Art of Fishing
Mark
Has anyone else wondered why the publishers of "Art of Fishing" magazine
seem to have the same sort of advertising budget as a large
multinational?! I have seen three peak time ads for it tonight. Must be
costing them a fortune. Seems a little OTT to me.
Mark
Gar
Mark wrote in message ...
The publishing company (Marshall Cavendish?) seem to spend their entire
advertising budget at the start of the year to cash in on people's new years
resolutions.
And why is it not available in Tyne Tees?
Gar
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Yet they still advertise it on that network..
Bob Cousins
>Has anyone else wondered why the publishers of "Art of Fishing" magazine
>seem to have the same sort of advertising budget as a large
>multinational?! I have seen three peak time ads for it tonight. Must be
>costing them a fortune. Seems a little OTT to me.
They always have a big push this time of year to catch the New Year resolutions
market, like the stop smoking ads.
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Kevin Hall
heavily promoted last year and that it won't even be finished yet. From
what I can remember this magazine has been pushed at least three times in
this area. Angler friends of mine inform me that it is low quality crap
and that an endorsement by John Wilson is meant to give it credibility.
Though not as bad as "Combat and Survival" that some of us might remember
being touted in the 80's...
Kevin.
In article <77of03$rev$1...@fire.medianet.ie>, g...@clubi.ie says...
>
> Mark wrote in message ...
> >
> >Has anyone else wondered why the publishers of "Art of Fishing" magazine
> >seem to have the same sort of advertising budget as a large
> >multinational?! I have seen three peak time ads for it tonight. Must be
> >costing them a fortune. Seems a little OTT to me.
>
Rob Hill
>
>Has anyone else wondered why the publishers of "Art of Fishing" magazine
>seem to have the same sort of advertising budget as a large
>multinational?! I have seen three peak time ads for it tonight. Must be
>costing them a fortune. Seems a little OTT to me.
>
>
There is also the Gary Rhodes magazine the Art of Cooking and the
brilliant (!) PC Know How. What I was wondering were do these things
actually sell because I cannot remember seeing anyone ever bnuying
them personally.
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>>Has anyone else wondered why the publishers of "Art of Fishing" magazine
>>seem to have the same sort of advertising budget as a large
>>multinational?! I have seen three peak time ads for it tonight. Must be
>>costing them a fortune. Seems a little OTT to me.
>
>market, like the stop smoking ads.
Sorry, what new year's resolution would this be?
"This year, I must lose weight, lay off the JD, and learn more about
freshwater fishing, both coarse and fly."
You must've gone to one hell of a modern drugs party. What are you doing
next Jan 1? Can I come too?
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Rob Hill
uk.media.tv.misc :
>I think this would be because in my area (Tyne Tees) this magazine was
>heavily promoted last year and that it won't even be finished yet. From
>what I can remember this magazine has been pushed at least three times in
>this area. Angler friends of mine inform me that it is low quality crap
>and that an endorsement by John Wilson is meant to give it credibility.
>
Have you seen the advert for that American fishing toy advertised on
Satellite TV. It appears to be something like a gameboy, it looks
totally unconvincing.
Gareth Thomas
<r...@bluenoze.demon.co.uk> writes
>Have you seen the advert for that American fishing toy advertised on
>Satellite TV. It appears to be something like a gameboy, it looks
>totally unconvincing.
At first I thought that was a piss-take, a sort of post-modern 'joke'
advert, and we'd find out what it was really promoting in later
installments. Clearly not, they really are trying to sell a weighted
bit of plastic with a spindle attachment.
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Neil Hopkins
>aa...@dial.pipex.com (Mark) wrote as thus on uk.media.tv.misc :
>
>>
>>Has anyone else wondered why the publishers of "Art of Fishing" magazine
>>seem to have the same sort of advertising budget as a large
>>multinational?! I have seen three peak time ads for it tonight. Must be
>>costing them a fortune. Seems a little OTT to me.
>>
>>
>
>brilliant (!) PC Know How. What I was wondering were do these things
>actually sell because I cannot remember seeing anyone ever bnuying
>them personally.
>
A friend of mine started getting one of the Encyclopaedia ones until he
worked out it would cost him something like 150 quid to get the equivalent
of a decent 20 quid book. I've also seen quite a few partial collections on
sale in charity shops, where people have got fed up, or died before
completing the collection.
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Bob Cousins
>Bob Cousins <b...@lintilla.demon.co.uk> writes
>>>Has anyone else wondered why the publishers of "Art of Fishing" magazine
>>>seem to have the same sort of advertising budget as a large
>>>multinational?! I have seen three peak time ads for it tonight. Must be
>>>costing them a fortune. Seems a little OTT to me.
>>
>>They always have a big push this time of year to catch the New Year resolutions
>>market, like the stop smoking ads.
>
>Sorry, what new year's resolution would this be?
I thought I was joking, but someone else pointed to New Year resolutions too, so
maybe I'm not. I guess there is a general willingness to take up new things. I
always resolve to learn to fly in the upcoming year (aeroplanes, not fish), so
maybe if there was a "Art of Flying in 100 easy stages" maybe I would buy it.
Dom
aa...@dial.pipex.com (Mark) writes:
>
>Has anyone else wondered why the publishers of "Art of Fishing" magazine
>seem to have the same sort of advertising budget as a large
>multinational?! I have seen three peak time ads for it tonight. Must be
>costing them a fortune. Seems a little OTT to me.
Whoever the bloke in the ad is, why does he sound like he's having an orgasm
when he says at the end, "What a beauty!"
Just listen to the quiver in his voice.
Dom
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Kevin Lee
wrote:
>There is also the Gary Rhodes magazine the Art of Cooking and the
>brilliant (!) PC Know How. What I was wondering were do these things
>actually sell because I cannot remember seeing anyone ever bnuying
>them personally.
There are several of these new titles around - some of which are
reprints. While I was in our local WH Smith's the other week I noticed
the new Art Course (or whatever it is) with "free" artists box seems
to be popular with senior citizens as several of them were queueing up
to buy them and two people were buying the motorbike one.
As someone's pointed out in another message, these part works are
very expensive in the long run. For most of the subjects there are
numerous books on sale which are much better value.
Kevin Lee home page:www.keltia4.co.uk
Kevin Lee
wrote:
>Whoever the bloke in the ad is, why does he sound like he's having an orgasm
>when he says at the end, "What a beauty!"
>
>Just listen to the quiver in his voice.
>
>Dom
You should watch his TV show on cable he even kisses the fish :)
Kevin Hall
one of this informercials late one night, they spent about an hour
talking about the thing! It looked like a piece of cheap plastic junk to
me. It continues to amaze me the crap people will try and sell---just ask
John Wilson ;)
In article <36b59c9e...@news.demon.co.uk>, r...@bluenoze.demon.co.uk
says...
Shaun
>On Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:40:23 GMT, r...@bluenoze.demon.co.uk (Rob Hill)
>wrote:
>
>>There is also the Gary Rhodes magazine the Art of Cooking and the
>>brilliant (!) PC Know How. What I was wondering were do these things
>>actually sell because I cannot remember seeing anyone ever bnuying
>>them personally.
>
>There are several of these new titles around - some of which are
>reprints. While I was in our local WH Smith's the other week I noticed
>the new Art Course (or whatever it is) with "free" artists box seems
>to be popular with senior citizens as several of them were queueing up
>to buy them and two people were buying the motorbike one.
>
All my fishing mates think "The Art of Fishing" is crap but have been
snapping up the "Art Course" magazine just to get a a high quality
wooden fly box for three quid. I personally have bought five just to
rip the plastic out to convert for various uses.In fact I haven't met
anybody who's actually bought one to use as an art box.....
Rob Hill
uk.media.tv.misc :
>In article <36b59c9e...@news.demon.co.uk>, Rob Hill
><r...@bluenoze.demon.co.uk> writes
>>Have you seen the advert for that American fishing toy advertised on
>>Satellite TV. It appears to be something like a gameboy, it looks
>>totally unconvincing.
>
>At first I thought that was a piss-take, a sort of post-modern 'joke'
>advert, and we'd find out what it was really promoting in later
>installments. Clearly not, they really are trying to sell a weighted
>bit of plastic with a spindle attachment.
That is definately what it is, isn't it. I thought I had drunk too
much the first time I saw the advert. Like you I thought it was a
piss-take but it obviously isn't.
Who on EARTH would buy that sort of thing though ?
Julian Regel
>maybe I'm not. I guess there is a general willingness to take up new things. I
>always resolve to learn to fly in the upcoming year (aeroplanes, not fish), so
>maybe if there was a "Art of Flying in 100 easy stages" maybe I would buy it.
You're going to need a mighty big rod to catch an aeroplane...
Julian
Nick Cooper
<ne...@hopkins2000.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
>A friend of mine started getting one of the Encyclopaedia ones until he
>worked out it would cost him something like 150 quid to get the equivalent
>of a decent 20 quid book. I've also seen quite a few partial collections on
>sale in charity shops, where people have got fed up, or died before
>completing the collection.
I started collecting 'World War II' in the late-70s and it was
supposed to be in ten volumes, but in the end they strung it out with
a couple more, Vol. 11 being devoted to uniform design, and Vol. 11
'The Post-War Conflicts'. Funnily enough, those are the only two I
still have left!
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<r...@bluenoze.demon.co.uk>
>There is also the Gary Rhodes magazine the Art of Cooking and the
>brilliant (!) PC Know How. What I was wondering were do these things
>actually sell because I cannot remember seeing anyone ever bnuying
>them personally.
...and the rest: Superbikes, Aromatherapy, The Perfume Collection, Art
Course, Football Magic - and those are just the *new* ones, launched
this year!
All of these 'part-works' revert to firm sale (as opposed to sale-or-
return) after issue 6 or 7. It is not in the newsagents interests to
stock these titles after this, as any unsold copies have to be written
off and reduce profits. After the initial hype (TV and instore display)
most customers tend to either place a firm order, to be
collected/delivered or subscribe direct from the publisher.
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Nick Cooper <nick....@virgin.net> wrote:
>
>I started collecting 'World War II' in the late-70s and it was
>supposed to be in ten volumes, but in the end they strung it out with
>a couple more, Vol. 11 being devoted to uniform design, and Vol. 11
>'The Post-War Conflicts'. Funnily enough, those are the only two I
>still have left!
I collected 'Input' and 'The Home Computer Course' in the '80s. I'm convinced
my family's address is still on Marshall Cavendish's and Orbis' mailing lists.
--
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Tristan Haxell
Rob Hill <r...@bluenoze.demon.co.uk> wrote:
>
>There is also the Gary Rhodes magazine the Art of Cooking and the
>brilliant (!) PC Know How.
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Nick Cooper
wrote:
>Whilst browsing my newsgroup messages, I found this from Rob Hill
><r...@bluenoze.demon.co.uk>
>
>>There is also the Gary Rhodes magazine the Art of Cooking and the
>>brilliant (!) PC Know How. What I was wondering were do these things
>>actually sell because I cannot remember seeing anyone ever bnuying
>>them personally.
>
>...and the rest: Superbikes, Aromatherapy, The Perfume Collection, Art
>Course, Football Magic - and those are just the *new* ones, launched
>this year!
>
>All of these 'part-works' revert to firm sale (as opposed to sale-or-
>return) after issue 6 or 7. It is not in the newsagents interests to
>stock these titles after this, as any unsold copies have to be written
>off and reduce profits.
They'd be on sale-or-return, surely, so it would be the publishers
who'd lose out, not the newsagents.
> After the initial hype (TV and instore display)
>most customers tend to either place a firm order, to be
>collected/delivered or subscribe direct from the publisher.
Rob Hill
:
>On Sat, 16 Jan 99 16:33:52 GMT, mcc...@festive.demon.co.uk (Dom) wrote:
>
>>In article <MPG.1109c7af2...@news.dial.pipex.com>
>> aa...@dial.pipex.com (Mark) writes:
>>>
>>>Has anyone else wondered why the publishers of "Art of Fishing" magazine
>>>seem to have the same sort of advertising budget as a large
>>>multinational?! I have seen three peak time ads for it tonight. Must be
>>>costing them a fortune. Seems a little OTT to me.
>>
>>Whoever the bloke in the ad is, why does he sound like he's having an orgasm
>>when he says at the end, "What a beauty!"
>>
>>Just listen to the quiver in his voice.
>
>Ah - If you haven't ever seen any of his fishing programs, you've missed
>something special. The total enthusiasm and glee he puts over when landing ANY
>fish is out of this world.
And then ripping half of its face off when trying to get the hook out
of its mouth and then holding the poor thing in the air while it
flails about as it cannot breathe. :(
Jim
Mark wrote in message ...
>
>seem to have the same sort of advertising budget as a large
>multinational?!
... but not spent very much of that budget on actually making the ads, from
the look of them.
Actually, I thought this message was about the art of fisting, but I guess I
got my newsgroups confused.
Chris
<nick....@virgin.net>
>>All of these 'part-works' revert to firm sale (as opposed to sale-or-
>>return) after issue 6 or 7. It is not in the newsagents interests to
>>stock these titles after this, as any unsold copies have to be written
>>off and reduce profits.
>
>They'd be on sale-or-return, surely, so it would be the publishers
>who'd lose out, not the newsagents.
I'm not sure I understand your point.
At the risk of repeating myself...They ARE only S.O.R until part 6,
after that the newsagent has to write off any unsold copies he has
already paid for. Thus losing money.
I suppose the publisher does lose out, albeit in a more abstract way,
ie. missing out on potential sales to retailers.
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Chris
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LOL...ROFL!
Is that an 'art' or more a question of just getting stuck in.....
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>>And then ripping half of its face off when trying to get the hook out
>>of its mouth and then holding the poor thing in the air while it
>>flails about as it cannot breathe. :(
>>
>
>going to be kept and eaten, he puts it back in the water in plenty of time for
>it to recover completely.
How very humane of him.
Seems a bit pointless to me. Why not just leave it in the water in the
first place?
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Nick Cooper
wrote:
>Whilst browsing my newsgroup messages, I found this from Nick Cooper
><nick....@virgin.net>
>>>All of these 'part-works' revert to firm sale (as opposed to sale-or-
>>>return) after issue 6 or 7. It is not in the newsagents interests to
>>>stock these titles after this, as any unsold copies have to be written
>>>off and reduce profits.
>>
>>They'd be on sale-or-return, surely, so it would be the publishers
>>who'd lose out, not the newsagents.
>
>I'm not sure I understand your point.
>At the risk of repeating myself...They ARE only S.O.R until part 6,
>after that the newsagent has to write off any unsold copies he has
>already paid for. Thus losing money.
Sorry - didn't properly read your post, and missed the specific no-SOR
bit. What can I say? Bad day....
Nick Cooper
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>On Sun, 17 Jan 1999 16:54:20 GMT, r...@bluenoze.demon.co.uk (Rob Hill) wrote:
>
>>pam...@netcomuk.co.uk (Pam Hadfield) wrote as thus on uk.media.tv.misc
>>:
>>
>>>Ah - If you haven't ever seen any of his fishing programs, you've missed
>>>something special. The total enthusiasm and glee he puts over when landing ANY
>>>fish is out of this world.
>>
>>And then ripping half of its face off when trying to get the hook out
>>of its mouth and then holding the poor thing in the air while it
>>flails about as it cannot breathe. :(
>
>How unfair! He's very careful when removing the hook and unless the fish is
>going to be kept and eaten, he puts it back in the water in plenty of time for
>it to recover completely.
I'm sure that's a real fucking consolation to the fish.
squidly
:>And then ripping half of its face off when trying to get
the hook out
:>of its mouth and then holding the poor thing in the air
while it
:>flails about as it cannot breathe. :(
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>
>>I think this would be because in my area (Tyne Tees) this magazine was
>>heavily promoted last year and that it won't even be finished yet. From
>>what I can remember this magazine has been pushed at least three times in
>>this area. Angler friends of mine inform me that it is low quality crap
>>and that an endorsement by John Wilson is meant to give it credibility.
>>
>
>Satellite TV. It appears to be something like a gameboy, it looks
>totally unconvincing.
>
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>
>Has anyone else wondered why the publishers of "Art of Fishing" magazine
>seem to have the same sort of advertising budget as a large
>costing them a fortune. Seems a little OTT to me.
What I want to know is why they insist on showing the advert in the Tyne
Tees region (where I live) when they then put up a note saying it isn't
available in that area!
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on Sat, 16 Jan 1999 12:40:23 GMT to serve the great third reich! Or
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>There is also the Gary Rhodes magazine the Art of Cooking and the
>brilliant (!) PC Know How. What I was wondering were do these things
>actually sell because I cannot remember seeing anyone ever bnuying
>them personally.
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Bob Cousins
>Mark <aa...@dial.pipex.com> wrote:
>>
>>Has anyone else wondered why the publishers of "Art of Fishing" magazine
>>seem to have the same sort of advertising budget as a large
>>multinational?! I have seen three peak time ads for it tonight. Must be
>>costing them a fortune. Seems a little OTT to me.
>
>What I want to know is why they insist on showing the advert in the Tyne
>Tees region (where I live) when they then put up a note saying it isn't
>available in that area!
It's a local magazine, its not for people like you.
CASSIDY
Bob Cousins wrote in message <36b73d56...@news.supernews.co.uk>...
>What I want to know is why they insist on showing the advert in the Tyne
>>Tees region (where I live) when they then put up a note saying it isn't
>>available in that area!
>It's a local magazine, its not for people like you.
we'll have no trouble here!
i think it was already decided that this wonderful publication was "tested"
on us horrible tyne tees creatures at an earlier date, to see if any of us
northern fools would take the bait. (pun absolutely intended). so, they're
not selling it again, for that reason.
and as for showing ads.
the magazine might be available in some of the areas that tttv covers, north
yorkshire etc, or perhaps the ad is just on c4, where the advertising
boundaries arent the same as the itv regions. maybe they just have money to
burn and dont like people who live north of harrogate. anything's possible,
these days.
>> Emma
>Bob Cousins, Software Engineer.
gerard.
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> and as for showing ads.
> the magazine might be available in some of the areas that tttv covers, north
> yorkshire etc, or perhaps the ad is just on c4, where the advertising
> boundaries arent the same as the itv regions. maybe they just have money to
> burn and dont like people who live north of harrogate. anything's possible,
> these days.
So Scotland isn't north of Harrogate? Oh well, you learn something every
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Alan Gauton wrote in message <36A5F79E...@usa.net>...
>So Scotland isn't north of Harrogate? Oh well, you learn something every
>day. (-:
erm, no, scotland is, erm, down south, near lowestoft, i think you'll find.
(digging hole even deeper).
gerard.
more geography lessons, same time tomorrow.
Mike Warren
> How very humane of him.
> Seems a bit pointless to me. Why not just leave it in the water in
> the
> first place?
>
> -
Yes..why not just have detector on the end of the line that sends a
signal when a fish grabs it. This would indicate that had the line
actually had a real hook then the fish would have been caught. You can
then assume you would have caught the fish..without actually causing
the fish any distress and without having to go through all that
troublesome business of landing the fish.Mike Warren.
Rob Hill
>Whilst browsing my newsgroup messages, I found this from Pam Hadfield
><had...@netcomuk.co.uk>
>>>And then ripping half of its face off when trying to get the hook out
>>>of its mouth and then holding the poor thing in the air while it
>>>flails about as it cannot breathe. :(
>>>
>>
>>How unfair! He's very careful when removing the hook and unless the fish is
>>going to be kept and eaten, he puts it back in the water in plenty of time for
>>it to recover completely.
>
>How very humane of him.
>Seems a bit pointless to me. Why not just leave it in the water in the
>first place?
Ignoring the fact that a fishes body is covered with a protective
layer and handling it may rub this off, and to a cold blooded animal
like a fish a warm hand is like an electric shock.
Duncan Campbell
<mcc...@festive.demon.co.uk> writes
>Whoever the bloke in the ad is, why does he sound like he's having an orgasm
>when he says at the end, "What a beauty!"
Meanwhile, the fish is saying, "Help! I'm drowning!"
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