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GordonD

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May 26, 2012, 4:23:56 AM5/26/12
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I thought there would be lots of comments about this...

I was disappointed - not nearly as good as I was expecting it to be. I won't
say that Shatner was pissed but he did seem to be having a lot of trouble
reading the autocue. And it's clear that he doesn't mind being the butt of
the jokes (as seen in 'Free Enterprise') yet that sort of thing was sadly
absent.

I did fear the worst when the studio lights came on at the beginning and the
host's chair was empty - *surely* they weren't going to 'beam him in', which
has to be the biggest cliché on TV. Fortunately they didn't, but had the
panel at the back slide open with a 'whoosh' like the doors on the
Enterprise.

Overall, a missed opportunity, and I won't be holding my breath for a return
visit.
--
Gordon Davie
Edinburgh, Scotland

"Slipped the surly bonds of Earth...to touch the face of God."

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Jerry Brown

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May 26, 2012, 4:33:56 AM5/26/12
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On Sat, 26 May 2012 09:23:56 +0100, "GordonD" <g.d...@btinternet.com>
wrote:

>I thought there would be lots of comments about this...
>
>I was disappointed - not nearly as good as I was expecting it to be. I won't
>say that Shatner was pissed but he did seem to be having a lot of trouble
>reading the autocue. And it's clear that he doesn't mind being the butt of
>the jokes (as seen in 'Free Enterprise') yet that sort of thing was sadly
>absent.
>
>I did fear the worst when the studio lights came on at the beginning and the
>host's chair was empty - *surely* they weren't going to 'beam him in', which

That reminds me; was anyone reading this present at the recording of
the Tom Baker episode? He materialised to the TARDIS noise and got a
huge laugh, which make me wonder what the audience were actually
reacting to (pre-recorded video of the effect maybe, or did he tell a
joke which was cut in post?).

>has to be the biggest cliché on TV. Fortunately they didn't, but had the
>panel at the back slide open with a 'whoosh' like the doors on the
>Enterprise.
>
>Overall, a missed opportunity, and I won't be holding my breath for a return
>visit.

--
Jerry Brown

A cat may look at a king
(but probably won't bother)

Ar

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May 26, 2012, 5:13:27 AM5/26/12
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On 26/05/12 09:29, Martin wrote:
> He made me laugh. They have had much worse.

Roy "Tub of lard" Hattersley?

Thumper

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May 26, 2012, 10:35:04 AM5/26/12
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"GordonD" <g.d...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>I thought there would be lots of comments about this...
>
> I was disappointed - not nearly as good as I was expecting it to be. I
> won't say that Shatner was pissed but he did seem to be having a lot of
> trouble reading the autocue. And it's clear that he doesn't mind being the
> butt of the jokes (as seen in 'Free Enterprise') yet that sort of thing
> was sadly absent.
>
> I did fear the worst when the studio lights came on at the beginning and
> the host's chair was empty - *surely* they weren't going to 'beam him in',
> which has to be the biggest cliché on TV. Fortunately they didn't, but had
> the panel at the back slide open with a 'whoosh' like the doors on the
> Enterprise.
>
> Overall, a missed opportunity, and I won't be holding my breath for a
> return visit.
>
I watched it, thought it was alright. I also wondered if some of the
mistakes were deliberate looking for a laugh or because he was really
misreading the auto cue.

GordonD

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May 26, 2012, 1:58:37 PM5/26/12
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"Thumper" <thum...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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>
> "GordonD" <g.d...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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>>I thought there would be lots of comments about this...
>>
>> I was disappointed - not nearly as good as I was expecting it to be. I
>> won't say that Shatner was pissed but he did seem to be having a lot of
>> trouble reading the autocue. And it's clear that he doesn't mind being
>> the butt of the jokes (as seen in 'Free Enterprise') yet that sort of
>> thing was sadly absent.
>>
>> I did fear the worst when the studio lights came on at the beginning and
>> the host's chair was empty - *surely* they weren't going to 'beam him
>> in', which has to be the biggest clich� on TV. Fortunately they didn't,
>> but had the panel at the back slide open with a 'whoosh' like the doors
>> on the Enterprise.
>>
>> Overall, a missed opportunity, and I won't be holding my breath for a
>> return visit.
>>
> I watched it, thought it was alright. I also wondered if some of the
> mistakes were deliberate looking for a laugh or because he was really
> misreading the auto cue.

I've actually rewatched it and enjoyed it more the second time.

Gareth Owen

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May 26, 2012, 2:27:12 PM5/26/12
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Shatner's performance reminded me of his role as a gaff prone , possibly senile, senior partner in Boston Legal. So I'd be betting that he was playing a part.

Found it the funniest episode since Bruce Forsyth hosted it (different strokes etc.) At least Hislop seemed to get the popular culture reference this time round.

Still out-classed by its progenitor The News Quiz (Radio 4 , 2.5 hours earlier.)
Gareth
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Martin J

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May 26, 2012, 3:57:53 PM5/26/12
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"GordonD" <g.d...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
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> I've actually rewatched it and enjoyed it more the second time.
> --

I agree - I'm going to watch the extended version tomorrow


G Daeb

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May 27, 2012, 6:17:28 AM5/27/12
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On May 26, 9:33 am, Jerry Brown <je...@jwbrown.co.uk.invalid> wrote:
> On Sat, 26 May 2012 09:23:56 +0100, "GordonD" <g.da...@btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
> >I thought there would be lots of comments about this...
>
> >I was disappointed - not nearly as good as I was expecting it to be. I won't
> >say that Shatner was pissed but he did seem to be having a lot of trouble
> >reading the autocue. And it's clear that he doesn't mind being the butt of
> >the jokes (as seen in 'Free Enterprise') yet that sort of thing was sadly
> >absent.
>
> >I did fear the worst when the studio lights came on at the beginning and the
> >host's chair was empty - *surely* they weren't going to 'beam him in', which
>
> That reminds me; was anyone reading this present at the recording of
> the Tom Baker episode? He materialised to the TARDIS noise and got a
> huge laugh, which make me wonder what the audience were actually
> reacting to (pre-recorded video of the effect maybe, or did he tell a
> joke which was cut in post?).

It depends on how they shepherd the audiences for
HIGNFY, to an extent.

It could have been a response to a warm-up joke or
it could be a show in which they use cue-cards (with
a word on each, like "laugh", "boo", "groan" etc) to
lead the audiences' responses at key parts.

> >has to be the biggest cliché on TV. Fortunately they didn't, but had the
> >panel at the back slide open with a 'whoosh' like the doors on the
> >Enterprise.

No, I think you're just getting a bit distracted by his
being an American.

I think it was an episode of "Shatner My Dad Says"
that saw him playing up against the guy who played
Martin Crane in Frasier as ex-Forces buddies who fell
out over a point of political correctness--this being the
presence of a gay housekeeper replete with full-voiced
role in a barber-shop quartet and borderline OCD attention
to detail whilst ironing/cooking/cleaning...

> >Overall, a missed opportunity, and I won't be holding my breath for a return
> >visit.

> --
> Jerry Brown
>
> A cat may look at a king
> (but probably won't bother)

G DAEB
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GordonD

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May 27, 2012, 8:50:39 AM5/27/12
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"G Daeb" <sipst...@my-deja.com> wrote in message
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> No, I think you're just getting a bit distracted by his
> being an American.


He isn't one.

Thumper

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May 27, 2012, 9:13:02 AM5/27/12
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> On Sat, 26 May 2012 18:58:37 +0100, "GordonD" <g.d...@btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>>"Thumper" <thum...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>>news:yS5wr.976555$xD4.3...@fx06.am4...
>>> "GordonD" <g.d...@btinternet.com> wrote in message
>>> news:a2bi8t...@mid.individual.net...
>>>> Overall, a missed opportunity, and I won't be holding my breath for a
>>>> return visit.
>>>>
>>> I watched it, thought it was alright. I also wondered if some of the
>>> mistakes were deliberate looking for a laugh or because he was really
>>> misreading the auto cue.
>>
>>I've actually rewatched it and enjoyed it more the second time.
>
> I sometimes find HIGNFY an ordeal to sit through but this time I might
> even watch the extended version too. I thought it was much better and
> funnier than it usually is, thanks almost entirely to Shatner. Brooker
> in particular may as well have not even been there.
>
The great mystery about Brooker was how did he manage to pull Konnie Huq.

Robert Neville

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May 27, 2012, 10:10:19 AM5/27/12
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G Daeb <sipst...@my-deja.com> wrote:

>No, I think you're just getting a bit distracted by his
>being an American.

Shatner is Canadian...

Basil Jet

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May 27, 2012, 12:56:49 PM5/27/12
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Did he fake an Iowa accent in Star Trek?

Brian Watson

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May 27, 2012, 4:53:46 PM5/27/12
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"Basil Jet" <jo...@journeyflow.spamspam.com> wrote in message
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He faked competence.

:-)

--
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."


Felicity S.

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May 27, 2012, 5:48:19 PM5/27/12
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GordonD wrote:

> I thought there would be lots of comments about this...

Some of us only ever watch the extended version.


> I was disappointed - not nearly as good as I was expecting it to be. I
> won't say that Shatner was pissed but he did seem to be having a lot of
> trouble reading the autocue.

That was clearly an act.


> I did fear the worst when the studio lights came on at the beginning and
> the host's chair was empty - *surely* they weren't going to 'beam him
> in', which has to be the biggest cliché on TV.

I feared that too, which was how we were all meant to react to this joke.


> Fortunately they didn't, but had the panel at the back slide open with a
> 'whoosh' like the doors on the Enterprise.

If you look closely, the 'doors' did a more complex little dance.


> Overall, a missed opportunity, and I won't be holding my breath for a
> return visit.

(later)

> I've actually rewatched it and enjoyed it more the second time.

There you go! :)


Fliss

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She said: Sa-anta Claus is coming to town.
She said: Just seeing a Santa... Shall I try a Santa?
How the hell do you draw a Santa Claus?

Felicity S.

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May 27, 2012, 5:49:20 PM5/27/12
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Robert Neville wrote:

> G Daeb wrote:

>> No, I think you're just getting a bit distracted by his
>> being an American.

> Shatner is Canadian...

Canadians *are* American, they just don't like to admit it.


Fliss

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She said: Are you all right in there?
He said: I just got a bit of a fright - on a plus
side, though, I've found the key.

Robert Neville

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May 27, 2012, 10:51:41 PM5/27/12
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"Felicity S." <Fl...@rdsqurrl.com> wrote:

>Canadians *are* American, they just don't like to admit it.

Ah... That would be similar to Kiwis are like Aussies, they just don't like to
admit it then?

Max Demian

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May 28, 2012, 2:03:37 AM5/28/12
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"Robert Neville" <do...@bother.com> wrote in message
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And Irish are British...

--
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Norman Wells

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May 28, 2012, 4:14:29 AM5/28/12
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Well, they always used to be, and those in the north still are.

moonlightin

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(later)

> I've actually rewatched it and enjoyed it more the second time.

There you go! :)


Fliss


Ditto

What I liked about the extended edition was the enjoyment that the panel was
shown to be getting from Shatner. It revived a tired format somewhat.

Skeats

GordonD

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May 28, 2012, 6:50:42 AM5/28/12
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"Felicity S." <Fl...@rdsqurrl.com> wrote in message
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> Robert Neville wrote:
>
>> G Daeb wrote:
>
>>> No, I think you're just getting a bit distracted by his
>>> being an American.
>
>> Shatner is Canadian...
>
> Canadians *are* American, they just don't like to admit it.


I sympathise with Canadians. Like us, they have a larger country south of
them who continually patronise them...

Jethro_uk

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May 28, 2012, 8:59:08 AM5/28/12
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On Mon, 28 May 2012 11:50:42 +0100, GordonD wrote:

> "Felicity S." <Fl...@rdsqurrl.com> wrote in message
> news:fIxm7.2485$lk6.8...@rdsqurrl.com...
>> Robert Neville wrote:
>>
>>> G Daeb wrote:
>>
>>>> No, I think you're just getting a bit distracted by his being an
>>>> American.
>>
>>> Shatner is Canadian...
>>
>> Canadians *are* American, they just don't like to admit it.
>
>
> I sympathise with Canadians. Like us, they have a larger country south
> of them who continually patronise them...

I like Robin Williams definition of Canadian: "It must be like living in
the loft above a really great party."
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GordonD

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"Froot Bat" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 28 May 2012 11:50:42 +0100, "GordonD" <g.d...@btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"Felicity S." <Fl...@rdsqurrl.com> wrote in message
>>news:fIxm7.2485$lk6.8...@rdsqurrl.com...
>>> Robert Neville wrote:
>>>
>>>> G Daeb wrote:
>>>
>>>>> No, I think you're just getting a bit distracted by his
>>>>> being an American.
>>>
>>>> Shatner is Canadian...
>>>
>>> Canadians *are* American, they just don't like to admit it.
>>
>>I sympathise with Canadians. Like us, they have a larger country south of
>>them who continually patronise them...
>
> Only Russia is larger than Canada. Silly North Britisher.


Larger by population, not land area.

Felicity S.

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May 28, 2012, 4:57:15 PM5/28/12
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Max Demian wrote:

> Robert Neville wrote:
>> Felicity S. wrote:

>>> Canadians *are* American, they just don't like to admit it.

>> Ah... That would be similar to Kiwis are like Aussies, they just
>> don't like to admit it then?

A bit, but New Zealand isn't actually *in* Australia.


> And Irish are British...

That's right, Ireland is the 2nd largest island of the archipelago.


Fliss

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She said: No, very few cartoons are broadcast live. It's
a terrible strain on the animator's wrist.

Felicity S.

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GordonD wrote:

> Felicity S. wrote:

>> Robert Neville wrote:

>>> G Daeb wrote:

>>>> No, I think you're just getting a bit distracted by his
>>>> being an American.

>>> Shatner is Canadian...

>> Canadians *are* American, they just don't like to admit it.

> I sympathise with Canadians. Like us, they have a larger country
> south of them who continually patronise them...

Possibly so, but that more populous country is not America...


Fliss

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She said: Yes, a tear in the space-time continuum
so he can go back and say 'I love you'.

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GordonD

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"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 28 May 2012 22:57:15 BST, "Felicity S." <Fl...@rdsqurrl.com>
> wrote:
>
>>Max Demian wrote:
>>
>>> Robert Neville wrote:
>>>> Felicity S. wrote:
>>
>>>>> Canadians *are* American, they just don't like to admit it.
>>
>>>> Ah... That would be similar to Kiwis are like Aussies, they just
>>>> don't like to admit it then?
>>
>>A bit, but New Zealand isn't actually *in* Australia.
>>
>>
>>> And Irish are British...
>>
>>That's right, Ireland is the 2nd largest island of the archipelago.
>
> That doesn't make Ireland British.


It's part of the British Isles.

Basil Jet

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On 2012\05\28 11:50, GordonD wrote:
> "Felicity S." <Fl...@rdsqurrl.com> wrote in message
> news:fIxm7.2485$lk6.8...@rdsqurrl.com...
>> Robert Neville wrote:
>>
>>> G Daeb wrote:
>>
>>>> No, I think you're just getting a bit distracted by his
>>>> being an American.
>>
>>> Shatner is Canadian...
>>
>> Canadians *are* American, they just don't like to admit it.
>
>
> I sympathise with Canadians. Like us, they have a larger country south
> of them who continually patronise them...

TBH, in Scotland you have 118 larger countries south of you who
continually patronise you.
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GordonD

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"Basil Jet" <jo...@journeyflow.spamspam.com> wrote in message
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But only one of them has a government we didn't elect which shits all over
us.

GordonD

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"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 28 May 2012 23:50:14 +0100, "GordonD" <g.d...@btinternet.com>
> wrote:
>
>>"Martin" <m...@address.invalid> wrote in message
>>news:p9u7s71ml2efkrv6n...@4ax.com...
>>> On Mon, 28 May 2012 22:57:15 BST, "Felicity S." <Fl...@rdsqurrl.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Max Demian wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Robert Neville wrote:
>>>>>> Felicity S. wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>>> Canadians *are* American, they just don't like to admit it.
>>>>
>>>>>> Ah... That would be similar to Kiwis are like Aussies, they just
>>>>>> don't like to admit it then?
>>>>
>>>>A bit, but New Zealand isn't actually *in* Australia.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> And Irish are British...
>>>>
>>>>That's right, Ireland is the 2nd largest island of the archipelago.
>>>
>>> That doesn't make Ireland British.
>>
>>
>>It's part of the British Isles.
>
> We all know that. Geographical descriptions aren't the same as
> political definitions.


I know that. But somebody should tell Bill Bryson. In one of his books he
says that one of the reasons Northern Ireland feels left out of things is
that they're not seen as part of Great Britain - as in 'the United Kingdom
of Great Britain and Northern Ireland'. He says that GB should include
them...

Presumably his next project will be to get Hawaii counted as one of the
contiguous United States...

Max Demian

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"Froot Bat" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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> On Mon, 28 May 2012 11:50:42 +0100, "GordonD" <g.d...@btinternet.com>
> wrote:

>>I sympathise with Canadians. Like us, they have a larger country south of
>>them who continually patronise them...
>
> Only Russia is larger than Canada. Silly North Britisher.

Blame Mercator and his Projection. (Fnarr! Fnarr!)

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Max Demian

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May 29, 2012, 4:58:24 AM5/29/12
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"Felicity S." <Fl...@rdsqurrl.com> wrote in message
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> GordonD wrote:
>
>> Felicity S. wrote:
>
>>> Robert Neville wrote:
>
>>>> G Daeb wrote:
>
>>>>> No, I think you're just getting a bit distracted by his
>>>>> being an American.
>
>>>> Shatner is Canadian...
>
>>> Canadians *are* American, they just don't like to admit it.
>
>> I sympathise with Canadians. Like us, they have a larger country-
>> south of them who continually patronise them...
>
> Possibly so, but that more populous country is not America...

Like us, 'Americans' live in a country without a name...

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Basil Jet

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On 2012\05\29 09:50, GordonD wrote:
> "Basil Jet" <jo...@journeyflow.spamspam.com> wrote in message
> news:4fc45bdc$0$12263$5b6a...@news.zen.co.uk...
>> On 2012\05\28 11:50, GordonD wrote:
>>> "Felicity S." <Fl...@rdsqurrl.com> wrote in message
>>> news:fIxm7.2485$lk6.8...@rdsqurrl.com...
>>>> Robert Neville wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> G Daeb wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> No, I think you're just getting a bit distracted by his
>>>>>> being an American.
>>>>
>>>>> Shatner is Canadian...
>>>>
>>>> Canadians *are* American, they just don't like to admit it.
>>>
>>>
>>> I sympathise with Canadians. Like us, they have a larger country south
>>> of them who continually patronise them...
>>
>> TBH, in Scotland you have 118 larger countries south of you who
>> continually patronise you.
>
>
> But only one of them has a government we didn't elect which shits all
> over us.

Libya?
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Thumper

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"Felicity S." <Fl...@rdsqurrl.com> wrote in message
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> Max Demian wrote:
>
>> Robert Neville wrote:
>>> Felicity S. wrote:
>
>>>> Canadians *are* American, they just don't like to admit it.
>
>>> Ah... That would be similar to Kiwis are like Aussies, they just
>>> don't like to admit it then?
>
> A bit, but New Zealand isn't actually *in* Australia.
>
>
>> And Irish are British...
>
> That's right, Ireland is the 2nd largest island of the archipelago.
>
Ireland is part of the British Isles, but not part of Great Britain nor part
of United Kingdom. Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom but not
part of Great Britain. This is purely geographical because there will
doubtless be Northern Irish sportspeople competing for TeamGB in the
Olympics.

Canadians are North Americans but not part of the United States.

GordonD

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"Max Demian" <max_d...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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Yes, I've seen that 'West Wing' episode with Dr. Phlox.

GordonD

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"Thumper" <thum...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
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And Stanley Gibbons produce stamp albums and catalogues labelled 'Great
Britain' which include Northern Ireland.

Halmyre

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On May 29, 12:57 pm, "GordonD" <g.da...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> "Thumper" <thumpe...@ntlworld.com> wrote in message
>
> news:L12xr.386270$Zp1.1...@fx31.am4...
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > "Felicity S." <Fl...@rdsqurrl.com> wrote in message
> >news:fIxm7.2485$lk6.8...@rdsqurrl.com...
> >> Max Demian wrote:
>
> >>> Robert Neville wrote:
> >>>> Felicity S. wrote:
>
> >>>>> Canadians *are* American, they just don't like to admit it.
>
> >>>> Ah... That would be similar to Kiwis are like Aussies, they just
> >>>> don't like to admit it then?
>
> >> A bit, but New Zealand isn't actually *in* Australia.
>
> >>> And Irish are British...
>
> >> That's right, Ireland is the 2nd largest island of the archipelago.
>
> > Ireland is part of the British Isles, but not part of Great Britain nor
> > part of United Kingdom. Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom but
> > not part of Great Britain. This is purely geographical because there will
> > doubtless be Northern Irish sportspeople competing for TeamGB in the
> > Olympics.
>
> And Stanley Gibbons produce stamp albums and catalogues labelled 'Great
> Britain' which include Northern Ireland.

He's just being funky.

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GordonD

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That took me a second or two!
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Max Demian

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> "Max Demian" <max_d...@bigfoot.com> wrote in message
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>> "Froot Bat" <m...@privacy.net> wrote in message
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>>> On Mon, 28 May 2012 11:50:42 +0100, "GordonD" <g.d...@btinternet.com>
>>> wrote:
>>
>>>>I sympathise with Canadians. Like us, they have a larger country south
>>>>of
>>>>them who continually patronise them...
>>>
>>> Only Russia is larger than Canada. Silly North Britisher.
>>
>> Blame Mercator and his Projection. (Fnarr! Fnarr!)

> Yes, I've seen that 'West Wing' episode with Dr. Phlox.

I haven't.

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GordonD

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May 30, 2012, 4:57:17 AM5/30/12
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It was a special day when groups could present cases to the White House
staff in the hope of getting them taken on as official policy. The actor who
played Phlox in 'Enterprise' was the leader of a group who wanted the
Mercator map replaced in schools by the Gall-Peters one.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Somebody%27s_Going_to_Emergency,_Somebody%27s_Going_to_Jail

Brian Watson

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May 30, 2012, 5:43:09 AM5/30/12
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> Max Demian wrote:
>
>> Robert Neville wrote:
>>> Felicity S. wrote:
>
>>>> Canadians *are* American, they just don't like to admit it.
>
>>> Ah... That would be similar to Kiwis are like Aussies, they just
>>> don't like to admit it then?
>
> A bit, but New Zealand isn't actually *in* Australia.

And Canada isn't in the USA, it's in North America.

Quite a different thing.

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Felicity S.

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May 30, 2012, 6:30:08 PM5/30/12
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Brian Watson wrote:

> Felicity S. wrote:
>> Max Demian wrote:
>>> Robert Neville wrote:
>>>> Felicity S. wrote:

>>>>> Canadians *are* American, they just don't like to admit it.

>>>> Ah... That would be similar to Kiwis are like Aussies, they just
>>>> don't like to admit it then?

>> A bit, but New Zealand isn't actually *in* Australia.

> And Canada isn't in the USA, it's in North America.

> Quite a different thing.

That's right, and North America is the the northern part of?


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May 30, 2012, 6:31:12 PM5/30/12
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Martin wrote:

> GordonD wrote:
>> Martin wrote:
>>> Felicity S. wrote:
>>>> Max Demian wrote:
>>>>> Robert Neville wrote:
>>>>>> Felicity S. wrote:

>>>>>>> Canadians *are* American, they just don't like to admit it.

>>>>>> Ah... That would be similar to Kiwis are like Aussies, they just
>>>>>> don't like to admit it then?

>>>> A bit, but New Zealand isn't actually *in* Australia.

>>>>> And Irish are British...

>>>> That's right, Ireland is the 2nd largest island of the archipelago.

>>> That doesn't make Ireland British.

>> It's part of the British Isles.

> We all know that. Geographical descriptions aren't the same as
> political definitions.

That's why people don't like to admit to their geographical location.


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Felicity S.

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May 30, 2012, 6:33:17 PM5/30/12
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Max Demian wrote:

> Felicity S. wrote:
>> GordonD wrote:
>>> Felicity S. wrote:
>>>> Robert Neville wrote:
>>>>> G Daeb wrote:

>>>>>> No, I think you're just getting a bit distracted by his
>>>>>> being an American.

>>>>> Shatner is Canadian...

>>>> Canadians *are* American, they just don't like to admit it.

>>> I sympathise with Canadians. Like us, they have a larger country-
>>> south of them who continually patronise them...

>> Possibly so, but that more populous country is not America...

> Like us, 'Americans' live in a country without a name...

It's a shame really, since if there were 'United States' in some of the
other continents, the name would be seen for the generic term that it
is. And then to make matters worse, the ignorant have abbreviated their
country's name using the wrong part - a similar stupidity to people who
now think that you can bathe, urinate or defecate in an 'en suite'.


Fliss

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Felicity S.

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May 30, 2012, 6:34:39 PM5/30/12
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Thumper wrote:

> Felicity S. wrote:
>> Max Demian wrote:
>>> Robert Neville wrote:
>>>> Felicity S. wrote:

>>>>> Canadians *are* American, they just don't like to admit it.

>>>> Ah... That would be similar to Kiwis are like Aussies, they just
>>>> don't like to admit it then?

>> A bit, but New Zealand isn't actually *in* Australia.

>>> And Irish are British...

>> That's right, Ireland is the 2nd largest island of the archipelago.

> Ireland is part of the British Isles, but not part of Great Britain nor
> part of United Kingdom. Northern Ireland is part of the United Kingdom
> but not part of Great Britain. This is purely geographical because there
> will doubtless be Northern Irish sportspeople competing for TeamGB in
> the Olympics.

Quite so, but this means that TeamGB is an inaccurate name. Hey ho.


> Canadians are North Americans but not part of the United States.

As indeed are Mexicans. :)


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May 30, 2012, 6:35:54 PM5/30/12
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Martin wrote:

> Halmyre wrote:

>> GordonD wrote:

>>> Stanley Gibbons produce stamp albums and catalogues labelled 'Great
>>> Britain' which include Northern Ireland.

Tut tut.


>> He's just being funky.

> Putting his stamp on things.

With an Ecky thump?


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May 30, 2012, 6:37:03 PM5/30/12
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Max Demian wrote:

> 'Americans' live in a country without a name...

Just been reading that Mitt Romney thinks the name is "Amercia". :-)


Fliss

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Brian Watson

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"Felicity S." <Fl...@rdsqurrl.com> wrote in message
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> Brian Watson wrote:
>
>> Felicity S. wrote:
>>> Max Demian wrote:
>>>> Robert Neville wrote:
>>>>> Felicity S. wrote:
>
>>>>>> Canadians *are* American, they just don't like to admit it.
>
>>>>> Ah... That would be similar to Kiwis are like Aussies, they just
>>>>> don't like to admit it then?
>
>>> A bit, but New Zealand isn't actually *in* Australia.
>
>> And Canada isn't in the USA, it's in North America.
>
>> Quite a different thing.
>
> That's right, and North America is the the northern part of?

A land mass that comprises North America, Central America, and South
America.

Next question?

hognoxious

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> But only one of them has a government we didn't elect which shits all over
> us.

Belgium?


hognoxious

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> On 2012\05\27 15:10, Robert Neville wrote:
>> G Daeb<sipst...@my-deja.com> wrote:
>>
>>> No, I think you're just getting a bit distracted by his
>>> being an American.
>>
>> Shatner is Canadian...
>
> Did he fake an Iowa accent in Star Trek?

He just refrained from saying "eh" at the end of every sentence.
That's close enough for most people.


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Max Demian

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"Felicity S." <Fl...@rdsqurrl.com> wrote in message
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> Max Demian wrote:

>> Like us, 'Americans' live in a country without a name...
>
> It's a shame really, since if there were 'United States' in some of the
> other continents, the name would be seen for the generic term that it
> is.

"United States of America" could equally refer to Brazil.

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Felicity S.

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Max Demian wrote:

> Felicity S. wrote:

>> Max Demian wrote:

>>> Like us, 'Americans' live in a country without a name...

>> It's a shame really, since if there were 'United States' in some of the
>> other continents, the name would be seen for the generic term that it
>> is.

> "United States of America" could equally refer to Brazil.

Indeed so; Australia is also a 'United States' - and before anybody says
that they're not all actually states, that also applies to the USA.

But anyway my point was that no other continent has used the name.


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Tennant Stuart

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Two years ago, Max Demian wrote:

> Like us, 'Americans' live in a country without a name...

Since your posting, I've come across this factoid:

In the same way that the "United Kingdom of Great Britain" is a
politico-geographical designation, not the name of its component
countries; so is the "United States of America" - for the actual
name of the country (referred to in the term Washington DC) is

*** COLUMBIA ***


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Calum

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On 03/06/2014 18:02, Tennant Stuart wrote:
> In the same way that the "United Kingdom of Great Britain" is a
> politico-geographical designation, not the name of its component
> countries; so is the "United States of America" - for the actual
> name of the country (referred to in the term Washington DC) is
>
> *** COLUMBIA ***

FWIW, Wikipedia's explanation is that Columbia is to the USA as
Britannia is to Britain, namely "a historical and poetic name used for
the United States of America and is also the name of its female
personification".

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Columbia_(name)

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Stephen Wolstenholme

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That looks like a joke cartoon. Did anyone actually use the name apart
from in "The Gentlemans Magzine"?

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In article <lmn2fr$p7s$1...@speranza.aioe.org>, Calum
<com....@nospam.scottishwildcat> wrote:

> On 03/06/2014 18:02, Tennant Stuart wrote:

>> In the same way that the "United Kingdom of Great Britain" is a
>> politico-geographical designation, not the name of its component
>> countries; so is the "United States of America" - for the actual
>> name of the country Columbia.

> FWIW, Wikipedia's explanation is that Columbia is to the USA as
> Britannia is to Britain, namely "a historical and poetic name used
> for the United States of America and is also the name of its female
> personification".

Except the capital isn't London, District of Britannia. :p


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