O/T Laptops
Ed
Its got a big discount at comet and i have vouchers tospend there
cheers
ed
http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/product/582018/COMPAQ-CQ61-317SA
Light of Aria
"Ed" <edward....@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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Comet sell under speced crap. My advice is spend more for a PC that you will
enjoy for a few years more.
Ebay yourself a Dell XPS M1730 (possibly from EComputers).
Why have the equivalent to a leaking punt when you can have a dual engined
power boat?
Try:
MusicRab
Slow Celeron processor. This might be better
http://www.hotukdeals.com/item/538748/dell-inspiron-1545-15-6-laptop-2-1g
Ed
<lightofa...@2009.no.valid.domain.com> wrote:
> "Ed" <edward.a.bow...@googlemail.com> wrote in message
>
> news:c686a7b9-63dd-44a3...@p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com...
>
> > Is this one OK?
> > Its got a big discount at comet and i have vouchers tospend there
>
> > cheers
> > ed
> >http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/product/582018/COMPAQ-CQ61-317SA
>
> Comet sell under speced crap. My advice is spend more for a PC that you will
> enjoy for a few years more.
>
> Ebay yourself a Dell XPS M1730 (possibly from EComputers).
>
> Why have the equivalent to a leaking punt when you can have a dual engined
> power boat?
>
> Try:
>
I have £200 in vouchers to spend and comet are the only computer shop
where I can use them
AC
"Ed" <edward....@googlemail.com> wrote in message
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Anal wankyness aside, its a pretty much as good as any other similar priced
lappy that you can get at many other outlets. Some have a web cam or not,
some have more or less graphics memory, etc. Just check it has all the
hardware you want. Unless of course you see some higher spec one off ish
super deal.
Look, if all you want is a lappy that'll do the usual web and office stuff,
it will be perfectly fine. If you want to run GTA IV at full pelt then stop
taking the piss !!!! :)
Oh, and what ever you do or buy, a well later you will see a better deal
else where.
AC
Edward Cowling London UK
<c686a7b9-63dd-44a3...@p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, Ed
<edward....@googlemail.com> writes
1.8 GHZ, run, run you fool before they sell it to you :-)
--
Edward Cowling North London UK http://www.facebook.com/ed.cowling
Edward Cowling London UK
<5c1f080c-8ac8-4b9c...@j19g2000yqk.googlegroups.com>, Ed
<edward....@googlemail.com> writes
>>
>> Why have the equivalent to a leaking punt when you can have a dual engined
>> power boat?
>>
>> Try:
>>
>> http://stores.shop.ebay.co.uk/eComputers-LTD_Studio-XPS-Laptops_W0QQL...
>
>I have �200 in vouchers to spend and comet are the only computer shop
>where I can use them
Don't buy a machine with spec that is already out of date. You'll only
get fed up when it can't run half the stuff you put on it.
Ed
<TV_...@genghis0.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> In message
> <c686a7b9-63dd-44a3-893f-39a73f705...@p35g2000yqh.googlegroups.com>, Ed
> <edward.a.bow...@googlemail.com> writes
>
> >Is this one OK?
> >Its got a big discount at comet and i have vouchers tospend there
>
> >cheers
> >ed
> >http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/product/582018/COMPAQ-CQ61-317SA
>
> 1.8 GHZ, run, run you fool before they sell it to you :-)
Like 95% of the UK computer buying public, that means absolutely
nothing to me
Light of Aria
That's the intended audience of a large chain "shop".
Light of Aria
"Edward Cowling London UK" <TV_...@genghis0.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:7LOdUaA6...@genghis0.demon.co.uk...
Exactly. My current M1730 has Dual Core 2.2 GHZ processors plus 4 GB
physical 1066 MHZ RAM, 1GB video memory, and twin 7200 RPM hard drives.
And that was on a middle of the range spec, with 3 year on-site warranty, 18
months ago.
As soon as you load a web page with some Adobe Flash shit on it, parse an
XML file, or try a Skype Video call, and open a Word document, you'll
know...
Basil Jet
He's saying that the answer to your "Is this one OK?" question is NO. It's
slow by today's standards and will be unsuitable for modern software which
makes little attempt to be efficient. I'm thinking of replacing my ancient
PC because it's painfully slow at 2 GHz, and yours is 11% slower.
--
We are the Strasbourg. Referendum is futile.
Calum
> Like 95% of the UK computer buying public, that means absolutely
> nothing to me
If Comet have any interest in selling it to you, they'll let you install
whatever software it is you normally use on their display model, and you
can try it for yourself to see if it's fast enough for you. There's
really no other way to tell, as one person's "fast enough" is another's
"dog slow".
If they're not prepared to let you do that, I wouldn't be interested in
buying it from them anyway.
bartc
Sounds fine to me.
I usually just go for the lowest specs and cheapest price, and the thing
always seems to work.
If everyone always went for the highest specs just because of the hype,
there would be no incentive for software to ever be more efficient.
It would be sad if we all end up needing 16GB ram, 1TB hdd, quad-core 4Ghz
processors just to write a letter, check an email or look at a photo.
(I should add than when I started buying computer bits, the spec of that
machine, even if practicable, would probably have cost some �50million in
today's money. You might have been a bit cross if you'd spend that much then
found out you couldn't run a word processor on it. The bloatedness and
general inefficiency of today's software is really a joke...)
--
Bartc
William
> Is this one OK?
> Its got a big discount at comet and i have vouchers tospend there
For £50 more, this one is *much* better spec (but skip the Norton
offer, and install AVG instead).
http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/product/594989/
--
WH
Ed
What is flummoxing me is you decide on one you like, eg the L450, then
there are a dozen retailers selling a dozen different versions. Even
comet sell an 11V as well as the 11G. Presumably you get what you pay
for
Fred X
<colin...@x.com.invalid> wrote:
> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:45:20 +0000, Basil Jet wrote
> (in article <6CRPm.17500$Lu6....@newsfe05.ams2>):
>
>> He's saying that the answer to your "Is this one OK?" question is NO.
>> It's
>> slow by today's standards and will be unsuitable for modern software
>> which
>> makes little attempt to be efficient. I'm thinking of replacing my
>> ancient
>> PC because it's painfully slow at 2 GHz, and yours is 11% slower.
>>
>>
>
> What piffle.
>
> My only Microsoft(R) Windows(TM) machine is a 1GB RAM equipped 1.6GHz
> single
> core Atom based netbook, GMA 950 graphics.
>
> I run on it, Musescore and Band-in-a-box, for writing music on the go,
> the
> latest Firefox and IE and Openoffice.org.
>
> What 'modern software' would this be that won't work? This atom netbook
> runs
> all of that lot just fine. And Avast!. All under Windows 7.
>
> You do not need a turbo ninja 3.6GHz quad core i7 with 16GB of RAM and a
> 2GB
> dual graphics card to run 'modern software' (whatever that actually
> means).
>
> I accept that if you want to run Crysis with all the bells and wistles,
> then
> fill your boots with a 2 grand laptop (and probably still not get there)
> but
> the vast vast majority of software will work just fine on much more
> modest
> equipment.
>
True, but if he wants something that won't need replacing in a few years
time then it might be better to buy something that is over specced for
his needs.
Fred X
Ed
> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:31:39 -0000, Colin Harper
>
>
>
> <colinhar...@x.com.invalid> wrote:
> > On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 14:45:20 +0000, Basil Jet wrote
She went out yesterday and bought herself a £489 Vaio
bartc
> On Nov 28, 4:15 pm, "Fred X" <alexs...@himki.net> wrote:
>> On Fri, 27 Nov 2009 19:31:39 -0000, Colin Harper
>>> I accept that if you want to run Crysis with all the bells and
>>> wistles, then
>>> fill your boots with a 2 grand laptop (and probably still not get
>>> there) but
>>> the vast vast majority of software will work just fine on much more
>>> modest
>>> equipment.
>>
>> True, but if he wants something that won't need replacing in a few
>> years time then it might be better to buy something that is over
>> specced for his needs.
Laptops will need replacing anyway. I bought an �1800 Sony in 2004 (TR5MP).
The CD/DVD drive started going funny at 12 months and within another year
didn't work at all. The built-in webcam also failed. The screen developed
bright spots when seen at slightly the wrong angle, and bits of dirt
appeared in it (which I managed to shake out.). Keys kept having problems...
After 5 years (and this was a machine only used while travelling) it
developed hardware faults that stopped it booting properly.
Best to get something cheap that can be replaced every year or so and that
you don't have to worry about.
At the minute I have a �200 netbook, which has a rubbish display (compared
to the Sony), but will do when I'm out and about. Size and weight is more
important for me. At home I use a desktop (actually, another �200
machine...).
--
Bartc
Halmyre
6e5d65...@j4g2000yqe.googlegroups.com>, edward....@googlemail.com
says...
A WOMAN? Buying a PC on her own? What is the world coming to?
--
Halmyre
This is the most powerful sigfile in the world and will probably blow your
head clean off.
DVDfever
It doesn't state whether it's dual core or not.
DVDfever
> >http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/product/582018/COMPAQ-CQ61-317SA
>
Nice one, ta. I recommended a slightly lesser spec to a mate for
around the same price, but have now given them this link as it's got
3Gb compared to 1Gb, and Win7 installed rather than Vista (although
with a Win7 free upgrade).
However, I wouldn't want any trace of Vista on any future machine I
buy. It's like having cancer, and a Win7 upgrade sounds like getting
the 'all clear' - everything looks fine for a while, but you just know
the fucker's going to get up and kick you at some point again in the
future.
DVDfever
Oh dear. It's like buying Nike trainers - you spend a fair bit of the
price on the name alone, for no realistic return.
Edward Cowling London UK
<f33103aa-6a31-4a36...@g27g2000yqn.googlegroups.com>,
DVDfever <pick...@googlemail.com> writes
Can I put a plug in for Dell ? Have a look at their site. I have a
brand new Dell and an old Dimension 4500 that I bought in 2002 and it's
still perfect. No drive problems, no bits breaking down or dropping off
Light of Aria
"Edward Cowling London UK" <TV_...@genghis0.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
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I buy brand new Dell's - via eBay sellers - EComputers Ltd specifically.
I get high spec PCs with 3 year on-site warranty at about 25% less than the
Dell price, couriered to me for the next day inclusive of the price, not
extra.
I also bought a server from Dell factory direct last year. I got a 4GB
RDRAM2 Quad Core processor server with RAID disks and workstation graphics
card for �800.
William
With Toshiba, the first half of the number is the "series" so L450 (or
L450D for the AMD variant), whilst the second half (11V / 11!G etc) is
the particular model. All L450 models will look the same; they all
have same case, screen, keyboard etc - but the different models will
have different processors, memory, hard-disk size, and perhaps
graphics.
The full L450 range can be viewed at:
http://uk.computers.toshiba-europe.com/innovation/series/Satellite-L450-series/TIU_THIN_SMALL_LIGHT/
The 11G is a lower specification than the 11V (slower processor, less
memory, smaller hard-disk) hence it's it's £50 cheaper, but I think
it's worth paying the extra £50 to get a much better machine..
Ultimately, you "pays yer money, and maks yer choice".
--
WH
William
It is an AMD Athlon X2 QL65 - which is AMD's "dual-core".
--
WH
Edward Cowling London UK
<light...@2009.no.valid.domain.com> writes
>
>>
>
>
>I buy brand new Dell's - via eBay sellers - EComputers Ltd specifically.
>
>I get high spec PCs with 3 year on-site warranty at about 25% less than
>the Dell price, couriered to me for the next day inclusive of the
>price, not extra.
>
>I also bought a server from Dell factory direct last year. I got a 4GB
>RDRAM2 Quad Core processor server with RAID disks and workstation
>graphics card for �800.
>
>
several clones, but they've all had application that made them hang, or
disc drives that packed up after a year, etc. My Dell's have never given
me any worries and come on every day without hiccups. Even the fans
don't turn into noise pollution after 6 months :-)
Light of Aria
Dell are variable.
My first Dell Precision Workstation lasted for ever.
I've got a Dell Inspiron 5000E from year 2001 that is still in daily service
running Internet Explorer and Outlook sufficiently not to replace it yet.
My current XPS M1730 is doing nicely at 1 and 3/4 years old, fingers
crossed.
For me I need the contunity of service. To move PCs - all my software,
patches, websites, passwords, and SQL databases - wastes a day of chargeable
time.
My tip: Run I8kfanGui. It lets you see and monitor the PC's internals of
which the fans and cooling system are the most critical safety component.
DVDfever
Ta. You'd think they'd spell this out.
DVDfever
<lightofa...@2009.no.valid.domain.com> wrote:
> "Edward Cowling London UK" <TV_...@genghis0.demon.co.uk> wrote in messagenews:JdBpCRsS...@genghis0.demon.co.uk...
>
>
>
> > In message
> > DVDfever <pickp...@googlemail.com> writes
> >>On 27 Nov, 23:52, William <will...@lowerknowle.com> wrote:
> >>> On 27 Nov, 07:58, Ed <edward.a.bow...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> >>> > Is this one OK?
> >>> > Its got a big discount at comet and i have vouchers tospend there
> >>> >http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/product/582018/COMPAQ-CQ61-317SA
>
> >>> For £50 more, this one is *much* better spec (but skip the Norton
> >>> offer, and install AVG instead).
>
> >>>http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/product/594989/
>
> >>It doesn't state whether it's dual core or not.
>
> > Can I put a plug in for Dell ? Have a look at their site. I have a brand
> > new Dell and an old Dimension 4500 that I bought in 2002 and it's still
> > perfect. No drive problems, no bits breaking down or dropping off :-)
>
> > --
> > Edward Cowling North London UK http://www.facebook.com/ed.cowling
>
> I buy brand new Dell's - via eBay sellers - EComputers Ltd specifically.
>
> I get high spec PCs with 3 year on-site warranty at about 25% less than the
> Dell price, couriered to me for the next day inclusive of the price, not
> extra.
>
> I also bought a server from Dell factory direct last year. I got a 4GB
> RDRAM2 Quad Core processor server with RAID disks and workstation graphics
> card for £800.
I could do with a PC with Quad Core, decent enough for games with 4Gb,
and also 2*1Gb RAID hard drives. Any recommendations?
Ed
And its pink!
Brian Watson
>> Can I put a plug in for Dell ? Have a look at their site. I have a
>> brand new Dell and an old Dimension 4500 that I bought in 2002 and
>> it's still perfect. No drive problems, no bits breaking down or
>> dropping off :-)
>
> We have two Dell Dimension 4500s bought in 2002 which have never had
> a problem too.
Because I want to watch video and have really good "games"-type
possibilities, I want to be able to make comparisons between the graphics
handling on a laptop and my home computer but there seem to be a completely
different range of onboard graphics support.
Hardly any Nvidia or Radeon cards are mentioned as being built into laptops,
for example.
Is there any simple way to compare what comes built in with what I have
already?
--
Brian
"Fight like the Devil, die like a gentleman."
www.imagebus.co.uk/shop
DVDfever
Oh christ.
BTW, what do others reckon to this laptop? My mate ended up buying it
before she got my better recommendation but this is only 1.8Ghz and it
says both "Celeron" and "Dual core" so I thought they were separate
things?
http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/HP_Compaq_Presario_CQ71-312SA_Laptop_VT262EA/version.asp
Fred X
wrote:
>> > > She went out yesterday and bought herself a ￜ489 Vaio
>>
>> > Oh dear. It's like buying Nike trainers - you spend a fair bit of the
>> > price on the name alone, for no realistic return.
>>
>> And its pink!
>
> Oh christ.
>
> BTW, what do others reckon to this laptop? My mate ended up buying it
> before she got my better recommendation but this is only 1.8Ghz and it
> says both "Celeron" and "Dual core" so I thought they were separate
> things?
>
> http://www.laptopsdirect.co.uk/HP_Compaq_Presario_CQ71-312SA_Laptop_VT262EA/version.asp
No, there are different flavours of Dual Cores, but the Celeron ones
are at the bottom of the pile unfortunately.
This site will tell you how good a processor is....
Fred X