O/T - MP3 players
Ed
Advice please
My son wants a Ben 10 (cartoon character) MP3 player for christmas.
This is just a basic MP3 player with interchangeable covers.
My question is, how will this work out on the PC where I keep all my
songs in iTunes? Will I be able to use iTunes to manage his machine?
Or will it come with its own song management software, requiring me to
duplicate all songs on the PC that I'll allow him to have on his
player?
Cheers
Ed
Dom Robinson
I would presume it uses MP3 files, since only Apple tends to do
everything different.
Mike Plowman
Itunes won't recognise it.
I would be fairtly confident that if it doesn't come with it's own
software, it will just appear under Windows as a removable device and
you just copy your mp3's on to it,
Ed
> On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 07:01:02 -0800 (PST), Ed
>
That's what I'm expecting, but given that all my songs are in iTunes,
I presume they're ripped as AAC or whatever an apple music file is
called. So will I be able to copy those onto the machine, or will I
have to rip the CDs again?
Dom Robinson
You can convert to MP3 somehow but it'd be better quality to rip 'em
again.
Abo
Rip them again with cdex or something
Jeff Lawrence
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> You can convert to MP3 somehow but it'd be better quality to rip 'em
> again.
Start again and rip 'em up?
Cheers
Jeff
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Dom Robinson
> "Dom Robinson" <pickp...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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> > You can convert to MP3 somehow but it'd be better quality to rip 'em
> > again.
>
> Start again and rip 'em up?
I was going to say that, but he might think I have an anti-Apple
stance (which I do) :)
Rip It Up was a great track at the time, as was another one-hit wonder
- Kissing The Pink's The Last Film.
DAB sounds worse than FM
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If you want to avoid degrading the audio quality you should rip them
from CD again then encode them to MP3. If your son isn't the most
discerning hi-fi listener yet, you could just decode from AAC to WAV
then encode from WAV to MP3 to save you having to rip the songs again.
This will degrade the audio quality though.
Now that memory capacity is so cheap, when you rip from CD you're best
off storing it as lossless audio (e.g. FLAC, or if you use iTunes use
Apple Lossless), so then you can convert to AAC or to MP3 from
lossless without degrading the quality and you don't have to re-rip
the audio each time.
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Calum
> If your son isn't the most
> discerning hi-fi listener yet, you could just decode from AAC to WAV
> then encode from WAV to MP3 to save you having to rip the songs again.
> This will degrade the audio quality though.
Why not just use iTunes' "Convert to MP3" feature...?
DAB sounds worse than FM
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Didn't know you could convert straight from AAC to MP3 in iTunes -
I've got iTunes but I don't use it.
Sofa - Spud
> On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 07:01:02 -0800 (PST), Ed
>
Unless it's Sony when it'll have SonicStage. What fun!
Wayne Stuart
> On Nov 6, 3:32 pm, Mike Plowman <mike.plow...@mydomain.net> wrote:
> > On Thu, 6 Nov 2008 07:01:02 -0800 (PST), Ed
> >
> > <Edward.A.Bow...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >Advice please
> >
> > >My son wants a Ben 10 (cartoon character) MP3 player for christmas.
> > >This is just a basic MP3 player with interchangeable covers.
> >
> > >My question is, how will this work out on the PC where I keep all my
> > >songs in iTunes? Will I be able to use iTunes to manage his machine?
> > >Or will it come with its own song management software, requiring me to
> > >duplicate all songs on the PC that I'll allow him to have on his
> > >player?
> >
> > >Cheers
> > >Ed
> >
> > Itunes won't recognise it.
> >
> > I would be fairtly confident that if it doesn't come with it's own
> > software, it will just appear under Windows as a removable device and
> > you just copy your mp3's on to it,
On Mac OS X, I can drag stuff straight off the iTunes library onto any
external volume, including non-iPods, but I don't know if you can with
Windows.
> That's what I'm expecting, but given that all my songs are in iTunes,
> I presume they're ripped as AAC or whatever an apple music file is
> called.
AAC is not an "Apple music file". Neither of the A's in AAC stands for
Apple. It's an industry standard audio format just as MP3 is, which
Apple simply adopted as their preferred standard due to it being...
better.
Many non-iPod digital music players will play them nowadays, but
probably not many of the cheaper ones.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advanced_Audio_Coding
As for whether yours are AAC or MP3, that depends on what you had it set
to do when you ripped them. You can set iTunes to rip in a number of
lossy and lossless formats at varying levels of quality. The choice
is... or rather was, yours.
> So will I be able to copy those onto the machine, or will I
> have to rip the CDs again?
Converting them as they stand will lose some quality - sort of like a
photocopy of a photocopy - but re-ripping them from the CDs will be
better.
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Dom Robinson
> "Calum" <com.gm...@scottishwildcat.nospam> wrote in message
>
> news:gevj6c$ug3$1...@reader01.news.esat.net
>
> > DAB sounds worse than FM wrote:
>
> >> If your son isn't the most
> >> discerning hi-fi listener yet, you could just decode from AAC to
> >> WAV
> >> then encode from WAV to MP3 to save you having to rip the songs
> >> again.
> >> This will degrade the audio quality though.
>
> > Why not just use iTunes' "Convert to MP3" feature...?
>
> Didn't know you could convert straight from AAC to MP3 in iTunes -
> I've got iTunes but I don't use it.
I was going to upload some of my Domsez things through it as a Podcast
but god knows how the thing works. You've got to upload it elsewhere
and then link it to them, or something, rather than just uploading to
Itunes and then away you go.
Marcus Houlden
wrote the following to uk.media.tv.misc:
Some instructions at http://radio.about.com/od/podcastin1/a/aa030805a.htm
and quite a few others if you Google for creating podcasts. You can also get
an RSS feed of your Youtube videos via
http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/api/users/<youtube username>/uploads although
mine (http://gdata.youtube.com/feeds/api/users/mhoulden1/uploads) doesn't
show anything at the moment.
mh.
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ceres
No, not so any more. I'm not sure that any Sonys now are hobbled by
SonicStage or any type of format restriction. The one I've had for
the last year or so certainly isn't, and it's a very nice little bit
of kit.
Mike Plowman
<domino...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>> Unless it's Sony when it'll have SonicStage. What fun!
>
>No, not so any more. I'm not sure that any Sonys now are hobbled by
>SonicStage or any type of format restriction. The one I've had for
>the last year or so certainly isn't, and it's a very nice little bit
>of kit.
Well I can go on record as saying I hate Itunes. I've had a new Ipod
for about a month and had to retag loads of mp3's just to get them to
list properly. I have around a hundred albums with the title Greatest
Hits. So artists tag is the artist, title tag is greatest hits. In
Itunes, the display okay, each one as a separate album, likewise on
the Ipos but when you actually open an album up, or play it, each one
contains every track that has Greatest Hits as an album title. Mailed
apple support re this and they said the album/artist tag would need to
be filled with the artist name. Did this and got the same result and
so, according to their support forums, so have many others. The only
way to get it to seprate them all was to make the title tag Artist -
Greatest Hits so that every album title was different.
And don't get me started on the stupid EU limits on output. The new
Ipod classic doesn't even have a hack to get round it. All I had to do
on my old Creative was flash it with the US firmware but I'm stick
with feeble volume on the Ipod. I can see it going on ebay before
long.
ceres
> And don't get me started on the stupid EU limits on output. The new
> Ipod classic doesn't even have a hack to get round it. All I had to do
> on my old Creative was flash it with the US firmware
I've got an old 20Gb Zen Touch that good old Vista doesn't want to
know, thanks to that nice Mr Gates. Is there any easy way to get it
working again do you know?
ceres
I wouldn't know. Sadly, I live in a practical parallel dimension
where no-one I know uses Linux.
Mike Plowman
RedChair Software did a piece of software called NoMad Explorer which
I think can be used under Vitsa. It would certainly say so on their
website.
If you 'really' need to use it and can spare aGig or so hard disk
space, why not install VirtualBox so you can run a version of XP
within Vista. I have to use this as we have a customer who's VPN will
not allow access with Vista. It's simple to install, you set up a
virtual PC then just install XP onto that. I know quite a few people
who have done that under Vista to be able to use old or unsupported
hardware.
I read that Windows 7 will have virtualisation built in but that's a
couple of years away yet.
Mike Plowman
>>
>>I read that Windows 7 will have virtualisation built in but that's a
>>couple of years away yet.
>
>I've read that Windows 7 is going to be released next year, whilst Microsoft
>still has some credibility.
And will only be any fun if you have a mousepad that will handle dual
pointing and/or a touch screen. Of all the computers I have, the only
that has is a mini notebook with a 10 inch screen!
I have to say the new HP Touchsmart range looks really nice but it's
1500 quid for the top spec one and I rather suspect the novelty of
touchscreen would wear off as quickly as my arms would get tired of
being helf up all the time.
Mike Plowman
>On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 12:58:43 +0000, Mike Plowman <mike.p...@mydomain.net>
>wrote:
>
>>On Fri, 07 Nov 2008 13:44:43 +0100, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>>>
>>>>I read that Windows 7 will have virtualisation built in but that's a
>>>>couple of years away yet.
>>>
>>>I've read that Windows 7 is going to be released next year, whilst Microsoft
>>>still has some credibility.
>>
>>And will only be any fun if you have a mousepad that will handle dual
>>pointing and/or a touch screen. Of all the computers I have, the only
>>that has is a mini notebook with a 10 inch screen!
>
>I can see more migrating to Linux. Applications run on my bought at the end of
>2002 Dell PC faster than they do under WinXP.
Certainly at the cheaper end of the Notebook market. Forgoing a
Windows license and having Linux on with a suite of apps for Word
processing , email, browser etc saves a considerable amount which can
be used to lower the price or add in more memory.
The EEE that I bought with XP on has less storage than its Linux
counterpart.
Sofa - Spud
This is a few years old. I found out my wife has bought the kids iPods
for Xmas recently, to replace their old MP3's. That'll be fun tp sort
out Xmas day - or more often the day after boxing day when everyone is
flopped around knackered!
Marcus Houlden
wrote the following to uk.media.tv.misc:
Install new firmware on an XP machine:
http://fr.europe.creative.com/knowledgebase/16737.asp (which is in English
despite the URL)
ceres
> On Fri, 7 Nov 2008 04:08:05 -0800 (PST), ceres <domino_the...@yahoo.co.uk>
> wrote the following to uk.media.tv.misc:
>
> > On 7 Nov, 09:43, Mike Plowman <mike.plow...@mydomain.net> wrote:
>
> >> And don't get me started on the stupid EU limits on output. The new
> >> Ipod classic doesn't even have a hack to get round it. All I had to do
> >> on my old Creative was flash it with the US firmware
>
> > I've got an old 20Gb Zen Touch that good old Vista doesn't want to
> > know, thanks to that nice Mr Gates. Is there any easy way to get it
> > working again do you know?
>
> despite the URL)
Thanks for the replies on this.
So, all I have to do now is find someone with a computer running XP
SP2 who won't mind me uninstalling their up and running Media Player
11, rolling them back to Media Player 10, and generally messing up
everything that works properly. Hmmm, not so easy if you don't move
in techie circles.
If only I'd known all that before my XP system went unexpectedly belly
up and my new computer came with Vista preinstalled, then I could of
course have guessed that Vista wouldn't work with the Zen and could
have pre-empted the situation.
Bill really doesn't like me much, does he?
Actually, to get some other programs running under Vista, I did set up
virtual computer running XP, but I then found the virtual computer
didn't want to talk to any peripherals or the soundcard, and at that
stage I felt I was in too deep and that I'd mess up Vista if I tried
anything more, so I gave up.
The question now is whether I really want to go to all the effort to
get the Zen working properly or whether I should leave it just as a
player of what it has on it, without being able to delete or add to
it. Oh, sod it, life's too short.
The other suggested answer, of using Nomad Explorer, unfortunately
doesn't seem to help either. There's no mention on their site of
Vista compatibility.
Mike Plowman
<domino...@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:
>Actually, to get some other programs running under Vista, I did set up
>virtual computer running XP, but I then found the virtual computer
>didn't want to talk to any peripherals or the soundcard, and at that
>stage I felt I was in too deep and that I'd mess up Vista if I tried
>anything more, so I gave up.
You would only need to install the driver for the Zen. You could do it
all without the virtual XP needing to use any if your other hardware.
Sound and video settings wouldn't be needed.
>get the Zen working properly or whether I should leave it just as a
>player of what it has on it, without being able to delete or add to
>it. Oh, sod it, life's too short.
But Britney has a new album coming out. What are you gonna do then?
:-)
Mike
>I've read that Windows 7 is going to be released next year, whilst Microsoft
>still has some credibility.
Microsoft have lost credibility numerous times in the past around the
time the following products hit the marketplace
Windows 3.1, 95, 98, ME, XP, Vista
The only good products have been DOS (most but not all versions),
Windows for Workgroups 3.11, and Windows 2000. 98SE just makes it into
the almost acceptable category.
All "office" products remain universally dire, as are Outhouse,
Outhouse Express and Exchange.
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> The only good products have been DOS (most but not all versions),
> Windows for Workgroups 3.11, and Windows 2000. 98SE just makes it into
> the almost acceptable category.
*yawn* Another naysayer. XP for one is superb.
> All "office" products remain universally dire, as are Outhouse,
> Outhouse Express and Exchange.
Outlook and OE are pretty much perfect in every way.
Ian
Ophelia
Heh, are you trying to start a riot?:))))
Ian F.
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> Heh, are you trying to start a riot?:))))
I can't help reacting to all the pathetic people who are so insanely jealous
of anyone's success that everything they manufacture is automatically crap!
Microsoft products are not crap - they are excellent.
Ian
Paul Hyett
uk.media.tv.misc :
>On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 13:44:44 -0000, "Ian F."
><wowfab...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
>>"Ophelia" <Oph...@Nix.co.uk> wrote in message
>>news:gf3s8e$ofd$2...@registered.motzarella.org...
>>
>>> Heh, are you trying to start a riot?:))))
>>
>>I can't help reacting to all the pathetic people who are so insanely jealous
>>of anyone's success that everything they manufacture is automatically crap!
>
>Are you serious? Did you ever try an alternative?
>
>>
>>Microsoft products are not crap - they are excellent.
>
>They attract viruses and spyware like crap. Did you ever wonder why?
>
Law of averages? So many people use them that virus writers know that's
their best opportunity for chaos.
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Paul Hyett
uk.media.tv.misc :
>>>>
>>>>Microsoft products are not crap - they are excellent.
>>>
>>>They attract viruses and spyware like crap. Did you ever wonder why?
>>>
>>Law of averages?
>
>
Do you know what a colloquialism is? :)
>>So many people use them that virus writers know that's
>>their best opportunity for chaos.
>
>because the OS is crap.
If that were really so, then MS wouldn't have been able to maintain a
near-monopoly for so long.
Ophelia
> On Sat, 08 Nov 2008 17:48:47 GMT, Paul Hyett
> <p...@nojunkmailplease.co.uk> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 at 16:43:07, Martin <m...@address.invalid> wrote in
>> uk.media.tv.misc :
>>
>>> On Sat, 8 Nov 2008 13:44:44 -0000, "Ian F."
>>> <wowfab...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> "Ophelia" <Oph...@Nix.co.uk> wrote in message
>>>> news:gf3s8e$ofd$2...@registered.motzarella.org...
>>>>
>>>>> Heh, are you trying to start a riot?:))))
>>>>
>>>> I can't help reacting to all the pathetic people who are so
>>>> insanely jealous of anyone's success that everything they
>>>> manufacture is automatically crap!
>>>
>>> Are you serious? Did you ever try an alternative?
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Microsoft products are not crap - they are excellent.
>>>
>>> They attract viruses and spyware like crap. Did you ever wonder why?
>>>
>> Law of averages?
>
>
>> their best opportunity for chaos.
>
Well, I can't say I have ever had an overwhelming need to change it.
Calum
> If that were really so, then MS wouldn't have been able to maintain a
> near-monopoly for so long.
They would and they have, partly through outrageous discounts to key
customers that other OS vendors can't afford to match, and partly
through vendor lock-in.
Ophelia
Ahv no hod ony needs whit boathers me pal
Calum
> Linux.
Indeed, but many companies want/need a long-term support contract as
well as the software, and MS will often throw in one of those more
cheaply than competing Linux or Unix distros can match, too.
Paul Hyett
wrote in uk.media.tv.misc :
That is true - however there is nothing to stop people switching to
another operating system as soon as they get the computer home, but most
people *don't*...