Major Laughing Stock - Who Wants To Be Millionare
blue
The plan was to repeat all the questions and
on the correct one they'd be a cough from another
contestant.
Not only is Major Charles Ingram dumb at questions
he was also shown to be dumb at cheating.
His cheating help didn't cough on one, seemingly not knowing
the answer and so his wife in the audience had to step in
as Major was about to pick the wrong one out of two. She not
only had cough once but again as he went through them again.
By asking for so many confirmations he made the whole
scam completely obvious to the other contestants.
On some he read out all four answers about four times
getting the cough just after the right one each time.
Though wonder his wife's eyes were rolling around in
anguish all the time. Perhaps she was hoping Hittock
would stop coughing and making all so obviooiuse.
The sound not only focusing on Hittock's cough but also
picking up him asking fellow contestants for confirmantion
to the answers before coughing.
Major also thought he knew one and didn't ask for help
and as he was going for it as his help had to cough with
a NO! when he repeated the wrong answer and blow his nose loud.
It was all getting rather silly as Ingram said he didn't
know what the million pound answer was but he was going for.
All this with his cheating snigger the whole way through
made it a bit of a laugh. He had made it so obvouse its no
wonder his wife rucked him after the show.
Major Ingram is now to shown as a laughing stock but he clearly
isn't used to cheating. Perhaps too much money is being
dangled in front of people to go beyond the means of decent
honesty. Who hands in loose money they find in the street.
If we are to believe Major is an habitual cheat then you
would have to ask yourself how on earth did he get to be Major.
Sam Nelson
blue <bl...@ntlworld.com> writes:
> If we are to believe Major is an habitual cheat then you
> would have to ask yourself how on earth did he get to be Major.
Sign on the wall at `Coalition HQ' in Doha, Qatar: "If you find yourself in
a fair fight, you didn't plan properly". Armed forces is about winning, not
playing fair.
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rob_the_knob
> Last night we saw Major Charles Ingram cheat.
<snip stuff>
>
> Major Ingram is now to shown as a laughing stock but he clearly
> isn't used to cheating.
right
>
> If we are to believe Major is an habitual cheat
but we don't, you just said the opposite
> then you
> would have to ask yourself how on earth did he get to be Major.
More worrying is not that he's a cheat, probably v.handy in special
services, but the fact that it was such a crackpot plan. One has to then
wonder if he hasn't hatched and implemented any other crackpot plans
over the years. His underestimation of his enemy on this occasion is
especially disturbing. Let's hope no-one has or is suffering for any
past idiotic endeavor he might of convinced his deluded self into pursuing.
Moley
> Jesus H Christ how many threads do we need about this bloody
> programme?
>
My client Mr. Christ replies, "Certainly less than this"
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"rob_the_knob" <to...@kins.com> wrote in message
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I thought the fact that he has subsequently protested loudly that he isn't
dim and is, in fact, a member of Mensa was revealing.
If you're that bright, you don't need assistance on a quiz show do you?
Unless, of course, being a member of Mensa isn't quite within the purview of
the elite few after all.........I wonder how much he bunged em to join?
Frank
"blue" <bl...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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> Last night we saw Major Charles Ingram cheat.
>
I think the whole thing was Tarrant and co tryimg to drum up free publicity
at Tax payers expense.
I look forward to seeing Michael Owen in court next week for the serious
Fraud of diving in the penalty box.
Farmer Alfalfa
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Mensa entry is based on IQ (intelligence quotient: effectively=ability to
think) not General Knowledge.
This debate is irrelevant.
F A
Farmer Alfalfa
"Derek R" <djr...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:39:13 +0100, blue <bl...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
> >Last night we saw Major Charles Ingram cheat.
>
> programme?
It's a TV programme about a TV programme. Are you surprised?
F A
Diogenes The Tramp
> Mensa entry is based on IQ (intelligence quotient: effectively=ability to
> think) not General Knowledge.
>
> This debate is irrelevant.
>
Hmmm, except, of course, that the good Major insisted upon bringing up the
fact that he was a member of Mensa.
Wonder if they'll kick him out?
Thanatos
with a more elaborate plan than "cough when I say the right answer".
They could have had the coughs coming after the correct answer, the
answer after the correct answer, the answer diagonally opposite the
correct answer, etc. depending on which question in the sequence was
being asked.
Certainly this would have been a little harder to commit to memory,
but as the code would only have been known to those involved, it would
have been very difficult for Celador to prove any pattern to the
coughing. Add in the fact that they should have stopped at £250K, and
I think they'd all have been sitting on a nice little nest egg right
now.
Going for the simplest (and therefore the most transparent) system,
coupled with greed was their downfall.
Ian F.
> My client Mr. Christ replies, "Certainly less than this"
Maybe m'learned friend may care to inform his client that it should be
"fewer", not "less". Which proves, of course, that he is not the son of
Dog!
;-)
Ian
Matt
"Derek R" <djr...@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote in message
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> On Tue, 22 Apr 2003 15:39:13 +0100, blue <bl...@ntlworld.com> wrote:
>
>
> programme?
>
Let me see... It could be 4.......hmmm....but it could be 3...or
2......maybe even 1..*cough*..
I'm going to go for 1.
Farmer Alfalfa
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I reckon it was momentum rather than greed.
Nothing succeeds like success and the system was working. With enough
adrenaline flowing I might feel invincible in exactly the same circumstances
and go for it. He probably just couldn't stop himself.
I'd still like to see ALL the evidence though, not just Celador's
F A
Izo Mezzo
was and then Farmer Alfalfa spoke and this is what they said to
me.......
An IQ test shows how good at IQ tests you are.
--
Izo
"We will welcome them with bullets and shoes."
- Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf,
Iraqi Minister of Information
Izo Mezzo
me.......
>
Nothing. He probably cheated.
Tim Johnson
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> dim and is, in fact, a member of Mensa was revealing.
Well obviously he cheated on the Mensa test!
Moley
You see, that'll happen when you translate from the original Aramaic.
It's a busy time of year for him at tho moment but I shall inform my client
as soon as he gets off his bike.
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blue
>
> More worrying is not that he's a cheat, probably v.handy in special
> services, but the fact that it was such a crackpot plan. One has to then
> wonder if he hasn't hatched and implemented any other crackpot plans
> over the years. His underestimation of his enemy on this occasion is
> especially disturbing. Let's hope no-one has or is suffering for any
> past idiotic endeavor he might of convinced his deluded self into pursuing.
Seeing his performance you are left wondering
how he got to his rank, coughs, sneezes and a lot of cash.
He's more blackadder's WWI than today's modern army.
I Wonder why he left.
blue
Huh! Well he didn't as said elsewhere way up the situation.
There are levels for things. I don't think he would of
got away with shooting Tarrant and driving out in a tank either.
blue
>
> They'd have been better off spending a little more time to come up
> with a more elaborate plan than "cough when I say the right answer".
> They could have had the coughs coming after the correct answer, the
> answer after the correct answer, the answer diagonally opposite the
> correct answer, etc. depending on which question in the sequence was
> being asked.
Not too sure this chap was that quick on the up take.
Ok, you can say other coughs may of put him off but
it was so simple and he simply trashed it.
blue
I think you should expect trouble when you dangle so much
money under peoples noses. These modern abusive programmes
play on the edge of peoples emotions so your are going to
get heat.
It's almost sad they got in trouble when they were so amusing.
Dom Robinson
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> Certainly this would have been a little harder to commit to memory,
> but as the code would only have been known to those involved, it would
> have been very difficult for Celador to prove any pattern to the
> coughing. Add in the fact that they should have stopped at £250K, and
> I think they'd all have been sitting on a nice little nest egg right
> now.
>
is) and ends up in jail, he might find sitting on an egg more comfortable than
whatever else he has to sit on :)
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Steve Glynn
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To expand on that a bit, 'IQ' is a rather dodgy statistical concept.
An IQ test is, as readers will recall, an assortment of tests in various
different skills -- verbal reasoning, mathematical ability, and so forth.
Some people have noticed that people who do well in one part of the test
tend to do pretty well in other parts of the tests, too, and have proposed
the hypothesis that there's some provable relationship between the scores in
the tests, known as an 'Intelligence Quotient'.
This is a bit like noticing that someone who is good at tennis is frequently
good at soccer, and then trying to demonstrate that there's a 'fitness
quotient'. Presumably he's physically fit, has good hand/eye
coordination, and so on, but try taking the discussion much further than
that.
Try selecting David Beckham to captain England in the next Cricket test
series or to play for the Dallas Cowboys, come to that.
All it is is an attempt to find a correlationship between scores in various
tests, and the results of this exercise are a bit problematic, to say the
least.
Now, the interesting bit comes when you try to find a correlation between
this Intelligence Quotient, assuming you can get the stats to work, and
anything else, especially anything that's conceivably useful. You might
well think that your doctor and your solicitor are both pretty bright
people, but it's clear which one you'd ask to deal with your medical
problems and which one you'd ask to do the conveyancing.
I'd ask neither my doctor nor my solicitor to help fix the central heating
(unless I knew they had an expertise in that area also).
I'd be very dubious indeed if, were the next time I phoned a plumber or a
dentist for advice he told me 'you can rely on me. I'm a member of Mensa
and my IQ is whatever'. Fascinating information, doubtless, but it's his
expertise in plumbing or dentistry that interest me in that context rather
than his ability to speak German or to play the violin (both of which
talents seem of more use than being able to do IQ tests).
Two final points, which have always puzzled me but some member of Mensa will
doubtless be able to resolve.
First, most people are able to find sufficient social and intellectual
stimulation in their professional lives, their family, their social
activities like the Drama Group or the Chess Club or something. Why do
they need to join a club or society for people who did well in an IQ test,
for heaven's sake?
Second, why on earth is it called 'Mensa'? Means 'A table' in Latin, and I
suppose there are also echoes of 'Mens' ('a mind'). General idea of
'people sitting round a table to discuss things intelligently'?
Most dinner parties, no matter how dreadful, I've attended, serve that
function ....
Steve
Izo Mezzo
He got a Cough Marshal.
...sorry.
Moley
> Meanwhile lurking by a stone in the mud, two eyes looked to see what I
> was and then blue spoke and this is what they said to me.......
>
>
>>rob_the_knob wrote:
>>I Wonder why he left.
>
> He got a Cough Marshal.
>
>
Is that the process where they tell him to "cough out of 'ere!"
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Peter THOMA$
>>> More worrying is not that he's a cheat, probably v.handy in special
>>> services, but the fact that it was such a crackpot plan. One has to then
>>> wonder if he hasn't hatched and implemented any other crackpot plans
>>> over the years. His underestimation of his enemy on this occasion is
>>> especially disturbing. Let's hope no-one has or is suffering for any
>>> past idiotic endeavor he might of convinced his deluded self into pursuing.
>>Seeing his performance you are left wondering
>>how he got to his rank, coughs, sneezes and a lot of cash.
>>He's more blackadder's WWI than today's modern army.
>>I Wonder why he left.
>He got a Cough Marshal.
>...sorry.
He got put in a cell, and someone came to Locket up.
....sorry.
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Yeah and put him in hand coughs.
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<rant>
Failed your Mensa test, ah? ;-)
Your understanding of the purpose of an IQ test is flawed. IQ isn't meant to
be a measure of knowledge. What it measures is your mental capacity/ability,
that doesn't mean you've used it. The _official_ tests are designed and
tested extensively to minimize any difference in results based on knowledge,
literacy, academic background, and any experience taking puzzles or previous
IQ tests. In the real world you would never see more than up to about a 5
point difference between people based on all these factors and equal mental
capacity.
> Why do
> they need to join a club or society for people who did well in an IQ test,
> for heaven's sake?
Because an IQ test is the best measurement we have for mental ability.
Surely you prefer associating with like-minded people, who can engage you in
stimulating conversation, and can follow your train of thought? It's not so
easy to find these people in your local bar you know. Mensa has a 98th
percentile cut-off, so we get to associate with people we'd have never of
met in our day-to-day lives. It's no different from any other grouping of
people, where you come together based on a shared commonality.
That's not to say it's everyone's cup of tea. I myself joined, left after 3
years, and rejoined 5 years later.
> Second, why on earth is it called 'Mensa'?
1. Mensa, Table (e.g. round table)
2. Mens, Mind
3. Mensis, month (as in monthly meetings)
Steve Frazer
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> And I stood back there astounded at
> >
> >Your understanding of the purpose of an IQ test is flawed. IQ isn't meant
to
> >be a measure of knowledge. What it measures is your mental
capacity/ability,
>
Except that he was right.......
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Steve Frazer
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> Your understanding of the purpose of an IQ test is flawed. IQ isn't meant
to
> be a measure of knowledge. What it measures is your mental
capacity/ability,
> that doesn't mean you've used it. The _official_ tests are designed and
> tested extensively to minimize any difference in results based on
knowledge,
> literacy, academic background, and any experience taking puzzles or
previous
> IQ tests. In the real world you would never see more than up to about a 5
> point difference between people based on all these factors and equal
mental
> capacity.
In the real world....... a friend of mine and his whole class took a Mensa
test and then their tutor coached them into how to take the tests for a
while. The result was an average 10 point jump for the class. Even
membership of Mensa isn't worth the paper it is printed on, as they are so
money-minded that they have lowered the standards so almost anyone can get
in!
Also, there is little point in having an enormous capacity for learning if
one has so much intellectual and emotional 'baggage' that little of that
capacity is utilised.
Ash
> Last night we saw Major Charles Ingram cheat.
>
> on the correct one they'd be a cough from another
> contestant.
>
> Not only is Major Charles Ingram dumb at questions
> he was also shown to be dumb at cheating.
>
> His cheating help didn't cough on one, seemingly not knowing
> the answer and so his wife in the audience had to step in
> as Major was about to pick the wrong one out of two. She not
> only had cough once but again as he went through them again.
>
> By asking for so many confirmations he made the whole
> scam completely obvious to the other contestants.
>
> On some he read out all four answers about four times
> getting the cough just after the right one each time.
>
> Though wonder his wife's eyes were rolling around in
> anguish all the time. Perhaps she was hoping Hittock
> would stop coughing and making all so obviooiuse.
> The sound not only focusing on Hittock's cough but also
> picking up him asking fellow contestants for confirmantion
> to the answers before coughing.
>
> Major also thought he knew one and didn't ask for help
> and as he was going for it as his help had to cough with
> a NO! when he repeated the wrong answer and blow his nose loud.
>
Did the program mention whether whittock coughed at any other time
during the filming, such as while the questions were being read out or
in the breaks?
The No thing was a bit odd, especially as they later said that the
code for wrong was blowing the nose
Tim Johnson
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> In the real world....... a friend of mine and his whole class took a Mensa
> test and then their tutor coached them into how to take the tests for a
> while. The result was an average 10 point jump for the class.
That's hardly a realistic example, it's more akin to cheating. There's no
point in cheating your Mensa test, it's just a social group.
> Even
> membership of Mensa isn't worth the paper it is printed on, as they are so
> money-minded that they have lowered the standards so almost anyone can get
> in!
Only 2% of the population are elligable. Mensa is hardly booming.
> Also, there is little point in having an enormous capacity for learning if
> one has so much intellectual and emotional 'baggage' that little of that
> capacity is utilised.
I never said intelligence is the highest measure of a man, it most certainly
is not, you need to stop being so defensive ;-)
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Yeah. It's like the big red wee really.
Love Zsa Zsa
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>
>
Steve Frazer
> "Steve Frazer" <steve_...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:b85n9i$62ik3$1...@ID-19581.news.dfncis.de...
> > In the real world....... a friend of mine and his whole class took a
Mensa
> > test and then their tutor coached them into how to take the tests for a
> > while. The result was an average 10 point jump for the class.
>
> That's hardly a realistic example, it's more akin to cheating. There's no
> point in cheating your Mensa test, it's just a social group.
But people do!
> > Even
> > membership of Mensa isn't worth the paper it is printed on, as they are
so
> > money-minded that they have lowered the standards so almost anyone can
get
> > in!
>
> Only 2% of the population are elligable. Mensa is hardly booming.
Far more than 2% now, that figure was from 20 years ago!!
> > Also, there is little point in having an enormous capacity for learning
if
> > one has so much intellectual and emotional 'baggage' that little of that
> > capacity is utilised.
>
> I never said intelligence is the highest measure of a man, it most
certainly
> is not, you need to stop being so defensive ;-)
Merely putting the discussion into context.......
Tim Johnson
> > Only 2% of the population are elligable. Mensa is hardly booming.
What? Are you suggesting the mean IQ for the population of earth has risen?!
It was still 100 last time I checked.
Thanatos
wrote:
>Because an IQ test is the best measurement we have for mental ability.
>Surely you prefer associating with like-minded people, who can engage you in
>stimulating conversation, and can follow your train of thought? It's not so
>easy to find these people in your local bar you know.
Quite. Which is why God invented uk.media.tv.misc. :-)
Steve Frazer
> "Steve Frazer" <steve_...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:b8696b$6p1t2$1...@ID-19581.news.dfncis.de...
> > > Only 2% of the population are elligable. Mensa is hardly booming.
> > Far more than 2% now, that figure was from 20 years ago!!
> What? Are you suggesting the mean IQ for the population of earth has
risen?!
> It was still 100 last time I checked.
http://www.nuffieldbioethics.org/publications/geneticsandhb/rep0000001013.as
p
"Footnotes
3 Medawar, P. (1982). Pluto's Republic. Oxford: Oxford University Press.
Another common criticism of IQ tests arises from the 'Flynn effect', first
noted by Professor James Flynn in 1987 (Psychol. Bull. 101, 171) that the
average IQ of individuals has been rising steadily since the measurement was
first introduced. In January 2002 he reported that the Flynn Effect is
particularly great in Britain, which has seen a 27 point increase in average
IQ since World War II, compared to a 24 point rise in the US."
I recall a figure of 110 abot 10 years ago.... Also the entry level for
Mensa has been reduced, it use to be higher!
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> "Steve Frazer" <steve_...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
> news:b8696b$6p1t2$1...@ID-19581.news.dfncis.de...
> > > Only 2% of the population are elligable. Mensa is hardly booming.
> > Far more than 2% now, that figure was from 20 years ago!!
> What? Are you suggesting the mean IQ for the population of earth has
risen?!
> It was still 100 last time I checked.
http://www.nuffieldbioethics.org/publications/geneticsandhb/rep0000001013.as
p
"Footnotes
3 Medawar, P. (1982). Pluto's Republic. Oxford: Oxford University Press.
Another common criticism of IQ tests arises from the 'Flynn effect', first
noted by Professor James Flynn in 1987 (Psychol. Bull. 101, 171) that the
average IQ of individuals has been rising steadily since the measurement was
first introduced. In January 2002 he reported that the Flynn Effect is
particularly great in Britain, which has seen a 27 point increase in average
IQ since World War II, compared to a 24 point rise in the US."
http://www.psychol.ucl.ac.uk/vdu/B001/individiffs1.html
"Changes over time In US the mean IQ of conscripts in World War 1 was 12
points lower than the mean IQ of conscripts in World War 2 (using the same
test. On average IQ rises 3 points per decade. The average IQ in 2002 is
thus 15 points higher than the average IQ in 1950. This is true for US, UK
and Japan, indicating a rise over the century of 27 points."
Also the entry level for Mensa has been reduced, it use to be higher!
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blue
>
> And I stood back there astounded at
> >
> >money under peoples noses. These modern abusive programmes
> >play on the edge of peoples emotions so your are going to
> >get heat.
>
> in one post goes to...........
> --
Do you know I'm killfilled in fifteen stellar systems
for that sole reason :)
blue
>
> > Major also thought he knew one and didn't ask for help
> > and as he was going for it as his help had to cough with
> > a NO! when he repeated the wrong answer and blow his nose loud.
> >
> Did the program mention whether whittock coughed at any other time
> during the filming, such as while the questions were being read out or
> in the breaks?
> The No thing was a bit odd, especially as they later said that the
> code for wrong was blowing the nose
I don't think Major as stated was up on the plan
and that's why the 'NO' had to come in.
Perhaps once that was done he could nose blow.
They highlighted the Hittocks coughs that made their case.
There were other coughs in the background, we are
led to believe these weren't Hittock's.
Certainly to be fair you'd have to hear every single
utterance of Hittock.
Lee J. Moore
[..]
> They highlighted the Hittocks coughs
[..]
Never have I known a guy's surname to be the subject of so much
play on words. My favourite two so far are Tecwen Fuckwittock
and Tarquin Bollock.
Can anybody better that? ;)
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Susan Barlow
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> One may as well begin with blue's letter to uk.media.tv.misc:
>
> [..]
> > They highlighted the Hittocks coughs
> [..]
>
> Never have I known a guy's surname to be the subject of so much
> play on words. My favourite two so far are Tecwen Fuckwittock
> and Tarquin Bollock.
>
> Can anybody better that? ;)
Feckwit Buttock
Sue B
blue
I've had a look and also spotted.
'up on the plan'
'come in.'
'nose blow.'
Coughs/whatever. You can't say nothing with this language :(
blue
>
> "vjc" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> news:ucobavkkvuajiprjp...@4ax.com...
> > And I stood back there astounded at
> > >
> > >Your understanding of the purpose of an IQ test is flawed. IQ isn't meant
> to
> > >be a measure of knowledge. What it measures is your mental
> capacity/ability,
> >
> > An example of a flawed hypothesis, right before our eyes.
>
> Except that he was right.......
If the measure of greatness was left to IQ tests
they'd be no great leaders, writers, painters...
e
And do we know how Tecwen is pronounced?
e
or great followers. :-)
mick
Guilty?
mick
Susan Barlow
"mick" <cough...@totlise.co.uk> wrote
> > And do we know how Tecwen is pronounced?
>
> Guilty?
>
> mick
lol - took me a few seconds to get that!
Maybe he should have told them his name was Bob Flemming.
Sue B
Lee J. Moore
>
> "Lee J. Moore" <le...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
> news:b88bku$7f6p0$5...@ID-129053.news.dfncis.de...
>> Can anybody better that? ;)
>
> Feckwit Buttock
His name really is an unfortunate one isn't it?
Farmer Alfalfa
> One may as well begin with Susan Barlow's letter to uk.media.tv.misc:
> >
> > "Lee J. Moore" <le...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
> > news:b88bku$7f6p0$5...@ID-129053.news.dfncis.de...
> [..]
> >> Can anybody better that? ;)
> >
> > Feckwit Buttock
>
> His name really is an unfortunate one isn't it?
It sounds like relative rarity of his name is part of the story.
Didn't the Ingrams recognise it from previous quizzes (or even eps of
WWTBAM)? This certainly would not have happened had his name been John
Smith!
FA
Butch Wax
> And do we know how Tecwen is pronounced?
Pronounce it as it's spelled... ;-)
(Tek-When with the emphasis on 'Tek')
In Welsh the 'c' is always hard.
--
Butch Wax
Not butch and not made of wax
Jacqui
> Didn't the Ingrams recognise it from previous quizzes (or even eps
> of WWTBAM)? This certainly would not have happened had his name
> been John Smith!
No, Whittock contacted Adrian Pollock first, so they would have been
aware of him through that, since Diana Ingram and Adrian Pollock were
writing a book about how to get on. I can't imagine AP never mentioned
that TW had been to see him to ask about tactics. No doubt they
recognised his name when it was read out, but I don't think it was from
watching TV - besides, how would that have given them his phone
number? AP must have done that.
Jac
Thanatos
<sirlawren...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>Farmer Alfalfa wibbled:
>
>> Didn't the Ingrams recognise it from previous quizzes (or even eps
>> of WWTBAM)? This certainly would not have happened had his name
>> been John Smith!
>
>No, Whittock contacted Adrian Pollock first, so they would have been
>aware of him through that, since Diana Ingram and Adrian Pollock were
>writing a book about how to get on.
Am I the only one wondering how an entire book could be written on the
subject of how to get on WWTBAM? I'd have thought it would merit a
short magazine article, at best.
Thanatos
<bootchec...@netscape.net> wrote:
>e wrote:
>
>> And do we know how Tecwen is pronounced?
>
>Pronounce it as it's spelled... ;-)
>
>(Tek-When with the emphasis on 'Tek')
>
>In Welsh the 'c' is always hard.
So how is Cymru pronounced, then? I've only ever seen it written
down. I'll bet it sounds nothing like it's spelled. :-)
mick
Is it meant to be pronounced? I thought it was just a way of releasing
phlegm:)
mick
Jacqui
> Jacqui wrote:
>>No, Whittock contacted Adrian Pollock first, so they would have
>>been aware of him through that, since Diana Ingram and Adrian
>>Pollock were writing a book about how to get on.
>
> Am I the only one wondering how an entire book could be written on
> the subject of how to get on WWTBAM? I'd have thought it would
> merit a short magazine article, at best.
No, I can't imagine how it gets stretched to a book, either. The chap
who wrote the book (Robert Brydges) on winning seems a bit
overconfident too - I expect to see his book in the cheap bookshops
(£1.99) before long. But publishers seem to keep going for this kind of
thing, remember the books on winning the Lottery?
Jac
Lee J. Moore
>
[..]
> No, I can't imagine how it gets stretched to a book, either.
> The chap who wrote the book (Robert Brydges) on winning seems
> a bit overconfident too - I expect to see his book in the
> cheap bookshops (£1.99) before long. But publishers seem to
> keep going for this kind of thing, remember the books on
> winning the Lottery?
I'm strangely reminded of those early 1980s 'How to do the
Rubiks cube' books in my loft. Not actually as absurd as the
'How To Win On A Random Quiz Show' genre, but I suppose the
get-rich-quick fanatics are always willing to spend their
earnings on unprofitable drivel.
Tim Johnson
From: "Steve Frazer" <steve_...@ntlworld.com>
Newsgroups: uk.politics.misc,uk.media.tv.misc
Sent: Thursday, April 24, 2003 8:24 AM
Subject: Re: Major Laughing Stock - Who Wants To Be Millionare
> first introduced. In January 2002 he reported that the Flynn Effect is
Ah right. Well the Flynn effect is due to environment. Better nutrition,
better education, more experience in taking IQ tests and solving puzzles,
etc. This has all been factored into modern IQ tests. The tests are
renormalized about every 10 years so the mean stays constant at 100. So my
comment was rather convoluted, seeings as the average is and always will be
100, being that the figure is just a relative number.
As for Mensa's standards, it's been 98th percentile ever since it was
founded, and they ain't planning on changing it.
Steve Frazer
news:3EA7C6FC...@ntlworld.com...
> Steve Frazer wrote:
> > "vjc" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
> > news:ucobavkkvuajiprjp...@4ax.com...
meant
> > to
> > > >be a measure of knowledge. What it measures is your mental
> > capacity/ability,
> > >
> > > An example of a flawed hypothesis, right before our eyes.
> >
> > Except that he was right.......
>
> If the measure of greatness was left to IQ tests
> they'd be no great leaders, writers, painters...
I couldn't agree more, I think they are a waste of time and was just
pointing out that they are supposed to be a measure of intellectual capacity
and not knowledge.
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Steve Frazer
So why can you get in with a lower mark now than you could when I was
little?
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^_^
The people on the news seem to think it's pronounced "KUUM-ree", but,
frankly, who knows!
Tim Johnson
> So why can you get in with a lower mark now than you could when I was
> little?
You can't. You're probably getting the tests mixed up. Different tests have
different scales, but the bottom line is you need to be in the top 2% in
that test, regardless of score. Quote from mensa.org.uk:
A top 2% mark in any of these frequently used tests below qualifies you for
entry to Mensa. The minimum test mark to get into Mensa is:
a.. Cattell B - 148
b.. Culture Fair - 132
c.. Ravens Advanced Matrices - 135
d.. Ravens Standard Matrices - 131
e.. Wechsler Scales - 132
Dom Robinson
le...@dsl.pipex.com, Dom replied with an ALL NEW posting. "Press red" to find
out more...
> One may as well begin with blue's letter to uk.media.tv.misc:
>
> [..]
> > They highlighted the Hittocks coughs
> [..]
>
> Never have I known a guy's surname to be the subject of so much
> play on words. My favourite two so far are Tecwen Fuckwittock
> and Tarquin Bollock.
>
> Can anybody better that? ;)
>
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Gordon Davie
Mary Hopkin pronounces it that way - at least, she did when it was her turn
to sing the closing theme to Billy Connolly's World Tour of England, Ireland
and Wales.
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Edinburgh, Scotland
"Slipped the surly bonds of Earth...to touch the face of God"
Gordon Davie
>> Last night we saw Major Charles Ingram cheat.
>>
>
> I think the whole thing was Tarrant and co tryimg to drum up free
> publicity at Tax payers expense.
>
> I look forward to seeing Michael Owen in court next week for the
> serious Fraud of diving in the penalty box.
He'd ask for 3,658 other offences to be taken into consideration.
Butch Wax
> Thanatos wrote:
>
>>On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 16:54:41 +0100, Butch Wax
>><bootchec...@netscape.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>e wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>And do we know how Tecwen is pronounced?
>>>
>>>Pronounce it as it's spelled... ;-)
>>>
>>>(Tek-When with the emphasis on 'Tek')
>>>
>>>In Welsh the 'c' is always hard.
>>
>>So how is Cymru pronounced, then? I've only ever seen it written
>>down. I'll bet it sounds nothing like it's spelled. :-)
Come-Ree (emphasis on 'come') ;-)
> Is it meant to be pronounced? I thought it was just a way of releasing
> phlegm:)
Snuff is illegal in Wales, so there has to be some other way to loosen
up the old boogers. ;-)
Butch Wax
And indeed, who cares!
But for those who do, it's pronounced "come-ree" (here in South Wales it
is anyway. North Wales has a different dialect you'll be pleased to know!)
Butch Wax
> ^_^ wrote:
>
>>The people on the news seem to think it's pronounced "KUUM-ree", but,
>>frankly, who knows!
>
>
> Mary Hopkin pronounces it that way - at least, she did when it was her turn
> to sing the closing theme to Billy Connolly's World Tour of England, Ireland
> and Wales.
Ah... those were the days ;-)
Thanatos
<sirlawren...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>No, I can't imagine how it gets stretched to a book, either. The chap
>who wrote the book (Robert Brydges) on winning seems a bit
>overconfident too - I expect to see his book in the cheap bookshops
>(£1.99) before long. But publishers seem to keep going for this kind of
>thing, remember the books on winning the Lottery?
There are books on how to win the lottery? What do they say - buy 14
million tickets? :-)
Thanatos
<murphyi...@hotmail.com> wrote:
>As a follow-up to article <b88bku$7f6p0$5...@ID-129053.news.dfncis.de> by
>le...@dsl.pipex.com, Dom replied with an ALL NEW posting. "Press red" to find
>out more...
>> One may as well begin with blue's letter to uk.media.tv.misc:
>>
>> [..]
>> > They highlighted the Hittocks coughs
>> [..]
>>
>> Never have I known a guy's surname to be the subject of so much
>> play on words. My favourite two so far are Tecwen Fuckwittock
>> and Tarquin Bollock.
>>
>> Can anybody better that? ;)
>>
>I preferred Tecwen Buttock, on Baddiel & Skinner.
Or (more accurately) Tec-didn't-win Buttock. ;-)
Izo Mezzo
was and then mick spoke and this is what they said to me.......
No, that's Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.
--
Izo
"We will welcome them with bullets and shoes."
- Mohammed Saeed al-Sahaf,
Iraqi Minister of Information
mick
"Izo Mezzo" <I...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:0fyfY+Qm...@blueyonder.co.uk...
> Meanwhile lurking by a stone in the mud, two eyes looked to see what I
> was and then mick spoke and this is what they said to me.......
>
>
> >
> >
> >Thanatos wrote:
> >> On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 16:54:41 +0100, Butch Wax
> >> <bootchec...@netscape.net> wrote:
> >>
> >>> e wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> And do we know how Tecwen is pronounced?
> >>>
> >>> Pronounce it as it's spelled... ;-)
> >>>
> >>> (Tek-When with the emphasis on 'Tek')
> >>>
> >>> In Welsh the 'c' is always hard.
> >>
> >> So how is Cymru pronounced, then? I've only ever seen it written
> >> down. I'll bet it sounds nothing like it's spelled. :-)
> >
> >Is it meant to be pronounced? I thought it was just a way of releasing
> >phlegm:)
>
You`ve missed the c out.
mick
e
> e wrote:
>
>> And do we know how Tecwen is pronounced?
>
>
> Pronounce it as it's spelled... ;-)
>
> (Tek-When with the emphasis on 'Tek')
>
> In Welsh the 'c' is always hard.
>
ta :-)
Steve Frazer
> You can't. You're probably getting the tests mixed up. Different tests
have
> different scales, but the bottom line is you need to be in the top 2% in
> that test, regardless of score. Quote from mensa.org.uk:
>
> A top 2% mark in any of these frequently used tests below qualifies you
for
> entry to Mensa. The minimum test mark to get into Mensa is:
> a.. Cattell B - 148
> b.. Culture Fair - 132
> c.. Ravens Advanced Matrices - 135
> d.. Ravens Standard Matrices - 131
> e.. Wechsler Scales - 132
Ok.
e
no no it must be an acronym for something, CYMRU...er...
Tim Johnson
> If the measure of greatness was left to IQ tests
> they'd be no great leaders, writers, painters...
Whoever implied IQ = greatness, knowledge, wisdom, etc? Nobody. A higher IQ
just means I'm smarter than you :P
Izo Mezzo
was and then mick spoke and this is what they said to me.......
>
>"Izo Mezzo" <I...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
>news:0fyfY+Qm...@blueyonder.co.uk...
>> Meanwhile lurking by a stone in the mud, two eyes looked to see what I
>> was and then mick spoke and this is what they said to me.......
>>
>>
>> >
>> >
>> >Thanatos wrote:
>> >> On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 16:54:41 +0100, Butch Wax
>> >> <bootchec...@netscape.net> wrote:
>> >>
>> >>> e wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> And do we know how Tecwen is pronounced?
>> >>>
>> >>> Pronounce it as it's spelled... ;-)
>> >>>
>> >>> (Tek-When with the emphasis on 'Tek')
>> >>>
>> >>> In Welsh the 'c' is always hard.
>> >>
>> >> So how is Cymru pronounced, then? I've only ever seen it written
>> >> down. I'll bet it sounds nothing like it's spelled. :-)
>> >
>> >Is it meant to be pronounced? I thought it was just a way of releasing
>> >phlegm:)
>>
>> No, that's Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogeryhwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.
>
>You`ve missed the c out.
I know what the c in your name stands for >:)
Gordon Davie
> Meanwhile lurking by a stone in the mud, two eyes looked to see what I
> was and then mick spoke and this is what they said to me.......
>
>
>>
>>
>> Thanatos wrote:
>>> On Thu, 24 Apr 2003 16:54:41 +0100, Butch Wax
>>> <bootchec...@netscape.net> wrote:
>>>
>>>> e wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> And do we know how Tecwen is pronounced?
>>>>
>>>> Pronounce it as it's spelled... ;-)
>>>>
>>>> (Tek-When with the emphasis on 'Tek')
>>>>
>>>> In Welsh the 'c' is always hard.
>>>
>>> So how is Cymru pronounced, then? I've only ever seen it written
>>> down. I'll bet it sounds nothing like it's spelled. :-)
>>
>> Is it meant to be pronounced? I thought it was just a way of
>> releasing phlegm:)
>
> No, that's Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.
That's easy for you to say.
Thanatos
<bootchec...@netscape.net> wrote:
>>>So how is Cymru pronounced, then? I've only ever seen it written
>>>down. I'll bet it sounds nothing like it's spelled. :-)
>
>Come-Ree (emphasis on 'come') ;-)
Ah. Thanks.