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Tale

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Jan 31, 2003, 3:47:11 PM1/31/03
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Recently I've "discovered" a couple of recordings by Ewan MacColl & Isla
Cameron ("Still I Love Him" and "Geordie"). I can't seem to find much about
Isla Cameron... Anyone knows who she is, what her relation was towards Ewan
MacColl? Thanks!

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john

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Jan 31, 2003, 6:21:56 PM1/31/03
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Isla was singing around London in the late 50s. She was known as the "The
Queen of the Camdem Town labour exchange.

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The 9th Earl Of Mar

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Jan 31, 2003, 7:19:53 PM1/31/03
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She sang "Through Bushes And Through Briars" and "The Bold Grenadier" in the
film version of "Far From The Madding Crowd" - the former being rather
unconvincingly mimed by Julie Christie, tho' not as appallingly as Terence
Stamp mimed "The Jolly Tinker". ( As an aside, I could never understand
why the OST album didn't include that lovely rendition of "The Dorset Four"
busked by Gabriel Oak in the market place - it was my first hearing of the
tune and it's haunted me ever since, eventually being a significant factor
in my taking up the flute. )

She was also on screen herself in "The Prime Of Miss Jean Brodie" and
others. She's recorded with various artists, including vocals on a Martin
Carthy album, but doesn't seem to have done even one solo album that I can
find.

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Reinhard Zierke

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Feb 1, 2003, 2:30:20 AM2/1/03
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In rec.music.celtic The 9th Earl Of Mar <earl...@mar.castle.com> wrote:
> She was also on screen herself in "The Prime Of Miss Jean Brodie" and
> others. She's recorded with various artists, including vocals on a Martin
> Carthy album, but doesn't seem to have done even one solo album that I can
> find.

I know of two LPs dating from 1966:
Isla Cameron: "Isla Cameron", Transatlantic XTRA 1040
Sydney Carter, Martin Carthy & Isla Cameron: "Songs from 'Hallelujah'", Fontana TL 5356

Reinhard

Tale

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Feb 1, 2003, 6:14:43 AM2/1/03
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Thanks for your input; it will give me a little more to search on.

This is what I've found out through the internet, but of course I haven't
been able to verify any of it:

In 1953 Ewan MacColl wrote her a song called "Cannily, Cannily". Together
they recorded a 10" LP called "Still I Love Him" in 1958. This LP was
reissued in the US as "English and Scottish Love Songs".

- Tale


Abby Sale

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Feb 1, 2003, 12:52:36 PM2/1/03
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On Sat, 1 Feb 2003 12:14:43 +0100, "Tale" <ta...@martinic.nl.earth> wrote:


>In 1953 Ewan MacColl wrote her a song called "Cannily, Cannily". Together
>they recorded a 10" LP called "Still I Love Him" in 1958. This LP was
>reissued in the US as "English and Scottish Love Songs".
>

Mine is a 12" LP. Maybe they added a couple of songs to it. Good record.

I also have:
The Best of Isla Cameron Prestige Int. LP 1962?

Isla Cameron & Tony Britton
Songs of Love, Lust & Loose Living Topic 1962


The "Happy!" files gives:
Blairgowrie Scotland: pivital Scots singer Isla Cameron born
3(March)/5/1930 (d~1992 - OR: She died in a tragic accident in her home
during 1980-per AMG)(seldom sang in public after the mid-'60s, however.
She then focused on acting; she plays the librarian in "The Prime Of Miss
Jean Brodie," eg in her last role, 1969)


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C Stuart Cook

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Feb 1, 2003, 1:09:21 PM2/1/03
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Did she not sing in 'Far from the Madding Crowd'. Either as Julie Christy's
voice for 'Through Bushes and Briars' or in the scene where the stormwater
washes Troy's bulbs out of Fanny's grave.

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Brian Watson

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Feb 1, 2003, 2:03:41 PM2/1/03
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"C Stuart Cook" <cs....@lineone.net> wrote in message
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> Did she not sing in 'Far from the Madding Crowd'. Either as Julie
Christy's
> voice for 'Through Bushes and Briars' or in the scene where the stormwater
> washes Troy's bulbs out of Fanny's grave.

That last line sounds suspiciously like a euphemism.

:-))

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Derek Schofield

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Feb 2, 2003, 6:49:59 AM2/2/03
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An obituary, written by Shirley Abicair, was published in Folk Music
Journal, vol 4, no 2, 1981. Published by EFDSS - there may be second hand
copies for sale from them lib...@efdss.org

Derek Schofield


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Derek Schofield

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Feb 2, 2003, 6:59:20 AM2/2/03
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Having just re-read Shirley Abicair's obituary, it differs from some of
these postings as follows: Shirley wrote that MacColl wrote The Fireman's
Not for Me for Isla to sing at a Fire Brigade's Union conference (he may of
course have written Cannily Cannily for her as well!) And Shirley wrote
that Isla coached Julie Christie to sing Bushes and Briars (no mention of
Isla singing the song herself!). Shirley was a good friend of Isla's.

Isla was part of Theatre Workshop with MacColl and Littlewood, but she
already had a repertoire of Tyneside songs which she performed at Ballads
and Blues events, on radio and TV, and followed MacColl into folk song,
whilst maintaining her acting career.

Derek Schofield
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The 9th Earl Of Mar

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Feb 2, 2003, 9:42:36 AM2/2/03
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Well this begs to differ:
http://www.moviemusic.com/CD/farfromthemaddingcrowd.html but listening to
the sample, which is clearly Isla, it's equally clearly not as performed
in the film. Off course, even if it was Julie singing it in the film, it
still may have been mimed, and if it was Isla, it would still have been
necessary to coach Julie for the mime. Let me see, where's that VC ...

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John Kaneen

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Feb 2, 2003, 10:13:59 AM2/2/03
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I've just got the original sound track 1967 LP out of 'Far From the
Madding' (MGM-C-8053) and there Bushes and Briars and The Bold Grenadier are
credited to Vocal: Isla Cameron. The other vocal credits - for The Tinker's
Song and I Sowed the Seeds of Love go to Trevor Lucas.
Regards
John
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C Stuart Cook

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Feb 2, 2003, 5:05:05 PM2/2/03
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I also think that Swarb appears in the film. At the Harvest Supper?
somewhere at least.

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Jon Hall

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Feb 2, 2003, 6:09:39 PM2/2/03
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"C Stuart Cook" <cs....@lineone.net> wrote:

> I also think that Swarb appears in the film. At the Harvest Supper?
> somewhere at least.

Yup.
And some of FC were in 'Who Dares Wins'.
btw - don't top post.
Jon.

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The 9th Earl Of Mar

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Feb 2, 2003, 6:26:29 PM2/2/03
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Yes, in the supper Dave plays a cracking version of another tune that
haunted me from the film - I memorised it and it took me years to find out
what it was, "Davey, Davey's Knick Knack"

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Andy Seagroatt

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Feb 3, 2003, 3:33:52 PM2/3/03
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"C Stuart Cook" <cs....@lineone.net> wrote:

>I also think that Swarb appears in the film. At the Harvest Supper?
>somewhere at least.

And if my memory serves me right Bob Common of the Yetties played
the drum at the Harvest Supper.

Andy Seagroatt
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Kevin Sheils

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Feb 6, 2003, 6:37:41 AM2/6/03
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On 1 Feb 2003 07:30:20 GMT, Reinhard Zierke
<zie...@informatik.uni-hamburg.de> wrote:

There is also "Songs of Love, Lust and Loose Living" on Transatlantic
TRA 105 released 1962. Almost a solo album, songs by Isla and
recitations by Tony Britton (probably most recently known as the
Father in Robin's Nest on TV - if you can call that recent). Guitar by
Stephen Sedley and Ralph Trainer to revive names for some to recall.

It's probably buried in my vinyl somewhere. IIRC Isla was working at
that time as an actor with Theatre Workshop which would give the
MacColl connection.

Kevin Sheils

folkman

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Feb 6, 2003, 3:19:41 PM2/6/03
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I've obviously come in too late to answer what the original question was,
but this LP was also reissued on XTRA a few years later as XTRA 1042. Topic
produced the 10 inch LP that was probably the source of the original thread
called "Still I love him" and that is the MacColl link although it has to be
said that the songs on the LP are all solos and there is no evidence of the
two actually performing together on the recording.

There is also in my archive an LP called "The Jupiter book of Ballads" That
sees Isla sing several scots songs including "Lord Randall" which was
learned from Betsy Miller, Ewan MacColl's mother. The LP is dated 1959 and
includes a (relatively) early recorded rendition of Blackwaterside (I mean
in the revival, as it was later a popular song for many other artists)

hope this answers any other questions

Folkman

>
> There is also "Songs of Love, Lust and Loose Living" on Transatlantic
> TRA 105 released 1962.

IIRC Isla was working at

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