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allanbonnetracy

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Nov 9, 2009, 12:20:43 PM11/9/09
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Even I think this is being a bit harsh but boy what is the matter with
the man he could find an accident in a H&S office.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8349757.stm

Gordon Brown has telephoned the mother of a soldier killed in
Afghanistan to apologise after apparently misspelling his name in a
letter of sympathy.

Usenet Nutter

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Nov 9, 2009, 12:30:52 PM11/9/09
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I know it's a mistake anyone can make but FFS ...I don't know if he
personally wrote it or if he just signed a typed letter but in the
circs could they not have made ultra certain that the names included
were correctly spelled .
EDIT ..I see it is a handwritten letter conforming to an MOD Draft. If
his writing is that bad maybe a typed letter would be better .

JNugent

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Nov 9, 2009, 1:27:30 PM11/9/09
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Usenet Nutter wrote:

> allanbonnetracy <allanbo...@ireland.com> wrote:

>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8349757.stm

It gets worse...

The BBC TV news has him mispronouncing the surname as "James" when he
announced the death in the House of Commons, two months ago.

Then Mandelson pops up as a talking head and says "It is absolutely
unthinkable that [the Prome Minister] would want to show any sort of
respect... er... disrespect... not only to Mrs Janes's...".

Shaun

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Nov 9, 2009, 1:31:40 PM11/9/09
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On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 09:20:43 -0800 (PST), allanbonnetracy
<allanbo...@ireland.com> wrote:

What idiot calls their son "James James" then has the cheek to
complain when it confuses people ?

Usenet Nutter

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Nov 9, 2009, 1:40:32 PM11/9/09
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:31:40 GMT, shaun.jam...@ntlwolrd.com
(Shaun) wrote:

>What idiot calls their son "James James" then has the cheek to
>complain when it confuses people ?

Well it certainly seems to have confused you as that is not his name
!!!!!

Halmyre

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Nov 9, 2009, 1:42:28 PM11/9/09
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In article <6a7d0ed3-1a3e-4756-b4c8-
3140f8...@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, allanbo...@ireland.com
says...

The poor woman was so upset she went straight to the Sun! Can you say "put up
job"?

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Trash Folder

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Nov 9, 2009, 1:56:36 PM11/9/09
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QED!

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Shaun

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Nov 9, 2009, 2:52:25 PM11/9/09
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On Mon, 09 Nov 2009 18:40:32 +0000, Usenet Nutter
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and Jamie is short for ...?

Andy Pandy

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Nov 9, 2009, 3:19:35 PM11/9/09
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"Shaun" <shaun.jam...@ntlwolrd.com> wrote in message
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Oh dear.

Hint: it's not his first name you got wrong.

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Andy Pandy

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Nov 9, 2009, 3:29:03 PM11/9/09
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"Halmyre" <no....@this.address> wrote in message
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> In article <6a7d0ed3-1a3e-4756-b4c8-
> 3140f8...@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, allanbo...@ireland.com
> says...
>>
>> Even I think this is being a bit harsh but boy what is the matter with
>> the man he could find an accident in a H&S office.
>>
>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8349757.stm
>>
>> Gordon Brown has telephoned the mother of a soldier killed in
>> Afghanistan to apologise after apparently misspelling his name in a
>> letter of sympathy.
>>
>>
>
> The poor woman was so upset she went straight to the Sun! Can you say "put
> up
> job"?

She wanted to publicise what she regarded as a "hastily scrawled insult".
What better place to go than a mass circulation newspaper which doesn't much
like the PM?

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Mike Hall

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Nov 9, 2009, 4:05:04 PM11/9/09
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It's his own fault. Only an idiot with serious eye problems would
send out a condolence letter without getting someone to check it!


Mike Hall

Shaun

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Nov 9, 2009, 4:39:46 PM11/9/09
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See how easy it is ?

You'd of thought Gordon Brown had pissed on his grave from the
reaction.

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Andy Pandy

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Nov 9, 2009, 6:01:08 PM11/9/09
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"Shaun" <shaun.jam...@ntlwolrd.com> wrote in message
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If you can't read.

> You'd of thought Gordon Brown had pissed on his grave from the
> reaction.

Maybe the MOD should have a training course for soldiers' parents on how to
react when your son or daughter gets killed and you get some illegible
scrawl off the PM.

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Ian Warren

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Nov 9, 2009, 6:15:12 PM11/9/09
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TV interview didn't impress much; couldn't even lift her head up to
acknowledge either the camera or the interviewer. Whole episode
stinks more than a barrel of stinky underpants.

Regards,

Ian W

MC

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Nov 9, 2009, 6:58:07 PM11/9/09
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allanbonnetracy wrote:

OK, so most of us think Brown is a twat but come on. There is such a
similarity between the surname James and Janes, especially when the
parents had the clever idea of giving him the name James as a christian
names also., I think Brown can be forgiven. I bet it is not the first
time the name has been misread, misspelled or misspoken. His name
would quite easily fit into some kind of tongue twister after all.

MC

hungerdunger

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Nov 9, 2009, 7:00:11 PM11/9/09
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"Usenet Nutter" <indivi...@takeoutmyteethgmail.com> wrote in message
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> EDIT ..I see it is a handwritten letter conforming to an MOD Draft. If
> his writing is that bad maybe a typed letter would be better .

Then he'd be blasted for sending an impersonal type-written letter instead
of a personalised hand-written one.
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G Daeb

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:05:05 AM11/10/09
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On Nov 9, 5:20 pm, allanbonnetracy <allanbonnetr...@ireland.com>
wrote:

> Even I think this is being a bit harsh but boy what is the matter with
> the man he could find an accident in a H&S office.

From whence has this myth come about that the
HSE offices are risk-free? Risk can be minimised,
no more.

> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8349757.stm
>
> Gordon Brown has telephoned the mother of a soldier killed in
> Afghanistan to apologise after apparently misspelling his name in a
> letter of sympathy.

G DAEB
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Nov 10, 2009, 2:14:09 AM11/10/09
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On Nov 9, 11:15 pm, Ian Warren <Sen...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 9 Nov 2009 20:29:03 -0000, "Andy Pandy"
>
>
>
>
>
> <spam8ti...@wonderful.spam.invalid> wrote:
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> >"Halmyre" <no.s...@this.address> wrote in message

> >news:MPG.256272f03...@news.tesco.net...
> >> In article <6a7d0ed3-1a3e-4756-b4c8-
> >> 3140f83c2...@k19g2000yqc.googlegroups.com>, allanbonnetr...@ireland.com

> >> says...
>
> >>> Even I think this is being a bit harsh but boy what is the matter with
> >>> the man he could find an accident in a H&S office.
>
> >>>http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8349757.stm
>
> >>> Gordon Brown has telephoned the mother of a soldier killed in
> >>> Afghanistan to apologise after apparently misspelling his name in a
> >>> letter of sympathy.
>
> >> The poor woman was so upset she went straight to the Sun! Can you say "put
> >> up
> >> job"?
>
> >She wanted to publicise what she regarded as a "hastily scrawled insult".
> >What better place to go than a mass circulation newspaper which doesn't much
> >like the PM?
>
> TV interview didn't impress much; couldn't even lift her head up to
> acknowledge either the camera or the interviewer.  Whole episode
> stinks more than a barrel of stinky underpants.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ian W- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

The soundbites on Radio 4's Today yesterday
sounded like the old electronic trickery they
used to use to mask the sounds of people's
voices.

I note the BBC are not being hounded by half
of Fleet Street's finest ex-staffers over what
an insulting treatment the production values
added up to in practice.

As soon as I heard he'd read the name out
wrong in Parliament I figured, ah, then that's
the name he was given. Like when there's a
"Aprilla", say, for sale in the local paper.

And checking it, or not, makes no odds unless
you are going outside of Number 10 and back to
the sources at the MOD.

For a bunch of USENET lampooners not to
have noticed this is hardly surprising; for the
entire news and commentary media to tacitly
prohibit the possibility smacks of a lack of
ethics (or a surplus of spin inducement?)
across the journalistic spectra - though
perhaps it's unfair to complain some airhead
who was once in a St Trinian's film didn't notice.

G Daeb

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:15:25 AM11/10/09
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On Nov 10, 12:00 am, "hungerdunger"
<hungerdun...@MARXvodafoneemail.co.uk> wrote:
> "Usenet Nutter" <individual...@takeoutmyteethgmail.com> wrote in message

>
> news:75kgf5td0k3eep0ke...@4ax.com...
>
> > EDIT ..I see it is a handwritten letter conforming to an MOD Draft. If
> > his writing is that bad maybe a typed letter would be better .
>
> Then he'd be blasted for sending an impersonal type-written letter instead
> of a personalised hand-written one.

"....signed with his own...rubber...stamp..."

fairly used with a nod to Roger Waters reckon.

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G Daeb

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Nov 10, 2009, 2:16:56 AM11/10/09
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On Nov 10, 7:14 am, G Daeb <sipston_...@my-deja.com> wrote:
for the
> entire news and commentary media to tacitly
> prohibit the possibility smacks of a lack of
> ethics (or a surplus of spin inducement?)
> across the journalistic spectra

Ooops, may have meant "speculum"

>
> G DAEB
> COPYRIGHT (C) 2009 SIPSTON

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Luke Curtis

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Nov 10, 2009, 11:46:30 AM11/10/09
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FFS the soldier fought and died for his country and his mother gets a
hastily scrawled note - written with a felt tip pen FFS - and
misspells his name *twice*, the surname and the first name which was
corrected.

Surely if you are writing that letter the *one* most important thing
you would make *absolutely* sure to get right is his name?

Why didn't he rewrite the letter if he knew he had made a mistake?

That man is a blundering asshole staggering from one disaster to
another - I read he didn't bow his head at the Remembrance day parade
on Sunday - how thick is this idiot?

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Nov 10, 2009, 12:51:34 PM11/10/09
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On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 18:01:46 +0100, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:

>On Tue, 10 Nov 2009 16:46:30 +0000, Luke Curtis <tlo...@NOSPAMgooglemail.com>
>wrote:


>
>>On 09 Nov 2009 23:58:07 GMT, "MC" <a...@any.any> wrote:
>>
>>>allanbonnetracy wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Even I think this is being a bit harsh but boy what is the matter with
>>>> the man he could find an accident in a H&S office.
>>>>
>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8349757.stm
>>>>
>>>> Gordon Brown has telephoned the mother of a soldier killed in
>>>> Afghanistan to apologise after apparently misspelling his name in a
>>>> letter of sympathy.
>>>
>>>OK, so most of us think Brown is a twat but come on. There is such a
>>>similarity between the surname James and Janes, especially when the
>>>parents had the clever idea of giving him the name James as a christian
>>>names also., I think Brown can be forgiven. I bet it is not the first
>>>time the name has been misread, misspelled or misspoken. His name
>>>would quite easily fit into some kind of tongue twister after all.
>>>
>>>MC
>>
>>FFS the soldier fought and died for his country and his mother gets a
>>hastily scrawled note - written with a felt tip pen FFS - and
>>misspells his name *twice*, the surname and the first name which was
>>corrected.
>

>and the mother cashed in on this by going to the Sun.


>
>>
>>Surely if you are writing that letter the *one* most important thing
>>you would make *absolutely* sure to get right is his name?
>>
>>Why didn't he rewrite the letter if he knew he had made a mistake?
>>
>>That man is a blundering asshole staggering from one disaster to
>>another - I read he didn't bow his head at the Remembrance day parade
>>on Sunday - how thick is this idiot?
>

>He is probably a lot brighter than you. Get a 'kin sense of proportion and
>don't let the gutter press form your ideas for you.

He's an anal-retentive idiot on the brink of collapse, a control-freak
and a whole case of nasties. He'll will probably resign on health
grounds before the end of January.


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Andy Pandy

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"Ian Warren" <Sen...@dsl.pipex.com> wrote in message
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>>>>
>>>> Even I think this is being a bit harsh but boy what is the matter
>>>> with
>>>> the man he could find an accident in a H&S office.
>>>>
>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8349757.stm
>>>>
>>>> Gordon Brown has telephoned the mother of a soldier killed in
>>>> Afghanistan to apologise after apparently misspelling his name in
>>>> a
>>>> letter of sympathy.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> The poor woman was so upset she went straight to the Sun! Can you
>>> say "put
>>> up
>>> job"?
>>
>>She wanted to publicise what she regarded as a "hastily scrawled
>>insult".
>>What better place to go than a mass circulation newspaper which
>>doesn't much
>>like the PM?
>
> TV interview didn't impress much; couldn't even lift her head up to
> acknowledge either the camera or the interviewer.

So she hasn't had the media training that politicians have. She also
might have been quite upset and emotional for some daft reason. SFW?

> Whole episode
> stinks more than a barrel of stinky underpants.

Erm, of what? Do you think she's a staunch Tory who thought she'd
exploit her own son's death to cause a bit or embarrasment to the PM
for party political reasons? Or what exactly?

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the_niner_nation

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Nov 11, 2009, 11:20:36 AM11/11/09
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"allanbonnetracy" <allanbo...@ireland.com> wrote in message
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>
> Even I think this is being a bit harsh but boy what is the matter with
> the man he could find an accident in a H&S office.
>
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/8349757.stm
>
> Gordon Brown has telephoned the mother of a soldier killed in
> Afghanistan to apologise after apparently misspelling his name in a
> letter of sympathy.
>

then the bint gets cash off " The Sun" for the transcript of the phone call
the Pm gave her....I REFUSE to believe she didnt get a backhander from 'the
scum' for doing this...it might really fuck her off, but the prime minister
gave more of a shit about her son than she did. end of the day, she gave her
child a retarded name, and despite this forced handicap, her son served and
died for his country...whilst his bint of a mother is up in arms at
recieving a personal note from the PM who makes the same mistake countless
others do when facing a retarded name.

JNugent

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Nov 11, 2009, 11:52:08 AM11/11/09
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Sheesh...

And I bet you think that the (Labour member) pensioner memorably beaten up
and heaved out by the Labour Party's thugs at their conference (for daring to
embarrass the leadership) also only got what he deserved.

the_niner_nation

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"JNugent" <J...@noparticularplacetogo.com> wrote in message
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yeah!!

that, too!!!!

i'ts a credit crunch, but i still think what she did was well out of order
in getting cheap cash form 'the scum' in that way, desecrting her brave son.
, im not a GB fan at all, but he got dealt a really shitty hand by this
woman...if he wrote a stock,standard letter, it's impersonal and if he hand
write to someone wth a fucked up name and makes an error then he's some
sort of insensitive moron...

that kid's mum did more wrong by him han the PM ever did. ( jamie janes..wtf
where they thinking??)

Halmyre

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Nov 11, 2009, 2:50:28 PM11/11/09
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In article <7m0dssF...@mid.individual.net>, sf49ers@removethis says...

I don't blame the mother for being angry, and I don't blame Brown for his
actions. I do think the Sun is at fault for exploiting the situation, but
then what else do you expect from that cunt Murdoch.

If GB has problems with his vision then it's a fucking terrible state of
affairs if he's reluctant to admit it because of what the press and the
opposition (and no doubt several of his "colleagues") would do to him.

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Calum

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Nov 11, 2009, 3:28:55 PM11/11/09
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Luke Curtis wrote:

> That man is a blundering asshole staggering from one disaster to
> another - I read he didn't bow his head at the Remembrance day parade
> on Sunday

It's hardly compulsory, Cameron and plenty others didn't do so today
during the two minute silence either.

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