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g00se
I always thought that prince bigears was the successor to the throne... what
gives Willy automatic succession? Or is ITV spouting more shite?
:)
NJJH
wrote:
>Prince William at 21
>
>I always thought that prince bigears was the successor to the throne... what
>gives Willy automatic succession? Or is ITV spouting more shite?
He's Prince Bigears' eldest son, and as aforementioned prince can't
have another eldest son, he's a shoe-in for the throne when the time
comes.
NJJH
Col
"NJJH" <ni...@turnips.fsworld.co.uk> wrote in message
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Or perhaps we are being 'softened up' for the succession to skip a generation?
Col
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And they need a GOOD wash!
Kouros
news:bc85n0$ga1j0$1...@ID-120826.news.dfncis.de:
>> >I always thought that prince bigears was the successor to the
>> >throne... what gives Willy automatic succession? Or is ITV spouting
>> >more shite?
>>
>> He's Prince Bigears' eldest son, and as aforementioned prince can't
>> have another eldest son, he's a shoe-in for the throne when the time
>> comes.
>
> Or perhaps we are being 'softened up' for the succession to skip a
> generation?
Hmm - I remember a number of years ago, one of them said to the other they
wanted that one to be King - of course, I can't remember who said it to
whom, so it's not much use really.
NJJH
I think that William once commented that his brother was lucky, as he
could be a fireman, whereas William had to be the King.
If the Queen 'abdicates in favour of William', as is often suggested
she might, is that a Constitutional Thing? Does the crown then *have*
to pass to William?
Personally I'm in favour of that happenning; I know these
documentaries have been fawning, but William seems (given his
life-of-luxury background, masses of money, etc) like a fairly
grounded young man and I'd be pleased to have him as King. He'd make
an excellent figurehead and would probably relax and enjoy his job
(tourist magnet), as opposed to his father who would probably try to
meddle in politics and architecture and get his head chopped off like
his namesakes.
How dissapointing for Charles, though.
NJJH
Kouros
news:307fevo4i96t1ta5u...@4ax.com:
>>Hmm - I remember a number of years ago, one of them said to the other
>>they wanted that one to be King - of course, I can't remember who said
>>it to whom, so it's not much use really.
>
> I think that William once commented that his brother was lucky, as he
> could be a fireman, whereas William had to be the King.
Ah, sorry - Either Bigears said it to William, or the other way around. I
was talking about son and father, not the two sons.
NJJH
Well, what I said happened too.
NJJH
Kouros
news:tv7fev0voque0hrqf...@4ax.com:
>>>>Hmm - I remember a number of years ago, one of them said to the
>>>>other they wanted that one to be King - of course, I can't remember
>>>>who said it to whom, so it's not much use really.
>>>
>>> I think that William once commented that his brother was lucky, as
>>> he could be a fireman, whereas William had to be the King.
>>
>>Ah, sorry - Either Bigears said it to William, or the other way
>>around. I was talking about son and father, not the two sons.
>
> Well, what I said happened too.
Fair enough, I just wanted to make sure there weren't any crossed wires,
which I realised there could be after reading your message. Entirely my
fault for not being more specific, of course (and for drinking too much
before going online and trying to remember a news article from three years
ago...)
jules
"NJJH" <ni...@turnips.fsworld.co.uk> wrote in message news:307fevo4i96t1ta5u...@4ax.com...
|
| If the Queen 'abdicates in favour of William', as is often suggested
I may just be really squiffy - but watching this show tonight, I got the feeling that's exactly what
they are trying to tell us.
NJJH
Ideological State Apparatus, baby... those media studies lessons
weren't for nothing.
NJJH
Barris
announced:
>I think that William once commented that his brother was lucky, as he
>could be a fireman, whereas William had to be the King.
I'm sure William could find some part-time painting and decorating
jobs if he really wanted too....
>If the Queen 'abdicates in favour of William', as is often suggested
The Queen won't abdicate.
>Personally I'm in favour of that happenning; I know these
>documentaries have been fawning, but William seems (given his
>life-of-luxury background, masses of money, etc) like a fairly
>grounded young man and I'd be pleased to have him as King.
Oh come on, what do we *really* know about William, you said yourself
that the documentaries are 'fawning'. William is as arrogant as the
rest of them and with the Spencer gene floating around in his head he
is probably as mad as a hatter to boot. I suspect he'll piss off to
America and get assinated by some loon.
Damot
<snip>
>Personally I'm in favour of that happenning; I know these
>documentaries have been fawning, but William seems (given his
>life-of-luxury background, masses of money, etc) like a fairly
>grounded young man and I'd be pleased to have him as King. He'd make
>an excellent figurehead and would probably relax and enjoy his job
>(tourist magnet), as opposed to his father who would probably try to
>meddle in politics and architecture and get his head chopped off like
>his namesakes.
>
I hope he just goes and does what he wants to do. He could take his
mum's money and bugger off somewhere.
I think that would be great, forget all the Royal rubbish and have
some fun.
Mark Hewitt
"Damot" <no...@none.com> wrote in message
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As long as it's on his own money! We pay for a king, we expect a king type
person!
Kurious Oranj
> "Barris" <Bar...@new-path.com> wrote in message
> news:bj4gev08pkpo5pf0d...@4ax.com...
>
>
>>Oh come on, what do we *really* know about William, you said yourself
>>that the documentaries are 'fawning'. William is as arrogant as the
>>rest of them and with the Spencer gene floating around in his head he
>>is probably as mad as a hatter to boot.
>>
>
>
>
how do you know that?
Kurious Oranj
'like a fairly grounded young man'?!?!?!
what, one who plays polo, does fox hunting, goes skiing at Klosters and
has a footman bring him a biscuit and a cup of tea when he's at home,
and someone to run his bath too.
Of course, they'll tell you about how he likes "normal" things like
football and how he does the washing up at the university, like normal
people do. It's nearly all spin.
Do you really think that this guy who is never going to have to, as
Jarvis Cocker would say "watch roaches climb the wall" is normal? He's
never going to have to worry about whether he gets fired from his
extraordinarily paid job - because it's his job. It's why Charles is
such a twat. HE can't see why everyone can't have georgian architecture
or eat organic food - because he doesn't have to balance the books, and
never had to. The people they meet are mostly fawning creeps, and they
never are expected to be scrutinised by parliament.
He apparantly said something about hating not having any privacy. Tough.
It comes with the job, and if you don't want it, say you don't and
then tell the press to piss off. The only thing the monarchy now exist
for is to sell red top newspapers. They've become celebs, although posh
and becks do it better.
Soon enough, the press will start revealing what William is really up
to. Until now, they've kept away from him, and been given nice, tame
photo opportunities. Which whilst he is at uni is a sensible thing for
the press - people think he should be left alone to study. When he comes
out of uni, they'll start digging for dirt again.
Dom Robinson
> On Wed, 11 Jun 2003 22:22:17 +0100, NJJH <ni...@turnips.fsworld.co.uk>
> wrote:
> <snip>
> >Personally I'm in favour of that happenning; I know these
> >documentaries have been fawning, but William seems (given his
> >life-of-luxury background, masses of money, etc) like a fairly
> >grounded young man and I'd be pleased to have him as King. He'd make
> >an excellent figurehead and would probably relax and enjoy his job
> >(tourist magnet), as opposed to his father who would probably try to
> >meddle in politics and architecture and get his head chopped off like
> >his namesakes.
> >
>
> I hope he just goes and does what he wants to do. He could take his
> mum's money and bugger off somewhere.
>
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Dom Robinson
dontbothersendi...@nowhereinthewholewideworldoftharn.com says...
> Do you really think that this guy who is never going to have to, as
> Jarvis Cocker would say "watch roaches climb the wall" is normal? He's
> never going to have to worry about whether he gets fired from his
> extraordinarily paid job - because it's his job. It's why Charles is
> such a twat. HE can't see why everyone can't have georgian architecture
> or eat organic food
Bleah, why would anyone want to? A colleague bought an organic peach from
Sainsburys last week and found it was so full of life, when he removed the
stone there was a healthy long earwig inside!
> and they never are expected to be scrutinised by parliament.
Like the BBC, then.
Jacqueline
>
> In article <3ee87...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>,
> > or eat organic food
>
> Bleah, why would anyone want to? A colleague bought an organic peach from
> Sainsburys last week and found it was so full of life, when he removed the
> stone there was a healthy long earwig inside!
But if the earwig was organic you can't really complain ;o)
Jacqueline
Dom Robinson
Mike Swift
<Reddw...@btinternet.com> writes
>Or perhaps we are being 'softened up' for the succession to skip a
>generation?
I'm not particularly royalist or anti but I do hope so, King Charles III
and Queen Camilla would turn me into a raving republican.
Mike
--
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Kirkheaton We look on them only as rather mad Norwegians.
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Farmer Alfalfa
"Dom Robinson" <murphyi...@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:MPG.1952b7602...@news.cis.dfn.de...
> In article <3EE89A74...@gmx.co.uk>, jacqueli...@gmx.co.uk
says...
> > Dom Robinson wrote:
> > >
> > > In article <3ee87...@mk-nntp-2.news.uk.tiscali.com>,
> > > > or eat organic food
> > >
> > > Bleah, why would anyone want to? A colleague bought an organic peach
from
> > > Sainsburys last week and found it was so full of life, when he removed
the
> > > stone there was a healthy long earwig inside!
> >
> > But if the earwig was organic you can't really complain ;o)
> >
> Somehow I don't think he really wanted to taste-test it to find out :)
At least he found a whole one!
F A
Jacqueline
>
> In article <3EE89A74...@gmx.co.uk>, jacqueli...@gmx.co.uk says...
> > > Sainsburys last week and found it was so full of life, when he removed the
> > > stone there was a healthy long earwig inside!
> >
> > But if the earwig was organic you can't really complain ;o)
> >
> Somehow I don't think he really wanted to taste-test it to find out :)
I found some human fingernail clippings in a packet of Sainsbury's own
brand custard creams. They weren't organic, AFAIK.
Jacqueline
Farmer Alfalfa
"Jacqueline" <jacqueli...@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
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Non-organic fingernail-clippings?
Were they false nails?
Or had they been sprayed with fertiliser?
We need to know!
F A
Dom Robinson
Me, however, I'm cleaning the toilet out with used teabags... before I make
another brew with them. Then I'm going to check my bedroom drawer to pick out
my monthly change of underwear.
Dan Brusca
> she might, is that a Constitutional Thing? Does the crown then *have*
> to pass to William?
The Queen won't abdicate. Ever. She'll just get even older and die and
Charles will become King.
There's nothing to say that the crown *must* pass to any particular
individual... well, that's not entirely true, the crown does pass to the
next in the order of succession, but there's nothing to stop them just
passing it on to the next in the list. Charles, William, Harry, Andrew,
Eugenie, Beatrice, Edward, Anne etc...
NJJH
wrote:
But no-one has answered my question: if the queen 'abdicates' (or
dies) in favour of William, does the crown then pass to him?
Can the present monarch choose the heir?
NJJH
e
nah
--
e
I think people tend to forget that trees are living creatures. They're
sort of like dogs. Huge, quiet, motionless dogs, with bark instead of
fur.
AlanWilliams
No. It would require an act of parliament to alter the succession. The Act
of Settlement of 1701 (which handled the switch from the Stuarts to the
Hanoverians) states that it goes to the heirs of the Electress Sophia
(granddaughter of James I/VI). Until parliament passed an act, the
abdication of the Queen would have no effect. Even if she did abdicate,
with parliament's agreement, it would still require an act (possibly the
same one) to rule Charles out of the succession.
When Edward VIII abdicated, it did not take effect until parliament passed
the "His Majesty's Declaration of Abdication Act". There was some
discussion at that time of ruling out George VI because of his stammer and
rumoured mental instability.
So to summarize, it's parliament who chooses the monarch.
> NJJH
Alan
Jacqueline
>
> "Jacqueline" <jacqueli...@gmx.co.uk> wrote in message
> news:3EE8BC75...@gmx.co.uk...
> > brand custard creams. They weren't organic, AFAIK.
>
> Non-organic fingernail-clippings?
From what I could tell they were non-organic real clippings. Although
they did have dirt on them which is usually sign of 'organic' produce.
Wedged in the side of the creamy bit, they were.
Jacqueline
Mike Swift
emvasia.freeserve.co.uk> writes
>So to summarize, it's parliament who chooses the monarch.
>
>> NJJH
So it'll be King Tony and Queen Cherie then?
Ben Padstow
wrote:
>Prince William at 21
>
>I always thought that prince bigears was the successor to the throne... what
>gives Willy automatic succession? Or is ITV spouting more shite?
From the subject line, I thought you were talking about this:
http://www.dreamboys-uk.com/
Robin Chapman
>> If the Queen 'abdicates in favour of William', as is often suggested
>> she might, is that a Constitutional Thing? Does the crown then *have*
>> to pass to William?
>
> The Queen won't abdicate. Ever. She'll just get even older and die and
> Charles will become King.
Except if Chas dies first.
--
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"His mind has been corrupted by colours, sounds and shapes."
The League of Gentlemen
Dom Robinson
r...@ivorynospamtower.freeserve.co.uk says...
> Dan Brusca wrote:
>
> >> If the Queen 'abdicates in favour of William', as is often suggested
> >> she might, is that a Constitutional Thing? Does the crown then *have*
> >> to pass to William?
> >
> > The Queen won't abdicate. Ever. She'll just get even older and die and
> > Charles will become King.
>
> Except if Chas dies first.
>
>
Andy Mabbett
<ma...@markhewittDotCoDotUk.spammers.will.die> writes
>We pay for a king, we expect a king type person!
I'd be happier with a refund.
--
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<http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/2970279.stm>
<http://web.amnesty.org/library/Index/ENGAMR510582003?open&of=ENG-USA>
Johannes H Andersen
Such rules of succession are made by and for the current royalty. To be
King, all you have to do is to stand up on a cardboard box and announce:
"Now I'm the King, OK". Not everybody will agree with that, but that's
their problem or misfortune. That is in fact how Kings often came to
power in the past. Once in power, they will naturally try to establish
rules of succession from their own family.
Thanatos
<usenet...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote:
>In message <bc9est$m3n$1...@ucsnew1.ncl.ac.uk>, Mark Hewitt
><ma...@markhewittDotCoDotUk.spammers.will.die> writes
>>We pay for a king, we expect a king type person!
>
>I'd be happier with a refund.
Did you keep the receipt?
Andy Mabbett
<Than...@blueREMOVEyonder.co.uk> writes
>>I'd be happier with a refund.
>
>Did you keep the receipt?
Yes, I have all my P60s.
AlanWilliams
"Johannes H Andersen" <jo...@sizefitter.com> wrote in message
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That is so 17th century!
The succession to the British monarchy is determined by acts of parliament
and that has been accepted by the monarchs since at least 1701. Even before
then, the Norman and Plantagenet kings of England regularly got parliament
to endorse their rule. Just two kings after William the Conquerer, Stephen
of Blois had a council to accept him over his older brother and the
legitimate heiress Matilda (mother of Henry II and grandmother of Richard
the Lionheart and John, boo hiss). I think even William II Rufus had a
council to override his brother's claims. So, since the Norman conquest,
councils and parliaments always had the right to endorse the monarch. Since
at least 1701 they have had the official right to choose the monarch.
That's just England, don't know about Scotland but they certainly threw out
Mary QoS and replaced her with her son James VI.
Alan (in pedant mode)
Gordon Davie
> In message <5d2nevcp0gghbpdbr...@4ax.com>, Thanatos
> <Than...@blueREMOVEyonder.co.uk> writes
>>> I'd be happier with a refund.
>>
>> Did you keep the receipt?
>
> Yes, I have all my P60s.
But they won't run anything more recent than Windows 3.1.
--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland
"Slipped the surly bonds of Earth...to touch the face of God"