Age:-
For "what ever reason", they've "rationally" promoted ageism by leaving out
anyone over 35, yet 60% of the poplation are over 35.
Sex:-
No homos only hetros. Fair enough, since 1% or thereabouts are inclined this
way.
Race:-
This is where things become bizarre. Incredibly, they have decided to
completely leave out the glaringly token "blacks" this time, maybe because
the producers now recognize that 17% of the population aren't "black", and
instead gone for a more diverse but still eccentric representation of
Britain:-
Cameron, Justine, Nush, Scott, Sissy, Steph are classically British-Irish
looking. Anouska, Federico, Jon, Ray, Tania are mixed-race looking and Gos
looks as if his ancestors have mainly come from Pakistan. Since when is 50%
of Britain-Ireland non-British-Irish looking? 2 Scots, 1 Irish-citizen, no
Welsh! ROTFLMAO! Great example of painting yourself into a corner, or is
there a better phrase?
Size:-
Gos has obviously been put there to average things out nicely for the
benefit of those 40% of us that are over weight.
Anti-semitism:-
No jews represented. This is subliminal anti-semeticism at it's worse since
it's suggesting that the world would be a better place if no jews existed.
I'd love to know if there's an Israeli BB and how many Palestinians are
included.
Faceism:-
Yes, Faceism and not facism 'cos I like to play the face card and bully the
opposite sex into copulation. Apart from Jon, Ray and Gos, they're all so
pretty looking and look like the cast from Hollyoaks, don't they?
Smokerism:-
Might be my imagination but the non-smokers are being unfairly represented
given that 75% of them look as if they'd go into a comma if they breathed in
without a cigarette. They should try Nicorettes, since there is only a 2%
chance of them giving up.
Miscellaneous ISMs:-
No beardies or criminals. Mind you, I hope Anoska hasn't inherited her
"black" mother's alledged criminal tendencies.
Jmc
> Anti-semitism:-
> No jews represented. This is subliminal anti-semeticism at it's worse since
> it's suggesting that the world would be a better place if no jews existed.
> I'd love to know if there's an Israeli BB and how many Palestinians are
> included.
>
Justine's Jewish. Admittedly non-practising, but since when has religion been a factor in Big
Brother? There isn't an Israeli BB AFAIK, unless the list at this site is hopelessly out of date:
www.bigbrotherworld.tv
> Faceism:-
> Yes, Faceism and not facism 'cos I like to play the face card and bully the
> opposite sex into copulation. Apart from Jon, Ray and Gos, they're all so
> pretty looking and look like the cast from Hollyoaks, don't they?
>
They look TV-friendly, if that's what you mean.
> Smokerism:-
> Might be my imagination but the non-smokers are being unfairly represented
> given that 75% of them look as if they'd go into a comma if they breathed in
> without a cigarette. They should try Nicorettes, since there is only a 2%
> chance of them giving up.
>
C4 bosses should force them into submission by placing anti-smoking posters everywhere! Actually, I
wonder how long the peace and harmony would last if the HM were banned cigarettes?
> Miscellaneous ISMs:-
> No beardies or criminals. Mind you, I hope Anoska hasn't inherited her
> "black" mother's alledged criminal tendencies.
>
Criminal tendencies?
Paul.
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> Smokerism:-
> Might be my imagination but the non-smokers are being unfairly
> represented given that 75% of them look as if they'd go into a comma
> if they breathed in without a cigarette. They should try Nicorettes,
> since there is only a 2% chance of them giving up.
I think that would be the one thing that would do my head in if I was in
the BB household - the smokers are smoking everywhere... Ugh! Take the
disgusting things outside FFS!
You may get the impression that I'm not keen on smokers smoking near non-
smokers... you'd be right! ;-)
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>So, in which direction wrt political correctness has Big Brother gone this
>time?
>
>Age:-
>For "what ever reason", they've "rationally" promoted ageism by leaving out
>anyone over 35, yet 60% of the poplation are over 35.
Yep, it would be much more interesting with a bigger age range of
participants.
>Sex:-
>No homos only hetros. Fair enough, since 1% or thereabouts are inclined this
>way.
Some studies have shown that it could be up to 10%, but that's by the
by. If the objective is to encourage relationships then it makes sense
to have a balance of genders (and why not restrict it to single
people?). An all gay version might be interesting though ...
>
>Race:-
>This is where things become bizarre. Incredibly, they have decided to
>completely leave out the glaringly token "blacks" this time, maybe because
>the producers now recognize that 17% of the population aren't "black", and
>instead gone for a more diverse but still eccentric representation of
>Britain:-
>Cameron, Justine, Nush, Scott, Sissy, Steph are classically British-Irish
>looking. Anouska, Federico, Jon, Ray, Tania are mixed-race looking and Gos
>looks as if his ancestors have mainly come from Pakistan. Since when is 50%
>of Britain-Ireland non-British-Irish looking? 2 Scots, 1 Irish-citizen, no
>Welsh! ROTFLMAO! Great example of painting yourself into a corner, or is
>there a better phrase?
Looking round the office where I work in Leeds, it looks like a pretty
representative sample to me.
>
>Size:-
>Gos has obviously been put there to average things out nicely for the
>benefit of those 40% of us that are over weight.
Justine is also a normal size and shape for a woman, but the rest of
the women are alarmingly thin.
>
>Anti-semitism:-
>No jews represented. This is subliminal anti-semeticism at it's worse since
>it's suggesting that the world would be a better place if no jews existed.
>I'd love to know if there's an Israeli BB and how many Palestinians are
>included.
Again, I think Justine is a non-practicing Jew, but I think that none
of the other particpants apart from Cameron are particularly
religious. Perhaps people who are strongly religous would have
problems with not being able to go to church for 10 weeks, or would
have particular requirements for diet or whatever?
>
>Faceism:-
>Yes, Faceism and not facism 'cos I like to play the face card and bully the
>opposite sex into copulation. Apart from Jon, Ray and Gos, they're all so
>pretty looking and look like the cast from Hollyoaks, don't they?
Can't blame the producers on that one - I guess that they want people
who viewers will want to tune in and see on a regular basis. Having
said that, Jade was hardly an oil painting was she?
>Smokerism:-
>Might be my imagination but the non-smokers are being unfairly represented
>given that 75% of them look as if they'd go into a comma if they breathed in
>without a cigarette. They should try Nicorettes, since there is only a 2%
>chance of them giving up.
The amount of smoking and drinking is a bit worrying, considering the
demographic of the mostly young audience. Perhaps there is some
mileage in taking twelve smokers and then cutting their cigarette
rations down to see what would happen. One of the amusing things in
IACGMOOH was seeing Phil Tuffnell begging for fags ...
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Oh, God, yes -- I said last year that they should force the participants to
have a serious debate on something (e.g. the Euro, the monarchy, asylum) and
refuse to give them any alcohol or cigarettes until they have done so.
I was wondering which one would come out as the closet gay or lesbian, but
then perhaps it's a good idea they don't have someone overtly camp like Brian
as they just take over the show.
> Race:-
> This is where things become bizarre. Incredibly, they have decided to
> completely leave out the glaringly token "blacks" this time, maybe because
> the producers now recognize that 17% of the population aren't "black", and
> instead gone for a more diverse but still eccentric representation of
> Britain:-
> Cameron, Justine, Nush, Scott, Sissy, Steph are classically British-Irish
> looking. Anouska, Federico, Jon, Ray, Tania are mixed-race looking and Gos
> looks as if his ancestors have mainly come from Pakistan.
Gos is Indian, which I gathered when he said in his intro last Friday that
he's 31 and still lives with his parents - "It's an Indian thing".
No, Gos, it's a lazy thing.
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Yeah but a housemate would probably say something like "Yeah, Blair's
a wanker" and then we'd have to see the chickens consistently because
C4 are terrified of anything libellous, so we enjoy the silence
instead....
Nadia
Oh it's a good idea alright. The program would indeed revolve around
them, as often they think the world does. Last night I was enjoying a
quiet drink with my b/f and the guy at the table beside us - camp as a
Butlins megaopolis - was going on and on and on and on and on and on
and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on and on
and on and on and on and on and on and on about himself. Jesus, he
wouldn't shut up about with his opinions and his "woe is me" attitude
to life. Suck it up and deal. Sheesh. When he went to get a drink, I
overhead his suffering friends muttering to one another, "Blah blah
blah" and making little nattering motions with their hands.
We do NOT need one of those types in the house-hold.
The closet gay thing may be there but, if they're in the closet, it's
bloody unlikely to come out to a national TV audience. Be interesting
if you discover one of them is gay I guess in an offhand manner
without there having been any reason to think it before. But if
there's no TokenGay (representing between 5-10% of the population,
depending on the study you read), I won't be exactly crying...
Nadia
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If a tree falls in the forest and no one is around to see it do the
other trees make fun of it?
> > Miscellaneous ISMs:-
> > No beardies or criminals. Mind you, I hope Anoska hasn't inherited her
> > "black" mother's alledged criminal tendencies.
> >
> Criminal tendencies?
According to the Sunday people 25/05/03, she obtained a house for rent on
the basis of false information, job, references, the ability to pay etc and
stopped paying the rent after 3 months. As a result, she indirectly stole
£7000 in lost rent and was told to pay it back at £10 a week. Supposedly
she's defaulted on this now. No doubt, if true, she was doing what was best
for her family, but at the expense of another family.
Jmc
> Paul.
>
>
Maybe it ain't bit C4 mightn't show it 'coz it could offend someone
and ohhh look at the pretty poultry again...
Nadia
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He wasn`t overtly entertaining either.
mick
I always take camp to mean effeminate. Not so much to do with clothes.
mick
Maybe the nurture/nature debate equally applies to campness.
Brian was naturally that way whereas Josh had to acquire it...to
keep up with his Fruit Machine (Heaven) friends perhaps?
In answer to your question, for some reason I'm thinking Chris
Eubank.
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The definition is blurry but it's certainly not isolated to
femininity (or indeed a manner of speech). Clothes in
themselves can be camp - to the point that chaps and ten gallon
hats are now considered camp. 'Aint nothing effeminate about
chaps and ten gallon hats. ;)
Donning such gear might even be considered 'camping it up'.
Judging from some of Josh's clothes, he camps it up quite a lot.
(Pardon repeated letters; my words are doing the dyslexic dance)
In my opinion they've done a good job. they seem to have picked 12
people they thought would work well in this situation without much
heed to factors other than age.
> Age:-
> For "what ever reason", they've "rationally" promoted ageism by leaving out
> anyone over 35, yet 60% of the poplation are over 35.
What are your speech marks for?
BB isn't designed to, nor does it have to, reflect British society.
Since it's aimed at a young audience, and there have been problems
with older contestants, the contestants this time are all young.
> Sex:-
> No homos only hetros. Fair enough, since 1% or thereabouts are inclined this
> way.
"Fair enough"? And where d'you get the 1% figure from? I thought the
figure was closer to 10%.
Although none of the contestants is openly gay, and Endemol shouldn't
be criticised for that, the sexuality of 2 or 3 of the contestants is
open to question.
> Race:-
> This is where things become bizarre. Incredibly, they have decided to
> completely leave out the glaringly token "blacks" this time, maybe because
> the producers now recognize that 17% of the population aren't "black",
What does that mean? "17% of the population aren't black." ?? And more
mysterious speech marks.
> and
> instead gone for a more diverse but still eccentric representation of
> Britain:-
> Cameron, Justine, Nush, Scott, Sissy, Steph are classically British-Irish
> looking.
Justine? I spotted she was Jewish immediately.
> Anouska, Federico, Jon, Ray, Tania are mixed-race looking and Gos
> looks as if his ancestors have mainly come from Pakistan.
Anouska, Jon and Ray aren't "mixed-race looking"! They are mixed race.
Would you have put Fed in your MRL category if you hadn't heard his
name?
> Since when is 50%
> of Britain-Ireland non-British-Irish looking?
If we crudely count Gos as 1 and the other four MR contestants as a
half, we have 70% white in the house, which isn't far off the national
average in that age group.
And if you take a proper look at young Britain instead of being all
theoretical you'll see that young Britain is increasingly
mixed-race/mixed-ethnicity, and the house reflects this.
> 2 Scots, 1 Irish-citizen, no
> Welsh! ROTFLMAO! Great example of painting yourself into a corner, or is
> there a better phrase?
Since only about 5% of the population is Welsh, what's the problem?
Scottish overrepresentation is another topic.
> Size:-
> Gos has obviously been put there to average things out nicely for the
> benefit of those 40% of us that are over weight.
>
> Anti-semitism:-
> No jews represented. This is subliminal anti-semeticism at it's worse since
> it's suggesting that the world would be a better place if no jews existed.
> I'd love to know if there's an Israeli BB and how many Palestinians are
> included.
See above. Check your facts before crowing. (And for all we know some
of the other contestants may be part Jewish.)
> Faceism:-
> Yes, Faceism and not facism 'cos I like to play the face card and bully the
> opposite sex into copulation. Apart from Jon, Ray and Gos, they're all so
> pretty looking and look like the cast from Hollyoaks, don't they?
They look pretty ordinary to me.
> Smokerism:-
> Might be my imagination but the non-smokers are being unfairly represented
> given that 75% of them look as if they'd go into a comma if they breathed in
> without a cigarette. They should try Nicorettes, since there is only a 2%
> chance of them giving up.
This BB house is starting off relatively smoke-free and pretty
representative of the population. Only Sissy looks like a full-time
smoker, plus 3 other girls and a couple of the guys more
occasional/social smokers.
> Miscellaneous ISMs:-
> No beardies or criminals. Mind you, I hope Anoska hasn't inherited her
> "black" mother's alledged criminal tendencies.
No comment.
Where's IQ on your list? Jon's the only one I've seen reading a book.
Adrian
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The ol' "eating a banana sideways" party trick eh?
Red.
Reading that has just reminded me of something. When Anouska was voted off, what was it her mother
whispered to her outside? Someone else here said it was something like 'Don't tell them about...',
but I couldn't hear it properly thanks to C4's piss-poor sound that night.
Paul
>>>>He might not masturbate.
It might be somewhat of a shock to some of you media-poodles but
politicians (along with 'celebrities') shit, piss, fart, scratch and
jerk-off. And their shit isn't any sweeter than any of ours.
At the G8 summit tomorrow Chirac, Putin, Blair and Schroder
(obviously) will all be jerking off at some point during the
proceedings. (Not with each other mind you - well, Chirac and Schroder
might I suppose). You think they give a shit about the Congo? Of
course they don't, they are eyeing up all the dolly-birds.
>> I don't know... her mouth does look accommodating.
No room - Prescott parks his two jags in there overnight. Not only has
Cherie got a mouth like Blackwall Tunnel, she also has cheeks like a
pelican's beak, Jack Straw often hides in her cheek 'pouches'
apparently.
Its a truly scary political climate we are living through.
But don't worry too much, by my calculations the alien invasion fleet
is only 6 light years away and unless they get lost at south mims
services, they'll be here in a fortnight.
Gilo.
Adrian wrote
>Ray aren't "mixed-race looking"! They are mixed race.
Ray's mixed race? I just thought he was a pikey... ;)
How does anyone else find much new to talk about with their parents over the
course of a week? :)
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Dom wrote
>There's something definitely not right about him
I agree. and btw whats with that weird accent? its not scottish, it sounds more
newcastle etc. n does anyone really say aboot?:0
>How does anyone else find much new to talk about with their parents over the
>course of a week? :
dont look at me I dont talk to mine at all!
> I agree. and btw whats with that weird accent? its not scottish, it
> sounds more newcastle etc.
What's weird about it? He's from Orkney, he's got a fairly standard
Orcadian accent. Which probably does sound a bit camp, but I'm sure
there must be levels of campness within Orkney.