.
It's dead. RIP.
--
Molly - I don't speak for the Committee. I speak for me.
Nature loves variety. Unfortunately, society hates it. (Milton
Diamond Ph.D.)
My Reply-To address *is* valid, though may not be so for ever.
Wm...
uk.net.news.config Graham Drabble <usen...@drabble.me.uk>
> delete newsgroup uk.media.radio.local
>Newsgroup lines:
>uk.media.radio.local Local BBC, Independent and Access radio in the UK
>CHARTER
>
>This group is for the discussion of programmes on local radio in the
>United Kingdom. All programmes are on topic and include, but are not
>limited to, programmes broadcast on;
>
> * single Independent stations,
>
> * single local BBC stations,
>
> * Access radio (community radio),
>
> * a mutiplex of stations (e.g. The Mix Network, or the BBC).
>
>News services on these stations are also on topic.
>
>Programmes broadcast on local BBC frequencies after shutdown (e.g. BBC
>Radio Five Live) should not be discussed in this group, nor should
>programmes broadcast on national radio stations. Users are advised that
>there are groups for the discussion of the BBC's national radio stations.
gn has 168 postings going back to Jun 2004; nothing on-topic since Feb
2008
Not sure what the group was really meant for but I find "independent"
and "community" radio stations local to me in SE London try to broadcast
over ClassicFM on 100FM, ClassicFM being a licensed independent
broadcaster and t'others not. To borrow some words from marshall
mathers ... never mind, the group is dead.
--
Wm...
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Wm...
uk.net.news.config Owen Rees <or...@hotmail.com>
>On Mon, 14 Dec 2009 21:10:30 +0000, Graham Drabble
><usen...@drabble.me.uk> wrote in
><rfd1-uk.media.radio.local-remove-20091214211030$00...@gradwell.net>:
>
>>An analysis of the posts to uk.media.radio.local from 2009-07-01 to
>>2009-11-30 has shown that there there was 1 post in that period,
>>details of which are shown below.
>>
>> Is this group being used?
>> Graham Drabble <usen...@drabble.me.uk>
>> Mon, 23 Nov 2009 21:38:47 GMT
>
>There has been a followup to that message since then that seems to me to
>oppose the idea of deleting the group. It seems to me that that message
>grossly underestimates what it would take to bring the group back to
>life.
hj may just sit there staring at empty groups all day.